Any downsides to getting the Developer Edition? - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So the benefits of the Developer Edition Note 4 would be the easy root and unlocked bootloader. I assume that this will let us go the AOSP direction for ROMs unless enough developers pick it up to do some TW ROMS. If we get the DE and don't mess with the bootloader, can we get Samsung's 5.0 TW ROM when it gets released?
Every phone I've had has been rooted and (some) unlocked starting with my Google I/O HTC Magic and I'm not sure that I want to lose that.

The other big question is if root in general is going to break stuff like the Sony Z3 and some of the camera algorithms...

no warranty and no OTA updates from what I heard. you're completely on your own so you gotta hope enough devs get it to care to make a new 5.0 tw rom
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[Q] S4 rom release bringing goodies to S3

The S4 rom will be released soon (if it hasn't already)
Will the S4 rom provide drivers and software that will improve the custom S3 roms we have here?
No.
Samsung doesn't release that stuff to mess with. And seeing how the S4 will come with a locked bootloader no one will even attempt to mess with it to begin with.
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[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

[Q] Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition Root&Rom or stick with stock??

Hello guys i am newbie here from Turkey Istanbul
I used note 10.1 original one and then updated to 2014 edition because there was no update after 4.1.2
now its a de javu... my question is , is it clever to root and flash custom rom or stick with stock rom and wait for official updates?
I would like to flash custom rom but if there will be an official update that makes exynos works much more efficient and with new touchwiz i will devastate.
So guys i need opinions with clever reasons...
thanks a lot....
Why not do both? You can always go back to stock after rooting and it is likely the devs will get their hands on any release before it comes out officially.
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KwestJones said:
Why not do both? You can always go back to stock after rooting and it is likely the devs will get their hands on any release before it comes out officially.
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Yess right but i use my note as a pc do all my works and my media on this tab so it is always hard and painfull for me to reset the tab.
I know no one has opinion about the date of official updates but it will come in a month i can sti k but if it will take decades i'll flash rom immedieatly
and also read that with custom roms we can use 4 multiapp function am i right.
and last question what is the best custom rom for our tab? Any opinions¿
I hear you... It can be... I've used titanium backup and it makes it less painful.
You are right, we never know when. Definitely can use any app you want for multi-window and yes there are 4 Windows available.
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My P601 warranty depend on the KNOX Fuse
So I keep it stock.
(Last year I use N9005 without warranty
I flash new custom ROM everyday)
highfb said:
Hello guys i am newbie here from Turkey Istanbul
I used note 10.1 original one and then updated to 2014 edition because there was no update after 4.1.2
now its a de javu... my question is , is it clever to root and flash custom rom or stick with stock rom and wait for official updates?
I would like to flash custom rom but if there will be an official update that makes exynos works much more efficient and with new touchwiz i will devastate.
So guys i need opinions with clever reasons...
thanks a lot....
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From my expirenece custom roms are totally unneccary on up to date devices.... if you want customisation get xposed installer .... stock rom gives you stability & all features .... debloat with titanium and youre totally fine .... get your neet extra features with xposed isntaller & gravity box / wanam exposed modules...
its funny when i ask ppl what their custom rom gives them .. they cant name a single feature I cant get on stock ....
if you have an old device with outdated firmware its another story

NOOB to Note 4, on OF5 with starter questions

Hello everyone, just picked up a note 4 and was wondering if i could get guided into the right direction.
Am hoping to install a custom rom, seeing as how my about me says that I am on OF5 I can root and install TWRP through ODIn via the instructions posted on galaxynote4root.com ?
If I want to use features such as S Note, sign pdfs, and have the thimbprint reader I assume I need to run a touchwiz custom rom? It was like that for the Note 2. Any guidance towards slimmed out roms? On my old S3 I was on darkslim and would love to find something of a fast and stable rom that can be themed entirely black while using the extra features of the note that are actually useful.
If I want to use viper audio does that lock me into aosp or touchwiz specifically?
From the little I have browsed so far, the NOTERIZED rom looks to be the one?
Other things that slightly stood out would be Hybrid-x, obar,SOKP?
What is the deal with 5.1.1? Something about a locked bootloader that forces use to run a custom kernel?Do I not have to worry about that because of OF5? Am I slightly screwed because I'm not on OB7? There's issues such as no wifi calling? Would this affect sprint spark? I'm in an area where this is available. ..
Any other suggestions? Are my desires too contradictory? Btw is there anything that allows me to have my wallpapers change everyday? I'm currently using AllianceRom for my note 2 and there is a feature in which the colors of my theme change everyday...
Would really appreciate any and all help.
Lastly,thanks again for reading this far.
-Bryan
You wouldn't have issues with Wi-Fi calling or V4A on either of those ROMs that I'm aware of. You didn't mention freeza's Note 4our ROM but I'd recommend that one too.
Regarding OF5, no real advantage to keep that or its bootloader due to similar issues- no Odin downgrade capability. Depending on how you look at it; slightly disadvantaged, no downgrade through Odin/user lockable reactivation lock that will give you fits if you enable it and try to flash over it.
TW will yield the most capabilities for Note devices. You'll need to upgrade to OG5 through Odin, Odin TWRP and flash the custom ROM of your choice. All OG5 custom should include a kernel exploited for root capability as well as SuperSU in the ROM flash.
Disclaimer: I only answered what I knew. Perhaps others have answers to what I neglected.
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Thank you, much appreciated! So OG5 it is!

where do I find a clean NJ5 kitkat thats also rooted to put on my dev note 4?

Im getting one later today that has rooted Morom 6.5 Android 5.0 up there already on the galaxy note 4 verizon developer edition, can someone point me to the right direct or advice where i can downgrade it?
I love kitkat, and i dont want no lolipop , if someone can point where i can just put a clean NJ5 KITKAT firmware thats already rooted, or if anyone can recommend me a CM ( CM roms used to be my favorite in s3 and 4 days.. cleanest roms ever) or something thats actually kitkat but no bloatware etc and runs smoothly/faster near stock android.
sorry if this been asnwered before but all i can find is lolipop all over the note 4, and there is a high chance im blind! lol

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