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LG G2 and Moto 360

I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
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Robles23 said:
I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
Thanks
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I have the moto 360 and LG G2. Both work as expected.

Robles23 said:
I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
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I have the moto 360 and the LG G2 I must say though that the battery drains really fast on my G2. Im not going to keep it past xmas or whenever the moto x+1 comes out. The moto 360 does fine according to my standards on battery but my G2 is draining twice as fast as before even with my bluetooth headset streaming.

carajean said:
I have the moto 360 and the LG G2 I must say though that the battery drains really fast on my G2. Im not going to keep it past xmas or whenever the moto x+1 comes out. The moto 360 does fine according to my standards on battery but my G2 is draining twice as fast as before even with my bluetooth headset streaming.
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This is really good feedback. I am going to proceed and try to purchase one. I will try it out for a week since the return policy is 14 days. I will then decide if it's good enough to keep. I am dying to get my hands on a moto 360. Will try again this week. Ones again thanks for your feedback. If anybody else has anything else to share please don't hesitate. The more feedback the better.

PSA: Voice transcription speed depends on the caliber of your phone

I just posted this on reddit, figured I'd post it here too:
I used to use my G watch with my old Moto X. The 360 was about to be released, so I sold the G watch. Consequently, the 2014 X was about to be released, so I sold my old X as well.
Eventually the new 360 released, I paired it with my spare LG L90 ($20ish bucks from T-mobile!), and voice transcription was wayyyy slower than the G watch. I thought it was the IMAP processor lagging behind the snapdragon 400. Voice transcription bordered on useless for me. It was slow and error-prone.
So fast forward to now, I've got a 2014 X in front of me, I repaired it with my 360, and transcription speeds are back to normal. Before with the L90, it couldn't understand phrases like "two tow trucks just towed away some cars" or "10,000 dollars was a lot of cash 100 years ago." Now it handles them quickly and correctly on the first try.
Just a PSA in case you were wondering why your transcription was slow, it really depends on the caliber of your host device. I had no idea android wear would lean so heavily on the phone.

Hmm, that's odd. I have a Moto X 2013 and had the G Watch for about a week, and voice transcription was generally slow. I figured it was just an android wear thing. I've had my Moto 360 for 2 days and was pleasantly surprised that voice transcription has been near instant (using the same Moto X)
Maybe there are other factors that come into play as well?

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Hmm, that's odd. I have a Moto X 2013 and had the G Watch for about a week, and voice transcription was generally slow. I figured it was just an android wear thing. I've had my Moto 360 for 2 days and was pleasantly surprised that voice transcription has been near instant (using the same Moto X)
Maybe there are other factors that come into play as well?
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do both phones have BT 4.0?

I'm using an old galaxy s2 with cm11 on it, voice transcription speed is occasionally decent, often rubbish lol
It sure seems like the watch just sends raw audio to the phone and then sits and waits for the phone to transmit text back.

Paired with a OnePlus One, the transcription was so so. The phone is blazing fast... Moto 360..not so much.

aonavy said:
do both phones have BT 4.0?
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I used ONE phone with both watches. It was the same Moto X, which does have BT 4.0

Hmm interesting. It would make sense that it's sending the audio to the phone since the next step will probably occur on the phone (pulling info, executing command). To test it out, I "rapped" eminem lyrics fairly quickly and it was able to get about 90% of the words which to me is very impressive. I use a Nexus 5.

[Q] Talk me out of switching from the G3 to a Droid Turbo

So due to my Verizon contract situation (need to add a line for a family member anyway, don't have unlimited data) I have the option to get a Droid Turbo for $99 after rebate and give them my G3 instead of getting them a G3 or a Turbo for the same $99. In that situation, what are pros/cons of the two phones? My current thinking:
LG G3 Pros
1) Edge to edge screen gets you an extra 0.2" of real estate for same size phone
2) Removable battery (and I got a 2nd battery + charger from the promo by emailing LG)
3) Micro SD slot (for storing photos/video + caching majority of my Google Music)
4) I actually use the IR blaster for my projector/soundbar/cable box)
5) Thinner/lighter + good handfeel with curved back. I didn't like the 2nd gen Moto X when I held it, don't see how Turbo will be different unless I get the Ballistic Nylon backing
Droid Turbo Pros
1) Presumably smoother/less laggy between the 805 and close to stock Android. I don't really game on the phone but might start once things look pretty enough (do run Drastic's excellent DS emulator though, although that feels like it runs better on Tegra hardware)
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
3) Camera - 21MP is a beast, and 4K video is nice to have even if I probably won't use it at 24fps. I assume the Panoramas get fixed soon + can always use 3P app. I never got any value from the LG G3 laser focus and in fact thought the camera was one of the few unsatisfactory things about it
4) Battery life despite the "2 day" controversy. Also nice to have wireless charging/really fast charging. However, I already replaced the NFC with a Qi + NFC from Aliexpress on my G3
5) Ooh look it's new and shiny (this is currently the biggest reason I am considering switching, stupid I know)
6) For whatever reason, mic or connectivity, Moto seems to do better when it comes to call clarity, I find the G3 a step back from the G2, and if the Turbo is like the 2nd gen Moto X it will be better.
Question Marks:
1) Recent Verizon LG G3 bootloader unlock. Assume I can flash debloated Android 5.0 shortly and get a similar experience. Also worried that Turbo won't get unlock as Verizon exclusive limits dev community appeal somewhat
2) LG G3 corporate email (exchange) app was near unusable but seems to be a key fix in recent OTA (haven't taken yet). May be less of an issue with Exchange support in the Android 5.0 Gmail app (currently using Accompli, but it just came out of Beta and is still pretty unstable and doesn't always refresh consistently)
3) Screen - on one hand AMOLED but apparently brightness is pretty awful. I REALLY liked the G3 screen
4) Wifi ac - never got LG G3 to work right and I want to get value from my ac router, maybe Turbo will be better
5) Audio, not sure I love earpiece as speaker and low voltage headphones (I generally keep the volume all the way up when wearing IEMs with comply tips on flights - bad I know)

As you see from the endless replies, don't think anyone is going to talk you out of it.

All i have to say is - to me the DT is very very ugly - it looks almost akin to the Atrix 2 - *vomit*
And hardware buttons? - what is this 2009?
But whatever floats your boat.

. What were they thinking ... Holy Jesus on roller skates ! Its hideous ... No thanks .. G3 got me hooked
2SHAYNEZ

I bought the Turbo on release day, coming from the G3 and I plan to return it. I'm on my phone so can't type too much, but check out the Turbo sub-forum and you'll see many people complaining about worse WiFi performance, nylon issues with dirt, off-color and over saturated display, much worse camera, and only about the same battery life.
For me, the cellular radios are about the same within 1-2dBm, but WiFi is around 5-10dBm worse with the Turbo. The camera also is much worse, I made a G3 vs Turbo thread on the Turbo sub-forum, where I compared photos, they all lacked detail and weren't very good. Lots of people are complaining about the poor camera.
I also find the battery to be about the same as the G3, I was expecting significantly better.
Sent from my Droid Turbo

DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
I call BS on Motorola radios being better.
DROID Turbo:
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empiremaster23 said:
Droid Turbo Pros
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
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G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)

There may be some legitimate reasons to,get the Turbo over the G3. But you didn't list any of them (like moto voice, car mode, etc, etc, etc). In fact, I think all the reasons you have listed have been debunked already.
Honestly it sounds like you just want the newest and shiniest thing - which is fine. But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.

sic0048 said:
But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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That exactly !

All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!

KI_YOOU said:
All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
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My d850 runs fine and no complaints here.. Glad I'm not one of the ones (which is most seems like ) that has a laggy phone ... I guess my setup skills are I'm good shape
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That extra 1GB RAM might be the difference though.
Nexus 5
550mb used, 1,3GB free
LG G3 (16GB Orange version)
1,2GB Used, 603MB free

MalekoUK said:
G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
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Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.

It doesn't matter if the droid Turbo has a Snapdragon 805 processor (supposedly faster). If you don't optimize the phone settings it will still lag. My and my wife's D850 G3 doesn't have the lag so many here complain about. My Antutu test scores consistently in the 40ks with highest at 41252. Battery life as high as 50 hours between charge and that is with screen usage at 54% and SOT at 5 hrs 22 mins. I have gone 6 hrs 19 mins between charge with 21% battery remaining at 55% screen usage. Have over 50 apps installed on each G3.

Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?

KI_YOOU said:
Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.

Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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I agree that it will take forever for AT&T and Verizon to release official OTA. But as soon as the base version is released, ROM developers will work their magic to bring Lollipop to the other variations.

hwong96 said:
Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
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Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?

Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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LG has already announced in several European countries (UK, Germany, etc.) that the Lollipop update will be on its way before the new year. Europe has the D855.

wtd03 said:
Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
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Everything he has listed is just a click away ... He is still utilizing the phone fine ,its just battery saving tips dude lol ... Its not like he isn't using it ha ...
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Anybody going from G Pro to the G4?

I'm curious. Is anybody going from the G Pro to the G4? I've had the G Pro for almost 2 years. Thinking about going to the G4 or wait and see what the Nexus 7 phone will be later this year.
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I might. Will be waiting to see how development is gonna go till the end of the year.

Zero LG support makes it hard now for me.
I am thinking of moving next year.

Still no lollipop no support from LG. Thinking to switich to samsung
Sent from my LG Optimus G Pro E980

zohaibkhan143 said:
Still no lollipop no support from LG. Thinking to switich to samsung
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I have the Samsung S4 active and LG E980---both rooted and the S4 active has Lollipop and faster processor. Guess which phone I use? The LG! The battery life on all my Samsungs just can't compare---they're at 20% by 8:00 PM where the LG is at 60%. Also, the LG is faster and rarely seems to get bogged down. I am curious about the G4 though and it's either that or possibly the Moto. I'm done with Samsung---too much bloat and crap.

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I have the Samsung S4 active and LG E980---both rooted and the S4 active has Lollipop and faster processor. Guess which phone I use? The LG! The battery life on all my Samsungs just can't compare---they're at 20% by 8:00 PM where the LG is at 60%. Also, the LG is faster and rarely seems to get bogged down. I am curious about the G4 though and it's either that or possibly the Moto. I'm done with Samsung---too much bloat and crap.
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Yeah no doubt the batery life is great on LG.. G4 rocks as compare to S6 or others
Sent from my LG Optimus G Pro E980

But is the G4 a definite step up, or is it a lateral move? I remember looking at the specs for the G3, and it seemed that the OGP still had some Better specs in certain areas. So, if we migrate over to the G4, what if anything will we be losing? I might wait a bit and see if the G4 Note becomes a reality...
Edit: if you like a bright white screen, you might not be happy with the G4. When i did a side by side comparison between the G4 & the OGP, I noticed that the G4 was much dimmer than the OGP, and it had a distinct blue tint instead of the bright white I'm accustomed to. Both phones were set to m max brightness. I'm not sure if the G4 has any sort of tint or tone settings to have caused the blue-ish screen, but it was definitely set set max brightness. It reminded me of the coloring on an Amoled from a Note 2. One thing of note though...when viewed by itself, the G4's screen looked fine! But when placed side by side, there was a marked difference...

Let snapdragon 820 phone come. I will upgrade rather 808 or 810

I miss the home button LED on the ogp.

I played with the G4 twice in the store. The G Pro and the G4 both have the same size screen, but you get more screen to use on the G Pro when you factor in the G4 having onscreen buttons. I wish they had made the G4 with a 5.7 inch screen like the LG Stylus.
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NardVa said:
I played with the G4 twice in the store. The G Pro and the G4 both have the same size screen, but you get more screen to use on the G Pro when you factor in the G4 having onscreen buttons. I wish they had made the G4 with a 5.7 inch screen like the LG Stylus.
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Quite honestly, maybe I'm missing something. I messed around with the G4, G3, Samsung S5, S6 and the Nexxus 6 and I noticed very little difference in the LG E980 and these other phones. Screen--not much difference. Reaction time---almost the same. Size---same, thickness---slightly better but nothing crazy.
Honestly, about the only phone I thought was "exciting" was the Iphone 6 plus. But I want external memory and removable battery. Just not excited to upgrade...is there something I'm missing?

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Quite honestly, maybe I'm missing something. I messed around with the G4, G3, Samsung S5, S6 and the Nexxus 6 and I noticed very little difference in the LG E980 and these other phones. Screen--not much difference. Reaction time---almost the same. Size---same, thickness---slightly better but nothing crazy.
Honestly, about the only phone I thought was "exciting" was the Iphone 6 plus. But I want external memory and removable battery. Just not excited to upgrade...is there something I'm missing?
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Yeah you missing that you are crazy nut. Lol serious thought. I agree on pretty much everything. I do not think the last few years have made a big difference anymore. And the G Pro is probably the best phone you easily can buy for under 150 probably the best one anyway. Because most phones more expensive or same price range have build in battery and those after roughly 2 years aren't lasting anymore. I had to get a replacement for my G Pro because the battery drained within 3 hours. But isn't a big deal since it has a replaceable battery.
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I sold my G3, because of a very poor battery life, had to charge it 4-6 times daily, and this G4 is reported to have even poorer battery life than G3 on several sites
so I wont buy g4, there are better alternatives with lower price tags

Paleskin said:
I sold my G3, because of a very poor battery life, had to charge it 4-6 times daily, and this G4 is reported to have even poorer battery life than G3 on several sites
so I wont buy g4, there are better alternatives with lower price tags
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Like the ASUS Zenfone 2
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I moved from the G Pro to the G4. Battery life has been great so far, standby lasted a few days. On screen was near 6 hours with heavy use and the quick charge feature is great! Now that it's rooted and all of the bloat removed, it's an even better phone. The camera is very impressive and crisp. I still have my G Pro and love it however, I just don't turn it on much anymore. The G4 has impressed me to the point that my other devices really don't get touched anymore.
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Swapped my OGP with new G4 from a retailer yesterday. Its like riding a Trimph after a base model of Honda. Though a lot of bloatware, but zero lag till now.
Well, need you guys help. Please share inbuilt qhd videos on OGP with me. Searched over on internet but couldn't find anything.

I might not be alone...

Just got tired of the slow internet over wifi and the frequent screen unresponsiveness and picked up a used but in excellent condition LG G3 (which was my old phone BtW) out of craiglist and I am a happy camper again. I will keep my G4 as a back up phone now. Any one else in my situation?

I wonder if your phone has the same sprint issues. All Sprint G4's were put on hold for sale and they have orders to replace with no fees.
Lagging, I think is one of the symptoms. But the classic symptom is boot loops.
Anything built before September has the issues. But supposedly only Sprint version is affected, which seems really weird.

The g3 is a great phone! I still don't know why I even upgraded to the g4. I miss my g3

I have the bootloop issue from time to time vs986
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krazy_smokezalot said:
I have the bootloop issue from time to time vs986
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Bootloop issue? My VS986 verizon model never bootlooped. First I heard of it.
On subject, I kinda miss my LG G2. It was a solid phone. All of the little quirks that the G2 had that MADE ME UPGRADE are still in the LG G4 (random ghost LED notification, crashing keyboard, etc). It is frustrating. I upgraded to get rid of those problems only to find them in the G4, plus the G4 adds touchscreen issues. Also the G2 supposedly has dual cellular antennas to allow Calls and Data at the same time WITHOUT the need for Advanced Calling options turned on (which forces calls over LTE that digitizes and creates echoes and latency). So on the G4... I can't be on a conference call while getting emails or texts.
The LG G2 and G4 "feel" like the same phone, except the G4 has a noticeably better camera quality and slightly different physical feels (G4 is bigger). I don't regret my upgrade because, hell the G2 was an awesome phone. Outside of the occasional input touchscreen issues, I am happy. I never owned a G3 but whatever floats your boat. Most of the problems have been fixed already. I still get the occasional Ghost LED notification.

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Bootloop issue? My VS986 verizon model never bootlooped. First I heard of it.
On subject, I kinda miss my LG G2. It was a solid phone. All of the little quirks that the G2 had that MADE ME UPGRADE are still in the LG G4 (random ghost LED notification, crashing keyboard, etc). It is frustrating. I upgraded to get rid of those problems only to find them in the G4, plus the G4 adds touchscreen issues. Also the G2 supposedly has dual cellular antennas to allow Calls and Data at the same time WITHOUT the need for Advanced Calling options turned on (which forces calls over LTE that digitizes and creates echoes and latency). So on the G4... I can't be on a conference call while getting emails or texts.
The LG G2 and G4 "feel" like the same phone, except the G4 has a noticeably better camera quality and slightly different physical feels (G4 is bigger). I don't regret my upgrade because, hell the G2 was an awesome phone. Outside of the occasional input touchscreen issues, I am happy. I never owned a G3 but whatever floats your boat. Most of the problems have been fixed already. I still get the occasional Ghost LED notification.
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I find my self wanting to go back to my old G2.... In all honesty the G2 brought LG back onto the map..
People were expecting how the G2 was going to make a better successor due to how high it was held in regard. I think if LG hadn't made the G3 so large that it could have improved even further.
I hope they made a high end 5.2 inch phone again :/ tired of the large 5.5 inch phones and getting issues

Nexus 5X?

The antenna is at the top of the phone
Holding it sideways, your hand on it, and bye bye signal

All phones have this issue with Antennas. The Antennas are in the phone, so somehow or another, holding it a certain way will hinder service. However I never had wireless issues.