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Hi guys, Samsung are rolling out Android 4.4.4 to their mobile devices. But I have not seen any reports of that update for our Tab S or even the Tab Pro. Any news on this?
And what specific changes did Samsung add to Touch-wiz in this update (to the devices it's been released on).
Thanks
A new Samsung Galaxy S5 Android 4.4.4 KitKat update is hitting the phone to solve problems and also to prepare it for the upcoming Voice over LTE technology.
The Android Kitkat updates have been hitting the phones of major carriers but the last several either caused new bugs or didn’t solve all of them, prompting the 4.4.4.
“One of the devices that’s in the midst of an Android 4.4.4 KitKat update push is the Samsung Galaxy S5. Just about a week ago, the Galaxy S5 Android 4.4.4 KitKat update hit the Verizon Galaxy S5. The update was a bit of a surprise given how slow Verizon typically is to Android updates. The update’s change log was never publicized though there’s chatter about it fixing a Bluetooth issue. Today though, Verizon is rolling out a bunch larger Android 4.4.4 KitKat build,” according to Gotta Be Mobile.
The new update includes fixing the problem of an incorrect number of unread emails on the notification screen, and audio of the Bluetooth headset, and a camera shutters sound issue.
More tracking features have also been added to the S-Health, including Weight, Sleep, Stress, and Coach.
The update also includes tech that prepares the device for the upcoming VoLTE technology, which enables calls to sound better and clearer while having users talk on the phone while being able to use the Internet at the same time.
While Verizon’s S5 is the first model to get the 4.4.4., the other models are expected to receive it soon.
Meanwhile, some variants of the Galaxy S4, Galaxy Tab 3 and Galaxy Tab 4 have been getting the Android 4.4.2 KitKat firmware recently.
The latest Google Android build is Android 4.4.4 KitKat, but that is only coming out for the very latest Samsung devices such as the Galaxy Alpha and the Galaxy Note 4–and the Galaxy S5–at present.
In the United States, Sprint are working on releasing the Android 4.4.4 KitKat for the Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S5, while T-Mobile could be rolling out the update for the Galaxy S4.
Some United Kingdom carriers and Optus in Australia could also be making the update available for the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy S5 LTE-A.
Samsung could eventually release the Android 4.4.4 KitKat update to its other phones, but at present, Samsung users will have to stick with a slightly older Android build.
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Source: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/963...olte-as-galaxy-s4-and-galaxy-tab-4-get-4-4-2/
This sucks. I have a note 3 and tab s.
I think tab s is too old for the latest android uodates
LoVeRice said:
I think tab s is too old for the latest android uodates
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You're not even serious LOL. the Tab S had only been out 3 months. Samsung has been known to update their devices up to 2 years out from release.
xRevilatioNx said:
You're not even serious LOL. the Tab S had only been out 3 months. Samsung has been known to update their devices up to 2 years out from release.
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True that but after 12 months passes for a device I wouldn't hold my breath....
skeeterpro said:
True that but after 12 months passes for a device I wouldn't hold my breath....
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This is their flagship device. I'm very confident we'll see the L Preview and their next iteration of the "L", after that.
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This is their flagship device. I'm very confident we'll see the L Preview and their next iteration of the "L", after that.
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Agreed. Looking forward to it.
That was a nice joke
My guess also is that Samsung will skip directly to L for the Tab S. They don't do frequent updates, that's true. So why would they bother with a relatively insignificant interim update?
T-Mobile list of devices being updated to Marshmallow.
http://androidspin.com/2015/10/05/t-mobile-details-which-devices-will-see-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Samsung
Galaxy S5
Galaxy S6
Galaxy S6 Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge+
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note 5
Galaxy Tab S2
Can anyone here say they're really surprised?...
Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:
Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.
Not surprised, but sad! Maybe its time to try the Motorola X pure 2015 edition or the Nexus 6P.
Honestly, it would be nice to have, but this phone is now a full two years old. I think it's time we stop expecting Samsung to spend time upgrading us to the latest version of Android. They upgraded us to Lollipop, which I think they had some obligation to do, but I don't think we can expect them to keep doing so indefinitely.
As for my Note 3, It has started to show its age. I think I will be retiring it in the next few months. I have no idea what phone I'll get next. Maybe the iPhone 6.
LOL j/k.
I'd be happy with a damn 5.1 update to address the memory leak. It's insulting to stop updating on such a crappy revision.
As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.
Paranoid, AOKP, Cyanogen, Slim, OmniROM, Dirty Unicorns, Darklord's ports! Who need Samsung? N3 is 2 years old, but it's still a beast.
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As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.
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I would like an official release of 5.1.1 from T-Mobile so I can have the latest fixes & updates + the ability to continue using Wi-Fi calling
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Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:
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I guess I'm not surprised, but I am very disappointed. The industry is really bad right now. I mean you only support one year of releases? The current Note 5, and last years Note 4? Sad. With how good phone have been in the last three or even four years they are more than capable to support a new OS. The Note 3 is still a powerhouse, and will probably be so for another three years at least. I'm thankful for the dev community, so at least we can still get the latest OS/ROMs with custom ones.
There is to be a grain of salt taken with this info, but...
http://www.justaboutphones.com/galaxy-s5-alpha-note-3-s4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update/
According to the image, the 5.1.1 update is in testing for the Note 3 and will be finished sometime in November. I realize we won't get Marshmallow (which is fine with me, even though the Note 3 is more than capable of running it.) I'm just glad (hopeful, more like it) that we'll (maybe) get the 5.1.1 update. Once that gets old and the phone is truly non-supported, then I'll consider rooting and installing a custom rom on this unit.
Fingers crossed!
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
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dirtybudha said:
Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.
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AxAtAx said:
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
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I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
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I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
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The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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googlephone said:
The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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That's not really true. T-Mobile released the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
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That's not really true. T-Mobile release the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
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Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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Again, assuming that there is a similar upgrade cycle for the Note 5 as there was for the Note 3 vs the Note 4, the Note 4 will get Marshmallow before the Note 5. In addition, the Note 5 won't be $400 in April. That would still be 6 months from the release of the Note 6, so it would be around $600. So you pay $600 for a Note 5 when for 6 months and $200 more you can get the Newer release? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense now, does it?
In any case, the point is that people in this thread are complaining about not getting Marshmallow on the Note 3. Well, if you want Marshmallow, then you have to upgrade. You're going to have to do it eventually. That's why I would rather upgrade now, and get a better performing phone in addition to the comfort of knowing that I will in fact get Marshmallow. Or people can wait and keep whining about what they already know they aren't going to get.
I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked models:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.
You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random
Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
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melihcarter said:
Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
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Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous
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Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous
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Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
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melihcarter said:
Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
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Probably because you're out of the 2 years support xD
my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.
As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
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I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked US model:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.
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Killua96 said:
You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random
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I used the V10 instead of V20 because it's been out for 2 years. Therefore it is the only V phone released that can give us an update what updates will be like for 2 years. The V20 can only give us 1 year of update history to look at for comparison.
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my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.
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Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
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As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
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Technically LG released 7.0 in May 2017 for unlocked in Korea. But then it took T-Mobile another 3 months. So only 8 months can technically be blamed on LG, which yes is still way too long. Also you can't use "some of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
Also keep in mind the unlocked V20 and the t-mobile V20 are on the 2nd newest security update right now, September 2017. Something I didn't mention in my original post. So that's a really good sign too.
Although yes, I totally do not blame you from buying unlocked. It is the fastest with updates. However surprisingly T-Mobile is able to usually be right behind with in a month of LG.
So in summary LG updates their flagships with updates for 2 years! Except they can lag months behind in pushing out the updates. Hopefully with V30 being the most popular V phone yet this will make them more eager to push out the updates faster.
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Also you can't use "some of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
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I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?
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Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
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international version.
ChazzMatt said:
I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
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Multiple reasons! It was for comparison purposes. To demonstrate in the case of V10 not getting the 7.0, then it was carrier faults. Also for comparison to demonstrate LG pushed out updates a little faster than carriers. Also to compare each carrier to show which carrier was the fastest with updates. But not used to put blame on LG, because LG has no control over when the carrier updates once they give out the update of the unlocked version.
Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
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But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?
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Haha! Yeah that's pretty accurate if you go based off the V10. However when the V20 gets Oreo will be a sign as to how fast we will get Android P. So keep an eye out for that.
Overall LG is far from the worst manufacturer with updates, but also far from the best. They are about middle of the pack. However when a device sells well (such as the V30 seems to be) it encourages companies to be faster with updates and support because theres way more people to disappoint.
For example my girlfriend's Sony Z3 from T-Mobile back in the day stopped updates after 5.0 when Sony went to at least 6.0. T-Mobile explained to me it was because they didn't sell much of the devices, so its not worth their time and money to invest research and development for updates of a phone that sold much less than other phones. That makes sense from a business perspective and that is the way these phone companies think.
So with that in mind I think its safe to say the V30 is going to be the best selling V phone so far. Possibly even sell close to as much as the G6. Especially if they drop the price about $200 in early 2018. So that increases the chances of LG wanting to develop more time and resources into the device because it's selling so well!
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Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
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Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.
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Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.
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Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415
CHAZZ, the speaker of truths!
this honestly was my hesitation in picking up the V30. my previous phone was the Nexus 6P and I LOVED being able to install the newest latest and greatest as soon as it dropped.
Phone manufactures really are doing themselves a disservice by not just dropping a vanilla ROM update asap and a branded OS as they see fit. They could simply omit those fancy features they bake into their ROMs.
Phone manufactures, want consumers to buy their phones for the experience...why?...why not attract consumers for the phone itself as well as the "experience". At that point you'll have 2 lines of consumers ready to buy your product. It's like when HTC? initially released some phones, they had their carrier branded phones that were spiffied up, and you could register that phone for for a developer account allowing you to install vanilla Android.
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Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415
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Hmmm.. As you said, only South Korea models got it in May. Those are carrier models, sold in South Korea. Everyone else got it later.
The only caveat is the update is now being deployed in South Korea only.
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The official carrier unlocked version -- which is eligible for bootloader unlock code -- is not the same as those three South Korea carrier models.
I'm curious when the official carrier unlocked version got it. This model, which is listed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
LG V10 H960A
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And the answer is July 14, 2017:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/official-software-h960a-v30b-nougat-t3636552/page1
So, your original email was correct, it was 11 months after Nougat was released before the official carrier unlocked version got the update.
I think since LG is including that two year warranty with most of our purchases on T-Mobile (thanks to the promo), I'd think we will see updates during that period.
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I was on the fence about keeping my pixel xl 2 or going with v30, this thread helped me make up my mind thanks
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Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM (debloated, tweaked, rooted), instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.
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Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM, instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.
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I'm not familiar with rooting and roms with lg. I've only done that with Nexus and pixel devices. Are they similar processes? Pixels and Nexus was very easy
Hey guys! This is my first Chinese phone that I've had. Got it imported all the way from China to Europe. My question is rather simple...Do I get OTA updates on a Chinese version of the phone even if I am located in Europe? Is there any time difference in updates on a Chinese version versus the International one? I've been wondering because as of right now I am unable to use third party launchers, but Huawei said they would release an update to allow just that.
markslo112 said:
Hey guys! This is my first Chinese phone that I've had. Got it imported all the way from China to Europe. My question is rather simple...Do I get OTA updates on a Chinese version of the phone even if I am located in Europe? Is there any time difference in updates on a Chinese version versus the International one? I've been wondering because as of right now I am unable to use third party launchers, but Huawei said they would release an update to allow just that.
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Location doesn't matter. Chinese version gets faster and more updates than the Global one. I've had the phone juss over a week and had 3 updates already.
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def-g said:
Location doesn't matter. Chinese version gets faster and more updates than the Global one. I've had the phone juss over a week and had 3 updates already.
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Does anyone have an idea on how long Huawei will keep updating the phone? I'd like to keep the phone for at least 3 years and would hate for it to not get security updates and the latest version of EMUI
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def-g said:
Location doesn't matter. Chinese version gets faster and more updates than the Global one. I've had the phone juss over a week and had 3 updates already.
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Does anyone have an idea on how long Huawei will keep updating the phone? I'd like to keep the phone for at least 3 years and would hate for it to not get security updates and the latest version of EMUI
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The updates depend solely on the Company that made the device & Google & if the company chooses to continue updates for that specific device, major companies usually guarantee 2 major Android OS updates as well as all the small path updates that they release for that device within the 2 year period for there high-end flagship devices & it's very popular mid-range devices, sometimes a company will decide to give certain special high-end devices or very popular mid-range devices 3 major updates spanding at 3 year & all the small security patch updates within that 3 year period but it is very rare, unfortunately Huawei has not been known for it's speedy updates, they are usually slower than Samsung but the company has made major changes the last few years & the quality of their devices has improved tremendously & now it flagship Mate 20 line comes with the latest Android version pre-installed & to my knowledge this a first for Huawei so hopefully they will focus more on updates.
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Location doesn't matter. Chinese version gets faster and more updates than the Global one. I've had the phone juss over a week and had 3 updates already.
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I'm not sure if this is accurate b/c I didn't get updates for my Huawei Honor Note 8 in the US, the Honor Note 8 was only released in china, now the US is one of several countries that has a ban on all Huawei products so I don't if that has something to do with it.
I have the Huawei Mate 20 X EVR-L29 the c636 Asian international model & I did get a security patch update a day after I got the phone, I was shocked to get that update b/c as far as I have read Huawei phones & tablets will not receive updates in the US, I don't know if the update was something that was already received when it was in the factory before it was boxed & sold, Idk if each device is connected to WiFi before it's boxed or if the device actually got an OTA update in the US, I'm really hoping for the latter of the two but I'm not sure.
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He was asking if his China version would get updates in Europe. The answer is yes. I'm in Canada and get all updates. That's what I meant by location doesn't matter.
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He was asking if his China version would get updates in Europe. The answer is yes. I'm in Canada and get all updates. That's what I meant by location doesn't matter.
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I stand corrected.
I just received another OTA update on my Huawei Mate 20 X.
You were right !
I don't understand why my Huawei Honor Note 8 didn't get updates in the US or why all the information I have read on Huawei phones not receiving updates in the US.
MemphisReins29 said:
I stand corrected.
I just received another OTA update on my Huawei Mate 20 X.
You were right !
I don't understand why my Huawei Honor Note 8 didn't get updates in the US or why all the information I have read on Huawei phones not receiving updates in the US.
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I've had my Huawei mate 10 since launch, it's an international version, I live in New York, I've always got updates over the air.
DJW35 said:
I've had my Huawei mate 10 since launch, it's an international version, I live in New York, I've always got updates over the air.
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Interesting.
I wonder why my Huawei Honor Note 8 never got the OTA updates, I bought it brand new 2 months after it's release date.
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I stand corrected.
I just received another OTA update on my Huawei Mate 20 X.
You were right !
I don't understand why my Huawei Honor Note 8 didn't get updates in the US or why all the information I have read on Huawei phones not receiving updates in the US.
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I've got the China version. Super fast updates.
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I got the updates 2 days ago, 9.0.0166 . I am on China Version L00 as well. All my Chinese phones ( LeTv X900, Xiaomi Mi Mix 6GB 256GB and Huawei Mate 20 X ) all of them running China ROM. Why i choose China ROM instead of Global and why i would never go Global on Chinese Devices ? Very Simple :
1 - Chinese ROM get updates very often and faster
2 - More stable
3 - Faster than the Global
Downside : Bloatware Apk's... This could be easily resolved by TWRP, Flash Root, Remove all the Bloatware.
Unfortunately, we have to wait for TWRP and Root for the Mate 20 X ...
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I got the updates 2 days ago, 9.0.0166 . I am on China Version L00 as well. All my Chinese phones ( LeTv X900, Xiaomi Mi Mix 6GB 256GB and Huawei Mate 20 X ) all of them running China ROM. Why i choose China ROM instead of Global and why i would never go Global on Chinese Devices ? Very Simple :
1 - Chinese ROM get updates very often and faster
2 - More stable
3 - Faster than the Global
Downside : Bloatware Apk's... This could be easily resolved by TWRP, Flash Root, Remove all the Bloatware.
Unfortunately, we have to wait for TWRP and Root for the Mate 20 X ...
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
I was however able to delete all of the bloatware using adb commands, so it requires no root or TWRP. Pretty simple to do actually.
markslo112 said:
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I was however able to delete all of the bloatware using adb commands, so it requires no root or TWRP. Pretty simple to do actually.
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are you still using this phone and which version would you recommend me to get ? global 128 gigs or china 256 with 8 giga ram ?
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are you still using this phone and which version would you recommend me to get ? global 128 gigs or china 256 with 8 giga ram ?
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If you're not using Gpay, then get the AL00 all day over the L29... It gets Updates much more faster and the ROM is much more Stable that the International one... Cheers
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If you're not using Gpay, then get the AL00 all day over the L29... It gets Updates much more faster and the ROM is much more Stable that the International one... Cheers
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what about changing the lanucher, i always used nova and like to use iconpacks and change things around.
also is there any way to remove the bloatware, not just disable it ?
some users said that some apps have chinese lanugage in them even if the device language is set to english ?
is it wise to get that phone despite huawie isssue with the us ?
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what about changing the lanucher
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Chinese version has no option to change Launcher, it could be done only at global version.
As the title ask's will we get one UI with Q?
Of course, every samsung device gets 2 major updates, at least the flagships...
Yeah defintely
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One UI was the second major update for the S9 so probably not.
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One UI was the second major update for the S9 so probably not.
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Oh and what was the first major update if it's not one UI?
blackops11252 said:
One UI was the second major update for the S9 so probably not.
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Major update = Android version, not UI, and OneUI came with Pie (1st major update)
Oreo > Pie > Q
Not even a question that needs asking, look at previous S series phones and what they were updated to, always 3 (Including shipped version)
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Major update = Android version, not UI, and OneUI came with Pie (1st major update)
Oreo > Pie > Q
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Yea actually that is correct, I dont know why I was thinking this S9 started with nougat (7.0). I must be thinking of one of my other phones.
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Yea actually that is correct, I dont know why I was thinking this S9 started with nougat (7.0). I must be thinking of one of my other phones.
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The S8 released with Nougat. Then got Oreo early last year, and just got Pie in the last few months. So it's done.
The S9, which got Pie a few months earlier than the S8, is due one more letter upgrade.