First, my apologies if this subject is already covered. I couldn't find anyone with a similar situation.
I have a Sprint G2 that I rooted and it is running CMod 11. I want to switch it to Verizon. I tried taking the phone to the Verizon store and they could not activate it for Verizon. I assume the phone is unlocked however because it activated just fine for Sprint and the Sprint guy told me that's an indication of being unlocked. True? Not sure.
The Verizon guys told me that I need to hack the radio frequencies of the phone before it would work with Verizon. I don't know where the settings are for this though. I already tried the trick of deleting 'Spr' out of a certain system file and I effectively bricked the phone. That didnt work and luckily I was able to revert to the stock rom.
My question is this: Can I get the phone to work with Verizon simply by flashing Verizon CMod to it? Or is it easy to find the settings for the radio frequencies that I need to change? Do I get any data once all is said and done? I don't look forward to unrooting and restoring the stock ROM JUST to hear Sprint say "Oh well we don't want to unlock it for you."
androground said:
First, my apologies if this subject is already covered. I couldn't find anyone with a similar situation.
I have a Sprint G2 that I rooted and it is running CMod 11. I want to switch it to Verizon. I tried taking the phone to the Verizon store and they could not activate it for Verizon. I assume the phone is unlocked however because it activated just fine for Sprint and the Sprint guy told me that's an indication of being unlocked. True? Not sure.
The Verizon guys told me that I need to hack the radio frequencies of the phone before it would work with Verizon. I don't know where the settings are for this though. I already tried the trick of deleting 'Spr' out of a certain system file and I effectively bricked the phone. That didnt work and luckily I was able to revert to the stock rom.
My question is this: Can I get the phone to work with Verizon simply by flashing Verizon CMod to it? Or is it easy to find the settings for the radio frequencies that I need to change? Do I get any data once all is said and done? I don't look forward to unrooting and restoring the stock ROM JUST to hear Sprint say "Oh well we don't want to unlock it for you."
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The G2 is only compatible with Verizon's 3G network. I doubt our radios work on the Verizon variant for LTE. Also, the IMEI would need to be whitelisted on Verizon's database. There's no other way around it. Better off selling the LS980 and buying a VS980 for Verizon.
androground said:
First, my apologies if this subject is already covered. I couldn't find anyone with a similar situation.
My question is this: Can I get the phone to work with Verizon simply by flashing Verizon CMod to it? Or is it easy to find the settings for the radio frequencies that I need to change? Do I get any data once all is said and done? I don't look forward to unrooting and restoring the stock ROM JUST to hear Sprint say "Oh well we don't want to unlock it for you."
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1) no because the IMEI isn't in verizon's database / white listed
2) hardware for the radio is different then verizon's and you will be unable to get lte at all from it.
3) I would just restore to 100% stock (tot) and then sell it and then buy the Verizon version
i have inverse issue
well i bought a verizon variant, only because it was the only one with next day air delivery... I didnt do any research other than seeing that they had the same model number of 980 i figured a radio change and maybe rom change. i tried flashing a sprint rom on it it wont finish the install. do i need to get a sprint sim?
i might be interested in trading that sprint g2 for my verizon g2
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I've searched for this quite a bit, but haven't seen anything definitive.
I have an S3 from Sprint that I want to use on Page Plus. I've got it working on page plus, but not all of it.
I'd like to get rid of all the Sprint specific software to go to something either verizon or more generic, that won't
be trying to access my "sprint account" all the time, (which doesn't exist)
Is this possible?
I'm not familiar with too familiar with flashing phones myself, but i've read about them
Does PagePlus work on Verizons network then?
If it does, you should be able to flash the rom fine, the only difference between roms made for each phone are the vendor files (theres actually a project in place right now to make a rom that will work for all carrier-specific S3s)
I would strongly suggest making a backup just in case though, and the usual disclaimer: i take no responsibility for your actions, but i would be more than glad to help if something goes wrong
Also if you root, you can install a clean rom that will have all the bloat remove, that way you're not just replacing it with other bloat lol
Good luck :good:
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I'm not familiar with too familiar with flashing phones myself, but i've read about them
Does PagePlus work on Verizons network then?
If it does, you should be able to flash the rom fine, the only difference between roms made for each phone are the vendor files (theres actually a project in place right now to make a rom that will work for all carrier-specific S3s)
I would strongly suggest making a backup just in case though, and the usual disclaimer: i take no responsibility for your actions, but i would be more than glad to help if something goes wrong
Also if you root, you can install a clean rom that will have all the bloat remove, that way you're not just replacing it with other bloat lol
Good luck :good:
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Yes, page plus uses verizon lines. I figured that a verizon rom was a good starting point, but if a custom rom would do the same thing, I'm not opposed to that either.
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Yes, page plus uses verizon lines. I figured that a verizon rom was a good starting point, but if a custom rom would do the same thing, I'm not opposed to that either.
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Ok then, what I meant was that you could flash a custom Verizon rom with all the bloat removed, there would probably be things that you would need to change thought if you did flash it, like your APNs and such...so make a Nandroid just in case
You can try a Verizon prl also
But you might not have lte Verizon uses a sim for there 4g
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Yeah you cant get LTE from a carrier just with the PRL
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Yeah you cant get LTE from a carrier just with the PRL
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True but the prl might help if he needs to connect for cell towers. But I know from other Verizon phones they need a sim for 4g services and a sprint sgs3 does not support sim card
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True but the prl might help if he needs to connect for cell towers. But I know from other Verizon phones they need a sim for 4g services and a sprint sgs3 does not support sim card
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Yes, you are correct, not saying you arent just backing it up
I know for Sprint you need to have an LTE enabled PRL to get LTE at all...strange, but true
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Yes, you are correct, not saying you arent just backing it up
I know for Sprint you need to have an LTE enabled PRL to get LTE at all...strange, but true
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Yeah, I don't care about LTE really, just trying to figure out if I can get a verizon rom to flash on it, or custom, that will blow away all the sprint specific stuff on this phone. it doesn't seem real happy to be a sprint phone on a verizon network.
So i bought this phone for cheap brand new in box from a foriegn national that purchesed it outright when they got here no contract ( they didnt like it and bought an iphone 5 days later and now i have it). hoping i could flash it over to sprint and upgrade from my e4gt so i can use the beautiful lte in the area.... yeah Rockford. but im currently struggling are there any tips that you guys have or am i screwed...
heres what ive tried. so as i got it i turned it on and it was on 4.0.4 with full signal and working 4g. i used the rooting method that is posted here for sprint gs3's as there isnt one specific for us cellular phones. flashed back to a us cellular kernel as it would boot but claimed no sim was inseterd and boom worked and had root.... then rebooted in recovery and tried to odin a sprint stock rom... failed throws errors. rebooted in to recovery cwm 6.0 and tried to flash some sprint and us cellular custom, stock, and stock modified roms fails checks every time and wont flash. i know 99% of the hardware is exactly the same so it shouldnt be impossible just looking to get this on sprint ... now i have odin the lastest stock update for us cellular just in case it really isnt worth it so i can sell it.... yes i have reset the flash counter and the device says normal device state not modified so that shouldnt be an issue.
on another note my imei number is only 14 digits... isnt it supposed to be 15. when i try and activate it. (assuming i CAN get it flashed to sprint) wont that be a problem. and btw it is the same digits on the box and ive even done the conversion from the meid-dec number and it gives me the same 14 numbers
I don't think USC uses the same LTE bands as sprint so even if you got it working it would be physically impossible for it to connect to the sprint 4G network. May be better off to look for someone to trade with you, or sell that one and buy a sprint version.
http://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/carrier.php?c=12 - according to this USC is on LTE 700/1700, while Sprint uses LTE on 1900.
Damn well it was a nice thought.... Any one want to trade.. Lol well thanks
Okay, I'm sure the information is all out there, so before I get told to search forums or google, I have. My issue is that I'm just having the hardest time putting all the scattered information together and understanding it. There's too much information to decipher whats needed, accurate andd up to date for my situation. So I was wondering if someone whose done this before could just give me the straight to guide.
I have verizon, my girlfriend has sprint. She broke her S4. I have an old verizon note 2 that is unlocked, rooted, custom recovery and on CM11.
What I need to do is get it on the sprint network and get her service switched over to it.
I know it has something to do with APN settings, but there's so many different ones whether it's for internet and MMS. I basically just want her to be able to use it to make phone calls and maybe regular texts. I got all confused when I saw things dealing with PRL and what not, so I don't actually know which things I need to make this work.
I put the sim card from her S4 into my Verizon note 2 and opened the access point settings under mobile network. There are a bunch of sprint ones in there now, I don't know which one to choose. I tried the one just labeled "Sprint" and then rebooted to get the APN settings to switch over but I still have no service to try and activate the phone.
So could someone please give me a simplified walk-through of putting in sprint's settings on a verizon note 2. I tried flashing a Sprint CM11 rom but it failed. So now i am going to try flashing a sprint touchwiz rom to see if that will make all the necessary changes for me.
Update: I Just finished flashing jellybomb touchwiz rom, it flashed but wont get into the phone setup, says there's an encryption error and the phone needs to be reset. I did that and it still does the same.
Thanks in advance guys, I've flashed a lot of roms, I've just never switched my phone to another carrier before.
You can't activate a non Sprint branded phone on the Sprint network. Period. The esn is not in the Sprint database and even if you wanted to use the phone strictly for traveling internationally, The sim card from Sprint will not work in the Verizon phone for the same reason. You'd have to "clone" the phone/esn and that is completely illegal. I would spend my time on craigslist or Facebook and try to trade your Verizon phone for a Sprint one. That's what I would do.
FYI . Verizon phones are actually in demand due to the much larger customer base so making a trade for a Sprint S4 or Note 2 should be fairly easy. But MAKE SURE you check the ESN with Sprint before making a trade because a blacklisted esn phone can NOT be activated and you will be SOL.
So only networks like at&t and T-mobile will work on my Unlocked verizon phone?
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So only networks like at&t and T-mobile will work on my Unlocked verizon phone?
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If you're referring to your Verizon phone being a "world phone" which does in fact have a sim card and gsm network capabilities, then technically yes it would perhaps be possible to get it to work on AT&T or T-Mobile onl;y but it would be very difficult and time consuming to unlock the sim portion of the Verizon phone and hack it so that it would not be rejected by either network due to the ESN. You'd have better luck trying T-Mobile because they seem to be more lax with unbranded iPhones etc on their network. But in all honesty you would be better off trading your Verizon phone especially if it has a clear esn and getting a phone that's ready to go with no headaches and fully functional on the network.
thanks for the replies
I have an unlocked Sprint Samsung S6 and I'm trying to get it to work on Verizon but it doesn't want to work. It shows an exclamation and R where the signal bars are. I have tried setting up the APN and a Verizon rep put the sprint phone in their system, but that didn't work either. Is there any way to get this to work? Do u have to flash Verizon's Rom to it? I noticed that even unlocked it still seems to have the sprint activation stuff..... Please help, scoured the Internet and forums to no avail :/
If you actually got the phone activated onto your line on Verizon, you will need the Verizon PRL on the device for it to show it connected natively to its towers (the 'R' is a roaming indicator...your device is seeing the Verizon towers as roaming since it loaded with a tower list with Sprint towers prioritized). Verizon is still CDMA, so you will need the proper PRL flashed to the phone for it to work, first & foremost, along with your NAM information and all of the Verizon data settings flashed in place of the Sprint data settings. With regard to CDMA switching from Sprint/Sprint-based to Verizon/Verizon-based, there is more to it than merely an ESN swap (activation by an agent) & inserting a SIM.
I am not here to hold your hand through the flashing of anything, but I'm letting you know what will need to be done. These phones have different model numbers for a reason (unlike "hybrids" like newer Nexus devices, newer iPhones & the recently released Moto X Pure). These different models are designated per carrier and the bundled carrier software for many CDMA devices is used in its OTA programming. Sprint devices typically are packed with MSL/SPCs unique to the device and needed to edit the internal NAM & data settings while Verizon branded counterparts have 0s instead of uniques codes. If this is all over your head, you may need to seek the assistance of someone or a company familiar with flashing to get you going if you are hellbent on using THAT device. Good luck.
worked for me but not stable
I also have the s note 5 from sprint and been trying to make it work on verizon. After so many tries in the mobile network setting i got it to partially work. it still have the R symbols on top, which shows your roaming but you will get a 3g speed. My current setting is
Settings>Mobile Networks>Network mode >automatic
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>Roaming network>automatic
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>Roaming guard> all off
Settings>Mobile Networks>data roaming>everything else on
you also have to use the verizon app settings.
i've also tried flashing the prl but had no luck. Any suggestion on how will be appreciated.
So, how about an idiot's guide for making this happen?
If I need help from a vendor, how about posting some referrals, what needs to be done, and how much is fair to pay?
I am a self-professed newb and I just want to take the Sprint S6 that I own outright to Verizon.
Especially because I paid full price for the S6, and Sprint's service sucks inside my building.
Thanks .
What VicFreeze said above is 100% correct, you would have to reprogram/flash the phones CDMA chip/radio and even Verizon will not be able to do so (legally or maybe not smart enough to know how), you want to be on Verizon you need to get one of their phones. Your phone is a G920P, the P is specific to Sprint and the phone has been flashed internally to know the MIED, MDM/MIN, PRL and login passwords for their networks along with the MSL Code direct from the Samsung factory just for Sprint.
So Yeah you can change all this by reprogramming the CDMA chip inside the phone, first you need professional software that will cost $$$ hundreds of dollars, software like CDMA workshop, QPST or DFS will work, learning to use this software is not for newbies, you will also need to get the information from Verizon to flash their carrier specific codes and numbers into the phone, it's not like swapping out your SIM Card like a GSM Phone and your on a different network, this is CDMA and its why Sprint/Verizon use this, its to lock you down. (no, that's not why)(LOL)
Just Google "Carrier programming on CDMA phones"..
I think it would be cheaper to sell your Sprint phone and just get a Verizon phone and save yourself a lot of hassle. Get a G920V, its already flashed with Verizon Codes to access their LTE Network from the Samsung factory (Hence the V is specific for Verizon). Verizon's sales staff might not even know what a CDMA phone is so would you really want them to reprogram it??
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I have an unlocked Sprint Samsung S6 and I'm trying to get it to work on Verizon but it doesn't want to work. It shows an exclamation and R where the signal bars are. Is there any way to get this to work? Do u have to flash Verizon's Rom to it? I noticed that even unlocked it still seems to have the sprint activation stuff..... Please help, scoured the Internet and forums to no avail :/
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VicFreeze and MindTricks sound dead on in there advice. One thing I am pretty sure about unless someone corrects me is .... even though Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA, they operate on different frequency bands which is probably why your getting the 'R' for roaming. CDMA Workshop has the ability to change the radio frequency. I think the two companies also encrypt or code their voice and data traffic and you need the software flashed that has their specific decoders or encryption software for the device to work on their system. I am not sure if the specific radio software changes any of this or not. I am not even sure is CDMA Workshop is compatible with newer Samsung phones now as two years ago I programmed my Sprint HTC EVO 4g to work on my Virgin Mobile talk and text plan without much trouble but have not been able to get CDMA Workshop to connect to a Galaxy Grand Prime as of late. What I did two years ago was easier since Virgin runs off of Sprint Service Towers. Having a ROM compiled for Verizon may help but things have changed. What I did with the EVO two years ago ..... the ROM had Sprint radio files compiled with it. I am not sure if some of those files are separated in the system now on more modern devices as ..... back two years ago Sprint was EVDO and not their LTE uses a SIM card to work. So, things have changed and keep changing and evolving. One thing is sure, is almost every year Service Providers along with device manufacturers are changing what they do and how they do it.
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So, how about an idiot's guide for making this happen?
I just want to take the Sprint S6 that I own outright to Verizon.
Especially because I paid full price for the S6, and Sprint's service sucks inside my building.
Thanks .
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That's what everyone would love to do but at times proves more hassle than what it is worth. this is why there are sites like Swappa and eBay where you can sell your phone for close to competitive price and pick one up a device that is a comparable condition for the service provider you want to swich to for about a break even price or not much more out of pocket.
I dunno if this thread is dead but process should go something like this.... flash factory binary firmware checking "auto-reboot, nand erase, and F.reset" options. Once it boots enable developer options and oem unlock and usb debugging (then do a factory reset from settings menu). Then you can flash the CSC from Verizon stock. Placing VZW .pit file in appropriate section. Then you can flash the BL,AP,CP files from VZW rom. Personally....this seems like alot of unnecessary work with a great chance for missing something. Might be better to root sprint device and manually install vzw modem files, apns.conf, prl, telephony.db.....better yet why not just flash a custom rom from twrp. thats just one zip file in twrp.
I don't know what I've done differently, but I currently have and use without any problems a Sprint G920P on the nations most reliable network… Verizon. I can tell you that I didn't have to jump through all or any of the hoops that others in this post have outlined. I will tell you what I did ; Flashed G920p with Bigdaddy PL3 Aroma V1.x ,TWRP-3.2.1.0, SuperSu-v2.82, and 3.10.61_Stock_Modified_Kernel_By_Aurora_Rom [email protected]#1. Phone has been unlocked by Idonne apps. I believe that last bit has a lot to do with my success. there is a setting in his app if the phone is to be used on a CDMA network or a GSM network. And not to discredit the person that discouraged you from having a Verizon employee help you but it was he that figured out how to make Verizons system find my phone. Not sure exactly what he did but I saw him take his company phone out of his pocket and scan the sticker on the back of it into the system saying "we will just make the system recognize it". Voila, worked perfectly and continues to operate without flaw on their network. I do get a roam "R", but checking settings indicates that I am not roaming. I live on the border to Canada so it is to be expected, but not the case. As far as Network, device says Preferred Network instead of Verizon. It could say your name for all I care as long as it works! Hope this sheds some light on it for you without having to make all of those unnecessary changes. One last note.... the salesman did say that mine is the first Sprint Device that he has seen on their network.... I guess that makes me special huh? Lol...
So my brother gave my his old Sprint Galaxy Note 5, which he had unlocked so that I could use it on AT&T. We had to set up the new APN to work with GSM instead of CDMA. The issue is that it cannot access 4G bands, just 3G. There are some other minor issues as well, such as location based services. I was looking into flashing AT&T firmware onto the phone, but cannot seem to find a way to do it online. I may not have scoured hard enough, or it may not be able to be done.
Would anyone be able to shed some light on this for me? I would prefer not to brick the phone by attempting something when I clearly do not have enough information about the subject. Could it just be an APN issue? Or will the phone just be stuck on a lower speed band? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
The modem will only be able to access the 3G network as AT&T uses different LTE bands then Sprint.
I just found that out a little earlier today. Forgot to delete this thread. Thank you for your reply though.
ZionMirem said:
I just found that out a little earlier today. Forgot to delete this thread. Thank you for your reply though.
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You might be able to force the network bands with an app. No promises.
Well crap, just got mine unlocked to do the same thing. Guess I'm better off selling it and getting the att version. Was hoping the N7 took off so people would dump their N5 but looks like people will be keeping it.
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So my brother gave my his old Sprint Galaxy Note 5, which he had unlocked so that I could use it on AT&T. We had to set up the new APN to work with GSM instead of CDMA. The issue is that it cannot access 4G bands, just 3G. There are some other minor issues as well, such as location based services. I was looking into flashing AT&T firmware onto the phone, but cannot seem to find a way to do it online. I may not have scoured hard enough, or it may not be able to be done.
Would anyone be able to shed some light on this for me? I would prefer not to brick the phone by attempting something when I clearly do not have enough information about the subject. Could it just be an APN issue? Or will the phone just be stuck on a lower speed band? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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It does support the AT&T LTE bands, call AT&T and have them put in the IMEI into the system to allow LET access. Since it's a Sprint phone it's not in their system as a 4G/LTE device. I got mine working but seems it has a difficult time getting into LTM mode, I have the correct APN setup and 3G works fine.