I'm very, very tired of flashing ROMs and finding that the only that deep sleeps well is the stock one (and I dislike it), is there any other deep sleeping ROM that you know about (and have tried yourself)? Please refrain from posting replies if you don't even know how to monitor the CPU states to know if the ROM sleeps well or not.
Thanks in advance for the help!!
Jose-MXL said:
I'm very, very tired of flashing ROMs and finding that the only that deep sleeps well is the stock one (and I dislike it), is there any other deep sleeping ROM that you know about (and have tried yourself)? Please refrain from posting replies if you don't even know how to monitor the CPU states to know if the ROM sleeps well or not.
Thanks in advance for the help!!
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Follow this guide and every rom will deep sleep i chose pacman http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/general/flashaholics-recipe-success-att-e980-t2854320. do it with your variant or make sure you have an e980 before flashing the modem supplied in this thread.
mrmcshagbag said:
Follow this guide and every rom will deep sleep i chose pacman http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/general/flashaholics-recipe-success-att-e980-t2854320. do it with your variant or make sure you have an e980 before flashing the modem supplied in this thread.
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Ok, PAC is not to my taste but I'll give it a shot if it deep sleeps, personally that guide is just a step by step for dummies on how to avoid doing mistakes on flashing and installing junk that may prevent the phone from deep sleeping, and, it is completely FALSE that every ROM will deep sleep after following it, but thanks for the reference anyway!, it might help others seeing this post.
Anyone else with other ROMs that are proven to deep sleep?
Jose-MXL said:
Ok, PAC is not to my taste but I'll give it a shot if it deep sleeps, personally that guide is just a step by step for dummies on how to avoid doing mistakes on flashing and installing junk that may prevent the phone from deep sleeping, and, it is completely FALSE that every ROM will deep sleep after following it, but thanks for the reference anyway!, it might help others seeing this post.
Anyone else with other ROMs that are proven to deep sleep?
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Flashtool back to 10k... Root.... Install cwm from freegee.... Boot into recovery and wipe phone clean... Flash custom ROM with gapps... Boot and sign in .. Immediately wipe google play services ,playstore,and google frame work...boot back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache .. Boot back up and set phone up .. I guarantee you will have deep sleep.... If deepsleeps stops after first charge then wipe google services and caches and it will come back ..... Believe me it works I flash daily and flash them all.... ITWORKS
2SHAYNEZ
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Flashing back to 10k is what does the trick .. But you have to do that process every time you want to try a new one I'm pretty sure .... I do to make sure I get sleep
2SHAYNEZ
Jose-MXL said:
Ok, PAC is not to my taste but I'll give it a shot if it deep sleeps, personally that guide is just a step by step for dummies on how to avoid doing mistakes on flashing and installing junk that may prevent the phone from deep sleeping, and, it is completely FALSE that every ROM will deep sleep after following it, but thanks for the reference anyway!, it might help others seeing this post.
Anyone else with other ROMs that are proven to deep sleep?
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I get deep sleep on every AOSP ROM using that process. No joke. I haven't been disappointed by battery life in at least six months, and I've flashed them all.
machinistsWIP said:
I get deep sleep on every AOSP ROM using that process. No joke. I haven't been disappointed by battery life in at least six months, and I've flashed them all.
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Thanks a lot, still, can you recommend an specific ROM (other than PAC above)?
Jose-MXL said:
Thanks a lot, still, can you recommend an specific ROM (other than PAC above)?
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I don't like recommending and specific ROMS to people, might make other developers feel inferior to the next.. just try many different ones until you find one that suits your needs.
Jose-MXL said:
Thanks a lot, still, can you recommend an specific ROM (other than PAC above)?
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Try beanstalk,aokp,aicp,gummy,pac,cm,candykat,...the list is enormous lol naw for real though they are all good and packed with features... its really up to you. Flash away and have fun doing it
2SHAYNEZ
Anyone have a good deepsleep on last nightly build of PacROM (11092014)?
I came frome stock 10k, I flash both BanKs Gapps and madmacks' modem, but it's just awake!
I also try to clear data, cache of GG frameworks, play store. But no lucks for me
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Anyone have a good deepsleep on last nightly build of PacROM (11092014)?
I came frome stock 10k, I flash both BanKs Gapps and madmacks' modem, but it's just awake!
I also try to clear data, cache of GG frameworks, play store. But no lucks for me
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I am running that build and sleeping good. What wake locks are you up against?
machinistsWIP said:
I am running that build and sleeping good. What wake locks are you up against?
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It's suspend_backoff. The ROM is really awesome, but I don't know why I came from stock 10k and flash madmack's modem also but cannot go into deepsleep?!
esslighter said:
It's suspend_backoff. The ROM is really awesome, but I don't know why I came from stock 10k and flash madmack's modem also but cannot go into deepsleep?!
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Clear your google play services... Wipe caches reboot
2SHAYNEZ
Stock KK-rom
I use the stock KK-rom. It sleeps like a baby.
shayneflashindaily said:
Flashtool back to 10k... Root.... Install cwm from freegee.... Boot into recovery and wipe phone clean... Flash custom ROM with gapps... Boot and sign in .. Immediately wipe google play services ,playstore,and google frame work...boot back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache .. Boot back up and set phone up .. I guarantee you will have deep sleep.... If deepsleeps stops after first charge then wipe google services and caches and it will come back ..... Believe me it works I flash daily and flash them all.... ITWORKS
2SHAYNEZ
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Flashing back to 10k is what does the trick .. But you have to do that process every time you want to try a new one I'm pretty sure .... I do to make sure I get sleep
2SHAYNEZ
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I +1 this. This is also my method. And works 101%. Even though I have F240 converted to E98x.
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I'm using Snipers PACMAN, and battery just seems to drain way to fast. It is the latest push. Being newly registered on here I hate to introduce my self this way but I need advice. What tweaks are being used by people for the SPH-D710 to help with this issue? I originally started with the CM 10.1 rom and found I had no data, flashed a different modem. Still no data, switched roms and now have data....go figure! But the battery drain is killing me, I've got it throttled back as far as I can go and it still be a daily driver. So anyone have any suggestions?
Godlys Comadose Tweak pack works great:thumbup:
Give it a shot and thank him while you're over there...here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39080082
OK....now I'm lost as to which to try and use.....reading the posts to the provided links seems to give contradictory information as to where to start this journey.....
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Most 4.2 Roms use ICS modems. As for battery us betterbatterystats found here on xda or gsam in the play store to determine if there's any rogue apps keeping the phone from sleeping. I also do manual syncing. Greenify is a great app to keep apps from running on their own. You can also use a custom kernel to limit max frequency and even undervolt. Kernels also come with different governors
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godzilla61 said:
OK....now I'm lost as to which to try and use.....reading the posts to the provided links seems to give contradictory information as to where to start this journey.....
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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Try the latest version....2.1
Anybody on this thread know anything about the pegasusq governer or how to implement it/install it?
rapman543 said:
Anybody on this thread know anything about the pegasusq governer or how to implement it/install it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24233103&postcount=3
Read...Read...Read
After reading through the above posts you should have some useful ideas about what this governor does.Also...as for installing a governor, they will be included in the kernel that flashed with ur rom or a kernal of ur choosing(MAKE SURE IT WILL WORK WITH THE ROM YOU HAVE) Im new to this, so if there is another way I dont know about it. Do ur research... As for setting a governor.. There are many roms with built in performance controls as well as many apps to set them. I suggest (set cpu) . It has a setting that will make a zip so u can recover from ur settings if u bootloop. This is found after u install and give it root permission. Hit ur menu button and click SAFE MODE. You should have a nandroid; always and just because.I hope this helps.. Remember...Read...Read...Read..lol.. Good Luck.Also read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005306
Gil81 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...03&postcount=3
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After reading through the above post you should have some useful ideas about what this governor does.Also...as for installing a governor, they will be included in the kernel that flashed with ur rom or a kernal of ur choosing(MAKE SURE IT WILL WORK WITH THE ROM YOU HAVE) Im new to this, so if there is another way I dont know about it. Do ur research... As for setting a governor.. There are many roms with built in performance controls as well as many apps to set them. I suggest (set cpu) . It has a setting that will make a zip so u can recover from ur settings if u bootloop. This is found after u install and give it root permission. Hit ur menu button and click SAFE MODE. You should have a nandroid; always and just because.I hope this helps.. Remember...Read...Read...Read..lol.. Good Luck.
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You identify yourself as "new to this" but you nailed this post 110%!! Many people would do well to take what you said here to heart. If they did there would be MANY fewer "help me" threads.
CyberpodS2 said:
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You identify yourself as "new to this" but you nailed this post 110%!! Many people would do well to take what you said here to heart. If they did there would be MANY fewer "help me" threads.
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Thank You...... I went ahead and added another link for him to read. I hope it helps. As to what you said, I like to think of myself as the poster child for the search button..lol..I think if you do the research it makes you feel better when it works and it is more likely to stick with you. This site is so great about that because there is just so much knowledge here to learn.I think some people get over-whelmed by it though or they are just unsure and need that go ahead push to know it works.
Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!
godzilla61 said:
Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!
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Well, you're commenting on a thread about battery life, but not posting about battery life. That's not going to help you much.
I also read that you want to ask a question, but I don't see a question in your post. If you do have a question, a great place to post it would be here: [Official] One Stop FAQ Thread - Noob Friendly (All questions go here). Okay? :good:
erikalin said:
Well, you're commenting on a thread about battery life, but not posting about battery life. That's not going to help you much.
I also read that you want to ask a question, but I don't see a question in your post. If you do have a question, a great place to post it would be here: [Official] One Stop FAQ Thread - Noob Friendly (All questions go here). Okay? :good:
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Well let me clarify it for you, it's my thread. The original question is still valid being as I was pointed this direction by a reply to my original post. Let me lessen your confusion on this matter......What other steps can I take to increase battery life......scripts didn't seem to help and a tweaked kernel put me in a boot loop....and whom do I ask if not the DEV?
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Well let me clarify it for you, it's my thread. The original question is still valid being as I was pointed this direction by a reply to my original post. Let me lessen your confusion on this matter......What other steps can I take to increase battery life......scripts didn't seem to help and a tweaked kernel put me in a boot loop....and whom do I ask if not the DEV?
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Hey bro, easy on the tone. Because there are so many ways to ask the question, the best way is to just spell it out how you did above. Battery life depends on the apps/ROM/user all at the same time. I am on Project X ROM. It has Crossbreeder installed. Now I am not no where informative about that app other than a lot of people like it. So with that being said and it is installed on the ROM, I leave it. I also have ROM Toolbox Pro. I have adjusted my CPU control to 1000MHZ. I also have DS Battery Saver Pro set to custom and to kill all apps when the screen goes off. Last the ROM I am on comes with Greenify. A great app in saving battery. I also turn off data and only have WIFI on when I need it. No need to just let things run. With that I have had 50% battery life left after 11 hrs. That is my setup and may not work for you. The main thing is to understand that battery life for EACH phone is different no matter how many common denominators people may have. Team Venum did a comparison of ROM's and their respective battery life. I don't know the post, but if you type "battery life" in the search, then I am sure you can find it. As for you response, I was in your shoes at one time. It does help to be specific in your questions. Not saying that you weren't. Reading each and every post will get tiresome, but if you type in what you want in the search, you will get a slew of post to get info. I have only been a member for 4 months, but I have learned how to flash a ROM, Mods, push and app, setup custom home screen. I have even been given the honor of testing a ROM. If you still need help, you can PM me and I will do what I can. Have a great one.
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Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!
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Its fine,you can rant here...lol..Ok ,I need more info.....
rom you're try to use with lz kernal
how you went about flashing said kernel
did you have any other tweaks or mods flashed before flashing lzp_4
All of this info is important, so I can tell you what is wrong....Thanks..
Gil81 said:
Its fine,you can rant here...lol..Ok ,I need more info.....
rom you're try to use with lz kernal
how you went about flashing said kernel
did you have any other tweaks or mods flashed before flashing lzp_4
All of this info is important, so I can tell you what is wrong....Thanks..
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Thanks Gil, this is exactly what I have done.
1. flashed from 4.03 to WILD-FOR-THE-NIGHT-07052013-d710, had no data....tried to find a fix for that...gave up after trying tweaks to help with the battery issue and no data.
2. Clean install of d710_PAC_JB_4.2.2-v23.0.0_20130719-015400, now have intermittent data, wifi works, blutooth works, flashed Fl24 modem with no apparent improvement in data connectivity, thought after reading a kernel flash might fix issues, here comes the boot loop....flashed smdk4412_p4 waited patiently for 2hrs watching Pacman chasing ghosts.....booted into recovery and ran my backup tried it 2 more times on clean flashs gave up after 5 hrs. By clean I mean wipe/reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, install from zip.
3. this is how I installed the kernel:
Make a backup
Download .zip to PC
Transfer .zip to sdcard
Reboot to recovery
Flash
Phone automatically rebooted after install
waited and waited......boot back into recovery. restore by backup.
everything has been done with CWM based recovery. I'm stumped....frustrated to no end......
godzilla61 said:
Thanks Gil, this is exactly what I have done.
1. flashed from 4.03 to WILD-FOR-THE-NIGHT-07052013-d710, had no data....tried to find a fix for that...gave up after trying tweaks to help with the battery issue and no data.
2. Clean install of d710_PAC_JB_4.2.2-v23.0.0_20130719-015400, now have intermittent data, wifi works, blutooth works, flashed Fl24 modem with no apparent improvement in data connectivity, thought after reading a kernel flash might fix issues, here comes the boot loop....flashed smdk4412_p4 waited patiently for 2hrs watching Pacman chasing ghosts.....booted into recovery and ran my backup tried it 2 more times on clean flashs gave up after 5 hrs. By clean I mean wipe/reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, install from zip.
3. this is how I installed the kernel:
Make a backup
Download .zip to PC
Transfer .zip to sdcard
Reboot to recovery
Flash
Phone automatically rebooted after install
waited and waited......boot back into recovery. restore by backup.
everything has been done with CWM based recovery. I'm stumped....frustrated to no end......
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First off...I have had the lzp_4 boot loop on me. I pulled the battery,waited about 2 min. Put it back in and booted to recovery. Then I wiped cache and dalvik. Rebooted and it took off(booted fine). I have no idea why or how, but this worked for me. Now to my main concern. If you came straight from ics to a jb rom I think this is going to cause you issues, if you hadn't been on jb before. I suggest the one - click full restore(it wipes data,so back-up you're internal memory).This will get you're phone partition right for jb. After this. I think you should be able to flash what you want with no problems. I didn't see a problem with how you flashed. Wipe cache and dalvik on the kernal flashes you do.Here's the link for the one -click..
go to linked page and click on download ota at top of page
I would read through the page it sends you to well.Don't forget to thank those guys..Hope this helps.Hit me up if it doesn't.
.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148072
Doing a one click restore worries me, I'm not on sprint any more and worried about losing my flash to my current carrier. Is this a concern I should have since I'm not used to working with odin? I'm more than willing to try another ROM also, I'm not locked into this by any means.....
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Doing a one click restore worries me, I'm not on sprint any more and worried about losing my flash to my current carrier. Is this a concern I should have since I'm not used to working with odin? I'm more than willing to try another ROM also, I'm not locked into this by any means.....
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The carrier should not matter if you are on an E4GT phone. But if your trying to go to a JB ROM, you will need to aupdate to GB** for your phone. For sprint it is GB27. Have you tried RWilco12's repository to see if your carrier is listed? Also QBKing77 has a lot of videos concerning this specific phone. How to flash specific ROMs and upgrading specific build, modems and such. Something has got to work for you.
fitting toryBB
bigmike6200 said:
The carrier should not matter if you are on an E4GT phone. But if your trying to go to a JB ROM, you will need to aupdate to GB** for your phone. For sprint it is GB27. Have you tried RWilco12's repository to see if your carrier is listed? Also QBKing77 has a lot of videos concerning this specific phone. How to flash specific ROMs and upgrading specific build, modems and such. Something has got to work for you.
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Well now I'm stuck on Sprints 4G boot screen just keeps looping.....WTH.....I've never had a phone be a pain like this....guess I let it kill the battery and see what happens. Recovery is there, not cwm so can't even restore my backup. I'm just frustrated by this phone! Gill, bigmike any idea which way to turn now?
godzilla61 said:
Well now I'm stuck on Sprints 4G boot screen just keeps looping.....WTH.....I've never had a phone be a pain like this....guess I let it kill the battery and see what happens. Recovery is there, not cwm so can't even restore my backup. I'm just frustrated by this phone! Gill, bigmike any idea which way to turn now?
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What ROM did you flash? Was it ICS or Jellybean? What carrier are you on. That was never revealed.
Never kill the battery. I sed you tried" Wild for the night" and Pac something. Can you get to recovery?
X'ed out the game
Ok so my gs3 is having a few issues with the new 4.3 custom roms coming out nowadays...
Basicly after flashing (for instance) Slim bean 4.3 stable build 1, or the new 4.3 Liquid Smooth 2.10 the problems start.
But not right away see on the inital install and system reboot the phone boots PERFECTLY, its when i turn off my phone or it dies.
Thats when the phone starts to hang, either on the samasung logo for Liquid Sooth, or it'll hang on SLIM for the Slim bean rom
I am not new to Flashing there just something im over looking and i hope somone has the answer
thanks in advance
420growking said:
Ok so my gs3 is having a few issues with the new 4.3 custom roms coming out nowadays...
Basicly after flashing (for instance) Slim bean 4.3 stable build 1, or the new 4.3 Liquid Smooth 2.10 the problems start.
But not right away see on the inital install and system reboot the phone boots PERFECTLY, its when i turn off my phone or it dies.
Thats when the phone starts to hang, either on the samasung logo for Liquid Sooth, or it'll hang on SLIM for the Slim bean rom
I am not new to Flashing there just something im over looking and i hope somone has the answer
thanks in advance
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How are you wiping the phone?
Sent from my GalaxyS3
joeyhdownsouth said:
How are you wiping the phone?
Sent from my GalaxyS3
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The usuall method, i never dirty flash NEVER
full wipe
factory reset
fix permissions
install rom install gapps
Why do you fix permissions after you wipe and before you flash? There are no permissions to fix at that point.
metalfan78 said:
Why do you fix permissions after you wipe and before you flash? There are no permissions to fix at that point.
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I do it cause i prefer to do so im only looking for fix to my problem so keep usless quetions to a minimum...
Thanks inadvance to anyone with usfull info
Calm down man, I was just asking. I've never seen anyone else do that step before so I thought maybe your issues stems from there.
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Maybe it's the incorrect gapps.
metalfan78 said:
Calm down man, I was just asking. I've never seen anyone else do that step before so I thought maybe your issues stems from there.
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Maybe it's the incorrect gapps.
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nahh i make sure to get gapps with every specific rom sometimes even downloading gapps twice everything when it come to gapps and rom setup is correct remebber i been rooting for long time now
Could be some kind of hardware failure as well. Have you flashed a stock rom to see if it still does it?
metalfan78 said:
Could be some kind of hardware failure as well. Have you flashed a stock rom to see if it still does it?
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i havent been back to stock in a long while i am currently running 4.2 Liquid Smooths and it has been my driver for a very long time runs beyond perfect so i can run roms just not 4.3 roms
I've read on here about issues with 4.3 roms not running right.
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I've read on here about issues with 4.3 roms not running right.
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Strange though, I've been running Illusion since it came out as 4.3 without any problems or reboots at all.
Sent from my GalaxyS3
That is strange, makes me wonder if it is hardware related.
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That is strange, makes me wonder if it is hardware related.
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I thank both of u for sticking with me and trying to help me resolve this issue i finally came across a fix
I flashed a new kernal everyone was talking about it has the rom running magnificent i restarted the phone 5 times to make sure i wasnt getting punked by my phone
Nedless to say the rom start all 5 times withought one hang
Thank you guys for the comments and help (even thou i figuered it out myself) lol
Nice. I never even thought about the kernel.
Q&A for [ROM][SM-T900] CyanogenMod for Tab Pro 12.2 SM-T900 (v2wifixx)
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Rooting Tab Pro 12.2 with last firm done!
arcadia2uk said:
For rooting the latest firmware, did you use the CF-Auto-Root from the main site, marked KOT49H.T900XXUANB5, or a new one made for the KOT49H.T900UEUANI1? If the latter, would you mind posting a link to a T900UEUANI1 compatible version?
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Don't needed. You can root the normal cf-auto-root with latest sock without problem.
After we pm chat last days about rollback to T900UEUAND4 as unique possibility for rooting, i decided to do a last try before that, and luckily works perfect:
-just did a factory reset to restore from B3 recovery i been trying to prev installed T900UEUANI1 stock, wipe caché with stock recovery, odined cf-auto-root and voilá, just rooted!
No need to do the old B3-rollback-prior-D4 method now. Just a normal auto-root with no hassling.
temp maybe?
chhaggerty said:
It sounds like you maybe having a "Sleep of Death" (SOD) issue. The T520 and P900 have had similar problems. I will out of town until Monday but I'll do some research and hope to have a solution soon.
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crpalmer said:
There is a deadlock in Samsung's code triggered by the CPU boost driver. Look in the t520 device repo for the commit that disables it (actually probably 2 commits because I removed some functionality that doesn't make sense for this processor).
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Device: SM-T900
Android: 4.4.2 (Stock, unrooted)
Kernel: 3.4.39-2534013
When putting the tablet into sleep mode, it will automatically shut itself down. When I try to turn it back on, the tablet will only do so after I plugged in the charger. The battery itself is fully charged.
I've updated to the latest available firmware version that's available to me. I couldn't find any list of known issues, so I'm wondering if this is a common problem and if I should return my tablet?
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Same here. It seems that the problem maybe is temperature: after some time charging it gets really hot and maybe can't awake from that and need rebooting.
I've disabled the magnet sensor vía 3rd app to off the close-lid functionality but don't improve the problem.
Here in summer the room gets to +30°c and the Tab ups to almost 65°c when it gets hot!
Maybe it just reach the temp threshold and self shutdown, or intend that not letting awake.
Perhaps CM11 build here charges battery too fast, with higher voltage than allowed and provoque overheating. I mean, i really feels that it's charging real fast..
Well currently its winter and cold. My tab was cool but it does not respond after deep sleep unless i reboot. Dev said he will look into it and i will wait. Not sure if temp is cause as mine was not definitely not hot.
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lingarajug said:
Well currently its winter and cold. My tab was cool but it does not respond after deep sleep unless i reboot. Dev said he will look into it and i will wait. Not sure if temp is cause as mine was not definitely not hot.
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Posted update last night, check it out
Thanks, btw, i was able to use ODIN to get a good version of TWRP and the ROM installed smoothly. I have encountered a few small bugs but nothing to report that is new. I noticed the "sleep of death" I think you are referring to, deep sleep resulting in a manual reboot to wake up. I have noticed my bluetooth disconnects and reconnects every few minutes during deep sleep..not sure why. will report back. Thanks SO SO much for the development, i love it, so sick of the green and blue and the settings tabs on this stock OS disgust me. I am curious tho, am I the only one who noticed significant slowdown and lag compared to stock? I do not put a lot of stock in benchmarks (skewed toward uncle sammy) but they also showed big slowdown....just my very humble and grateful early experiences. Thanks again.
total reflashing needed?
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Posted update last night, check it out
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Well thanks, but,i don't see a flashing update but an entire 221MBs rom to flash..
Can you post just the little update file , if there's any, to flash above the installed rom?
I don't want to install rom, apps and config all over again.
Thanks!
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lingarajug said:
Well currently its winter and cold. My tab was cool but it does not respond after deep sleep unless i reboot. Dev said he will look into it and i will wait. Not sure if temp is cause as mine was not definitely not hot.
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Yes you are right, i'd tried again and it SODs no matter what temp are. A shame.
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arcadia2uk said:
For rooting the latest firmware, did you use the CF-Auto-Root from the main site, marked KOT49H.T900XXUANB5, or a new one made for the KOT49H.T900UEUANI1? If the latter, would you mind posting a link to a T900UEUANI1 compatible version?
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Well there's a problem right now, seems that this rom prevent to enter recovery.., this is what happen to me:
Reboot from Android with 'reboot to recovery' option and when the TWRP splash logo shows it enter in a bootloop always to this instance that TWRP logo appears.
Then i just installed the good old UAND4 rom and it works fine.
Maybe i shouldn't go to recovery direct from android to prevent bootloop happen and try to go the normal way from boot.
Don't know, maybe I'll try some day.., or maybe better wait to Android L comes to us.
Please advice all that stuff in the respective threads, i can't.., cause' these 'noobs-wait-to-10-posting-before' rules..
Greetings.
bertoxo said:
1. Can you post just the little update file , if there's any, to flash above the installed rom?
2. Yes you are right, i'd tried again and it SODs no matter what temp are. A shame.
3. Well there's a problem right now, seems that this rom prevent to enter recovery.., this is what happen to me:
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1. You can "dirty"-flash (install w/o wiping) the new ROM over the old one - nothing to re-install - if you wish you could extract the kernel (boot.img) and flash it by Flashify
2. There haven't been reported any SOD issues after flashing chhaggerty's latest ROM version
3. I have had no issues with with TWRP after having flashed the KOT49H.T900UEUANI1 - I just assume that some parts of the Firmware, not touched by cm, has been improved (but since this is WIFI only, it might not be the case for a non phone device) why I preferred to make the update.
arcadia2uk said:
1. You can "dirty"-flash (install w/o wiping) the new ROM over the old one - nothing to re-install - if you wish you could extract the kernel (boot.img) and flash it by Flashify
2. There haven't been reported any SOD issues after flashing chhaggerty's latest ROM version
3. I have had no issues with with TWRP after having flashed the KOT49H.T900UEUANI1 - I just assume that some parts of the Firmware, not touched by cm, has been improved (but since this is WIFI only, it might not be the case for a non phone device) why I preferred to make the update.
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1- but dirty flashing the update full rom performs well?
1.2- only the boot.img is needed for update?
3- have you tried the reboot-to-recovery option from android?
Thanks.
bertoxo said:
1- but dirty flashing the update full rom performs well?
1.2- only the boot.img is needed for update?
3- have you tried the reboot-to-recovery option from android?
Thanks.
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The changes done between the two versions (99% sure) was only some modifications in the kernel-code. Why flashing the kernel only should be fine, it will resolve the SOD and also make it run cooler. But if you wish you can also dirty-flash. However, cover your bases with a full back-up.
No issues at all with the reboot to recovery option
arcadia2uk said:
The changes done between the two versions (99% sure) was only some modifications in the kernel-code. Why flashing the kernel only should be fine, it will resolve the SOD and also make it run cooler. But if you wish you can also dirty-flash. However, cover your bases with a full back-up.
No issues at all with the reboot to recovery option
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Can you give me the boot.img update only to try (5MBs)?
220MBs in the posted download site go sooo sloow on any server..
Thanks a lot!
bertoxo said:
Can you give me the boot.img update only to try (5MBs)?
220MBs in the posted download site go sooo sloow on any server..
Thanks a lot!
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HERE it is
unzip the downloaded file
place boot.img on your SD
use Flashify to flash the kernel
after this I believe flashify will boot you up in recovery, just reboot and you should be good to go.
Just remember to make a back-up for just in case...
HERE it is
unzip the downloaded file
place boot.img on your SD
use Flashify to flash the kernel
after this I believe flashify will boot you up in recovery, just reboot and you should be good to go.
Just remember to make a back-up for just in case...
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Thanks!
Installed boot.img and works flawlessly. Now i can back using lid cover again and no more hangs.
I hope they can solve the auto-rotate thing next time.
flashing screen, powering down...
I have twrp 2.8, v2 of our Cyanogenmod, set processor to on demand as suggested...
Still when I play games like CoC and others, if I am not plugged in even with a lot of bat% left, I get a flashing screen and occasionally my tab just decides it needs to shut off.
Any thoughts on what to do? I have greenify and Xposed installed too...
It pretty frustrating.
THANKS GUYS!!
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I have twrp 2.8, v2 of our Cyanogenmod, set processor to on demand as suggested...
Still when I play games like CoC and others, if I am not plugged in even with a lot of bat% left, I get a flashing screen and occasionally my tab just decides it needs to shut off.
Any thoughts on what to do? I have greenify and Xposed installed too...
It pretty frustrating.
THANKS GUYS!!
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My guess is that gaming need more power, why I would stop greeify and reset the governor to interactive while gaming. But other than that I have no ideas, as I haven't heard of this problem before.
This ROM is fantastic! Smooth, fast, responsive and just as described...big thanks.
spk99 said:
I have twrp 2.8, v2 of our Cyanogenmod, set processor to on demand as suggested...
Still when I play games like CoC and others, if I am not plugged in even with a lot of bat% left, I get a flashing screen and occasionally my tab just decides it needs to shut off.
Any thoughts on what to do? I have greenify and Xposed installed too...
It pretty frustrating.
THANKS GUYS!!
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I don't know if you noticed, but chhaggerty just released a version 3, maybe this will work as there has been some work on the governors.
chhaggerty said:
New update see OP
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Can i use the 4.4.4 GAPPS instead of 4.4.3 you are posting?
arcadia2uk said:
Thanks for another quality update, notably when reading how other cm11 exynos versions always seems to break something. With your T-900 cm11, I have never had any issues. The latest version is still running smooth, the changes in the CPU governor will probably allow for better battery life with the added conservative setting. However, I don't know what trade-off this will have on performance.
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Maybe they start to use the big.LITTLE behavior of the Exynos, instead of ever using just the full power a15 cluster (battery eater).
I've haven't tried it but since it's a 4.4.4 rom they should work fine.
Error flashing ROM
Hi guys,
I get this error message when I try to flash CM11:
"Can't install this package on top of incompatible data. Please try another package or run a factory reset"
This is a brand new rooted SMT-900 Tab Pro 12.2". Here's some notes:
- I received the error using V1, V2, and V3, all receive the error message
- I downloaded two copies of v3 from two separate mirrors (CA and AZ), both receive the error message
- I did a factory reset and still received the error message
- Wiped davlik/cache/system partitions
- Tried on TWRP 2.7 and 2.8, both receive same error message
- All I have done to this tablet is root it, install TWRP, and create one backup
Any thoughts? I can try using CWM if someone can give me a quick overview of how to install it and remove TWRP (or keep TWRP).
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No wifi
I love love love this ROM, it's incredibly fast, I've got the debloated version. But I have no wifi on it. The wifi stays off and when I try to turn it on it flips right back to off again. Any suggestions? I wiped, cache, dalvik, everything before and after and reinstalled once. Will reinstall again.
I'm using TWRP vs CWM-would that make a difference?
TwistedPenguin said:
I love love love this ROM, it's incredibly fast, I've got the debloated version. But I have no wifi on it. The wifi stays off and when I try to turn it on it flips right back to off again. Any suggestions? I wiped, cache, dalvik, everything before and after and reinstalled once. Will reinstall again.
I'm using TWRP vs CWM-would that make a difference?
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Glad you like the rom, thanks for the feedback!
Not sure about the wifi, haven't had any trouble on mine. N5110, right?
I have Philz on mine but don't see why TWRP wouldn't be fine... What rom were you on before?
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sefrcoko said:
Glad you like the rom, thanks for the feedback!
Not sure about the wifi, haven't had any trouble on mine. N5110, right?
I have Philz on mine but don't see why TWRP wouldn't be fine... What rom were you on before?
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I had tried several, but wipe completely each time. It might've been one of the Lollipops right before. I wondered if it had anything to do with the kernal? I don't know much about that aspect of it.
TwistedPenguin said:
I had tried several, but wipe completely each time. It might've been one of the Lollipops right before. I wondered if it had anything to do with the kernal? I don't know much about that aspect of it.
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Yes kernel controls hardware related things including wifi if I'm not mistaken. Which kernel are you using? The stock kernel included with the rom or a custom kernel?
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sefrcoko said:
Yes kernel controls hardware related things including wifi if I'm not mistaken. Which kernel are you using? The stock kernel included with the rom or a custom kernel?
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I didn't ever specifically change kernels (if that's possible). I just installed 4 or 5 different ROMs over the course of the past few wks to see which I liked. I made back ups of my original stock/rooted ROM and several that I liked. I've got SlimKat ROM on here now, would it do any good for me to go into settings and see which kernel it is? Probably not, I suspect.
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I didn't ever specifically change kernels (if that's possible). I just installed 4 or 5 different ROMs over the course of the past few wks to see which I liked. I made back ups of my original stock/rooted ROM and several that I liked. I've got SlimKat ROM on here now, would it do any good for me to go into settings and see which kernel it is? Probably not, I suspect.
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Ok no that's cool. Yes it's possible to change kernels, but since you didn't flash a different one that means you had the stock kernel (which is included with the rom and works fine). Just to be sure, you have the N5110 model, right?
sefrcoko said:
Ok no that's cool. Yes it's possible to change kernels, but since you didn't flash a different one that means you had the stock kernel (which is included with the rom and works fine). Just to be sure, you have the N5110 model, right?
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Yes, sorry. It's the N5110 model.
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Yes, sorry. It's the N5110 model.
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Ok cool thanks. Really not sure what the wifi issue on your setup might be. Works fine here and for other users as far as I see. I did a quick Google searche and the top solutions seem to be a factory reset, the "wifi fixer" app in the Play Store, or possibly trying different settings/channels/reboot on your router. If nothing works, then it might be because something got corrupted in the base over time by flashing different TW/AOSP ROMs, in which case it might be worthwhile to Odin stock firmware from sammobile and then install this rom and test. Might be more hassle for you than it's worth (especially if your other ROMs already work fine), but just trying to provide options lol. You could also try Regular instead of Debloated to see if there is any difference in wifi for you there.
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Ok cool thanks. Really not sure what the wifi issue on your setup might be. Works fine here and for other users as far as I see. I did a quick Google searche and the top solutions seem to be a factory reset, the "wifi fixer" app in the Play Store, or possibly trying different settings/channels/reboot on your router. If nothing works, then it might be because something got corrupted in the base over time by flashing different TW/AOSP ROMs, in which case it might be worthwhile to Odin stock firmware from sammobile and then install this rom and test. Might be more hassle for you than it's worth (especially if your other ROMs already work fine), but just trying to provide options lol. You could also try Regular instead of Debloated to see if there is any difference in wifi for you there.
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I appreciate your input very much! I love this rom. I've got it installed again messing around with it while the Regular version is downloading. (I'm bestowed with slow rural internet). I'll let you know if Regular works better. It's probably going to bug me enough as to why it doesn't work that I'll go to the trouble of going back to stock, re-downloading and trying it fresh
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I appreciate your input very much! I love this rom. I've got it installed again messing around with it while the Regular version is downloading. (I'm bestowed with slow rural internet). I'll let you know if Regular works better. It's probably going to bug me enough as to why it doesn't work that I'll go to the trouble of going back to stock, re-downloading and trying it fresh
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Sounds good! Yeah it's a bit of a hassle but at least you have other roms to fall back on worst case, but i'll admit this is kinda bugging me too so if you get to the bottom of it please let me know . [emoji106] . Thanks again for the positive feedback btw, happy to hear the rom's working out (aside from your wifi)
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Enable Android Encryption
Has anyone been able to successfully enable android encryption using this rom? I tried with the Deodexed version, safe boot, turning off SuperSU and haven't been able to get it to start encrypting properly. I need it since I have policy looking for encrypted state before I can allow mail to be made available.
Many thanks in advance!
LD
diazlaz said:
Has anyone been able to successfully enable android encryption using this rom? I tried with the Deodexed version, safe boot, turning off SuperSU and haven't been able to get it to start encrypting properly. I need it since I have policy looking for encrypted state before I can allow mail to be made available.
Many thanks in advance!
LD
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Not sure... does it work fine on other rooted deodexed roms?
wifi won't turn on
Hi, I've flashed both the regular version and the debloated version on my N5110 after clean wipes.
The wifi will not turn on in either case.
I've done factory resets from within settings.
Any ideas?
I've read the thread, the Q&A thread, and done a google search to no avail....
I'm coming from stock 4.2.2 (rooted and unlocked of course) where everything worked... it just seemed to have a pretty short battery life.
I've reinstalled the nandroid backup and wifi still works there.
I'd really like to try this.
Thanks for your hard work as a developer by the way
zippersmith said:
Hi, I've flashed both the regular version and the debloated version on my N5110 after clean wipes.
The wifi will not turn on in either case.
I've done factory resets from within settings.
Any ideas?
I've read the thread, the Q&A thread, and done a google search to no avail....
I'm coming from stock 4.2.2 (rooted and unlocked of course) where everything worked... it just seemed to have a pretty short battery life.
I've reinstalled the nandroid backup and wifi still works there.
I'd really like to try this.
Thanks for your hard work as a developer by the way
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Not sure...Works fine here but I saw another user report this a while back. The others said all working fine so I'm assuming something may have got corrupted on your setup along the way. Perhaps you can try using odin to flash the latest stock firmware for your device from sammobile.com, then try installing twrp through odin and finally my rom through twrp. Best way to eliminate variables and start fresh
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Not sure...Works fine here but I saw another user report this a while back. The others said all working fine so I'm assuming something may have got corrupted on your setup along the way. Perhaps you can try using odin to flash the latest stock firmware for your device from sammobile.com, then try installing twrp through odin and finally my rom through twrp. Best way to eliminate variables and start fresh [/QUOTE
This^
Worked for me. Nice smooth Rom... thank you I hope this saves me from constant looping unrooted stock provided. Although battery life seems to still drain quickly. Any thoughts?
Edit to say im having a slight issue with the tablet shutting down on its own when not in use.
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BBBlessed said:
sefrcoko said:
Not sure...Works fine here but I saw another user report this a while back. The others said all working fine so I'm assuming something may have got corrupted on your setup along the way. Perhaps you can try using odin to flash the latest stock firmware for your device from sammobile.com, then try installing twrp through odin and finally my rom through twrp. Best way to eliminate variables and start fresh [/QUOTE
This^
Worked for me. Nice smooth Rom... thank you I hope this saves me from constant looping unrooted stock provided. Although battery life seems to still drain quickly. Any thoughts?
Edit to say im having a slight issue with the tablet shutting down on its own when not in use.
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Thanks for confirming! Yes flashing different roms can corrupt system files so a fresh odin install is always a good way to start clean. No issues here with the tablet shutting down..could possibly be due to a rogue app conflicting with something or an xposed module. As for battery life I agree. Not worse than stock but not better either. The built-in battery is now also probably less efficient than it used to be, as they all do over time. Sammy should have put a bigger battery in this tablet!
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BBBlessed said:
Thanks for confirming! Yes flashing different roms can corrupt system files so a fresh odin install is always a good way to start clean. No issues here with the tablet shutting down..could possibly be due to a rogue app conflicting with something or an xposed module. As for battery life I agree. Not worse than stock but not better either. The built-in battery is now also probably less efficient than it used to be, as they all do over time. Sammy should have put a bigger battery in this tablet!
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I did a battery pull and that help a great deal with the battery life . Also I don't think I have had the issue of shutting down maybe the rom needed to settle in lol. I don't know but all is well now thank you so much for this rom. My tablet isn't trash anymore.
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BBBlessed said:
sefrcoko said:
I did a battery pull and that help a great deal with the battery life . Also I don't think I have had the issue of shutting down maybe the rom needed to settle in lol. I don't know but all is well now thank you so much for this rom. My tablet isn't trash anymore.
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Awesome, glad to hear it's all sorted out now. Cheers!
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Hello sefrcoko
my Note N5110 currently has the stock fw 4.2.2.
Once I have root and custom recovery, can I directly flash your rom?
Or I have to flash the stock fw 4.4.2 before your rom?
Thanks a lot
Bye
Hello XDA,i tried to root my galaxy S9(Exynos) and i think i f***ed up.
I used a site i fount and seemed ok and now after all i done my phone behaves slow,restarts itself,on short,i dont know exactly what i did wrong,but i know i did wrong,and i want to fix it.
i want a detailed answer,as for dummies,cause i never got into such an complicate root process.
Thanks.
EDIT:Using TWRP i formated data and now the phone looks like its back to normal(stock) if someone can help me root it i will be extremly happy
I never trust anything other than XDA, i'm looking for a way to root too..
Jens956 said:
I never trust anything other than XDA, i'm looking for a way to root too..
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managed to make root work but a problem appeared:unable to use samsung account,unable to use any other type of lock screen type except swipe,andafter i instaled youtube vanced using magisk repozitory the phone entered again in the lock screen loop.i think its something about the kernel i used(elementalX 2.08) or the no verity version using 1.0.
I will look trough the forum for other versions and i will try to flash them.i will also try to flash a new rom,maybe thats the problem.
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managed to make root work but a problem appeared:unable to use samsung account,unable to use any other type of lock screen type except swipe,andafter i instaled youtube vanced using magisk repozitory the phone entered again in the lock screen loop.i think its something about the kernel i used(elementalX 2.08) or the no verity version using 1.0.
I will look trough the forum for other versions and i will try to flash them.i will also try to flash a new rom,maybe thats the problem.
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The ROM is probably the problem for you. Because now knox is tripped for you many samsung and other services dont work anymore for you on pure vanilla stock. If you like oneUI maybe try out a few roms, they are better than stock. There is also a growing AOSP ROM community, there is a group on telegram you should check out.
Haxomen said:
The ROM is probably the problem for you. Because now knox is tripped for you many samsung and other services dont work anymore for you on pure vanilla stock. If you like oneUI maybe try out a few roms, they are better than stock. There is also a growing AOSP ROM community, there is a group on telegram you should check out.
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Flashing TGP Kernel and magis again worked to get out of the loop,but the services still dont work(samsung,google works just fine).
Can you give me a good and stable up to date ROM for the exynos s9?and some instructions on how to install it?
Every ROM i try to install results in a boot loop, and now my phone FROZE on the boot logo i cant even turn it off! Help!
Jens956 said:
Every ROM i try to install results in a boot loop, and now my phone FROZE on the boot logo i cant even turn it off! Help!
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WOW!Thats bad.Have you tried the power+power down combo for shutting it down?a thing i can suggest better is to let it drain completly,and try to boot it in twrp,do a wipe and then try again.
DrTrap said:
WOW!Thats bad.Have you tried the power+power down combo for shutting it down?a thing i can suggest better is to let it drain completly,and try to boot it in twrp,do a wipe and then try again.
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Yeah.. the only thing that worked is by rooting samsungs stock rom with TGPKernel but now the entire phone crashes every 2 days
Jens956 said:
Yeah.. the only thing that worked is by rooting samsungs stock rom with TGPKernel but now the entire phone crashes every 2 days
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none of the issues detailed in this thread make any sense. If a g965f is bootlooping after an attempt at rooting it, whatever was done in that attempt obviously failed and nothing in this thread really explains why, which mostly seems to be due to the lack of info from the OP and who all has participated thus far. We have no idea what baseband the OP is on, what version of TWRP they used, what version of Odin. We are lucky to know its a 965f so far...
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Jens956 said:
I never trust anything other than XDA, i'm looking for a way to root too..
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a great deal of the devs that make the android community great all hang out here and share their contributions first on here, but you will find that certain phones on this site get far more attention than others, and the S9 area is a sad sad shell of what xda used to be. The reason im replying to your post at all is because xda is not the only place one can go to get good info on phones, but it is a reasonable place to put your trust if youre unfamiliar with the myriad of other sites specifically devoted to android and the users that avoid XDA for one reason or another. Try talking about any pay services on here or anything to do with "software of the illegitimate variety"