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How to stop screen dimming

This is prob a simple fix if you know where to look. When charging how do you stop the screen dimming. This is annoying when in the car and has only started doing it after the latest upgrade to 4.1.1.
Have looked in settings but cannot see anything in the display and battery sections.

mmrb said:
This is prob a simple fix if you know where to look. When charging how do you stop the screen dimming. This is annoying when in the car and has only started doing it after the latest upgrade to 4.1.1.
Have looked in settings but cannot see anything in the display and battery sections.
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you want the screen to stay on the entire time the phone is charging?
if so:
Settings > Developer Options > Stay Awake (Screen will never sleep while charging)
you want that checked.

No, he wants the screen not to dim after x amount of time, which it does even if set to stay awake during charge.
Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus

Zeinzu said:
No, he wants the screen not to dim after x amount of time, which it does even if set to stay awake during charge.
Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
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ahh yes, I see what's going on now. There's no direct setting for this (that I know of), but it would be very easy to set up in Tasker.
The screen normally dims 10 seconds (or is it 15 seconds) before it shuts off. So if you normally have it the screen turn off at 1 minute, it'll dim at around 45-50 seconds. However, when the option is checked to never turn off the screen when charging, the time at which the screen dims is still based on that same setting, and still occurs 10-15 seconds when the screen would have turned off (had the stay on setting not been checked).
If you already have tasker, you should be able to set this up in just a few minutes. Set up a profile that becomes active when the USB is plugged in. When that profile is active, it starts a task that sets the screen time to something crazy (like 20 hours). and if the screen time-out is set to 20 hours, then the screen shouldn't dim until 19 hours, 59 minutes, 45-50 seconds. and then set up an exit task so that when the USB cord is unplugged, it sets the display time-out back to what you normally use (1 minute for me, but set it back to whatever you normally want).

Zeinzu is correct in what is happening. Why this has changed in the update is strange.
"Member", I appreciate your reply but for a novice like me it seems a bit in depth. Where can I get this "tasker" and I will have a go.
Thanks for all your help on this.

mmrb said:
Zeinzu is correct in what is happening. Why this has changed in the update is strange.
"Member", I appreciate your reply but for a novice like me it seems a bit in depth. Where can I get this "tasker" and I will have a go.
Thanks for all your help on this.
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Tasker is available on the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...MsIm5ldC5kaW5nbGlzY2guYW5kcm9pZC50YXNrZXJtIl0.
it can be little confusing at first, but read through the online guides, and I'd also be happy to help you get it set-up (at least with the profile/tasks I mentioned above to get you going with Tasker).

That is not the issue. When the charger is plugged in by default the phone makes a noise very X seconds which can be turned off but the screen dims and brightens as well when the charger is plugged in. This is really annoying!
Apparently the S9+ does not like my USB hub for charging. The hub even has charging only ports. When I plugged the phone into the normal ports I kept getting a pop up ever few seconds about that the computer should do with the phone. The red light would pop on and off while plugged into the usb port. When I connected the phone to a wall charger this dimming stopped.
I was also see the charging message pop on and off which I thought was quite odd. That disappeared when connected to the wall. It would appear that the phone was probing the usb for some kind of connection?

[Q] Charging burn-in concern?

May be a dumb question, but any concerned with screen burn-in from charging? Under normal use the screen isn't lit up long enough, but while charging the screen stays lit (dimmed, yes but still lit) and with a static blue ring around the edge. Just seems odd that some kind of daydream mode isn't employed.

bob_loblaw_ said:
May be a dumb question, but any concerned with screen burn-in from charging? Under normal use the screen isn't lit up long enough, but while charging the screen stays lit (dimmed, yes but still lit) and with a static blue ring around the edge. Just seems odd that some kind of daydream mode isn't employed.
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The screen is LCD not OLED so burn in isn't an issue.

I had it on the charger for about 2 hours last night and can clearly see the ring and the "moto" and "100%" text, especially on the gray background of the settings menu.

filefly said:
I had it on the charger for about 2 hours last night and can clearly see the ring and the "moto" and "100%" text, especially on the gray background of the settings menu.
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That's my concern. I thought that LCD wasn't impervious just because it wasn't OLED and it is still susceptible to damage.

You can turn the screen off while charging if you just press the button (which is on top while charging).

slaydog said:
You can turn the screen off while charging if you just press the button (which is on top while charging).
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Strange when I charged yesterday the screen did turn off. It is charging now and the button on top just dims.

Character Zero said:
Strange when I charged yesterday the screen did turn off. It is charging now and the button on top just dims.
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I honestly can't figure this thing out, lol

It would appear that the last update keeps the screen on (although dim) while charging. Another change is that putting a turned off watch in the charger turns it on.

Well that solves my question. First charge was off, 2nd and current 3rd charge is staying dim. Thanks!

If you want it off when you charge, go into "Settings-->About" and tap on build number, repeatedly until it displays "You are now a developer". Then go back to "Settings-->Developer Options" and the first option is "Stay awake when charging". You can touch it to toggle between enabled and disabled.

jermaine151 said:
If you want it off when you charge, go into "Settings-->About" and tap on build number, repeatedly until it displays "You are now a developer". Then go back to "Settings-->Developer Options" and the first option is "Stay awake when charging". You can touch it to toggle between enabled and disabled.
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just a heads up (for me anyway) - I wanted to have it ON when charging, so i did the dev mode option. Then i wanted to turn it off, and it seems disabling the option in dev options wont turn it off lol
early release wonkiness i assume

ameilius said:
just a heads up (for me anyway) - I wanted to have it ON when charging, so i did the dev mode option. Then i wanted to turn it off, and it seems disabling the option in dev options wont turn it off lol
early release wonkiness i assume
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Thanks! Weird. I wonder if it needs a reboot to take affect?

jermaine151 said:
Thanks! Weird. I wonder if it needs a reboot to take affect?
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tried everything - just gonna wait for an update and see from there

ameilius said:
tried everything - just gonna wait for an update and see from there
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Once we get root we'll be able to change this option in the build.prop file:
Code:
ro.ambient.force_when_docked=true

To turn off the screen while charging:
1. Open the Android Wear app
2. Turn on "Always On" (if it's not already)
3. Wait for the screen on the watch to dim
4. Uncheck "Always On" in the Android App
The screen will turn off until it's taken off the charger, screen is tapped, or button is pushed.

dark79 said:
To turn off the screen while charging:
1. Open the Android Wear app
2. Turn on "Always On" (if it's not already)
3. Wait for the screen on the watch to dim
4. Uncheck "Always On" in the Android App
The screen will turn off until it's taken off the charger, screen is tapped, or button is pushed.
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This worked for the LG G Watch as well. But you have to substitute "always on" with "ambient screen" with the update to 4.4w1.

kpjimmy said:
This worked for the LG G Watch as well. But you have to substitute "always on" with "ambient screen" with the update to 4.4w1.
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Whoops. Forgot about the verbage difference in the Moto360.

Found this on reddit, looks like it answers my question. Curious to see if they had the screen left fully lit while charging.
http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2gir11/charging_screen_image_burnin/

Tasker task I create to toggle the screen off automatically.

I've had it since Monday. Charging every night (~8 hours). Developer mode on, but no settings changed. No burn in. I think it's a defect.

Ambient Mode -- what's the point, and why use it?

So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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I played with Ambient Mode a little before the recent update, but battery life just wasn't sufficient to keep it on. After the update, battery life improved enough for Ambient Mode, so I switched it on. I dealt with it a couple days, then ultimately turned it off for this very reason. It just seemed clunky to me, and as you stated, I'd often glance at my wrist only to see the wrong time until suddenly the watch came fully on and updated.
I was excited for Ambient mode, but like you, I no longer see the point. I'd rather just have a user-controllable setting for "fully on" sensitivity. If I could make my 360 just a little more sensitive to my raising my wrist action, it'd be perfect without Ambient Mode.

I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.

I've seen the screen update while it was dim. I do think that it is too dim to use outside like you mentioned.

I noticed this as well. Surely just a bug or an issue with android wear that will be fixed at some point. I'm also sure they will provide a lot more features to regulate screen controls, on, off, brightness, etc in future updates. It's just a matter of time.
I look at it this way... the sensor is kind of future proof if anything. Might not be very useful now, but could have a lot of potential in the next few months or once custom ROM's start rolling out.
Android wear is still in the early stages. It can only get better. Just be patient, we are early adopters on first generation hardware.

tlxxxsracer said:
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
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Here is a way you can set the screen on all the time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55311726

knoxploration said:
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk
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Just watched mine move the minutes hand just fine in ambient mode... this is with the classic Motorola face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTpDpgYwFY

I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.

zarks said:
I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I thought it would stay on the dimmed mode the whole time too... but like you said it turns on with even the slightest rotation of the wrist now, and that means we can finally glance at the watch and see the time!
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The minuets do update in real time so idk what you're seeing?

This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.

for me, in ambient mode, the screen still turns off after a while. but it turns back on much quicker than with ambient mode off. it often takes an exaggerated bring-up-arm movement to turn on the screen with ambient off. i used to resort to tapping the screen instead. with ambient on the battery still last me a "work day". off charger at 7AM and dies around 10PM or so...battery lasts longer with stock faces compared to Facer faces...

Most developer purposes.

My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..

ws6kid said:
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
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I just started using it and noticed the screen stays on if you keep it flat horizontal, but if you turn your wrist past 45 degrees it turns off.
Maybe they added that with the update, did ambient mode used to stay on even when that watch is sideways?

Ambient is so useless for me, the screen is almost off all the time... So frustrating coming from a g watch

RunNgun42 said:
This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
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For me, I believe I have seen my watch 'get stuck' maybe once or twice where the time on the dim screen wasn't the same as I had on my computer. This could just be a difference in the clocks, as whenever I check both my phone and my dim watch together, they are the same. Like RunNgun42 said, I think it might be a thing where the proc is in sleep mode to try and save power and isn't keeping up the time as accurately as it could. Once you shake it though and the screen lights up again, the proc will come out of sleep and maintain more accurate timekeeping.

Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
And yes ambient mode still turns off when the watch is at an angle consistent with being down at your side or is completely still.

SilentAce07 said:
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
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No, you can't keep the screen on at all times out of the box, but some 3rd party software can do it...

Ambient mode is a lot quicker to wake up and react than non-ambient, it's a lot more accurate (non-ambient often stays off when I turn my arm to look at the time), it's easier to see what time it is, and it acts a lot more like a conventional watch- the display is on when you need it.
Battery drain is not a biggie, I get through the day, every day.

ambient mode not staying on, and turning off tilt doesn't work

Hey guys, wanted to see if this was an issue. I'm on the latest lollipop build on my 360 and using a Note 4 with lollipop also. In android wear settings I turn ON ambient mode, it stays on sometimes, but other times it turns completely off, I'd say ambient mode doesn't stay off most of the time. I've verified that on the watch itself it says ambient mode is off. I think I narrowed it down to if the watch is turned up, ambient mode stays on, but when I tilt the watch down the screen completely turns off.
Kind of related also is I turn off tilt to activate in android wear settings, but it still turns the watch on, specifically when ambient mode off doesn't work and the phone is not facing up and turns off. I suppose this is normal behavior and the issue remains with ambient mode not staying off.
Anyone else?

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Hey guys, wanted to see if this was an issue. I'm on the latest lollipop build on my 360 and using a Note 4 with lollipop also. In android wear settings I turn ON ambient mode, it stays on sometimes, but other times it turns completely off, I'd say ambient mode doesn't stay off most of the time. I've verified that on the watch itself it says ambient mode is off. I think I narrowed it down to if the watch is turned up, ambient mode stays on, but when I tilt the watch down the screen completely turns off.
Kind of related also is I turn off tilt to activate in android wear settings, but it still turns the watch on, specifically when ambient mode off doesn't work and the phone is not facing up and turns off. I suppose this is normal behavior and the issue remains with ambient mode not staying off.
Anyone else?
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This is normal. In ambient mode, the screen turns off after a short while. It seems a bit random. It's probably cos the battery wouldn't last throughout the day if it stayed on.
I personally find the ambient mode and tilt mode a bit annoying (especially when driving at night) so i just have them both switched off and tap the screen or button when i want to see the screen. The screen still lights up when an alert appears.

xdatastic said:
This is normal. In ambient mode, the screen turns off after a short while. It seems a bit random. It's probably cos the battery wouldn't last throughout the day if it stayed on.
I personally find the ambient mode and tilt mode a bit annoying (especially when driving at night) so i just have them both switched off and tap the screen or button when i want to see the screen. The screen still lights up when an alert appears.
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how do you turn off tilt mode?

hamdir said:
how do you turn off tilt mode?
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Android Wear -> Settings -> Moto 360 -> Uncheck Tilt to wake screen option

[Q] Moto 360 [5.1.1] Stay Awake While Charging...

Can't find another question like this one... so here goes:
Just got a Moto 360 for 149.99 USD and its great so far.
Did that force update to 5.1.1, this one worked for me: https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/3ahj1l/a_surefire_way_to_force_the_511_update/
Now I look into turning off the screen when its charging, only to run into a very strange issue...
In the developer options, which you can enable using 10 taps on the build number in about, there are two options:
1) stay awake while charging
2) burn-in protection
Burn-in protection will NOT save the check when your restart, so in essence, is useless.
However I found that using stay awake while charging DOES indeed turn off the screen, but here's the catch: you have to set it to ENABLED.
Don't believe I have ever seen a setting on android that required it to be on, to be off...
But hey, it does work, on mine at least.
Also the whole "just hit the button to make the screen go off" ONLY works in Theater Mode! And I personally dont like pushing a button to check the time.
If Theater Mode is off, it will just brighten the screen for around 2 seconds, then dim again.
Here's my question, what does that burn-in protection do anyways? Just pixel shift over time? Why can't it be enabled?
Hope this helps some people!

that setting does nothing for me
the screen stays awake regardless of ENABLED or DISABLED
funny how motorola hasn't fixed this yet

just put watch in "Theater mode" before charging
and it would switch the screen off on charger too

da_coder said:
Can't find another question like this one... so here goes:
Just got a Moto 360 for 149.99 USD and its great so far.
Did that force update to 5.1.1, this one worked for me: https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/3ahj1l/a_surefire_way_to_force_the_511_update/
Now I look into turning off the screen when its charging, only to run into a very strange issue...
In the developer options, which you can enable using 10 taps on the build number in about, there are two options:
1) stay awake while charging
2) burn-in protection
Burn-in protection will NOT save the check when your restart, so in essence, is useless.
However I found that using stay awake while charging DOES indeed turn off the screen, but here's the catch: you have to set it to ENABLED.
Don't believe I have ever seen a setting on android that required it to be on, to be off...
But hey, it does work, on mine at least.
Also the whole "just hit the button to make the screen go off" ONLY works in Theater Mode! And I personally dont like pushing a button to check the time.
If Theater Mode is off, it will just brighten the screen for around 2 seconds, then dim again.
Here's my question, what does that burn-in protection do anyways? Just pixel shift over time? Why can't it be enabled?
Hope this helps some people!
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It started on mine, in the dock. Every few minutes everything on the display jumps in size from small to large and vice visa
The staying awake feature is backwards. Crazy
Sent by entanglement.

I restarted mine after setting to enabled, also ambient / theater mode are both off.

Hi,
as ShadowVlican wrote: just enable the theater mode to switch the screen off during charging. It is also important, the you undo any changes you did in the developer menu ("stay awake while charging" and the "burn in protection" as well).
Stephan

cyvr1 said:
Hi,
as ShadowVlican wrote: just enable the theater mode to switch the screen off during charging. It is also important, the you undo any changes you did in the developer menu ("stay awake while charging" and the "burn in protection" as well).
Stephan
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Yeah, no. My screen turns off for 10 seconds then just becomes dim black with backlight again.
Is there no damn working solution?!