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So yea...as much as I know my desire's motherboard needs replacement...And I dont have warranty. Is there any way to fix it without changeing whole motherboard?
You provide us no information at all about what's wrong with your device.
What do you want to do with it? Solder stuff?
There is a 100% chance that you will destroy your phone when you open it and mess around with the subminiaturized highly vulnerable microelectronics.
There's something called insurance.
Swyped...
hypophysis said:
You provide us no information at all about what's wrong with your device.
What do you want to do with it? Solder stuff?
There is a 100% chance that you will destroy your phone when you open it and mess around with the subminiaturized highly vulnerable microelectronics.
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It restarts,boot loop i think it's called. So I cant afford new motherboard so could I take my phone to some1 that knows what he's doing and could he fix it?
LordRyver said:
It restarts,boot loop i think it's called. So I cant afford new motherboard so could I take my phone to some1 that knows what he's doing and could he fix it?
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Maybe the forum can help you
For this we need some more information:
1. Do you have the original HTC Sense ROM?
1a. If YES skip the points 2 - 5 and continue with 6.
2. If NO: which ROM you have installed?
3. Did you change the Radio ROM?
4. Have you unrooted your phone?
5. Are you S-Off / changed Hboot (partition table)
6. Do you use the original SD-Card?
7. Since your reboots started: have you installed any software just before?
8. Which program(s)
If you can answer these question we can help you - I don't think (hope) your motherboard is dead. Often there are simple solution to fix a "dead" phone
MonacoHias said:
Maybe the forum can help you
For this we need some more information:
1. Do you have the original HTC Sense ROM?
1a. If YES skip the points 2 - 5 and continue with 6.
2. If NO: which ROM you have installed?
3. Did you change the Radio ROM?
4. Have you unrooted your phone?
5. Are you S-Off / changed Hboot (partition table)
6. Do you use the original SD-Card?
7. Since your reboots started: have you installed any software just before?
8. Which program(s)
If you can answer these question we can help you - I don't think (hope) your motherboard is dead. Often there are simple solution to fix a "dead" phone
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1. I had,but it used to turn off and get into boot loop while playing games like GRave defense. Never happened while playing shoot bubbules.
2. DevNull. First was dev,then leedroid,now back to dev. I keep him in sd card in case my phone wont turn on. Sometimes it restarts in middle of movie so I left him 2 times until morning and it first time turned on and second time didnt,again started to restart. Same with reflashing roms. Sometimes helps,sometimes no.
3.Yes.Radio_32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08
4.Yes. I had hboot 0.83 or 0.93 and I used AlpharevX and then unrevoked.
5.Yes.
6.I dont know, I got it when I bought phone. (it was used when I bought it.)
7.Hm......Well...I dont think so...when I bought it, I turned phone off and after um... about 1 h I tryed turn it on and it started restarting. Then after some time turened on again.
And btw now it sometimes starts restarting not even hot.
So your problem is random reboots? or does your device not start up at all?
If the problem is just a bootloop, you won't need to replace the motherboard. You just need to flash the correct and working software.
mortenmhp said:
So your problem is random reboots? or does your device not start up at all?
If the problem is just a bootloop, you won't need to replace the motherboard. You just need to flash the correct and working software.
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But that used to happened with original rom too...un...one guy said that bootloop is because motherboard is faulty. Now I just watched whole movie. And it was ok. But I tink if I would use market or opera it would restart. But im not sure. Sometimes it dosnt restart. And if I would flash all correct software my phone would turn on quicker?
oh god...
Don't answer my question with the word but. It's NOT an answer. So lets take the question again and this time do only reply to the question:
Is you problem random reboots or a bootloop?
Those 2 are NOT the same, while random reboots is exactly what the name implies a bootloop implies that your phone is unable to enter the android system due to a failure on startup.
So please in order for anyone to help you, you must make it very clear what you problem is, as otherwise we cannot tell you what to do.
Everything you have told up until now is that you have some problem(you use bootloop and random reboot equally) and that you might or might not know that it happens when running some specific apps.
mortenmhp said:
oh god...
Don't answer my question with the word but. It's NOT an answer. So lets take the question again and this time do only reply to the question:
Is you problem random reboots or a bootloop?
Those 2 are NOT the same, while random reboots is exactly what the name implies a bootloop implies that your phone is unable to enter the android system due to a failure on startup.
So please in order for anyone to help you, you must make it very clear what you problem is, as otherwise we cannot tell you what to do.
Everything you have told up until now is that you have some problem(you use bootloop and random reboot equally) and that you might or might not know that it happens when running some specific apps.
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Sorry. By bootloop I mean my phone restarts and then just starts viberating and just stays in white htc logo screen. But after some time I can enter android system. This happanes when I do something with my phone.
If I may throw 2 cents in...
I do not know if this will be the fix for you, but if I had this issue, the first thing I would do is boot the phone up and wait until it loads properly (I gather it loads sometimes but not others, which is why you watched a movie??), make a Titanium backup of everything, then Nandroid backup.
Next, do full wipe
1 Factory reset
2 (in Mounts/Storage) Format Dalvic/data/sdext/system
3 (in Advanced) Wipe Dalvic cache.
Now reflash your ROM and restore Titanium.
Might all sound like basic stuff, but any time I have had issues with bootloops or FCs or whatever, it's usually because I didn't wipe properly. Now I always wipe everything with new ROMs and never have an issue.
If this doesn't help, you may commence panicking I'M KIDDING!!
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If I may throw 2 cents in...
I do not know if this will be the fix for you, but if I had this issue, the first thing I would do is boot the phone up and wait until it loads properly (I gather it loads sometimes but not others, which is why you watched a movie??), make a Titanium backup of everything, then Nandroid backup.
Next, do full wipe
1 Factory reset
2 (in Mounts/Storage) Format Dalvic/data/sdext/system
3 (in Advanced) Wipe Dalvic cache.
Now reflash your ROM and restore Titanium.
Might all sound like basic stuff, but any time I have had issues with bootloops or FCs or whatever, it's usually because I didn't wipe properly. Now I always wipe everything with new ROMs and never have an issue.
If this doesn't help, you may commence panicking I'M KIDDING!!
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Did that already...first time all was the same,but now looks kinnda better. If it wont go to restarting screen while chagring i'll be happy...After doing factory reset it started to move things from pc to sd very slowly.
777ace said:
If I may throw 2 cents in...
I do not know if this will be the fix for you, but if I had this issue, the first thing I would do is boot the phone up and wait until it loads properly (I gather it loads sometimes but not others, which is why you watched a movie??), make a Titanium backup of everything, then Nandroid backup.
Next, do full wipe
1 Factory reset
2 (in Mounts/Storage) Format Dalvic/data/sdext/system
3 (in Advanced) Wipe Dalvic cache.
Now reflash your ROM and restore Titanium.
Might all sound like basic stuff, but any time I have had issues with bootloops or FCs or whatever, it's usually because I didn't wipe properly. Now I always wipe everything with new ROMs and never have an issue.
If this doesn't help, you may commence panicking I'M KIDDING!!
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Hello LordRyve,
follow the great description from 777ace , these are the steps which should bring your Desire back.
I only would not restore all the programs via Titanium Backup after your fresh install. The reason is that there might be a "bad" program you have installed before. Just restore a program, check if system runs without problems, then restore the next and so on.
But NEVER restore system apps via Titanium backup - this mostly WILL mess up your system!
And before flashing devnull ROM download it again and check the MD5SUM, just to be sure your downloaded ROM is ok.
Good luck
MonacoHias said:
Hello LordRyve,
follow the great description from 777ace , these are the steps which should bring your Desire back.
I only would not restore all the programs via Titanium Backup after your fresh install. The reason is that there might be a "bad" program you have installed before. Just restore a program, check if system runs without problems, then restore the next and so on.
But NEVER restore system apps via Titanium backup - this mostly WILL mess up your system!
And before flashing devnull ROM download it again and check the MD5SUM, just to be sure your downloaded ROM is ok.
Good luck
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Well now it runs rll great And I didn't do anything different. It restarted while charging but at about 98% it was cold again and I succesufly turened it on with first try. If something will go wrong i'll try do 777ace guide. Now I would like to ask...what to do that files would get transefered from my pc to sd faster? Because when my battery is not full it starts charging and overheating and restarting. Also isnt overheating and restarting caused by bad motherboard?
MonacoHias said:
Hello LordRyve,
follow the great description from 777ace , these are the steps which should bring your Desire back.
I only would not restore all the programs via Titanium Backup after your fresh install. The reason is that there might be a "bad" program you have installed before. Just restore a program, check if system runs without problems, then restore the next and so on.
But NEVER restore system apps via Titanium backup - this mostly WILL mess up your system!
And before flashing devnull ROM download it again and check the MD5SUM, just to be sure your downloaded ROM is ok.
Good luck
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Also if there is bad app,could I try downloading it again after restoring with titanium?
LordRyver said:
Also if there is bad app,could I try downloading it again after restoring with titanium?
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Sure you can.
With a bad app I ment that an app can mess up your system (not a corrupted program file).
For example task killers I would name "bad" apps as they are useless in current ROM and maybe could things worse.
A very important tip at the end: perform Nandroid backups on a regular basis - so you can allways come back to a working system.
LordRyver said:
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Now I would like to ask...what to do that files would get transefered from my pc to sd faster? Because when my battery is not full it starts charging and overheating and restarting. Also isnt overheating and restarting caused by bad motherboard?
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Do you use Windows or Linux? For me file transfer on Linux is much slower compared to Windows. Sometimes it helps to switch to another USB port on your PC.
Does your Desire also restarts when you use the power supply (charging not via PC)?
MonacoHias said:
Do you use Windows or Linux? For me file transfer on Linux is much slower compared to Windows. Sometimes it helps to switch to another USB port on your PC.
Does your Desire also restarts when you use the power supply (charging not via PC)?
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Windows. Yes. It gets overheat. And switching to another USB port didn't helped. But I noticed that usb cable's part that puts into pc was a bit hot.
MonacoHias said:
Sure you can.
With a bad app I ment that an app can mess up your system (not a corrupted program file).
For example task killers I would name "bad" apps as they are useless in current ROM and maybe could things worse.
A very important tip at the end: perform Nandroid backups on a regular basis - so you can allways come back to a working system.
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hm...I think problems start when I install classic ghost radar
Ok...can some1 explain me. my phone started to restart while moving movie from pc to sd. Now it's cold. But when I turn it on, it loads and after 1 sec in android system it starts restarting again. why?
I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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Hello.
Your gold card isn't related to the phone. So yes you can still make a gold card or use one of your friends phone (i don't know for sure if it has to be the same model, but probably) and make one. The gold card is unique per SD Card.
You can rest assured though, cause until you want to go back to stock with no ROOT or S-OFF, it will pass a long time, and maybe you'll change your mind. Personally I was like you, scared that maybe I must go back to warranty if I get something wrong. But the truth is starting to arise: I'll never need to go to warranty If I don't do something stupid to my phone or my phone doesn't have any motherboard faults. First is easy to accomplish with a lot of reading before doing something. Almost everything is replaceable (Flashing bad ROM, kernel, recovery, etc.), but flashing Radio's and HBOOT's ain't. If you did something/something happened (USB Cable Disconnect, Pull The battery out etc.) when trying to flash these, then it is permanently bricked(no comebacks). I don't want to scare you, but you should pay a lot of attention when flashing these. The second it depends on the phone itself.
Hope that helped.
Thanks for your help
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
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Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
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Hi.
Yep, I've heard about this new problem, since google allowed downloads of larger files from Market. Since some custom HBOOTS or even Stock HBOOK have the cache partition smaller than the file you are trying to download it won't be possible to save it.
You should search for a script that moves Dalvik-cache to SD or SD EXT. If the developer of the ROM hasn't made this than you have to search for (don't know if there is such script) it or try to ask it directly in the ROM forum. You should be able to get more help there.
Hey all,
First off, apologies if there's another thread on this. I searched, didn't find anything that relates.
Basically, since the Sense 4.1 update, which I did via RUU, I've had 2 issues.
The first is that, around once per day, a message appears telling me com.google.gapps has force closed. I don't know why, I don't know how to fix it. I don't know if it's related to problem #2.
Problem 2 is worse. Whenever my One X is connected to a computer (and I've tried multiple, Mac and PC) it reboots before appearing as a mounted volume. I don't know why.
I expect the primary solution offered will be to wipe the phone and start again. However, I've accumulated a lot of save games and other data I don't want to lose, and have no known way of backing up the phone, including app data. I'm open to suggestions on that one.
The major issue there would be, if I back up to phone memory, how do I get it off phone memory before I wipe it?
Last time, I backed up using MyBackup Pro. However, I found it did not restore app data correctly, and am suspicious that the restore of data via MyBackup is responsible for some of the problems I am having on my relatively fresh 4.0.4 install.
As stated, I am on Sense 4.1/ Android 4.0.4. I am also unrooted. My main computer is a Mac, although I can virtualise Windows (XP) if necessary.
All suggestions welcome!
Here is a guide to backup your apps & data using adb, so you can restore them after you do the wipe. I haven't tested it myself, so I suggest you first try to backup an app (one you don't care very much about losing the data), uninstall it and restore the backup, to see if it does the job. And if everything works fine, do a full backup, wipe the storage and restore your backup. I'd appreciate if you came back and reported how it all went
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eyosen said:
Simply use titanium backup. You can then restore apps and data after a wipe.
Don't format your sdcard. Wiping the phone won't touch sdcard either.
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Have you even read the thread? The guy is unrooted, so he can't use TB, and wants to do a full wipe, Phone Storage included.
Read everything but last paragraph. You're right. Sorry for misleading.
There is another guide available here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30471180
See backing up section for a shorter version of asp2010's link.
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Hey all,
Thanks for the help. I tried adb backup before the RUU, and it always hung at a particular point (can't remember where.)
I googled the problem, and it seemed I wasn't the only one. This made me concerned about the integrity of the adb backup, and thus worried about relying on it. Perhaps I should do it tomorrow and give it plenty of time... I'll let you know how it goes
Cheers again!
Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.
jakichan77 said:
Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.
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IIRC there's a virtual SD card where certain things dont get wiped (I think titanium backup accesses this)
crazyg0od33 said:
IIRC there's a virtual SD card where certain things dont get wiped (I think titanium backup accesses this)
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Do you happen to know of it's accessible via computer or a file manager app? (or custom recoveries?)
jakichan77 said:
Do you happen to know of it's accessible via computer or a file manager app? (or custom recoveries?)
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Its nothing different from dealing with a standard SD card. When you wipe you're wiping data (not internal storage but app data) cache and possibly dalvik and system. None if which will end up wiping your saved files on SD card unless you select wipe internal storage. Just to note HTC or Verizon blocked us from unlocking bootkoaders right now so no go on that except for a few that did it day one.
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jakichan77 said:
Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.
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Recoveries differentiate between internal storage and the virtual "/sdcard", so that won't be wiped.
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just don't accidentally hit erase internal like I did!
you'll be stuck in recovery/bootloader with nothing to flash, no nandroids nothing
took forever to fix my horrible mistake.
been trying like hell to find an easy way to switch the menu order in TWRP. there is no reason why the internal wipe is right above system wipe.
alphabetical or not, it's set up for failure.
Learn from my misfortune!
eventually I was able to adb devices in fastboot to and it read my device, and eventually was able to get the phone mounted in recovery to adb push a rom.zip to flash.
nothing fun!
andybones said:
there is no reason why the internal wipe is right above system wipe.
alphabetical or not, it's set up for failure.
Learn from my misfortune!
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I cannot possible count the amount of times i hit that button and was half a swipe away from erasing my internal on my S3... The flow goes against us all.
Thanks guys, swayed my opinion toward the One in the right direction. I'll be sure to watch the HTC one development until an S-OFF method becomes available. I think we remember the Rezounds S-OFF o.0
Where there's a will there's a way. I'll also try not to lose my data on the internal SD card, probably back up my photos every so often. Thanks again.
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Thanks guys, swayed my opinion toward the One in the right direction. I'll be sure to watch the HTC one development until an S-OFF method becomes available. I think we remember the Rezounds S-OFF o.0
Where there's a will there's a way. I'll also try not to lose my data on the internal SD card, probably back up my photos every so often. Thanks again.
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Let's just hope we have the support we had for the Rezound, I truly hope someone will help bring this phone to life and give it the justice it deserves! S-OFF, and the DEV claims his much deserved bounty.
There is one wrinkle with these HTC internal sdcard partitions that people need to be aware of. If you select factory reset in bootloader rather than recovery, the whole thing can become corrupted so that you lose all your data. Everything. I've seen people do this and then panic thinking they've bricked their phones. It's fixable, but you have to reformat externally using your computer.
Wiping in recovery preserves the /sdcard partition. So as a general rule, wipe ONLY in recovery, NEVER in bootloader.
iElvis said:
There is one wrinkle with these HTC internal sdcard partitions that people need to be aware of. If you select factory reset in bootloader rather than recovery, the whole thing can become corrupted so that you lose all your data. Everything. I've seen people do this and then panic thinking they've bricked their phones. It's fixable, but you have to reformat externally using your computer.
Wiping in recovery preserves the /sdcard partition. So as a general rule, wipe ONLY in recovery, NEVER in bootloader.
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How would one then completely factory reset their phone like you were allowed to on the Rezound? Just install the default ROM in H-Boot? (Well, not ROM, but I think you get what I'm saying, the P9H-blah.zip).
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How would one then completely factory reset their phone like you were allowed to on the Rezound? Just install the default ROM in H-Boot? (Well, not ROM, but I think you get what I'm saying, the P9H-blah.zip).
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Factory reset inside Sense will wipe all user data.
Hi guys,
I've got a bit of a problem. My phone is stuck in a boot loop, which is a problem I've dealt with before, with help from these threads.
But this time I'm really stuck. I can't access the HBoot screen like I normally can, by holding down the volume up and power off buttons simultaneously.
I am using (racks memory) I think it's the War something mod of Cyanogen 7 I believe. I installed it 5 months ago and it's been working fine. This is not a new or recent install!
The phone does suffer from low memory issues a lot, as do all Wildfire S's. I have managed to get around that previously by moving apps to the SD card or linking to it or making user apps into system apps. I was in the middle of chatting on whatsapp when suddenly the phoned just blipped and died on me.. then it went into the boot loop. It's never happened before and my suspicion is that it ran out of memory or something.
I've tried removing the battery and leaving it out for some time, no luck. I've tried restarting without the SD card and Sim card. No luck. I've tried connecting it to my laptop... no luck. All the usual tricks just aren't working.
I have TiBu installed and my most recent back up was less than 4 weeks ago. I also did a Nandroid system backup a few months ago, so I should be able to restore ok, I just can't access the HBoot screen.
The other weird thing is, when I left the loading screen going round long enough, like in the time it would normally have booted.. suddenly the sound of my new emails popping up plays... and today, even tho it was on the load screen, it made clicking sounds like when I activate apps when my finger touched the screen. It's almost like the phone has started up as normal, but the load screen just won't go away and underneath it all is normal.
I've never had anything quite like this happen before and I've been without my phone for 3 days now, so came here in desperation for some inspiration! hehe.
I am probably going to buy a new HTC phone with a large system memory cos altho I dearly love my Wildfire S, the low memory has caused me nothing but problems since I first bought it, and I have wasted hours and hours on it, trying to get around the problems caused by it. But until then, I need to get my contacts and messages back and continue to use it for now. I would also ideally like to keep it going and give it to my sister perhaps who doesn't have a smart phone. She won't need as many apps as I do, so it would likely suit her, or maybe my Mum.
Any help anyone can give would be massively appreciated. Thanks guys!
Can't access HBoot!
Hey is anyone out there? I know lots of people get stuck in boot loops and there's a million threads of support for that, but this is different. I can't access the recovery system either. I have clockwork mod on it and normally you can get into that fine. Trying to find help on this problem is really tough cos I have to wade through all the noob threads for standard easy fix boot loops. If anyone could help me on this I'd be extremely grateful.
This might be all I can offer but two things come to mind. The first is you said volume up its volume down to get into the bootloader. The other is to search in the wildfire forum regarding whatsapp. Recently I read a post about a guy who's phone crashed from whatsapp. I don't remember how he recovered you have to search on it; unfortunately the second time he couldn't recover.
Good luck
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Thank you!
MiCeltic said:
This might be all I can offer but two things come to mind. The first is you said volume up its volume down to get into the bootloader. The other is to search in the wildfire forum regarding whatsapp. Recently I read a post about a guy who's phone crashed from whatsapp. I don't remember how he recovered you have to search on it; unfortunately the second time he couldn't recover.
Good luck
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Thank you for this... I'm willing to grasp at any thread at the moment. I did try the volume down option too but no dice there... but the whatsapp thread sounds promising, so I'm going to follow that up right now. It's after 4am and I've been sitting here working on this for hours and hours and at my wits end, so thank you! Fingers crossed!
Accessed HBoot!
Update:
Ok, I couldn't find the thread about whatsapp that was referred to above, but I have just tried accessing the recovery menu, using the volume down and power key, after first removing the sim card, but leaving the sd card in place. Suddenly that seemed to work! The menu came up!
I tried accessing it again with the sim card back in, and it refuses to come up again as before. So that at least is one issue resolved.
Now I'm having trouble mounting my SD card, which it says can't be mounted. I know the backups and recovery files are on the the SD card, but it just doesn't seem to see them there.
I wiped the dalvik cache in case that was causing any problems and it doesn't seem to have resolved this current issue so far. I'm going to keep trying other options as see how I get on, but I least wanted to share the solution to one of the problems my thread raised.
Further Update
I couldn't remember the name of my mod in the first post.. it was the WildChild mod.
After getting my phone into HBoot by removing the sim but keeping the SD card in, I found I was unable to mount the SD card. I researched this problem and some suggest the card may be corrupted.
I have checked the card on an external reader plugged into my PC and it read perfectly fine, and I managed to copy every bit of data on it across to the computer with ease. Others however found that after a reformat it eliminated any problems with mounting.. so that is what I am going to do and then try and restore the copy of the data I saved to the PC back onto the SD card.
Attempting now to reboot normally with the sim back in and the SD card removed this time produced a very desirable result. My phone started back up, albeit without the normal operating system. I was able to connect to wi-fi and my network and see a missed call voice mail message symbol. There are however no apps at all as yet and no background screen. I should mention that the phone did ask me to allow SuperUser permissions again.. I should also mention that I foolishly tried to Fix Permissions in CWM which then sat for a long time, eventually I removed the battery cos I thought it wasn't gonna do anything.. this is a big no no I now find out from the threads and I may have buggered it up a bit. I don't know.
My saga continues anyhow, and although I've not had much support on this, it might still be helpful for others to read and follow should whatsapp crashed their phone too and mess with their SD card somehow.
Another Update - Making Progress!
Next update on this...
I removed the SD card and put it in an external reader again on my PC.
Then I installed the free program Mini Tool Partition Wizard Home Edition and selected MiniTool Partion Wizard rather than the Power Data Recovery.
The Wizard allowed me to see the hidden partition on my drive. I understand now why it has always had trouble reading and writing to the SD card in the Ext section that was hidden. This should have been an EXT-2 or EXT-4 format partition I think, and mine is an EXT-3.
Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know much about these things and just learn as I go and by experiementing.
I had hoped to back up the hidden data in the partition but I was unsuccessful. Instead I found the Rebuild MBR (Master Boot Record) option and applied that to the entire SD card.
I then put it back in my phone, again without the Sim, and went into HBoot and recovery. I then went to my advanced back up and restore section and now the SD card is mountable and readable! I didn't have to wipe it or reformat!
I found my most recent up date which was the end of August... I wish I'd done them monthly, but oh well not too bad... and selected it and chose to Restore Boot.
Once it had completed I tried to reboot, but no dice. I put the sim card back in.. still didn't work... BUT I was now able to get into recovery again, this time without removing the Sim!
So inching along slowly here with this but making progress.
Next I plan to restore boot again, this time with the Sim card in.. and try and restart.. if that fails, I will go back into advanced recovery and try to also Restore System, and lastly restore SD-ext and see if each of those options repairs whatever damage that stupid Whatsapp did to my phone! I hope the little solution to various problems I've had are of some use to someone else here. Now wish me luck!
Wow, you were busy last night while most of the western world slept . I'm guessing if I posted at 11:10 PM and you said it was 4:00 AM, that your in the London timeline. I thought a little bit more, later, and I think that person's post I read fixed his phone by eventually getting into recovery and restoring, which as I remember worked that one time, until he reinstalled and used Whatsapp again some time later (it was at the insistence of a girl that used it). Whatsapp has, like 300 million users, but it does seem to give some people serious problems, and that's why I think most people are hesitant to try and help. They don't want to make things worse, since there are those instances of totally bricking a phone...but as long as a person can get into recovery, it's not bricked!
Interesting...I have done the, "fix mbr" in PCs many times, but I think you've taken it to new levels using it in phones! At least I don't remember reading anything much about someone doing it (in phones) before and it's brilliant, IMHO. You really did a great job sharing what you've done and I hope you get it fixed. I clicked a, "Thanks" for a good post follow up.
Insert standard disclaimer here: I'm not telling you to do anything, or what will or won't work, but sooner or later you're gonna have to restore that backup, but it's your choice on what to do; and, it sure seems like you know what you're doing, especially having made a backup to work from. I can appreciate the way you've gone piece by piece in your restore efforts to try and find where the problem occurred. The nice thing about the Wild Child ROM is it all works, and incidentally I think the developer uses ext2 for his extended SD card partition! It sounds like you reformatted to ext2 or ext4 from ext3, so the only thing there now is what came from restoring that backup piece in Clockwork; therefore, there's nothing that would be lost that isn't already; and, you backed up everything else on the SD card. So I don't want you to brick your phone either, but I'm wondering about wiping the cache and then the dalvik-cache, and then restoring your whole Nandroid backup?! I think your Whatsapp contacts are saved and so if the phone boots to a working condition you could just uninstall Whatsapp right away, boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik-cache again just to be safe, and then decide what to do about using Whatsapp again. As long as you can get into recovery, ultimately you could wipe, wipe, wipe and reinstall Wild Child to start all over if nothing else works.
On the other hand maybe you've already got this whole mess straightened out, if not, I'll again wish you - Good luck!
Solved!
So I next wiped the cache partition 3 times, as someone on another thread said sometimes it takes more than one go to clear it all properly for some reason.
I also wiped the dalvik cache again a couple more times. Then I went back to my back up and restored system. Then I tried to boot my baby back up.
I was falling asleep at this time but I remember the phone partially recovered. But most of the apps were broken. I had low memory issues too, so I uninstalled a few apps, managed to restore some individual apps or update them, and log in long enough to send messages to contacts with my email so I wouldn't lose them.
Then I fell asleep with the phone in my hand haha.. when I woke up I immediately continued with it and finally worked my way back to whatsapp being the last app I wanted to deal with. I managed to get into it and send some messages.
Then I did a full nandroid restore on everything.
The phone returned to it's state as of 2 months ago when I last did a nandroid back up. But some of my TiBu apps were backed up more recently. So I manually restored those and things were mostly back to how they were before and I am fairly happy with the low loss of data.
Whatsapp was working fine for a while.. but then it started having problems. It first had all my contacts there... then it lost their names but kept their numbers, then it lost all the old messages and right now I'm in the middle of trying to restore everything again and it's stuck on a restoration. I did a full uninstall of the app, restored the back-up, then it tried to update, but it always fails and now it's just hanging. So it definitely appears that whatsapp is one of the major causes of problems on my phone.
It was also one of the largest apps I had on there. Wildchild is an awesome rom, it only lacked video really and I installed a codec and player for that and got it working again, despite the guys on the Wildchild thread saying they didn't think it was possible. Yes I had trouble with it sometimes, but most of my trouble stems back to the low memory issues and the fact I broke all my apps up by spreading parts of them over the SD card, internal storage as user apps and system memory. That's a Wildfire S problem, not the fault of the Rom.
Anyway, I've made note of all the important numbers and will be buying a larger capacity HTC phone this week. Not sure which yet, but possibly a Sensation or Sensation XE, depending on my budget.
Thanks for your support MiCeltic. Yes I'm in London hehe. And I hadn't read anything about using MBR on a phone, but it was the SD card which had the problem and that certainly fixed it without having to wipe all my data.
I think what I have here is multiple layers of problems.. and I'm really pleased that after 3 days effort I managed to get past most of them. Once I get my new phone and transfer the contacts, I will have to think twice about using whatsapp.. it's my favourite app of all tho, so it will be hard to part with. This phone has many bugs.. I will completely erase it and reflash it when I get time and either keep it as a back up and maybe gift it to my sister or mum as I said before.
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Last update
OK this is my past update on this... Whatsapp had one last surprise in store for me.
After it started messing up my phone again. I gave it one last chance. I completely removed it from the phone and installed it as new from the GooglePlay store. Then when I loaded it, it found the backed up Titanium BackUp messages and restored those.. then when I opened the app, it also had restored all my most recent messages, up to the day before it crashed the whole phone. I was amazed. They must have been stored on the server or something.. I think they sit there for 3 weeks. So I'm likely only missing one weeks worth of messages at most, about 4 weeks ago! Ha! Brilliant. I'm not doing a Nandroid backup cos everything is stable again and I hope to have no more troubles until it comes time to transfer all the date to the new handset... that's gonna take a while cos I will have to learn how to gain the boot mod rights all over again and maybe even flash a custom rom as the stock is sure to be loaded with bloatware. Still.. if it has a 1GB internal memory it shouldn't slow the phone down too much.. not compared to the tiny 150MB this little baby has!
If someone wants to close this thread now, feel free.
Cheers. :good:
You inspired me to read a little more last night and I did see where some people found a fix by uninstalling and then installing new (not from backup), then restoring their contacts. Seems like you've proved that point! Interestingly I read that ALL of your contacts are stored on the Whatsapp server, not just your contacts that have Whatsapp (Remember those permissions you accept when you install an app!). As I said, there are 300 million users, obviously not everyone has the problems, so hopefully it will work for you now and on your new phone, which after reading your posts I know you will make a back up of immediately and again after rooting...AND definitely before installing Whatsapp ! ! ! You might even find your next phone easier to root as a lot of them don't need an update of the bootloader on htcdev for the first step when unlocking and/or many can gain Soff!
Glad you got it working and now all's right with the world...well for now