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Has anyone else found the following web site with instructions on setting up a 4G/3G/Edge switch on the Web
(Do a search to find the link)
I tired it and was able to get the switch, but I have not been able to try it on 4G(LTE) yet as I do not have LTE reception where I live and only have 3G (the phone says 4G, but I know it is 3G+) but will try it at work tomorrow where I can actually get LTE.
But one thing I noticed is that I cannot get EDGE service where I live. I heard that AT&T wanted to get rid of 2G (EDGE). Have they done that already?
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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On AT&T, there are 4 types of data. 2G/EDGE, 3G, "4G"/3G+/HSPA+ and LTE.
We all know about 2g and 3g, but many people like you don't know about the difference between "4g" and LTE.
This whole thing was started by T-Mobile, because this was the early days of LTE, and Sprint was advertising it's WiMax network as 4G, T-Mobile decided to use a technology called HSPA+ and brand it as 4G. Initially, AT&T scolded T-Mobile for this move, but as soon as it was decided HSPA+ could be considered 4G, AT&T rapidly built up a network of this, almost as large as their 3G network.
HSPA+ is basically a faster version of 3G, hence why it's often called 3G+. However, AT&T tries to advertise it as 4G so they can boast they have the largest 4G network, even though Verizon leads the charge with the most LTE sites. HSPA+ is a bit faster than 3G, but doesn't hold a candle to LTE. However, it does have it advantages, such as being compatible on the iPhone 4S, and unlike Verizon, on AT&T, if you loose LTE coverage, you can fall back on HSPA+, where as on Verizon you fall back on their CDMA network (Which is still slower than AT&T's GSM network).
So over all it's good and leads to faster overall experience, unless of course you're in LTE coverage 24/7, then it doesn't matter that much. My (and others) only problem with this is AT&T branding it as 4G, which tricks consumers.
These days, both AT&T and T-Mobile branded devices display "4G" for *any* UMTS connectivity, instead of 3G/H.
It's lame.
My 900 has this switch in the settings without the need for any hacks
you hit #data# and then hit the ... button at the bottom and set up the toggle between speeds. Then restart the device, go under settings>cellular> select data speed.
With this device's data speed selection, 2G= edge, 3g= HSPA+/UTMS, 4G= LTE. Eventhough ATT modified the registry so that UTMS shows 4G at the top of the device, when you select 3G in the speed selection, you are only making the phone connect to HSPA+/UTMS
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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Hey, they stole my article that I originally posted on Mobility Digest. (www.mobilitydigest.com). They even took my screen shot. I purposely took that shot when my phone was showing "G". Oh well. Btw, it does work.
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Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
ramana.spencer said:
Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Hmm, those match my settings and I am getting LTE. Dumb question, but have you restarted? I noticed my phone can get kinda quirky when switching between APN's, or if the data gets turned off by another app for some dumb reason or another.
I have a feeling there is a little more tweaking to do to the modem from Oppo...
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Hmm, those match my settings and I am getting LTE. Dumb question, but have you restarted? I noticed my phone can get kinda quirky when switching between APN's, or if the data gets turned off by another app for some dumb reason or another.
I have a feeling there is a little more tweaking to do to the modem from Oppo...
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I get LTE (4G) with these setting just fine on TMO in Texas.... remember it will show 4G not LTE.
ramana.spencer said:
Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Have you confirmed that you actually have LTE in your area?
Remember that for years, T-Mobile and AT&T called HSPA+ "4G"
Entropy512 said:
Have you confirmed that you actually have LTE in your area?
Remember that for years, T-Mobile and AT&T called HSPA+ "4G"
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I was uunclear about H+, have just been looking up info....Was on Verizon, a GSM newbee here
However, I am seeing very slow speeds on HSPA+ and HSP...not even seeing much of a difference in speeds between the two on my device.
between them. Averaging 0.6 Mbps to 1.3 Mbps down, and 0.8 mbps to 1.3 Mbps up, even though T-mobile tech support claims I have excellent 4g coverage in my area. Is this most likely hardware?
Also, on my roadtrip yesterday to Medford, I was capping off at around 10 Mbps on LTE at the most, which seems a ,ittle slow for LTE.
ramana.spencer said:
I was uunclear about H+, have just been looking up info....Was on Verizon, a GSM newbee here
However, I am seeing very slow speeds on HSPA+ and HSP...not even seeing much of a difference in speeds between the two on my device.
between them. Averaging 0.6 Mbps to 1.3 Mbps down, and 0.8 mbps to 1.3 Mbps up, even though T-mobile tech support claims I have excellent 4g coverage in my area. Is this most likely hardware?
Also, on my roadtrip yesterday to Medford, I was capping off at around 10 Mbps on LTE at the most, which seems a ,ittle slow for LTE.
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Sometimes your coverage can be solid but the backhaul (connection between towers and the Internet) can be awful. AT&T's local reps even told me that the local LTE isn't going to be particularly good for a while until they upgrade the backhaul to the towers.
Your HSPA+ speeds seem low, but that's in comparison with my AT&T experiences. I might try doing a speedtest comparison of LTE between my Nexus 5 and my Find 7a if I can.
I was reading the pocketnow review and they had trouble getting the phone to work on AT&T and T-mobile in the US. Does this phone even support T-Mobile LTE bands? In most areas T-Mobile has their LTE on the AWS band.
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It actually does support them...I was told there was 4g here but there isn't as of yet
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Mine does get all of these (4G, H, H+, etc.) but the problem is most of the time it can't even get data connection.
GPRS Setting for LTE works for Me
I was having problems connecting to data,calls no problem (OPPO FIND 7 USA).
Anyway,the automatic APN settings weren't right for me,I had to manually set the APN Protocol setting to IPV4 (wasn't set,reading Not Set) & it finally connected to 4G LTE.
Here's the strange part:
The APN Name (On OPPO FIND 7,USA Model) is T-Mobile GPRS NOT T-Mobile LTE.
If I changed the name,it wouldn't connect to data at all.
From best I can tell via web search, GPRS is synonymous with 2G,however,I have 4G LTE when this APN Name is used.
I've seen others having a hard time connecting to the network & seems this bug arose in the latest update.
Anyway,my settings are identical to those in the pics in the OP EXCEPT the very 1st line,the APN Name.
Where I'm at right now is notorious for a weak signal due to building/equipment interference,however,I'm picking up an excellent signal (-90 to -80dBm / 53asu) on LTE:13
Have you tried to turn on LTE 4G by going in the dialer type *#*#4636#*#* phone information and set preferred network as LTE only ?
Snorl4x said:
Have you tried to turn on LTE 4G by going in the dialer type *#*#4636#*#* phone information and set preferred network as LTE only ?
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Yes.
As it is now,w/the APN Name as T-Mobile GPRS & in the hidden menu,changing the preferred network to LTE has no effect,it stays connected to LTE & everything below that which is available in my area.
I just left it as UNKNOWN.
I tried changing the APN Name to T-Mobile LTE & it immediately disconnects,regardless of any other changes in the hidden menus.
As the phone senses/sets-up Auto APN,the only apparent thing that is omitted is the APN Protocol setting,which by default on my phone & SIM Card registered Not Set.
Changing that value to IPV4 (from Not Set) is what made the difference.
Perhaps this quirk has something to do with 2G in my area having been replaced/upgraded to 4G & 4G LTE & the phone doesn't sense the difference/recognize the difference but in name only,but,accepts the 4G/LTE Connection.
Not knowing all things network/etc..,this seems like a possible explanation.
All I know is that I have an excellent connection & fast speeds w/browsing/etc.....
I don't care what the phone calls it,or sees it as,success is success.
I've seen stranger things than this........
I have since replaced my SIM CARD & had no problems connecting to T-MOBILE's 4G LTE,no modification of the APN was needed.
However,this is while flashed to CYANOGENMOD 11 nightlies,have no idea if the previous issues would pop-up if running the stock COLOR 1.2.4i O/S.
I have had issues with T-mobile LTE. Played around with all the settings. Deleted the APN and created a new one, etc. It works now, but I didn't do anything special, it started working randomly a day or 2 later
Strangely enough I'm having the same problem getting 3g with Virgin (EE/TMobile) in the UK
It can take a while for LTE to provision after setting up the APN. Set it and let it try for about an hour.
APN
The APN setting should have no effect on this.
You have 2 different fields when you type *#*#4636#*#*, gsm service and gprs service. If gsm service does not show "in service", you can use any APN in the world and it still won't work.
Is there a way you can set the phone to just access the 4g band? 4g in my area is stable, but I think my phone keeps dropping lte signal over and over because its very intermittent signal here in this area.
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joho5 said:
Is there a way you can set the phone to just access the 4g band? 4g in my area is stable, but I think my phone keeps dropping lte signal over and over because its very intermittent signal here in this area.
thanks
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Ok I found the "4636" menu, and I have an att phone and it was set to LTE + CDMA/LTEEVDO
That's not right is it?
I put it on WDCMA because the 4g network is much more stable around here...but any reason why mine is defaulting to a cdma network?
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Do you have option for LTE only? I use LTE only sometimes at work on a T-Mobile m8. I can still receive text but no calls. And yeah, if you're on an at&t m8, you shouldn't be using/defaulting to CDMA. You're gsm, wcdma and LTE. Try wcdma preferred or wcdma only.
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Got a new F460S on Swappa and love it, but have one question: unlike my previous phone, this never shows a "4G" symbol when connected to the network. Does show LTE and is fine then, data connection very fast. But when out of LTE area, shows only 3G and never 4G, at the same locations where my previous device (Galaxy Note 3) did show 4G. The data connection does seem very slow when 3G is indicated. Is there any way to enable 4G for AT&T network on this device?
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Got a new F460S on Swappa and love it, but have one question: unlike my previous phone, this never shows a "4G" symbol when connected to the network. Does show LTE and is fine then, data connection very fast. But when out of LTE area, shows only 3G and never 4G, at the same locations where my previous device (Galaxy Note 3) did show 4G. The data connection does seem very slow when 3G is indicated. Is there any way to enable 4G for AT&T network on this device?
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I have the F460S on AT&T and I get LTE, 4G, 3G etc... I have only gotten 4G in some areas but I usually get LTE. I used speed test to see the speeds and it was 30mbs download and 15mbs upload which is definitely LTE. The phone may only show 4G because its more accurate than saying LTE which the Note may have improperly listed if it was an AT&T model. My wifes S5 which is the AT&T model will say LTE (it only says 3G, LTE and never 4G) and my G3 will have 4G. I think it has more to do with what the phone is programmed to display and obviously AT&T would rather say LTE than 4G.
What happened ?
My 6 Pro (unlocked, rooted, January update) is unable to connect to my carrier's 3G network. My carrier is Xfinity Mobile (uses Verizon's network) and selecting 3G in settings or dialing *#*#4636#*#* and choosing WCDMA only, GSM/WCDMA preferred, etc results in my mobile connection being dropped. I can make and receive calls/texts just fine, and no problems connecting to their LTE or 5G networks. I am using the physical SIM from my old Pixel 3 XL, which had no problems connecting to their 3G network. Are there any fellow Pixel 6 Pro owners out there using Xfinity Mobile or Verizon as their carrier, and if so can you connect to 3G?
I just can tell you what happened in Germany, Operators disabled 3g networks. Maybe the same happens for you now
Aren't they in the process of killing off 3G, especially cdma? Very old tech.
I sure hope that's not what's happening, at least not until LTE coverage is on the same level as 3G. It just seems odd that 3G would be working fine one moment on my 3 XL (I only used 3G on it), then suddenly quit a few minutes later after transferring my SIM to my 6 Pro and getting it set up.
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I sure hope that's not what's happening, at least not until LTE coverage is on the same level as 3G. It just seems odd that 3G would be working fine one moment on my 3 XL (I only used 3G on it), then suddenly quit a few minutes later after transferring my SIM to my 6 Pro and getting it set up.
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Where are you where LTE coverage isn't good? LTE is starting to be replaced by 5G and LTE is at least 7 or 8 years old by now. Do you live in a rural area?
The 3G Network Shutdown May Disable Your Phone (and More)
Mobile carriers are shutting down their 3G wireless networks to make room for new technology, but this change can have a big impact for anyone on older devices. Starting in 2022, companies like Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile will phase out the older wireless network to accommodate expansion of 5G...
www.nbcboston.com
3G CDMA Network Shut off date set for December 31, 2022
We will turn off the last of the 3G CDMA network on December 31, 2022. Customers who still have a 3G device will continue to be strongly encouraged to make a change now.
www.verizon.com
I found both of those articles. And according to the second, Verizon is shutting down it's cdma network effective December 31, 2022.
rsbenedict said:
Where are you where LTE coverage isn't good? LTE is starting to be replaced by 5G and LTE is at least 7 or 8 years old by now. Do you live in a rural area?
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At home coverage is fine, but when I head up into the mountains to snowboard like last weekend, then I'm screwed.
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I found both of those articles. And according to the second, Verizon is shutting down it's cdma network effective December 31, 2022.
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Darn, I guess I'd better start bringing change for the pay phone when we go skiing/snowboarding...
I'm surprised there's any coverage at all in those places. 2g should work which is emergency services.
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I'm surprised there's any coverage at all in those places. 2g should work which is emergency services.
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The small ski resorts on the east coast that I go to aren't too far from civilization. My 3 XL had no problems picking up 3G at these places.
Do you know if those towers are still doing 3g or they switched them to another frequency? I haven't been on 3g except when traveling in Europe.
Xfinity Mobile's 3G is not GSM/WCDMA but CDMA/EvDo because they're using the Verizon network. That's probably why it's not working. Try using that setting.
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Do you know if those towers are still doing 3g or they switched them to another frequency? I haven't been on 3g except when traveling in Europe.
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I still need to contact my carrier and ask if/where they've started disabling 3G. I would not be shocked if they've started shutting it down near my house, but I would be surprised if the towers near the ski resorts were not still doing 3G. Driving through the small rural towns on the way to the resort is like going back in time 50-100 years. These areas seem like they're last on the list to get any form of infrastructure updates.
EtherealRemnant said:
Xfinity Mobile's 3G is not GSM/WCDMA but CDMA/EvDo because they're using the Verizon network. That's probably why it's not working. Try using that setting.
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Still no luck. I suspect Verizon has started disabling their 3G network in my area, or uses a frequency not supported by this device.
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I still need to contact my carrier and ask if/where they've started disabling 3G. I would not be shocked if they've started shutting it down near my house, but I would be surprised if the towers near the ski resorts were not still doing 3G. Driving through the small rural towns on the way to the resort is like going back in time 50-100 years. These areas seem like they're last on the list to get any form of infrastructure updates.
Still no luck. I suspect Verizon has started disabling their 3G network in my area, or uses a frequency not supported by this device.
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Yeah it should definitely be supported by the modem from the specs I've seen but it's probably being activated as CDMAless now that I think about it because there was an issue early on where chat functions didn't work right unless it was activated that way. There was a whole big uproar on reddit about it with the 5a and then it happened again with the 6/6 Pro.