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So due to my Verizon contract situation (need to add a line for a family member anyway, don't have unlimited data) I have the option to get a Droid Turbo for $99 after rebate and give them my G3 instead of getting them a G3 or a Turbo for the same $99. In that situation, what are pros/cons of the two phones? My current thinking:
LG G3 Pros
1) Edge to edge screen gets you an extra 0.2" of real estate for same size phone
2) Removable battery (and I got a 2nd battery + charger from the promo by emailing LG)
3) Micro SD slot (for storing photos/video + caching majority of my Google Music)
4) I actually use the IR blaster for my projector/soundbar/cable box)
5) Thinner/lighter + good handfeel with curved back. I didn't like the 2nd gen Moto X when I held it, don't see how Turbo will be different unless I get the Ballistic Nylon backing
Droid Turbo Pros
1) Presumably smoother/less laggy between the 805 and close to stock Android. I don't really game on the phone but might start once things look pretty enough (do run Drastic's excellent DS emulator though, although that feels like it runs better on Tegra hardware)
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
3) Camera - 21MP is a beast, and 4K video is nice to have even if I probably won't use it at 24fps. I assume the Panoramas get fixed soon + can always use 3P app. I never got any value from the LG G3 laser focus and in fact thought the camera was one of the few unsatisfactory things about it
4) Battery life despite the "2 day" controversy. Also nice to have wireless charging/really fast charging. However, I already replaced the NFC with a Qi + NFC from Aliexpress on my G3
5) Ooh look it's new and shiny (this is currently the biggest reason I am considering switching, stupid I know)
6) For whatever reason, mic or connectivity, Moto seems to do better when it comes to call clarity, I find the G3 a step back from the G2, and if the Turbo is like the 2nd gen Moto X it will be better.
Question Marks:
1) Recent Verizon LG G3 bootloader unlock. Assume I can flash debloated Android 5.0 shortly and get a similar experience. Also worried that Turbo won't get unlock as Verizon exclusive limits dev community appeal somewhat
2) LG G3 corporate email (exchange) app was near unusable but seems to be a key fix in recent OTA (haven't taken yet). May be less of an issue with Exchange support in the Android 5.0 Gmail app (currently using Accompli, but it just came out of Beta and is still pretty unstable and doesn't always refresh consistently)
3) Screen - on one hand AMOLED but apparently brightness is pretty awful. I REALLY liked the G3 screen
4) Wifi ac - never got LG G3 to work right and I want to get value from my ac router, maybe Turbo will be better
5) Audio, not sure I love earpiece as speaker and low voltage headphones (I generally keep the volume all the way up when wearing IEMs with comply tips on flights - bad I know)
As you see from the endless replies, don't think anyone is going to talk you out of it.
All i have to say is - to me the DT is very very ugly - it looks almost akin to the Atrix 2 - *vomit*
And hardware buttons? - what is this 2009?
But whatever floats your boat.
. What were they thinking ... Holy Jesus on roller skates ! Its hideous ... No thanks .. G3 got me hooked
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I bought the Turbo on release day, coming from the G3 and I plan to return it. I'm on my phone so can't type too much, but check out the Turbo sub-forum and you'll see many people complaining about worse WiFi performance, nylon issues with dirt, off-color and over saturated display, much worse camera, and only about the same battery life.
For me, the cellular radios are about the same within 1-2dBm, but WiFi is around 5-10dBm worse with the Turbo. The camera also is much worse, I made a G3 vs Turbo thread on the Turbo sub-forum, where I compared photos, they all lacked detail and weren't very good. Lots of people are complaining about the poor camera.
I also find the battery to be about the same as the G3, I was expecting significantly better.
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I call BS on Motorola radios being better.
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Droid Turbo Pros
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
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G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
There may be some legitimate reasons to,get the Turbo over the G3. But you didn't list any of them (like moto voice, car mode, etc, etc, etc). In fact, I think all the reasons you have listed have been debunked already.
Honestly it sounds like you just want the newest and shiniest thing - which is fine. But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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That exactly !
All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
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All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
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My d850 runs fine and no complaints here.. Glad I'm not one of the ones (which is most seems like ) that has a laggy phone ... I guess my setup skills are I'm good shape
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That extra 1GB RAM might be the difference though.
Nexus 5
550mb used, 1,3GB free
LG G3 (16GB Orange version)
1,2GB Used, 603MB free
MalekoUK said:
G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
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Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
It doesn't matter if the droid Turbo has a Snapdragon 805 processor (supposedly faster). If you don't optimize the phone settings it will still lag. My and my wife's D850 G3 doesn't have the lag so many here complain about. My Antutu test scores consistently in the 40ks with highest at 41252. Battery life as high as 50 hours between charge and that is with screen usage at 54% and SOT at 5 hrs 22 mins. I have gone 6 hrs 19 mins between charge with 21% battery remaining at 55% screen usage. Have over 50 apps installed on each G3.
Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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I agree that it will take forever for AT&T and Verizon to release official OTA. But as soon as the base version is released, ROM developers will work their magic to bring Lollipop to the other variations.
hwong96 said:
Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
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Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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LG has already announced in several European countries (UK, Germany, etc.) that the Lollipop update will be on its way before the new year. Europe has the D855.
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Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
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Everything he has listed is just a click away ... He is still utilizing the phone fine ,its just battery saving tips dude lol ... Its not like he isn't using it ha ...
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Verizon is offering the new LG G Pad X at reduced price of $49.99 if you buy a LG G4. For $10/mo add'l to your current plan it can be added and get's full time LTE, 4g and 3G that you share with your phone's data plan. Sound like an amazing deal, but I'm worried this tablet is junk spec wise and will be sluggish and a pain to use for anything other than low bandwith surfing and reading books.
So unfortunately, I can't find any information on this new G Pad X. I think it has a Snap 615 Octa-core, but I read somewhere it only has 1 gig of RAM down from the original G Pad that 2gb of RAM. Has anyone taken advantage of this Vzw special and played with this tablet?
I have the tablet, it's working great so far. Hoping this weekend to try a few things to root it since it is still 5.0. It is a 615 offshore, with 1884 megs ram and 9.33 gigs available storage when clean (16 gig total with system, etc). All this verified in cpu-z. Full size usb port is nice. Battery is great... I'm at 28 h on, one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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I have the tablet, it's working great so far. Hoping this weekend to try a few things to root it since it is still 5.0. It is a 615 offshore, with 1884 megs ram and 9.33 gigs available storage when clean (16 gig total with system, etc). All this verified in cpu-z. Full size usb port is nice. Battery is great... I'm at 28 h on, one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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That's great to hear. I'm guessing it isn't a powerhouse of a tablet but for 50 bucks it's a steal!
Can you let me know if you run into any hiccups with it?
I do a little online gaming with my phone but I'd love to switch over to a 8" tablet!
The only real complaint so far is that the time to rotate the screen seems excessive... But everything else had been butter smooth. A decent replacement for my nexus 7 2013. Wish it had more storage, but with an sd slot and a full size usb, that's not a big deal at all
Yeah I went ahead and got it. And I'm really loving having the LTE service on it instead of just wifi and it's been surprisingly smooth. Also to answer my earlier concern, it does have 2gb of RAM, not 1.
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one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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One hour screen on time and at 69%? That's pretty horrendous for a tablet.
An hour of 3d gaming, and 30 hours almost off the charger. That's way better than my nexus 7 wifi ever did
I haven't been paying close attention to battery life because I knew it had the 4800mAH, although now that I think about it, I did a moderate to heavy use day yesterday with it and had to put it on the car charger around 6pm. I started my day around 9am at 100%. At work today so really won't use it that much, just at lunch. I'll see how it holds up.
In general I really like it coming from an ASUS 10" T100. An 8.3" is a much better size for me as far as handling it. Also it's not quite as pretty as a new galaxy tab screen but it friggin blows my ASUS away. It's also very snappy and gaming and surfing have been basically studderless. I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if there's any benefit to having a LG G4 and G-Pad.... you would think LG would have some kind of sync option other than just the android standard stuff like email, contacts, messaging, google play.
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I haven't been paying close attention to battery life because I knew it had the 4800mAH, although now that I think about it, I did a moderate to heavy use day yesterday with it and had to put it on the car charger around 6pm. I started my day around 9am at 100%. At work today so really won't use it that much, just at lunch. I'll see how it holds up.
In general I really like it coming from an ASUS 10" T100. An 8.3" is a much better size for me as far as handling it. Also it's not quite as pretty as a new galaxy tab screen but it friggin blows my ASUS away. It's also very snappy and gaming and surfing have been basically studderless. I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if there's any benefit to having a LG G4 and G-Pad.... you would think LG would have some kind of sync option other than just the android standard stuff like email, contacts, messaging, google play.
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There's the Qpair app, that lets you see/respond to notifications from your phone on the tablet. Worked with my g3 before shipping it back, so not exclusive to g4, but nice still.
Yea I have a LG 7" tablet with a SD 400, Nexus 7 2013, a Winbook with windows, and now the X8.3.
I haven't touched it yet outside of general factory reset and setup since I've been playing with my G4. Work bought it so I can juggle tasks when I travel.
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Yea I have a LG 7" tablet with a SD 400, Nexus 7 2013, a Winbook with windows, and now the X8.3.
I haven't touched it yet outside of general factory reset and setup since I've been playing with my G4. Work bought it so I can juggle tasks when I travel.
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Its rootable btw using the LG rooting COM procedure.
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I walked into my local Verizon store with the hopes of trading in my iPhone 4S for a Droid Turbo 2. I found out that I didn't have to pay anything upfront for the phone I wanted. As I was about to leave the store already over the moon with the Turbo 2 the sales person asked me what I planned to do with the iPhone 4S and I replied "Nothing, I had no plans for it". He then told me that I could trade it in for a FREE tablet and he showed me the LG G Pad X 8.3. I jumped on the offer due to the size and stylus. I have been using it for about a month and I can say that for a free tablet it is pretty good. The screen is vibrant and clear and the speakers sound average. I have ran into what I call "LG Lag" where there are moment when the tablet gets stuck for time and kind of bogs down, sometimes with very little or no apps running. The full size USB port on the top is a nice feature but I thought I would be using it a lot more then I do. The battery life is good for the size of the power pack, giving me sometimes a full day of medium to heavy use. I am happy with this tablet but I find myself using my phone more then the tablet for games and "YouTubing" due to the slight lag I get sometimes. I feel like I can be very productive with this tablet but have yet to really test it as my "laptop replacement".
Conclusion: It's worth what I paid for!
Yea sweet tab.
I think the lag is a LG thing. My G4 was laggy until the recent update from Verizon. Now it screams.
The Tabs dont really get updates as often. So maybe the next update will fix the software. The 615 chip should not be seeing lag. I think they have some rogue background process or something because it randomly does it.
My screen has a very reddish tint to it and pretty bad screen bleed. I almost want to do a warranty swap just to find a better one but it works for what I use it for.
I have a root method up for the X8.3
Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
Yeah I cannot go T-Mobile and will not be doing that I am an Unlimited Data guy, I just going to keep my T2 for now but I am going to try the HTC10 - I hate Samsung and only like 5.2 or smaller screens so LG's are out. Just frustrated with Moto
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
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^^^+1 Totally agree, I'd suggest buying unlocked and unbranded from now on. I thought I could take going to a DT2 from a Nexus 6. Long story short, I could not. I got my unlocked Moto X Pure from Swappa yesterday. Goodbye DT2 forums, it's been unproductive.
I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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Hot the HTC 10 quality is so much better than T2 - I switch phones a lot cost no object - I love the size and the quality of audio. I miss the battery life a little but I got so fed up with Moto. Not only that my shatterproof screen now has a soft dent in it - I had a screen protector too. I will probably get a Nexus if they co,e 5.2 or smaller
Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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On top of all had a screen protector and saw a small dent in it, removed it and guess what that shatterproof lens is soft plastic, it has 1/8" soft indenture in it - right in the middle of the screen. I called Moto and demanded they replace it, just a joke that they put a lens on a phone that actually indents. They wanted me to pay for a new one and I told them now way. I am selling my phone probably but I want it to be perfect for the buyer and it is not. I truly believe the 4th device I got still has some mic issues or proximity issues. Shipped it back Fed Ex (aka they sent me labels ground cheapos) - Now seeing the new Motos being announced and everything is 5.5" screens I am kind of happy I left. The 5.2" is the sweet spot for me. Not saying I will not be back but I was not happy with the all around performance, design and quality of the T2. Tried the Kevlar and Soft grip and very slippery as well.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I"ve been fortunate to not have any problems with my DT2. The overall performance of my DT2 is incredibly fast and stable. No lag, everything seems to operate just fine. But lately, I've noticed the battery life is less than stellar. I can't seem to find out why my battery drains so fast. I have only played tunein radio for about an hour, made a few texts, asked Google a question, and ZERO phone calls. Took the fully charged DT2 off the charger at about 8 am and it is 11:52 am now. My battery is at 70 %.
I do however run PIA (private internet access) and I a, hoping that is what is killing it. Though it shows very little usage, I'm hoping that is it.
Oh yeah, last night I took some 4K video of my girl's bday for about 6 minutes and my phone was on FIRE!!! Holy cow that thing got hot fast! Guess I'll stick to regular HD video since I don't have a 4K player anyway.
I do not blame you to.
I sold my MXF couple days ago and I'm receiving the SGS7 Edge tomorow!
Had to decide between the SGS7 Edge and the HTC 10.
I think I decided well to cancel my pre order of the HTC 10, because of their constantely delaying.
Users who own both they say sgs7 edge wins over the htc. display, camera, battery, etc.
Me too. I now own an awesome Nexus 6p, and I'm not looking back. Now the only problem is selling the damn thing. Droids are tough to sell since mostly phone geeks buy used phones and the Droid brand is now mostly reviled by them.
It also sucks that the used value for the turbo 2 is so low. These are $624 phones, and they're going for around $350. Why??
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This is my first Droid. Love the styling, love the performance, but they just cracked the bootloader on the Note4, so Ill probably go back to that.
I just pick up another set on eBay for 300.
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The speakerphone just plain sucks on the dt2. I really can't wait to get rid of this phone. I can't wait to check out the htc nexus. Really digging the htc 10.
Anyone think we will get this for our Moto 360's? I hope so.
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I dont think we are http://www.phonedog.com/2016/06/11/moto-360-1st-gen-wont-get-android-wear-20-update
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Is any dev gonna try to port it?
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Is any dev gonna try to port it?
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Gosh, I hope so. I seriously doubt Android Wear 2 is simply too strenuous on the processors to not be ported. I understand the TI processor in it is rather proprietary and no other Wear devices use it, but I can't believe Wear 2 would warrant new hardware.
I don't think I'll be able to buy another moto product again. I just don't trust them anymore to do things right. I own a nexus 6 and that has a screen flicker when charging, red tint on low brightness, and a speaker that crackles on low battery. I'm on my second moto 360 due to a cracked back (seriously glass back? Are you kidding me?) and the one I have now has a cracked back too after a few months. The first one was due to my wrist movements cracking it, and the second due to the metal band hitting the glass back. I hate apple products just because they are overpriced, have terrible batteries, and the screen is designed to break when dropped. HOWEVER, Apple is #1 at supporting their products until the very end with software updates and they never have an issue that isn't caused by user error (even tho the media says the bend on iphones is an issue, that only happens to the stupid people who throw their phones and sit their fat rear end on them constantly).
Hopefully one of you awesome developers out there ports it over for us. Otherwise I think I may be done with smart watches for a while. The only good looking one is the huawei watch but its too expensive and doesn't have 4g. The lg watch urbane has an LTE model... But it is ugly.
Oh android makers and their obcession with shooting themselves in the foot...
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I don't think I'll be able to buy another moto product again. I just don't trust them anymore to do things right. I own a nexus 6 and that has a screen flicker when charging, red tint on low brightness, and a speaker that crackles on low battery. I'm on my second moto 360 due to a cracked back (seriously glass back? Are you kidding me?) and the one I have now has a cracked back too after a few months. The first one was due to my wrist movements cracking it, and the second due to the metal band hitting the glass back. I hate apple products just because they are overpriced, have terrible batteries, and the screen is designed to break when dropped. HOWEVER, Apple is #1 at supporting their products until the very end with software updates and they never have an issue that isn't caused by user error (even tho the media says the bend on iphones is an issue, that only happens to the stupid people who throw their phones and sit their fat rear end on them constantly).
Hopefully one of you awesome developers out there ports it over for us. Otherwise I think I may be done with smart watches for a while. The only good looking one is the huawei watch but its too expensive and doesn't have 4g. The lg watch urbane has an LTE model... But it is ugly.
Oh android makers and their obcession with shooting themselves in the foot...
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Moto support comes 2nd place in the worst support after Apple, now that lenovo owns Motorola. Things just went from bad to worse
"Motorola has confirmed that the original Moto 360 will not be receiving the Android Wear 2.0 update"
http://m.androidcentral.com/original-moto-360-will-not-receive-android-wear-20-update
As mentioned before; hopefully some developer will fix this anyway.
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Moto support comes 2nd place in the worst support after Apple, now that lenovo owns Motorola. Things just went from bad to worse
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I would typically rip on Samsung and their lack of updates, but I really can't because their only android wear watch got the 1.5 update and they don't even support android wear anymore!
So does anyone have any plans to port 2.0 over?
I would be eternally grateful.
That's the support early adopters get from Motorola... none. Us users who had to go through cracked backplates, screen burns, software glitches and patches will not get further official support. Team Moto -10 points.
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So does anyone have any plans to port 2.0 over?
I would be eternally grateful.
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I second that! a ported ROM would be the dream, and the maker will be the king of Moto 360 fans!
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I second that! a ported ROM would be the dream, and the maker will be the king of Moto 360 fans!
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is not that easy.
main problem is that you would need to flash it through the factory cable (I think 2% moto 360 users have one)
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
G watch is more likely going to have a porting, it has standard s400 SoC.
fortunately I never sold my g watch, battery and performance is much better than moto 360.....
go on guys, buy next one or wait for qualcom 2100 chips for wearables
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is not that easy.
main problem is that you would need to flash it through the factory cable (I think 2% moto 360 users have one)
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
G watch is more likely going to have a porting, it has standard s400 SoC.
fortunately I never sold my g watch, battery and performance is much better than moto 360.....
go on guys, buy next one or wait for qualcom 2100 chips for wearables
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The cable is not that big of an issue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3a2fdTy_6A
Howeve, what you described makes it sound really difficult. Still, if there's a will there is a way!
jihadinhorocks said:
The cable is not that big of an issue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3a2fdTy_6A
Howeve, what you described makes it sound really difficult. Still, if there's a will there is a way!
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yeah, ok, I already got myself informed about it, but not anyone can make such connector, and even if he can, is so risky.....
throcker said:
is not that easy.
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
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Only an issue if Wear 2.0 requires new kernel features. As long as the changes are only in userland, the specific SoC is not that big a deal.
Adding my voice to the choir, happy to contribute towards some smart Moto 360 hacker doing the port when the time comes.
I get that I can continue to use the watch with old firmware, but then I'd have different UI's on my different watches and it would get very confusing. I just want latest Wear on all of them. These ultra-short support cycles go against the grain especially for watches. Big thumbs down to Moto/Google on this one.
mbecroft said:
Only an issue if Wear 2.0 requires new kernel features. As long as the changes are only in userland, the specific SoC is not that big a deal.
Adding my voice to the choir, happy to contribute towards some smart Moto 360 hacker doing the port when the time comes.
I get that I can continue to use the watch with old firmware, but then I'd have different UI's on my different watches and it would get very confusing. I just want latest Wear on all of them. These ultra-short support cycles go against the grain especially for watches. Big thumbs down to Moto/Google on this one.
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I wouldn't say it's short, it just hit the 2 years standard support. it's time to drop. maybe we bought it recently and we're disappointed (I bought it 6 months ago. and I felt a 6 month support) but is definitely not short
What's going to be the best watch for Pixel thinking about going with the Galaxy watch but I don't know how well they woul work together
The Galaxy watch works best with a Samsung phone user especially if they are actually using Samsung software. It's got great multiple day battery life, doesn't look cheap.
Ticwatch Pro has it's secondary display so it can go into it's super low power mode. It does very little in that mode and I didn't find it of any use but if your itinerary includes setting off on a 10 day camping trip with 20% watch battery remaining having forgot to charge it's the only smart watch that will still be lit up after that ten days. It does have legitimate all of a long day power though which with Android is really the best you can hope for unless you get the Galaxy watch. Overall this watch is my preferred watch over the 2 I've mentioned so far and the next one.
Fossil sport gives you the latest but still old Wear OS processor. It doesn't help in any way I could discern with performance or battery life. Comes in two sizes but only the bezel gets bigger, screen remains the same. I liked this one but nothing much about it stands out.
So those are the ones I've tried recently. I'd go Ticwatch Pro if choosing among them. The Galaxy is the best hardware hands down but you have a very limited app selection and it works best with Samsung phones which I don't have right now. I don't have much bad to say about the Fossil but don't have much good to say about it either. It lacks the Ticwatch party trick and in my use had slightly worse battery life.
jmcandrews83 said:
What's going to be the best watch for Pixel thinking about going with the Galaxy watch but I don't know how well they woul work together
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Best watch is the Samsung Galaxy! It will work perfect! I have one.
I am thinking about getting 3a XL. I do love my Nexus 6, but 3a, might be faster.
As much as I prefer wear OS over tizen, I will say that my Galaxy S3 classic works pretty well. The battery life is decent, having Samsung pay is nice without bogging down my phone software, and app support has gotten better. If it weren't for the abysmal battery life and decent selections for decent wear OS devices, I would be on one in a heartbeat. I had the ZTE quartz from T-Mobile, which was actually a pretty great watch for the price, but we all know what happened with ZTE and software updates are non-existent sadly, and it seems 3rd party development has halted entirely.
Tizen is really the only decent software offering right now, considering the hardware it runs on. Hopefully, Google can convince oems to make more decent wear OS devices, but I'm not holding my breath for it, sadly.
Galaxy watch has better battery life over s3. Over anything and is the most water proof.
I got lucky. Almost bought an S3. SO glad I didn't!
Been using my huawei smartwatch2 with 3axl. No issues yet and all notifications seem to be working fine
Dixon Butz said:
Best watch is the Samsung Galaxy! It will work perfect! I have one.
I am thinking about getting 3a XL. I do love my Nexus 6, but 3a, might be faster.
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make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
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make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
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I will most likely get one very soon. It's in my cart. Still no TWRP. Unicorn ROM is available. Can be rooted. The thing that scares me is the bad reviews on the screen. Dimmer than a regular Pixel and not very good image quality some say.
Android Q beta available for all Pixel devices.
Nasty bug in Q for Samsung Galaxy watch plugin though.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/135123639
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I will most likely get one very soon. It's in my cart. Still no TWRP. Unicorn ROM is available. Can be rooted. The thing that scares me is the bad reviews on the screen. Dimmer than a regular Pixel and not very good image quality some say.
Android Q beta available for all Pixel devices.
Nasty bug in Q for Samsung Galaxy watch plugin though.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/135123639
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twrp is being worked on and should be released unofficially soon(look in the twrp thread)
the screen is fine tbh and honestly until twrp is out im sticking to rooted stock as its the easiest to deal with, i personally dont have any issues with the screen, its plenty bright outside in direct sunlight and the thing is color calibrated from the factory also image quality meaning pictures? if so then it's literally the same camera module as the pixel 3/xl just without that image processor so snapchat can't use hdr+ enhanced but the google camera can still so its really a non issue
just go to a tmobile store or verizon store or best buy and check the phone out(assuming you are in the states) before buying it yourself, frankly im getting tired of seeing notches and pin holes in displays so i mainly got the 3a xl just because it didnt have those and the fact that its a google phone(so i know its gonna be a decent buy regardless)
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make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
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Snagged a new 3aXL 400 us beans! No tax! FS!
Will be in hand tomorrow Monday the 24th
What a great ****ing phone! HUGE upgrade over Nexus 6. Lovve it!! Display is great!!