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Hope this is the correct location for this thread for this, I apologize if it isn't.
I am trying to connect to an apple TV device (to display my tablet on a projector wirelessly) and all the apps I have found only allow me to show videos, pictures or music. I would like to have it mirror my screen. I tried the mirror screen button and I can't get it to recognize the apple TV device.
Is this function not available for android users (my friend with an Ipad can quickly and easily connect to it and it shows his desktop and his browser when accesses the internet) or do I need to be rooted or is there a specific app that I"ve overlooked?
Thank you so much.
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Hope this is the correct location for this thread for this, I apologize if it isn't.
I am trying to connect to an apple TV device (to display my tablet on a projector wirelessly) and all the apps I have found only allow me to show videos, pictures or music. I would like to have it mirror my screen. I tried the mirror screen button and I can't get it to recognize the apple TV device.
Is this function not available for android users (my friend with an Ipad can quickly and easily connect to it and it shows his desktop and his browser when accesses the internet) or do I need to be rooted or is there a specific app that I"ve overlooked?
Thank you so much.
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I went through this path before and let me tell you...It's not worth the trouble try to mirror your phone to your Apple TV. I found a really solution is to get an Android TV box (just like your phone) and plug directly to your TV and you have Android device on your TV. The device is very compact (as small as a usb stick) but running Android 4.4 quad core and what ever you can do with your phone, you could do the same with TV box. You also could use your phone/tablet/wireless keyboard or wireless mouse to control the Android TV box. So you don't need to use your phone to stream/mirror any more because your TV is now your phone...basically...or you could download apps (many to choose from) from playstore to stream video/pictures from your phone to TV if you still wish to do so.
buhohitr said:
I went through this path before and let me tell you...It's not worth the trouble try to mirror your phone to your Apple TV. I found a really solution is to get an Android TV box (just like your phone) and plug directly to your TV and you have Android device on your TV. The device is very compact (as small as a usb stick) but running Android 4.4 quad core and what ever you can do with your phone, you could do the same with TV box. You also could use your phone/tablet/wireless keyboard or wireless mouse to control the Android TV box. So you don't need to use your phone to stream/mirror any more because your TV is now your phone...basically...or you could download apps (many to choose from) from playstore to stream video/pictures from your phone to TV if you still wish to do so.
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Thanks for the reply, however I'm not attempting to connect to my TV or my personal projector so I can't install my own device to it.
Is there a thread already discussing this out there? I couldn't find one.
Are there any other options?
Thank you
Is your Apple TV connected to your projector?
buhohitr said:
Is your Apple TV connected to your projector?
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It is.
Sithlyone said:
It is.
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Maybe you don't understand what's Android TV box, it's exactly like your Apple TV, but it's running Android 4.4 O/S which is exactly like your cell phone and it comes in 2 different size. First size is small like Rogu or Apple TV, second size is as small as an USB stick. The biggest different is it acts just like your phone. It plugged directly to your projector. So when you turn on the TV box you will see Android on the screen with youtube, browser, Facebook, Gmail, hotmail,contacts, calendar, map, gps, google drive cloud storage etc...it can connect through your home wifi or direct ethernet. Search youtube for "Android TV box" once you have this, you will cut Netflix, Hulu plus, Amazon prime, because it will provide you with the LATEST movies/TV show in HD quality for free. So at the end you don't need your phone anymore to push content to your projector, the Android TV box can do exactly what your phone can do, but you also have option to push content from your phone to the TV box in order to display on your projector too...as a bonus. You also can use your phone/tablet to control this box if you don't want to use its remote. In short, its like you connect your phone directly to the projector but you still have your real phone to make calls.
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Maybe you don't understand what's Android TV box, it's exactly like your Apple TV, but it's running Android 4.4 O/S which is exactly like your cell phone and it comes in 2 different size. First size is small like Rogu or Apple TV, second size is as small as an USB stick. The biggest different is it acts just like your phone. It plugged directly to your projector. So when you turn on the TV box you will see Android on the screen with youtube, browser, Facebook, Gmail, hotmail,contacts, calendar, map, gps, google drive cloud storage etc...it can connect through your home wifi or direct ethernet. Search youtube for "Android TV box" once you have this, you will cut Netflix, Hulu plus, Amazon prime, because it will provide you with the LATEST movies/TV show in HD quality for free. So at the end you don't need your phone anymore to push content to your projector, the Android TV box can do exactly what your phone can do, but you also have option to push content from your phone to the TV box in order to display on your projector too...as a bonus. You also can use your phone/tablet to control this box if you don't want to use its remote. In short, its like you connect your phone directly to the projector but you still have your real phone to make calls.
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You were right, I didn't know what an android box was. Thank you.
With that said I still don't if that will work for me. The projector is not my personal item and the apple tv is not mine either, they are used by many of us. If ipads and iphones can't connect to it then your solution (as good as it is) won't fix my problem.
Will the device connect to ipads/iphones?
Sithlyone said:
You were right, I didn't know what an android box was. Thank you.
With that said I still don't if that will work for me. The projector is not my personal item and the apple tv is not mine either, they are used by many of us. If ipads and iphones can't connect to it then your solution (as good as it is) won't fix my problem.
Will the device connect to ipads/iphones?
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You be the judge!! Everything is possible with Android!!
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I have read various threads online and here, but curious on a few things
1. What is the best controller to use?
2. Can a game controller and the fire remote work at the same time.
I am contemplating just getting the fire game controller, but have also thought maybe the ouya controller would be a good choice.
I mainly want to use it with RCB to play roms, but would also occasionally like to play some actual games on the fire tv too.
Mainly I use my fire tv for xbmc, pandora and netflix only. I don;t use any amazon videos etc on it.
My fire tv is rooted. I have read that if you use six axis that it disables the fire remote, is that correct?
I need to keep the system wife and kid friendly, and don;t want to get phone calls telling me they cannot remote control it with the remote.
Thanks for any help and insights into it.
I haven't done much gaming on aftv. But I can answer 2 parts
Yes. Sixaxis highjacks the Bluetooth. I think the only way to get the remote back is to go back into sixaxis app or reboot. But of course the ps3 will work as a remote.
I bought a ouya gamepad a few weeks back because the were cheap at bestbuy (and now target 20.00) It works in addition to the aftv remote unlike ps3.
KLit75 said:
I haven't done much gaming on aftv. But I can answer 2 parts
Yes. Sixaxis highjacks the Bluetooth. I think the only way to get the remote back is to go back into sixaxis app or reboot. But of course the ps3 will work as a remote.
I bought a ouya gamepad a few weeks back because the were cheap at bestbuy (and now target 20.00) It works in addition to the aftv remote unlike ps3.
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Thanks.
Haven't seen the ouya for that low, always see it at $49.99 at target.
I was contemplating a usb wifi adapter for xbox 360 remote too, can pick those up for a few dollars and already have an xbox 360 controller too. That may be my best option.
The Ouya controller is working wonderfully on my Fire TV Stick. The ability to use it as a mouse greatly enhances the amount of sideloaded apps you can use.
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The Ouya controller is working wonderfully on my Fire TV Stick. The ability to use it as a mouse greatly enhances the amount of sideloaded apps you can use.
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So the ouya controller has a built in touchpad on it that works too?
xm41907 said:
The Ouya controller is working wonderfully on my Fire TV Stick. The ability to use it as a mouse greatly enhances the amount of sideloaded apps you can use.
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How are you using it as a mouse? I've been looking for a mouse app but they're all paid. This would be a great feature for the xfinity app but as far as I can tell it works just like aftv remote? I still need a mouse for certain selections.
Yes, the Ouya touchpad works wonderfully as a mouse. It's already detected as one when you connect the Ouya.
The Ouya controller is great, but the lack of back or menu buttons can be frustrating at times. Hunting down the remote to pause a game can be annoying, but ultimately not too big a deal.
WisdomWolf said:
The Ouya controller is great, but the lack of back or menu buttons can be frustrating at times. Hunting down the remote to pause a game can be annoying, but ultimately not too big a deal.
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The Ouya button at the bottom of the remote to connect it will take you back to home. In most officially approved Fire TV Stick games, it brings up that screen that asks if you want to return to the menu and loose progress. It's a good way to pause the game. Be aware though, not all games have that.
Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
Just get both lol. That's what I did
Fire stick is closer to a tablet than anything
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Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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The way I see it, AFSTV is a tablet used for streaming. Chromecast needs more apps and a native browser; maybe chromecast II will be able to compete in the same league (if it ever shows up).
depakjan said:
Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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4. Most US FTV's from Amazon, Staples, BestBuy, Radio Shack can still be rooted.
depakjan said:
Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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I have 2 of each, but hands down the Fire Stick is a better device with may more uses.
FS has MUCH MUCH(get the idea) better wifi.
The one thing I've found that the CC is better at is taking on a trip since you don't need the remote to get it connected on a new wifi. FS you MUST have remote so far as I can figure out.
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I have 2 of each, but hands down the Fire Stick is a better device with may more uses.
FS has MUCH MUCH(get the idea) better wifi.
The one thing I've found that the CC is better at is taking on a trip since you don't need the remote to get it connected on a new wifi. FS you MUST have remote so far as I can figure out.
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
I have both, and I never use my Chromecast. The only reason I could think of why I would use it is for my 2 movies in Google Play... The Fire Stick is just better in every way.
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
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yes neither works perfectly traveling, but having to bring remote just to get it to connect to phone sucks. The only thing chromecast did right was the private wifi setup with devices.
Both are good I'm leaning more to aftv just has more features.. But I also have chromecast connected as well it's good to have back up to send media to the tv with my phone
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
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Exactly. Although having just experienced this, you'll need to sideload a browser and some mouse mode (controller, mouse, phone mouse,etc) to actually navigate and accept terms.
What I do is tether to my phone and cast predownloaded movies using All cast.
Chromecast is great for basic stuff and used with a tablet. When using my phone, everything gets paused and occasionally locks up when getting calls and messages on my phone.
Fire TV stick is also a pretty good emulator player for retro gaming on the go.
Unless you need to stick with the small form factor or the budget doesn't allow, the correct answer if you can't decide between the two is to get a Nexus Player. If you are not in a hurry, wait until spring when I'm sure the market will be flooded with cheap Chinese Android TV boxes (Android TV version of Android, not just Android on a stick). Essentially the same as FireTV, but with Chromecast functionality built in.
If I had to choose between a Chomecast or AFTV stick I'd take AFTV stick every time.
Comes Down to Apps
You should research the App you know you want to use. I really just want a Chrome cast with a physical remote. I was excited when I grabbed a FireTV stick for $25. I was not excited that the Showtime Anytime app doesn't support on Dish on FireStickTV but does on Chrome cast?
I would tell you make a list of the apps you really want and see what platform has them.
thats what i did too
No brainer.. AFTV.
Maybe its just me, but i really dont have the urge to "cast" everything from various devices. A nice standalone box that can connect to networked drives on its own while having native streaming capability nicely beats a simple "casting" box...
If you have a miracast compatible computer, you can use that with the firetv.
Youtube on chromecast is good in "social" settings. Friends can queue up videos (eg. songs) to be played.
ziddey said:
If you have a miracast compatible computer, you can use that with the firetv.
Youtube on chromecast is good in "social" settings. Friends can queue up videos (eg. songs) to be played.
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I haven't seen 1 person post that Miracast works from a PC to the Fire TV.
See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/miracast-t2954237/
After using both for a few weeks apiece, the fire stick with xbmc and a remote >>>>>>>>>>>> the chromecast.
It gets tiresome having to keep turning my phone etc and having some files need transcoding with the chromecast. The stick, since they updated the firmware and fixed the video quality problems, is almost perfect and I love that remote
The only thing chromecast has over the fire tv is the ease of use with the phone with the little cast button but I can live without that
As soon as the fire sticks go on sale again, I'm picking up another 3!
The AFS seems to be a more flexible platform. It's essentially a Android Stick computer. Will be even better when someone figures out how to root it. For the most part you can sideload the same working apps that work on other Android devices. That's pretty useful.
The Chromecast seems to be more of a one trick pony. The casting feature is interesting but why would you not want to just run apps directly to control it?
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I have both.
I bought the Chromecast last year. The biggest use I got out of it was binge watching to catch up on Game of Thrones via HBO Go app. Video was definitely grainy, lower quality than the On-Demand HD from Comcast. Since then, I've rarely used it. Having to start everything via the phone or pad, then "casting" feels clunky. Casting videos/movies from my PC browser was choppy at best.
The Fire TV Stick is pretty smooth. I like having the physical remote and looking at the TV when I do things (i.e. not having to use/look at the phone). YouTube works (although I'm not able to play Purchases). Plex works well, as does SPMC (XBMC fork). NBC Live Extra app seems to work ok, but I'll get a better feel for that tonight watching football. HBO Go isn't officially available for the FireTV STICK yet. On my Fire TV (box) I am disappointed that HBO Go and Showtime Go (I would be there are some other apps too) do not have the ability to sign in for Comcast/Xfinity customers like the apps on iOs and Android do. I do realize that is a COMCAST limit, but it still stinks.
As @alton987 said earlier, it important to know the apps you want to use, and what is available on a particular device.
I bought a Fire TV Stick the day before Thanksgiving at Best Buy for $24.99. I bought it primarily for Amazon Prime.
So far, it's been working perfectly. Along with Prime movies and tv, I'm also using Prime music, Netflix, Crackle and AllCast. All work perfectly except for Netflix. On Netflix, video freezes about 10-15 minutes before the end of the movie, audio continues. I have to back out and then resume. Only takes a few seconds but it's annoying. It's the only app that's giving me a problem.
I also sideloaded BS Player and ES File Explorer. I wanted to use them for playing movies stored on my PC. Both are working just fine. I have mine connected to my A/V receiver (Yamaha). Picture quality is excellent, as is audio through my system.
I'm VERY pleased with the stick, and will buy another one for a second tv.
I have no experience with the Chromecast so I can't comment on it.
But the Fire tv stick is, for me, a no brainer if you subscribe to Amazon Prime. Terrific add-on to my system.
I am able to upload the apps to the fire stick but cannot seem to open them completely. I downloaded the wukong remote app, have a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to my Samsung un65h7150 which seems to have a pretty fast processor and also have the directv tablet app on the stick as well. I can sign in with directv but have great difficulty navigating with fire stick remote and the keyboard as well. I can get as far as highlighting a channel but to open it up never happens- no enter buttons work neither on the wukong 'try now'
Any help would be appreciated.
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I am able to upload the apps to the fire stick but cannot seem to open them completely. I downloaded the wukong remote app, have a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to my Samsung un65h7150 which seems to have a pretty fast processor and also have the directv tablet app on the stick as well. I can sign in with directv but have great difficulty navigating with fire stick remote and the keyboard as well. I can get as far as highlighting a channel but to open it up never happens- no enter buttons work neither on the wukong 'try now'
Any help would be appreciated.
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You need to side-load the app to your phone or tablet, open app and connect to your Firestick IP, once connected It will automatically install the wukong app on your firestick . Once you see the app under your main\apps you are good to go.
Hi thanks I thought it just wasn't completely compatible. I did download the 'appstofire', app from GP, opened it up after I had the wukong and direct tablet already downloaded (from gp) and then opened the appstofire app, selected those apps to upload then got an error to select setup. I then put in my IP and then was able to upload or transfer the wukong and directv apps to the stick. So you're saying they need to be sideloaded instead of how I'm doing it- I did see an app called fire tv stick side load app somewhere on here- I'll try that when I get in- hopefully this works since the 'appstofire' app didn't - thanks for your help :good:
Uninstall sideloaded apps. Go to playstore and download wukong app on your phone\tablet, lunch it and search for your box IP,select it and will attempt to connect, once connected it will automatically install wukong app on your fire TV. When this is all done you should be able to see the pointer on your screen and navigate through using your preferred type of build in modes ( touchpad, dpad, mouse or keyboard)
Hi not sure what I am doing wrong but once uninstalling the apps from the firestick and downloading the wukong app for 'kodi' instead of any other then launching it and selecting ip, it asks last 2 numbers which I put in and hit search and I get no device found which dosen't make sense. I have unkown sources on and usb degug on set, it tries to initialize but fails and says 1 minute to resolve but goes to a tutorial troubleshoot page without connecting?
bula1ca said:
Uninstall sideloaded apps. Go to playstore and download wukong app on your phone\tablet, lunch it and search for your box IP,select it and will attempt to connect, once connected it will automatically install wukong app on your fire TV. When this is all done you should be able to see the pointer on your screen and navigate through using your preferred type of build in modes ( touchpad, dpad, mouse or keyboard)
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Hi I know what you were explainging was a pretty simple, quick access to the application but I seem to be experiencing a problem connecting to it on my firestick. Once installing the app on my phone for example and then trying to access it on the stick, it shows ‘smart tv’ which is checked and ‘my devices’ which has a rectangular green box that is labeled ‘connect’ but not ‘firetv’. When tapping ‘connect', I get ‘initializing’ then failed to initialize showing the troubleshooting page suggesting developer options and usb debugging which are all on. The only other problem that I thought may be the issue was having all connections the same which they are now on the same wifi extender that has the best signal. This didn’t change anything. I then checked the IP address on the firestick which is 192.168.1.12 and it when hitting ‘Input IP to search’, it asks for the last 2 digits but when entering the 12, I quickly get ‘no devices found please try again. I then checked the IP on my tv and found its IP’s last 2 digits are 22 not 12 which I don’t see how I would change these or even if this would be the problem since it is the firestick that I am trying to get recognized. Besides, even though ‘smart tv’ shows up in the ‘New Devices’, Wukong is not functional with the actual tv either. The other suggestion they give was to install the server onto the tv but once copying that fires on to a flash drive then plugging it into my Samsung smart tv, I cant even access the file on the tv.
If you or anyone can shed any light on my situtuation - it would be appreciated
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I'm also stuck
When I use Wukong Remote, it doesn't detect my Fire TV. I have ADB debugging and Unknown Source both on. Might there be another setting I am missing so my Firestick can be detected?
Hi i have downloaded the Amazon Fire TV Utility App and i have added the ip from the Amazon Fire stick and CMD came up saying it had connected, i have then tried to load the settings.apk using the Amazon Fire TV Utility App but all i am getting is a CMD with this in it error: device offline followed by -waiting for device-
The Fire Stick is turned on and i have tried turning off my firewall and still the same problem.
Hi I managed to get it installed on the Fire Stick by running Amazon FireTV Utility App as administrator, i can now see the settings app on the fire stick and when i launch it i can see the Bluetooth option but if i click on it the app just closes it does this on what ever option i click in the settings app.
I am assuming you are on OS5.
Make sure you have the proper IP address (in FireTv Utilities app settings) for your box/stick then go in Settings/ Developer Options/and turn off and on ADB debugging two ot three times ....should work now.
Thank you for your reply i tried what you recommended but it still launches and then closes as soon as you select an option.
I'm also seeing the same thing. I've installed the settings.apk, but everytime I click on any entry, it kicks me out...
why do you need this settings.apk? what are you needing to change / use it for?
I have loaded Kodi on my fire stick and some of the apps require mouse support to navigate so i want to buy a bluetooth air mouse and all tutorials say you need to load the settings.pka and use the bluetooth options from with in that.
meanman1967 said:
I have loaded Kodi on my fire stick and some of the apps require mouse support to navigate so i want to buy a bluetooth air mouse and all tutorials say you need to load the settings.pka and use the bluetooth options from with in that.
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You don't need it.
FireOS 5 has better bluetooth support.
Here is my pairing of my Apple MagicTrackpad to the FireTV Stick (note the MagicMouse from 08 will not pair - Apple issue)
You can see me pair, pin is 0000, and the mouse cursor is that smallish circle in Kodi. The stock launcher has no mouse support, but FireStarter does.
Hi so all i need to do is get a Apple MagicTrackpad and it will work ?
meanman1967 said:
Hi so all i need to do is get a Apple MagicTrackpad and it will work ?
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I'm sure there are better Bluetooth nice to use. I just paired what is laying around. The drivers that the firetv has don't support tap to click on it so I have to click the touch pad which isn't easy unless it's on a table.
You will likely be able to use almost any Bluetooth mouse with the firetv.
I wouldn't recommend the apple trackpad for firetv usage.
The android mouse toggle app has worked well enough for me that I don't even bother with pairing a mouse.
Hi i just got the Mouse Toggle app and it finds my Amazon stick and connects everything is enables and at the bottom it says status started but on my phone it just says done at the bottom and there is no controls or anything. I have enclosed a screen shot. Thanks again for your help.
Thank you i have it all working great now.