Hi.
Why is G3 laggy ?
Mainly because of the heat issue it has, at least that's the case with me.
When the phone is at "normal" temperature after using internet and so on,
it gets a little warm. After that the thermat thtottling limits the max cpu freguency
to about 1200mhz. No wonder it gets laggy.
I did some testing.
I ran the Antutu about 20 times in different temperatures.
Before running Antutu, I booted the phone, closed all the apps, in airplane mode and waited 5 min before each test.
When the phone was "hot" I got scores about 32000. When warm, 37000 and when cold, in fridge, I got over 42000 every time.
The fridge also showed that full cpu speed was used, which was not the case when it was warm or hot.
So.
Some of you guys have a good cpu and motherboard, which means no lagging.
Some of us have not so good and that's why we get even reboots because of heat.
Easy fix from LG would be very strict thermal throttling for the reboot problem.
But at the same time we get even more laggy phone, because of lower cpu frequencys.
F..
I can never pick when it will heat up, but when it does the battery just drains (I'm running v10j).
I think it is a screen issue. Something to do with what the processor and screen run. I'm on 30-40% brightness almost all the time (which is a shame).
Benchmarking in the fridge... that is classic...
I'm starting to think it's the LG software on the phone causing the heat and lag, i recently had issues after removing an app (App Updates) then factory resetting after removing this app and factory reset it would break a few function in my phone including making me go through the setup process after every boot and recent apps menu not opening and notification bar somtimes not pulling down (restart sometimes fixes this) and unable to open settings from the notification bar and possibly other things BUT despite these issues my phone was VERY COLD with the screen on!! and MUCH less laggy. but after i reinstalled "App Updates" and factory reset the heat issue came back.
Just to be sure, i tried again with the same results:
I removed "App Updates" again and factory reset and the heat and lag went away again. (but some stuff breaks)
I installed "App Updates" again and factory reset and the heat and lag came back again. (but everything works again)
I'll take up your suggestion and try to freeze App Updates.
How do you freeze app update centre?
With Titanium Backup. In general I don't uninstall any app, I just freeze them. Works the same and I still can go back if something happen.
So. It's only working if we freeze the app then factory reset? After a factory reset it's staying freezed that is?
U don't really need to factory reset after freezing. Just freeze it and it will be as good as uninstalled, but, with always an option to defrost.
He factory reseted because he was facing issues.
Well, I mostly asked because there is no difference.
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Yesterdag I changed my screen protector on my TP-2. Because I didn't want my phone to go off during replacement, I switched it off and removed the battery.
When I restarted my phone, everything worked a lot faster than before. Internet performance was faster and I had GPS connection in a matter of seconds (indoors near a window). I had noticed that my phone had become slower in the past weeks. Soft resets had no effect.
I have my phone switched on 24/7, but now I get the impression that it's not a bad thing to switch it off for about 5 minutes every now and then.
Has anyone experienced the same behavour? (I use a Touch Pro 2, with a T-Mobiel ROM in the Netherlands).
Thanks for your replies.
Regards,
Rob.
nope, 'cause I know that you have "hidden" processes running in the background and by turning off the phone, you're just resetting everything so that there are no new applications running in the bg.
a program called 'arkswitch' allows you to close programs and free space on your tp2 without necessarily needing to reset it.
I did some soft resets, after I noticed my phone was getting slower. That had no effect. Only after a longer period of complete shutdown, the performance was back to normal. So other background apps couldn't have caused it.
But I'll see what I can find with 'arkswitch'
[Solved] I think
I use S2U2 to lock my phone. I had set the option 'full screen battery' to 'charging'. After I disabled this option and a soft reset, my GPS was up and running in a matter of seconds (even indoors). For some reason, this setting in S2U2 affects GPS detection and performance of my phone.
Perhaps someting to look into for the develloper.
So it looks like my problem is solved.
Hey guys, need some help. I have an AT&T H810 rooted 10o. My little cores seem to be running full out at 1440mhz even though my governor is set to Interactive. This is causing it to heat up incredible, to 70c+, and is draining the battery quickly. It seems to have only started occurring in the last few days! I can run it in powersave governor which fixes it to 384mhz, and it fixes the problem, but I don't understand why it is running at full speed under interactive now. The big cores do NOT have this problem AT ALL.
I've removed any apps I installed during that time, cleared my phones cache, cleared the memory, I have tried running it in airplane mode, I've looked into what apps were running and it seems to be very few. Turned location off. I've tried freezing the play services because I have been getting a very intermittent force close. I have also tried to disable all xposed modules, and used avg to scan for any malware. Possibly init.d? Possibly the new xposed v79? I'm at a loss as to what is causing this!
Does anyone have any other ideas as to what could be happening?
There's always the good old factory reset if everything else fails.
Just asking the obvious but there is no offending wakelocks or anything that sticks out in the battery usage stats?
spartan268 said:
There's always the good old factory reset if everything else fails.
Just asking the obvious but there is no offending wakelocks or anything that sticks out in the battery usage stats?
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Battery usage Android OS is highest at 33, followed by screen at 16%.
Wakelocks, I seem to have them under control with amplify, and I don't see any new ones.
Question about factory reset, I am not near a pc for the next few days, will it cause any problems with xposed or my rooted system image, and basically what can I expect with it? I came from a M8 where with custom recovery I was pretty fearless with being to wipe and refresh, can't do that here.
Noticed that disabling 2 of the little cores with kernel auditor really helps with the heat buildup of the phone with not much slowdown
elementalfusion said:
Noticed that disabling 2 of the little cores with kernel auditor really helps with the heat buildup of the phone with not much slowdown
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Doesn't solve why it's running at full speed, but I'll keep that in mind.
question about factory reset, I am not near a pc for the next few days, will it cause any problems with xposed or my rooted system image, and basically what can I expect with it? I came from a M8 where with custom recovery I was pretty fearless with being to wipe and refresh, can't do that here.
Personally I never done a factory reset myself yet so i cannot comment.
For the most part it does look like you have something to work with seeing Android OS is taking up the most battery. The hard part is tracking down which process. I'm not the best at this so maybe someone else can chime in. Try taking a look at your currently running processes and see if there's anything odd
Well, after a few factory resets which did not affect xposed, I was able to resolve it to where the cores now return to 384mhz idle. It was something that was installed, and it took 3 or 4 resets after restoring my app backups, and I'm still not sure which app was the culprit. I'm possibly wondering if it was the Amplify module
Sorry for bumping this. I just suffered from this problem and it seems for me it was antutu. For some reasons it was running the background keeping the 4 small cores at 1,2-1,4 cuz constantly. I stopped it and now it's back to normal. Just wondering why it started itself in the first place.
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I have been using fulmics for a long time now. I live somewhere where the temperature is always something around 17-25 degrees on summer and never had an overheating problem. Now, I'm on holiday somewhere hotter (canary islands) and the 30-ish temperatures are causing my phone to reboot if i take a couple of pictures or if I open apps like pokemon go. I think this has something g to do with heat because back at the hotel, I don't have these issues at all. Even when i perform the same tasks at night, the phone does not reboot.
Now, I can't remember if I chose the stock or the the thermal throttle values upon installation but I'd like to ask, which would be the best option to avoid this issue and also, any other advice you could give in order to mitigate this issue. I asked on the fulmics thread over at xda but the mods locked it because some asshole didn't stop asking the dev for Etas. Screw that guy.
Any help would be welcome! Thanks!
Hi, there will probably be an update to fulmics 6.0 which should solve overheating problems. I'd recommend for you to move to Cloudy G3 2.5 or XenonHD with aCC kernel just for now.
I also have problems with heating. When the phone is at direct sunlight for some time it become irresponsible. I mean it don't reboot but message pop up "system ui stopped ....." and screen lock. I wonder if fulmics ROM is the reason for that. As far as I remember upon installation I choose stock settings, kernel.
Update! : This morning, I went out and the phone got literally unusable. Constant bootloops. Sometimes getting to see the wallpaper but after a couple of seconds, before the whole system boots, rebooting again. The temperature today is quite lower than the previous days and the phone sure didn't feel that hot on the back (power button is my thermometer). Back at the hotel, I tried to backup in order to wipe data and see if it's a data corruption issue. I had to try a couple of times to backup because the phone would reboot half way. I finally made it to the point where I reinstall the rom, before wiping, and the phone would reboot while fulmics was getting installed. I then remembered reading somewhere about the possibility of being a fubar battery, so I plugged the thing to the wall: instant fix. No more reboots. I even restored the backup without any reboots. Booted the rom perfectly. Let it load. Open pokemon go, see it works. Unplug from the wall and in less than twenty seconds: reboot.
Now, I'm on twrp without performing any task and saw my phone lose 30% of the battery in 45 minutes just sitting still. So yes, my bet is on a broken battery.
Whaddayathink?
My G2 acted like this when the battery died. Its a sure sign
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Update! : This morning, I went out and the phone got literally unusable. Constant bootloops. Sometimes getting to see the wallpaper but after a couple of seconds, before the whole system boots, rebooting again. The temperature today is quite lower than the previous days and the phone sure didn't feel that hot on the back (power button is my thermometer). Back at the hotel, I tried to backup in order to wipe data and see if it's a data corruption issue. I had to try a couple of times to backup because the phone would reboot half way. I finally made it to the point where I reinstall the rom, before wiping, and the phone would reboot while fulmics was getting installed. I then remembered reading somewhere about the possibility of being a fubar battery, so I plugged the thing to the wall: instant fix. No more reboots. I even restored the backup without any reboots. Booted the rom perfectly. Let it load. Open pokemon go, see it works. Unplug from the wall and in less than twenty seconds: reboot.
Now, I'm on twrp without performing any task and saw my phone lose 30% of the battery in 45 minutes just sitting still. So yes, my bet is on a broken battery.
Whaddayathink?
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Model: Galaxy Note 4
Android: 6.01
Rooted: No
My phone once again is almost impossible to use due to constant lag and slowness. After using one of many apps to identify what was consuming all my CPU I discovered it was the Android OS process and then I drilled down using top command (Elixir 2 app) to identify sub-process system_server. The system_server process was constantly utilizing >40% CPU and when this is coupled with user processes, my CPU was pegged in the 95-100% all the time. This made my phone just about impossible to use.
I encountered this issue approx. 3mo ago and I tried everything to resolve, but ended up doing a factory reset to resolve it. after the same thing a few months ago. Doing a factory reset was the only resolution unfortunately at the time. Now that it the issue has returned, I have tried just about everything to fix it without doing a factory reset, here are some of the trouble-shooting:
Toggled bluetooth on/off
Disabled improve location accuracy options for both BT and WiFi
Removed and re-added my 2 Google accounts
Disabled Google account sync of Gmail, and selective options.
Toggled from Global/GSM to LTE mobile network mode
What did clear the system_server CPU usage issue was putting my phone in Airplane Mode. All this tells me it is radio related....
My phone has been extremely slow and hanging as a result the past three days to a point where it was FRUSTRATING the hell out me, at one point I almost threw it!!! After searching high and low on the web, I couldn't deal with it any long----so I too the plunge and performed another factory reset---which fixed the problem. Since this was the second time in 4 months, I'd like help identifying what is causing this to avoid it in the future.
Thank you in advance everyone!
Bump; 24 views and no replies yet.... I cannot be the only one who experienced this issue. Can we start a dialog on possible causes and fixes other than a full factory reset?
Thank you in advance,
i have the same issue just installed https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-noble-rom-t3392289/post68300761#post68300761 and system_server consumes ~15% along with zygote ~6%. did you resolve problem?
guruleenyc said:
Model: Galaxy Note 4
Android: 6.01
Rooted: No
My phone once again is almost impossible to use due to constant lag and slowness. After using one of many apps to identify what was consuming all my CPU I discovered it was the Android OS process and then I drilled down using top command (Elixir 2 app) to identify sub-process system_server. The system_server process was constantly utilizing >40% CPU and when this is coupled with user processes, my CPU was pegged in the 95-100% all the time. This made my phone just about impossible to use.
I encountered this issue approx. 3mo ago and I tried everything to resolve, but ended up doing a factory reset to resolve it. after the same thing a few months ago. Doing a factory reset was the only resolution unfortunately at the time. Now that it the issue has returned, I have tried just about everything to fix it without doing a factory reset, here are some of the trouble-shooting:
Toggled bluetooth on/off
Disabled improve location accuracy options for both BT and WiFi
Removed and re-added my 2 Google accounts
Disabled Google account sync of Gmail, and selective options.
Toggled from Global/GSM to LTE mobile network mode
What did clear the system_server CPU usage issue was putting my phone in Airplane Mode. All this tells me it is radio related....
My phone has been extremely slow and hanging as a result the past three days to a point where it was FRUSTRATING the hell out me, at one point I almost threw it!!! After searching high and low on the web, I couldn't deal with it any long----so I too the plunge and performed another factory reset---which fixed the problem. Since this was the second time in 4 months, I'd like help identifying what is causing this to avoid it in the future.
Thank you in advance everyone!
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I can see why you arrived at that conclusion but I'd caution a second look . I think its your wakelocks bud which is radio connected . until I disabled the lame google one my phone would get ridiculously hot and I mean physically hot as in to the touch turns out my problem was all the damn services the play store is attempting to use. It$ rediculous 1 app has twice almost 3 times as many service request as the rest of the phone . makes me wish play games was Foss compatible so bad I threw in on the bounty for it. But yeah try a wakelock sheriff specifically on play services and its stupid 22 (I think was what mine was) connected services and see if that helps
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It looks like removing the screen pattern/password stops bumping system_server +110%, and it runs ≃ 1% CPU and 6% RAM.
Accordingly, CPU frequency is also lower. (1,4GHZ to 1Ghz).
I've had my Note 10+ since launch and it's been amazing. Recently the phone has been getting warm, nothing unbearable though. I have tried various things such as booting into safe mode to see if there any rouge apps. I have also tried wipe cache partition but it still exhibits the same warm feeling. Never had this issue before. My last resort will be doing a factory reset. If anyone can give me ideas that would be great.
Best thing to do would prob be send it to samsung or your network
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Best thing to do would prob be send it to samsung or your network
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I was thinking about doing that, but that would be my last resort after a factory reset
Any other suggestions?
That's all I could think of sorry
If you use Android Auto it will turn the screen on when it connects through Bluetooth. If you have it plugged in it isn't a problem but if you are in the Car when it connects to the Bluetooth it will automatically activate and the screen will stay on even in your Pocket. You have to manually exit it if it starts and you don't want it to.
OP does not report battery states when phone getting hot (does battery discharges fast?). Also not clear in what state phone gets hot (in use, while charging, in idle state?).
Getting warm relates to use of energy => battery fast discharging or battery fast charging.
Check if there are apps using a lot of power, maybe even in background, they may be the cause. Remove or limit use of those apps.
If no apps are producing the heat, then it could be hardware issue: return phone checked by Samsung or service centre.
Upgrade to Android 10 may be good moment to do factory reset, and see from there...