I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance
tallica2002 said:
I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance
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Well that depends on how you blocked it in the first place. But if you do the update right NOW, you WILL lose root and you can just assume you'll never get it back. If you want to wait a little, then you won't lose root.
tallica2002 said:
I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance
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You can change your firmware without re-enabling updates, unless you blocked it at a host file level or like @rbox said, sit tight for a few days/weeks.
roligov said:
You can change your firmware without re-enabling updates, unless you blocked it at a host file level or like @rbox said, sit tight for a few days/weeks.
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Thanks!
blocked ota
PLAGWEZ said:
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I blocked it with rootjunky's firmware restore tool. I am not wanting to update the firmware I am wanting to downgrade the firmware.
tallica2002 said:
I blocked it with rootjunky's firmware restore tool. I am not wanting to update the firmware I am wanting to downgrade the firmware.
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Upgrading or Downgrading, doesn't make a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796067
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roligov said:
Upgrading or Downgrading, doesn't make a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796067
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yes I have tried all of that and keep getting error no space left on device when I have like 4 gb left I figured it was because I blocked the updates any ideas?
No it's not because the updates are block, it's probably because you out of space in your cache partition. ADB shell to the box and run
ll /cache
If you have any bin files, delete them.
roligov said:
No it's not because the updates are block, it's probably because you out of space in your cache partition. ADB shell to the box and run
ll /cache/recovery
If you have any bin files, delete them.
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Hmmm... I wonder if filling the cache partition with junk is another effective way to block updates.
AFTVnews.com said:
Hmmm... I wonder if filling the cache partition with junk is another effective way to block updates.
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Well you need root to write to /cache.
rbox said:
Well you need root to write to /cache.
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Yeah, I just meant as an alternative to disabling the update package. For example, even though I don't want to install updates on my primary Fire TV, I still want to know when a new update is available. That's why I opt to block via my router instead of disabling the update package. Someone with a similar desire to know when an update is available without the ability to block via their router could fill their cache partition instead of disabling the update package.
I'm just thinking outloud here. I doubt there are many, if any, who would choose to block that way.
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Yeah, I just meant as an alternative to disabling the update package. For example, even though I don't want to install updates on my primary Fire TV, I still want to know when a new update is available. That's why I opt to block via my router instead of disabling the update package. Someone with a similar desire to know when an update is available without the ability to block via their router could fill their cache partition instead of disabling the update package.
I'm just thinking outloud here. I doubt there are many, if any, who would choose to block that way.
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And of course if anyone was ever able to figure out how to write to /cache without root, we'd be able to downgrade without root. But I spent a few days researching it and came up with nothing. You either need to have your package in /system or signed with the platform key, neither of which we can do without root to begin with.
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I want to know if I will forever lose the ability to install stock updates once I root my device. Can I "unroot" it in the future to seamlessly install stock updates? I don't want to mess with this too much as I want to rely on it for notes.
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
sputnik767 said:
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
litetaker said:
If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
sputnik767 said:
Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
litetaker said:
Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
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I don't have an answer for you unfortunately as my use of s note is very basic. I hope someone else can answer your questions.
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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litetaker said:
I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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What did you do?
CASz said:
Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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I don't know what the ToolKit does or what else you used it to do or what else you did with the system after rooting, but just plain root does not alter the system. Even apps like Adfree that modify the hosts file don't cause the system to be altered. If you remove system APKs though, that will do it. Like I said, I am still rooted despite all of the updates that I received. And I do not temp unroot prior to searching for updates, I temp unroot once the update is already downloaded.
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What did you do?
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My concern was how to obtain a custom background for the notes in S-note. I did it using the "change background" feature but I did so with the "memo" template. And the memo template doesn't have certain features like inserting images, audio memo etc. Given that I am new to Samsung and touchwiz I was unaware about this. I fixed this "problem" by putting my custom background on one of the other templates...
The only other thing I need root for is for removing Ads. BUT, thankfully there is the "Adblockplus" android app on their website that allows me to do this WITHOUT root! :highfive: On Android, nothing is impossible!
Unroot
I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
thx
athosk said:
I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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When that happened to me, I couldn't even use Kies to recover so I used the ToolKit and triangle away to get a stock ROM on it.
I have the same problem. As far as I know I've only done a standard root, but OTA says the device has been modified and Kies says my firmware version doesn't support upgrading. Obviously something has modified something
As I'm in Australia we probably won't get a 4.2.2 upgrade anyway so at the moment I wouldn't have anything to upgrade to even if I could...
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CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you first use supersu option to unroot you can can get ota. Been there done that.
There is a post on this forum somewhere. Can't remember where, but it can be done if you follow the instruction in the post.
Do a search of the forums to find it. It's there!
Hello!
I have just recieved my Fire TV (not plugged in yet).
My goal is XBMC.
I want to know what is the correct order to achieve root, xbmc with maximum stability...
I have collected a mass of guides with everything I need, but I do not know in what order I should do them...
Should I block updates first (or at all)?
Should I first update it to the latest FW?
When should I root? when should I sideload APKs and stuff...
Thanks in advance! :laugh:
Doesn't really make a difference. But follow this if you want:
1. Update first to the latest firmware (before you get too used to the old UI)
2. Update remote if it's available.
3. Then block updates.
4. Then root
5. Sideload all your apps.
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roligov said:
Doesn't really make a difference. But follow this if you want:
1. Update first to the latest firmware (before you get too used to the old UI)
2. Update remote if it's available.
3. Then block updates.
4. Then root
5. Sideload all your apps.
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Thanks alot
In the future (after I block updates) - is there a reason to not update again? Do I lose root each update?
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Gaiosan said:
Thanks alot
In the future (after I block updates) - is there a reason to not update again? Do I lose root each update?
Thanks
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Yes, you lose root with each update. The reason to not update is to keep root since we don't know if the next update will block the current rooting exploit and prevent rooting.
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
haofeng93 said:
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
haofeng93 said:
Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
haofeng93 said:
Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
buhohitr said:
Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Yeah, I did read the instructions. It was just a moment of stupidity on my behalf, completely forgot I'd frozen the stock keyboard. I'll leave a little longer and then reboot.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
haofeng93 said:
Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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You need to remove the SuperSu app by go to playstore search for Supersu then you should see the uninstall option. The OTA failed probably because it detected that you have modified the system. You need to think what you did to your system and revert back before try again. I would just use towelroot app and reroot then unfreeze any frozen apps, then uninstall then try again. If you can't remembered what you did and the OTA stills failing, then the next step is use Odin and flash factory firmware either 4.3 or 4.4. Remember to read my instructions before and ask if in doubt before taken any action. After you re-root, make sure you use Titanium to run a full backup of all your userapps. if you don't want to be bother, then just use Odin to flash either 4.3 or 4.4 but you need to re setup and re-download all your apps.
I've gotten my phone bricked in the last two ota updates 4.6.6 & 4.6.3. Is there anyway to block the phone from automatically downloading and installing said future updates?
If you're rooted, backup, then go to ./system/app/ and delete otaverifier.apk
Will any problems come up later on due to this?
The phone won't be able to check for OTA updates, and, of course, it'll also be unable to retrieve them.
I Tried And its not working any other method?
xaamaa said:
I Tried And its not working any other method?
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These apps need to be deactivated to block updates:
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Amazon Device Client
DCP Platform Contracts
And two different ones, both called "System Update"
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I bootloader unlocked/rooted this phone so I could uninstall Sprint's bloatware.
It seems without replacing the ROM I can't get rid of the bloat.
Titantium backup says 'failed to locate apk' when I try to uninstall.
I could pay the $5 to freeze them but I should be able to remove the apps.
When I get the security update from Moto it downloads but won't install.
It seems I'm getting the double whammy.
Do I have to unroot or hide something via magisk to get the security updates to work?
Can anyone suggest how to remove the bloat without replacing the ROM?
lip008 said:
I bootloader unlocked/rooted this phone so I could uninstall Sprint's bloatware.
It seems without replacing the ROM I can't get rid of the bloat.
Titantium backup says 'failed to locate apk' when I try to uninstall.
I could pay the $5 to freeze them but I should be able to remove the apps.
When I get the security update from Moto it downloads but won't install.
It seems I'm getting the double whammy.
Do I have to unroot or hide something via magisk to get the security updates to work?
Can anyone suggest how to remove the bloat without replacing the ROM?
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Searched 'debloat' in our forum and found this.
Most things have been answered, just search a little, it's helps keep these forums cleaner and more efficient.
I will give that a try but can anyone comment about the updates?
Do I have to unroot or lock the bootloader to get Lenovo's security updates?
lip008 said:
I will give that a try but can anyone comment about the updates?
Do I have to unroot or lock the bootloader to get Lenovo's security updates?
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Unroot, yes. Relock, no. You need to flash all back to complete stock with no edits to any partitions to get updates. TWRP mounts system so once you do any zip install, the hash of system or other partitions changes and the hash check during update will fail.
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Unroot, yes. Relock, no. You need to flash all back to complete stock with no edits to any partitions to get updates. TWRP mounts system so once you do any zip install, the hash of system or other partitions changes and the hash check during update will fail.
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Let me ask one last question...lol. Anyway to disable the popup about getting the new device updates since I can't get it with the device rooted?
lip008 said:
Let me ask one last question...lol. Anyway to disable the popup about getting the new device updates since I can't get it with the device rooted?
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It would be best to flash all then take the update and reboot after. If you must keep your data and not risk losing any, then your best bet is to "disable" or freeze updater.