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Hey folks. Looking at the G3, but I'm wondering how good LG has been with keeping their previous phones up to date. I know we have custom roms, but even those tend to be better if made from an official release. Anyone have past experience with LG?
Most of it is due to your carrier, but LG getting it there is on the slower side as well.
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Yes 2 past experiences with lg. One never got updates other OGP still on 4.1.2 in India as launched since last 14 months.
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On g2 which is kinda how they are handling their flagships updates were in line with everyone else
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their "flagship" Flex took 6 months to get kit kat
their G2 took a long time as well months to get it
both on T Mobile
Problem is, you can never really tell if its the mfg or the carrier that makes this process so incredibly s-l-o-w
It was discussed already in all Optimus forums like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46985909& and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465663 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491277
wase4711 said:
their "flagship" Flex took 6 months to get kit kat
their G2 took a long time as well months to get it
both on T Mobile
Problem is, you can never really tell if its the mfg or the carrier that makes this process so incredibly s-l-o-w
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Of course its your carrier which is to blame. I've bought F320K and have had my kitkat on Christmas present, around 27 December. Yes, stock Kitkat on G2 was available before New Years eve.
yeah, that is probably the case; although, of course, when I would call tmobile and ask why there was no update out, they always said that LG hadnt released it to them, so you can't really know who was feeding the line of BS to folks..
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Yes 2 past experiences with lg. One never got updates other OGP still on 4.1.2 in India as launched since last 14 months.
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wase4711 said:
yeah, that is probably the case; although, of course, when I would call tmobile and ask why there was no update out, they always said that LG hadnt released it to them, so you can't really know who was feeding the line of BS to folks..
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First of all. .. If you believe anything you hear from customer service of any of the u.s. carriers them I have some ocean front property in Phoenix to sell you.... none of them know anything ... They are just lackies who don't really care about their jobs and could really care less about the phones etc .... Yes I will abut l admit their are a couple that do know but 99.99 % are freaking retarded
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agreed; I never call them when I really want to know the "facts"; I do have a inside contact in mgmt at T-Mobile, who all along admitted they weren't sure when kit kat was actually going to be out for the 2 lg phones I have..
my only point was if you are buying a phone from any of the domestic carriers in the USA, you can never really be sure when and if your OS will be updated, so if that's important to you, a unlocked, international model might be a better choice. What annoyed me was the "implied" promise of kit kat, on the G2 and the Flex from LG never actually turned out to be accurate, and, as I said, It took 6 months for kit kat to come to the Flex, which seems crazy, for their "cutting edge, top of the line" product..
Chances are that if you are not receiving updates it is only because your carrier doesn't give a rats ass about your satisfaction. Un-branded and unlocked devices typically receive updates shortly after new versions are released by Google. The order of major manufacturers' speed in updating software goes like this:
Motorola
HTC
Samsung
LG.
I highly recommend unlocked devices if you have the money to spend. However if you a poor schmuck like me and rely on contract devices, then you can either root and flash custom ROMS (say goodbye to warranty) or suffer in eternal damnation like the damn peasants that we are (according to carriers).
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mediumsteak said:
Chances are that if you are not receiving updates it is only because your carrier doesn't give a rats ass about your satisfaction. Un-branded and unlocked devices typically receive updates shortly after new versions are released by Google. The order of major manufacturers' speed in updating software goes like this:
Motorola
HTC
Samsung
LG.
I highly recommend unlocked devices if you have the money to spend. However if you a poor schmuck like me and rely on contract devices, then you can either root and flash custom ROMS (say goodbye to warranty) or suffer in eternal damnation like the damn peasants that we are (according to carriers).
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I have both G & G Pro unlocked but never got update since last year .
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I have both G & G Pro unlocked but never update since last year .
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Korean version will be the first device to be updated.
Only then LG will work on Int'l version.
Of course US Residents(Tmo,att,verzion,sprint etc..) will get updates later than the int'l version due to carriers.
As far as I know, G2 int'l version got kitkat two or three months later the Korean version got it...
I know this so well because I have been watching LG from Optimus LTE2 (Currently using)... (G G Pro G2 GFlex Gpro2) - I am Korean
Samsung and HTC used to be notorious for slow updates, now LG has the tag. With any of the new Flagships (S series, M series, G series) updates will be in line with each other. My G2 got Kit Kat on T-Mobile before my wifes HTC M7 did.
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.
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Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).
Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.
Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.
Great story
hopefully lg goes straight to android m
Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.
does anyone know if lg will be globally releasing an official lollipop for the wifi variant (v500) ? contacted lg Australia and the rep didnt really know . I tried the Korean lollipop kdz but i didnt like it cause of the Korean region specific additions (remote ,etc). Have other regions received the wifi variant lollipop update ? also has official support for the device stopped ( no new software updates ?) thanks
*searched and didn't find a similar thread so i thought i would ask
If LG doesn't know, there's no way an XDA user knows. People can only speculate.
Probably not. This is a fairly old tablet by now, and as much as I love it, and it still performs smoothly, I ultimately believe LG has stopped support for it. You might just as well use the Korean build and just disable the stuff you don't like, at the end of the day, the only remnants that can't go away are the Won symbol instead of $ on the keyboard shortcuts and the Kweather source instead of Accuweather.
I doubt it @keith456.
I didn't like that ROM either, I thought the hardware should have made the device feel quicker. I was about to flash a Slim build on it when the Marshmallow build turned up so I put that on it. I'd suggest trying that, I've been very impressed with it so far. Obviously it's a bit more involved than staying official but if you've had the tablet for a while you're probably out of warranty already.
Agree, I flashed Marshmallow and i'm totally satisfied
Hi, I was hoping someone could explain something for me. I'm looking through the forums and seeing the threads for roms and kernels specifically for H815 and H811, usually separate. I'm from the US, considering the G4 on T-Mobile. As I understand it, both can have the bootloaders unlocked (H811 comes unlocked, and the H815 can be unlocked).
I know the H815 has had Marshmallow released, and the H811 has not yet.
What I'm wondering and what I can't find a straight answer to is why, for example, when I look at CM downloads, I can find a v13 for H815 but only a v12.x for H811. The best answer I could find is something about there not being a released bootloader or modem for the H811 compatible with that. I don't know if that was accurate or not, but if it is that confuses me because I've had a Galaxy SIII whose last carrier Android release was 4.4.2, yet is still getting CM 13 releases pretty quickly and other AOSP updates from developers. Is the reason the H811 isn't just because there isn't enough people or developers using that model, so less are working on an updated kernel compatibile with it? I've never had to update my modem or bootloader for an update between Android versions, so I'm assuming that answer was wrong unless there's something I'm missing? I don't think there's a real hardware difference between the two models besides the modems/bands supported, right?
I'm trying to figure out my best option here, have had a Samsung Galaxy SIII since Aug. 2012, bootloader unlocked not too long after, and have really liked it until recently when I was having a slight issue with streaming audio over my mobile network and decided to switch back to stock for a short time to see if it fixed it and compare some settings, stupidly not realizing that in the 3 years I had been away from the stock firmware that Verizon had locked down the firmware again to 4.4.2 and nobody has figured out how to get around it.
I'm looking for a phone that I can install AOSP or CM or similar Roms on (Although I'm not against playing around with the LG Stock Android, it doesn't look that bad, but I want the choice) and am really hoping user removable battery and MicroSD slot. It's not a major must, but I would also like a fairly good camera.
Sounds like my best bet is either the Nexus devices or the LG G3 or the G4 H811. These all either have unlocked boot loaders or ones that are easy to more or less unlock, which I know is something I'll want if I don't want to be stuck on the version of Android the manufacturer supports. I can't stand the size the Nexus 6 or 6P is, haven't had a chance to see the 5X, but it's lacking the removable battery and memory card. I'm currently on Verizon, and would prefer to stay there, but am considering T-Mobile as a potential possibility. If I go with a G3 I'll stay with Verizon, if I go with a G4 I'll have to switch to T-Mobile.
I've seen the G3 and G4 in person, I like both, but prefer the G4 just based on the color temp of the screen, the camera, and battery charging (The G3's in Verizon's store were all low on battery because the charger couldn't keep up, but the G4 was fine I'm assuming because of the quick charging). But, it's looking like the G3 is currently better in terms of development support than the G4. My worry is in a year or so I may be stuck on a version of Android, whereas with my GS3 (Up until it got re-locked) it was still being actively updated. I can get the G3 online for ~200$ versus ~$400 for the G4, and the rest of the specs on the phone aren't different enough for me to care that much about seeing as my GSIII was handing all my requirements until recently.
Wasn't sure if this was the best place to post this, but my only option for the G4 is the T-Mobile H811, and if there is a big reason why that isn't supported (Whether it's because there's not a large enough user base or something else) then perhaps it's best I not consider that device?
It's been a long time since I've done much with porting Android and have been focused on the device I've had for the past 3.5 years, so I might be missing something here. If anyone can clear some of this up for me, it's be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
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If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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That's what I was asking about... Why do they need T-Mobile to release an update? I mean obviously it's easier if they do, but is it required or is it just majorly helpful? I'm asking because my current phone this whole "bootstack" stuff was never needed for developers to release updates. I'm just looking for that clarification to make sure that there's not some new requirement with this device that I'm not used to seeing that would make it unlikely to see development in the future, say if LG or T-Mobile decided to not update to the next version of Android after Marshmallow, if we'd be stuck on Marshmallow, or if the development could keep going like it did on the phone I currently have, where the manufacturer stopped development on Kitkat, but people are still releasing even current marshmallow builds.
I would not buy the G4 again.
For some reason it struggles with games.
Qi Wireless Charging is very very very wonky.
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Okay, if that's the reason why the v10 doesn't have any real development going on, that would make sense. I wasn't aware that that was a requirement. Figured it was just that there wasn't enough knowledgeable people working on it yet.
I got a clarification from a friend as to the bootloader question... I guess normally an updated bootloader has been needed moving from 5.x to 6.x, which doesn't appear to have been needed with the GS3 I have... I guess people must have rigged something, because updating the bootloader was never a step with that. He has a Nexus 5 (the orig one) and said he's had to flash a boot loader several times for this reason.
i'm too lazy to read all of this, but i was planing a long period of time to buy the G4, but i found some hardware cons and problems in it as a result of my deep search on youtube , gsmarena users reviews, xda forums and more.
The one problem that made me decide not to buy it and not to think about it any more is the self-die / bootloop hardware problem. read about it on xda bro. Adding this big possibility to the other cons (hardware + some software complexity) made this deal very risky as it will be my second device within less than a year.
i don't know if i'm right and made a good decision, i was believe in this device and i love it ..
New Android 10 release schedule confirms eventual update for LG V35 ThinQ
https://www.phonearena.com/news/lg-v35-thinq-android-10-update-confirmed-release-schedule_id121916
1 year later and wating...
I just bought a used v35 that has v350awm30c which equates to android 10
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I just bought a used v35 that has v350awm30c which equates to android 10
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You are from the lucky ones,but of course AT&T locked i suppose.
Many others,myself included,that we use AT&T unlocked and ULM versions,are still waiting for LG to keep its promise,but i am absolutely sure that this will remain a dream.
There is no chance i think,that LG will give us this promised android 10 update,after 1 year since its release.
LG left our V35. We will not get new updates
We need LineageOS and someone who will support our phones.
The V35 is a great piece of hardware. It is sad that LG has abandonned it. Shabby software IMHO explains the dire state of LG's mobile division. The odds are good it will be shuttered, sold, or otherwise entirely different in the near future.
Getting LOS support going would be nice. Much of the foundation is in place with work on the sibling V40 and G7 phones. The prospects for it happening are low. The phone is dated so not attracting developers. To make matters worse, LOS is not a viable path forward for LG owners in USA. Carriers are shutting down 3G and redeploying the spectrum. LG's radio implementation is proprietary. Without reverse engineering or a change of heart by LG, the phones will not have VoLTE capability with LOS roms.
As for me, I keeping an eye on Sony's offerings. To LG ThinQ products I say no ThanQ.
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LG left our V35. We will not get new updates
We need LineageOS and someone who will support our phones.
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Unfortunately i agree with you..LG abandoned V35 in its fake,except the Korean models.
Its been a few months since i put aside this wonderful device,as a back up.
I moved on with 1+7,as my daily driver,which is a really great device,got android 10 almost 1 year ago,and android 11 is on its way.
As a second device for professional reasons,i recently got a V50,which is a great device too,and even though it's a Sprint version,i use it in Europe where i live.
Immediately updated to android 10 from 9 and is going very strong.
Of course someone could say,why do you choose an LG device from the moment that the company announced its withdrawal from the smartphone industry?
I know the risks of my choice,mainly if something goes wrong and need repair,but till today,all my LG devices served me really well,despite the fact of luck of quick updates,in addition to other companies.
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Of course someone could say,why do you choose an LG device from the moment that the company announced its withdrawal from the smartphone industry?
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I didn't know that, I don't keep up much with tech news anymore. I get a phone that works for me, do the customizations I care about and forget about it. Anyways, sad to see their shutting down their phones unit without releasing 10 for us. And happy that I followed @cmrntnnr Korean Q guide a while ago.
i was looking to buy a V35 because price related to specs is awesome, but iirc, i could unlock bootloader but there is no custom ROM ?
GSI not supported on this phone ?
Sorry for theses dumbs questions
The phone is awesome hardware and android 9 isn't that bad. It's a trade-off.
I stuffed the Korean v350N android 10 in my US unlocked v35awm. All good and dandy, wifi calling working, 4G working just fine. But my car won't recognize its android auto link anymore. I get a black screen after plugging the phone to the car, even with all paired and stuff. Guess I'll back to android 9, even though the Korean 10 worked fine. But had no majors gains with Android 10, was just a test. Won't feel the downgrade much...
I also installed the Korean 10 ROM, and all is well except my mobile speed test has gone from 150/50 to 33/2 on TELUS in Canada. Any suggestions to fix this?
Graveen said:
i was looking to buy a V35 because price related to specs is awesome, but iirc, i could unlock bootloader but there is no custom ROM ?
GSI not supported on this phone ?
Sorry for theses dumbs questions
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What i can tell is yes. But for now there's only one custom rom LOS18.1 but im not sure it's stable or not.. and yep no gsi on stock rom..