Enabling location services eats up the battery - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Just wanted to share my experience with my G3 (D855). Since I bought it I noticed a very rapid battery drop while the device is apparently doing nothing. I tolerated it for a bit but then decided to try and get to the bottom of it.
First I disabled auto-sync, location services, and bluetooth and immediately noticed a big improvement. Then I experimented with enabling/disabling one or the other and it seems the culprit in my case was location services.
Whenever I enable it and within a few minutes I find my battery drops a couple or more percentage points. So now I have it disabled most of the time unless I absolutely need it.
Just thought I'd share and see if anyone is having the same experience.
So is your experience the same? did you find any way to improve this?
Ahmad

where do you live? i don't konw if it's relevant, but i'm lebanese and i'm based in Paris. As soon as i landed in beirut for the summer my battery starting dying very fast. i assume it's because of the bad phone coverage and the bad gps service.
you know, maybe.

karimas said:
where do you live? i don't konw if it's relevant, but i'm lebanese and i'm based in Paris. As soon as i landed in beirut for the summer my battery starting dying very fast. i assume it's because of the bad phone coverage and the bad gps service.
you know, maybe.
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I live in Kuwait City and since I bought the G3 didn't have an opportunity to try it in another country. But I didn't think of this angle because it's a difficult one to test.

You might have some active app in the background using location services.
Roaming eats more battery.
I have GPS, WiFi, 4G and autosync on all the time all days, battery lasts 15-17 hours (sot 3.5-4.5 hrs ) with 30-40% juice left when I plug it to charge at night.

It's a known issue across Android, not just limited to the G3. There's lots to read up here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ck-nlpcollectorwakelock-t2551846/post48051661
Personally, I've left location services switched on, and my battery life is great - usually have at least 35% battery left at the end of the day, even with fairly heavy use and Google Now enabled. But I've deleted a lot of bloatware that might use up location services excessively (e.g. the preinstalled spyware MLT app) so I don't get a lot of location service wakelocks.

My location services is always on and I don't have an issue with the battery, averaging 1 day and 4.5hrs SOT

Then I think that I should audit all the installed apps that use location services and try to find the culprit.
I really want to keep location services on all the time for geotagging photos and in case I lost my phone.

Make sure the location service is battery saving mode, not the high accuracy or GPS only.

Upping the thread i have a d855 on Lollipop. Have followed the last post to ensure location service on battery saving mode however have noticed that using Google maps Google+ will trigger high battery usage instead of low battery usage. My 1st gen moto g will show all the above as low battery usage as long as on battery saving mode. Anyone else facing this?

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First full day at work ..... poor reception and more poor battery life.

Today was my first day at work since i got my Desire on Sat. So it was the day without regular charging.
Firstly, reception was poor as compared to what i was getting with Touch Pro 2. Same network (Orange), same place, less signal bars and less 3G coverage.
Secondly, unplugged phone 7 o'clock this morning, 100% charged. All day only had time for couple of calls (10-15mins). Used internet (3G when available) for max 20-30mins. Tried couple of games for 15-20 mins and at 7 o'clock at night, the battery was 15%. This is not a heavy use by my standards. Used to do a lot more on Touch Pro2 and battery used to last 2-3days. (I know the capaciy difference btw Desire and TP2 battery but still, Desire should last atleat > 24hours)
Not sure if all these issues are related to Orange ROM/Radio. Will we (on Orange) get OTA firmware update like T-mobile, which has apparently improved their battery life? If not then ...... :-(. Not satisfied with the battery life. Shame it is such a good phone but battery life and signal strength is putting me off.
Whats the fun if you have a "superphone" in your pocket but cannot use it to its full potential due to these two isuues.
Mine was the same,
But after a weeks worth of usage, its now reasonable, IE 18 hours between charges,
Fon22
I totally agree, there are other posts telling us to turn off or reduce all sorts of settings, its ridiculous that you would have to run any phone at less than its full potential just to compensate for a poor battery.
Sure you could buy a second battery but if that was necessary then they should put two in the box
If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
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If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
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Come on guys, if you have a laptop, and you turn on bluetooth, wi-fi, play some games etc, it WILL run the battery down faster. It's just common sense. Just because this phone does heaps of things, dosn't mean it will last forever. As phones get more features, they are getting worse battery life - in general. And android is a data centric device, I would get used to it, or simply turn off some synching features if you need to get through more than half a day. Or perhaps get a spare battery etc.
Just out of curiosity did you have your previous phone to constantly sync throughout the day for time, email, google account, marketplace updates, location, weather using gps, 3g, hsdpa, accelerometer etc? Remember some of these connect are activated every 5 mins or so. Will make it worse if you have poor reception. COMMON SENSE PPL!
My issue is that even after the T-Mobile update, last night I charged phone on this time and it would only get to 98% again. Then drop down quickly.
If I charge it off, It seems to be ok (although I will test this again.)
Frustrating.
My battery life is woeful (TMo uk, updated firmware). I've been trying to figure it out using Juice Plotter to record power usage. Basically, whatever I'm doing, if it's on the battery falls off a cliff - I'd say 10% per 30m and my first impression is that it makes little difference whether networking is enabled or not. This makes little sense to me, I've always found in the past that 3G is just about the most power intensive activity on the smartphone, but it's consistent with some experiences I had flashing roms on my Blackstone - some of them would just run the battery down, others would go for ages. One hypothesis is that when a phone is in that kind of "sick" power state, the drain is not really related to which facilities you're using, but something deeper - perhaps the CPU is running full throttle all the time, or something else. I have no idea what's going on right now but I know I have an unusable phone which lasts half the time my Blackstone did with heavier use. I think many others have the same problem and I wonder if there's a bad batch. Bad news if so as we'd have trouble proving it and getting exchanges.
My next step I think will be to hard reset and run it in a very basic mode for a while, maybe some of the apps are causing it.
I'm also finding out that battery life improves dramatically after the 5th 6th charge. When I first got my Desire I could barely make it through the day, after properly charging and letting it discharge all the way to 10-15% now I get 18-20h of battery life with wi-fi on non stop (but with the setting to to turn itself off after 15mins of inactivity).
I was very worried about this when I first got the phone, but now it's starting to be better and better at battery life. I know my demands from a smartphone when I buy it and if a phone get's me through the day I'm OK with that, plus I have chargers at home, in my car, at work, so it's not a problem
I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
I last charged it on Saturday afternoon. I've only had to start charging it again this morning Tuesday. I've been making a few calls, probably 10-15 minutes total. A few texts. Browsing with G and 3G, maybe a few of hours worth in total. Little bit of Bluetoothing, though that's only a couple of minutes worth. I've had it down the pub a few hours where the T-mobile signal isn't brilliant, so it will have been doing a little "shouting" to find and communicate with the nearest T-mobile mast.
But that means it's lasted a good 66 hours admittedly with fairly moderate use. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth are turned off unless needed. And it's not regularly Syncing with Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff. The only regular syncing is the weather.
Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
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Same situation as mine there.
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I'm deffo leaning now that there are faulty batteries out there causing the problem. I can get good life if I can get the battery to charge properly. but when it doesn't battery lasts hardly half a day. I don't use any apps that require automatic updates (all manual or off). But net on drains it very quickly (if I leave data on). Faulty Batteries I feel.
My Desire has a better ability to hang on to a weak signal than my other phones. I am on T-mobile. Battery life is adeqaute, in that, I can get through a day of use before a charge is needed. Will switch-off GPS and see what happens -I never had GPS on all the time on my other Smartphones.
Coming from a G1 that could barely make it through the day on standby this phone seems pretty good.
I got mine last friday it has just come off of it's third charge. I charged it for 3 hours when I got it, ran it right down >10% then left to charge up fully again.
I installed JuiceDefender and bought the UltimateJuice upgrade as soon as I got the phone.
Day 2 (with JuiceDefender) - battery lasted 13h27m, thats with WiFi, phone calls, MMS, 3g, internet browsing/showing it off to mates in the pub and then listening to an album on spotify in the car.
Considering this is a new battery and it still needs several charges before it is working at full capacity, I think that is pretty good for a smart phone! It can only get better, right?
JuiceDefender - I can't recommend this app enough, I don't want to mess about with Task Killers (that don't really save battery), I don't want to stop stuff syncing (because thats the whole point of this phone) but I want to optimize my battery life to get me through the day and this app does it so well!
I've currently got it setup to turn 2g/3g off when in standby but set to turn data back on every 5mins for 30s to allow apps to sync. You can specify a longer interval which will obviously save more battery over the course of a day. The phone connects back to a 2/3g connection so quick when you bring it out of standby so your not waiting around to get back online.
Switch on WiFi at known locations - I have this setup because at home, 3g signal is a bit patchy and it probably uses more battery constantly trying to get a 3g signal all the time, than it does if it is just connected to WiFi.
Turn data off between 2am-8am while I am sleeping.
Turn data off when battery is below 15% - with my G1 it would hit 15% just as I'd be heading home on the train in the evening, so I'd turn data off just so I could send a few texts or so I had just enough battery to make a call. So I figured I might as well use that last 15% battery for basic phone operation and give me enough battery to get home! I probably don't need this with the Desire though.
Any one else using JuiceDefender?
th3 said:
Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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WOW, can I have your battery please ...
What did u do to get this powerhouse. Was it weaker in the begining and got better with charges or was it like this from the begining?
I dont use GPS at all. Only for navigation, when in car and then it is on charge. Normal day.. no gps, no auto data connection - do it manually when internet connecttion is neede. But battery doesn't last a day, merely 12-14 hours. Charged 3 times yet, only 3 days old Desire.
I cant find juice defender in the market?
When I first got my Hero I remember my battery life being terrible, most of it was down to fiddling all the time, however over time my usage changed and the battery had been charged a lot the life was a lot better. Also there were a number of radio upgrades installed, which probably helped.
Since I've got my Desire, the "desire" to fiddle hasn't stopped and I feel as if I'm in the same situation as I was with the Hero.
My opinion is that over time the battery life will be better, as with the Hero.
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I cant find juice defender in the market?
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Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
Juice defender was missing for me a couple of hours ago. But actually, when I installed it thinkgs started to go wrong for me. May be a coincidence, or may be a conflict with some other sw.
Following shocking power drain, I have hard reset, and left it with nothing syncing and all networking disabled. As you'd expect, battery level is barely falling in standby. Now to start adding things back in and see what efects it has. First step is to spend 30 mins browsing over 3g, previously this would take out 10% of my battery.
Ramedge said:
Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
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It's not there for me either currently, neither is mybackup pro... :/

Two identical phones with massively different battery usage. What's going on?

A friend and I both have a desire, updated to the latest version of Android and running 5.09 radio. Neither of us use it extensively and I can get easily through the day on a charge, mostly having upwards of 30% battery charge left when I go to bed, while his can barely do 8 hours before needing a recharge.
He's already taken it to the store to have it looked at once and it came back performing the same.
I've been looking at his currentwidget log and the consumption seems fine to me, however the battery drain is much larger than I'd expect in return.
http://pastebin.com/0Crvm1xR
Anyone have any idea what's going on? Please help!
Are you two using same ROMs..??
I'm rooted, he's not, but I'm using basically the same thing. My battery usage hasn't changed, while upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2, his hasn't either. But his has been crap from the beginning.
Swap phones for a few days. Perhaps he's in an area where by reception is poor compared to you. The phone would use more power trying to get a better signal?
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Does he play games all the time? Does he use GPS, Bluetooth, WLAN? And you?
how does it perform in airplane mode?
Install Android System Info and take a look at the task list, CPU load should hover around 10-20% after a few seconds. If it's higher find the task and report back.
He said if he just leaves it on the shelf with sync disabled, no calls and no notifications, it gets 12 hours tops. I get 48 like that.
Does he use Live Wallpaper? I found out that if I use a plain picture instead of live wallpaper, the power drain is much lower.
Has anyone even looked at the currentwidget log?
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Has anyone even looked at the currentwidget log?
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Yep, and you're losing battery very fast in what looks to be an idle phone. Every few minutes the power drain is shooting up for a period and then fluctuating to higher than it should be in idle (between 7-70mA drain in idle means the phone isn't idle). Many services and widgets that are known as power hungry seem to be running too. Due to the logging limitations, I can't see if they are the ones causing power fluctuations or otherwise.
I mean, have you done any one hour experimentation with cell on vs. cell off to see the battery loss differences?
What about cell off, display off for an hour vs. cell on, display on for an hour - what are the percentage drops in both cases for the device?
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Can't really test like that, since he lives 150kms away. I'll see if he can lend the phone to me for a few days and I'll run both in an as identical manner as I can.
If people like andycted and bemymonkey have much spare time to reply, that would help you much since I consider them more expert in this area (they know far more than me).
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[Q] Desire Z : Really Inconsistent Speeds + Battery Issues

Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
Does anyone have an answer? I was wondering this
I have been running CM 6 since November and just recently flashed CM 7. On both ROMs, Cell Standby and Phone Idle have been very high on my list of things that are 'draining' the battery.
For example, today Cell Standby shows as 37% and Phone Idle as 30% for me.
In fact, its very rare that these two things aren't at the top of the list of things that are using the battery for me.... I've seen cell standby as high as 47% before.
I can't speak for the drainage overnight. Definitely doesn't sound normal to me, but my phone is usually on the charger overnight (have enough trouble making it through the day with the stock battery).
Have you tried using Watchdog to monitor CPU usage of apps that run in the background? You could set the notification threshold very low and see what it spits out... Good luck!
gbarayah, thanks for the post, that was helpful.
If anyone can help with the inconsistent data speeds, that'd be very helpful.
And any additional info on the battery would be great too. I recently calibrated it, and will post any additional stats.
Damn it, I forgot to try Watchdog. However, I re-calibrated the battery, let it die, charged it up, let it die, charged it up. I followed the instructions to the letter and all that.
It was at 100% when I went to sleep. Woke up 8 hours later, 74%.
Settings > Battery shows nothing high 40% for cell standby and phone idle. Everything else (Facebook, etc.) REALLY low.
Then I went to Spare Parts > Battery Usage, Partial wake usage, everything incredibly low as well..
I will try Watchdog, but could it just be a bad battery? Or maybe should I try a different ROM?
Thanks!
Not sure if 26% drain over 8 hours is normal or not... Maybe someone else can shed some light on that. My phone is usually on the charger overnight.
The only other thing I can think of that would drain the battery is if you have a bad/weak cell signal in your area. I've experienced that with some job sites where my cell signal is very bad and my battery suffers excessive drain from trying to get a better signal or connect to 3G coming from Edge.
On my week old desire Z running virtuous unity sense3.0 rom and streamlined kernal i very rarely see phone idle and radio burning battery lik you say. Radio occasionaly gets high but only wen in bad coverage areas other than thats its ok.
Battery is still rubbish though due to fact even on 2nd lowest brightness setting screen seems to burn 80%-90% battery
Just checked: phone idle:2%
Cell stanby:8%
Screen (lowest setting):70%
Not this isnt a great example as its taken over a short period of havy use but it still reflects the relative proportion of the battery draining elements in question.
Also a question, if you have a live wallpaper set where is its battery drain shown? Screen, or launcher?
Not sure what to say about the high variable speeds.
Sticking to just GSM(2G) rather than AUTO will in some cases increase the signal and battery life at the expense of slower connection speeds. As mentioned when the phone struggles to get signal the battery gets drained alot faster.
Lower the refresh intervals of all the apps to the maximum period of time or a reasonable amount like 12 hours for FB for Sense, HTC Sense and Weather and 4 hours or Never (to make it on-demand) for Facebook.
Setting the Wi-fi sleep policy to "Never when connected" may make it on-demand too - when an app needs to update Wi-fi gets turned on again
If they have "Use wireless networks" checked to allow the clock-weathers mini-widget to update then they should try removing said clock and re-adding it, but search for the city when doing so. It'll provide them with a general outlook for their entire city and not force it to download and update the information for wherever they are whilst out and about. E.g if you were in London and went from Westminster to Peckham, it may update as you pass through each borough.
Live wallpapers and masses of widgets that need to constantly update are nice and everything but they can also drain the battery.
Think of these suggestions as ways to cycle the battery as well as save it.
I can't think of anything else to add.
I'm using Cyanogenmod 7 and it's pretty damn good. What do you think is the best ROM with Gingerbread if it's more lightweight and easier on the battery? (I honestly don't think the ROM accounts for the 25% battery loss but we'll see)
MIUI or mexiDroid for me?
By the way, could it just be a bad battery? I was thinking about picking one of these up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940263
$8 and people said it's okay.. What do you think?
Thanks, and I JUST calibrated recently, so once again I will leave phone off overnight and report.
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As for the network issues, I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
I believe it was the Speedtest app itself that was messed up. Like I said earlier, I don't have live wallpapers (just info) on, and also NO GPS unless using Navigation.
Well, Speedtest was connecting to WICHITA, KANSAS. I AM IN NEW JERSEY. WTH??!!
Anyway, so I'm going to keep GPS (satellites) on, it connects to NJ, and Voila, GREAT SPEEDS!
HSPA about 3.5/1.0 DL/UL
HOORAY! Network problem fixed!!!
Only issue is battery still D:
Honestly, I think it may be a bad battery. Partial wake usage doesn't show any app going nuts.. Every refresh interval is like 4 hours. And I use Advanced Task Killer to kill all apps before going to bed. I downloaded "Watchdog," let's see
gyromanx55 said:
Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
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well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection
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well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection
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WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)
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WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)
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I have auto brightness but I stay in office and not turn it on much (have to work though ) so the display isn't on much (when i said HIGHEST, it means highest in the list )
I have to phone connected to wifi all day but rarely use it
Mainly use the phone to text and talk less and 1/hr/day
Just try left the phone unused (stand by - airplane mode) for one day, drop about 20% or so
Its seems like its getting a little better.. only lost 10% overnight. Guess its calibrating
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Galaxy Note 2 Battery Life

Hello guys.
I've been reading these forums for a few months now and find it very very helpful in configuring my device. It's just now that i decided to sign up so i can be part of this great community.
This is my first ever post and i would like to get help regarding my battery life.
Ive read a few articles about battery saving and also from forums where people usually get more than a day's worth of battery life. That got me wondering why i only get around 8-10 hours average considering i only use it very lightly as im usually busy at the office. My actual usage time range about 60% of those 10 hours when i use the phone during breaks.
Here are example screenshots of my daily usage:
Here are some details about my configuration:
Brightness set to auto, most of the time at 75% level
Wifi, bluetooth, gps always off
Haptic feedback set to minimum
Mobile data always on and set to WCDMA only, area where im at is usually weak peaking at 2 bars of H and H+ signal strength
Gmail set to push notify
A few apps and widgets set to sync after every few hours(accuweather, flipboard)
Ive been considering getting an extra battery because of this but i really want to make sure first whether i could still do something or whether im doin something wrong thateads to the battery draining too fast.
So please if you have any more tips i could use, please help me out on this.
I thank you in advance.
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Also here and additional screenshot to go with the two previous screenshots i posted. It says here ive only had the screen on for 3 hours.
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Their battery lasts whole day long. It means that they get 10 hours of screen on time only. Not 24 hours.
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Yeah. But in my case the 10 hours is the total life of the battery from the time it is charged until it dies. I'd be lucky if i even get 4 hours screen time out of it.
Do you have an idea why this is so?
Im guessing its because of the weak signal where im at and the fact that i set my phone to search for WCDMA only. Although im not sure whether this is really the culprit. I'll try setting the network mode to auto for now and see if anything changes.
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Looks like it.
Try better battery status.
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Well after i changed it to auto it improved a bit. Its currently at 14% after 11 1/2 hours with 4 1/2 hours of screen on time. The phone stayed on full edge signal for most of the time (which kind of sucks because internet became painfully slow on edge).
But still, i think this is far too short when compared to those who can get it to more than 24 hours battery and more than 10 hours of screen on time.
Is it possible that i have a defective battery?
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Do you have locations services and etc (all 3 options) checked in the maps settings?
I don't get near as good battery life and my phone spends a lot of time awake. This appears to be do to google maps constantly updating my location. I would turn this off, but then i would loose google now functions.
Any help would be great.
BlueGoldAce said:
Do you have locations services and etc (all 3 options) checked in the maps settings?
I don't get near as good battery life and my phone spends a lot of time awake. This appears to be do to google maps constantly updating my location. I would turn this off, but then i would loose google now functions.
Any help would be great.
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I have only two of them checked(Use Wireless Networks and Location and Google Search). I have GPS disabled. i only turn GPS on when i'm traveling to an unfamiliar place which is not too often.
i got exactly the same problem, whats your firmware?
since i updated the phone to 4.1.2 the battery drains alone, every 8 hours it discharges 25% without using the phone, i am lucky if i get 5 hours of screen. The android os is the one draining all the battery in my phone. On 4.1.1 i could get 7 hours of screen time with 20+hours overall.
yudodis said:
i got exactly the same problem, whats your firmware?
since i updated the phone to 4.1.2 the battery drains alone, every 8 hours it discharges 25% without using the phone, i am lucky if i get 5 hours of screen. The android os is the one draining all the battery in my phone. On 4.1.1 i could get 7 hours of screen time with 20+hours overall.
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i got 4.1.2.
I can't compare mine to 4.1.1 because when i bought mine it got updated to 4.1.2 after a few hours.
having to charge at least two times a day really negates the otherwise great features of this phone.
I really hope we figure this out. I'll try UtkarshGuptas suggestion using Better Battery Stats and let you know what i find out.
I did they and found Google location services is the culprit.
I'm am referring to the locations services found under location setting in the actual Google maps app. I believe turning of location reporting may disrupt Google now features. Google locations devices is reading out as the main reason for nine consistent partial wake locks on better battery stats.
I'll try turning these features off and awe how it affects battery life and Google now tomorrow.
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battery life sucks on Mine :/
BlueGoldAce said:
I did they and found Google location services is the culprit.
I'm am referring to the locations services found under location setting in the actual Google maps app. I believe turning of location reporting may disrupt Google now features. Google locations devices is reading out as the main reason for nine consistent partial wake locks on better battery stats.
I'll try turning these features off and awe how it affects battery life and Google now tomorrow.
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Please let us know.
after doin some tests with bbs i found the wakelock is mhl_wakelock,
First off, forget all the battery programs. Factory default your phone and add an apk at a time and use. You'll be able to tell what apk is the problem with a lil testing. Slow process yes but pretty straight forward and to the point. I do have a Note 2 and have no battery issues being rooted and having tons of programs, etc. Basically, I use and abuse my device as per my job and still get a day and a half out of the battery.
People who can get 24hr coupled with 8hr screen time most likely have their phone on low brightness and on WIFI not data.
I got a new battery and its still lasts the same as the other. Yeah it may be because of the mobile data always on that eats up my battery.
Problem is my data connection is my primary internet source i dont always have wifi hotspots. So i might just have to live with the short battery life or learn to turn off my data when i dont need it.
I'll still try looking for other things that contribute to the battery being drained though.
Thanks everyone.
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MohJee said:
People who can get 24hr coupled with 8hr screen time most likely have their phone on low brightness and on WIFI not data.
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I have GPS disabled, auto brightness (but fairly high level) and that improved battery life quite a bit. I then changed kernel to NEAK kernel, reduced the voltage levels for the CPU and that further improved battery life. I can get a full 24 hours on one charge and with normal (?) usage). With the new kernel I can also modify the charging current to a slightly higher level which reduces the time to bring to a full charge.
All in all not too bad but to expect more than 24 hours is unrealistic in my opinion as it is a big handful of electronics!
Not sure what you guys are are doing different. This is my first full month with my note and the battery is a beast. GPS is enabled at all times but all other syncs are disabled. That's just from previous experience. Sync will always drain the battery. So mine is off. I went as far as removing all the extra chargers around my office and home. .now I only need one. And I alsi don't see a need for an extended battery unless I'm going to be away from civilization for a few days. By the way..that was the only time I've killed my battery..kinda. see screenies
--I forgot about brightness- mine is set to 50% and 4G/LTE ..if the device is always searching for it, it will kill your battery. I turn it off at the office as much as I can.
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I get between 6-7 hours of on screen time on mine.
Using dark backgrounds really helped the bettery life for me. I use a dark wallpaper for touchwiz, whatsapp, and also carbon as my twitter client.
Using Perseus kernel also helped because it doesn't ramp up the cpu as high as the stock kernel.
Wanamlite rom.
Brightness set to lowest at home. 25-50% when outdoors.
Two MS exchange emails set to push.
I use wifi all the time unless it's not available I switch to HSPA+. what a waste of a paid data plan
Google now disabled because it's a battery hog. location services kept on though.

Question Bartery drain with LTE

Hi,
I bought the phone in November 2022. Since the day one I experienced issues with battery life but I thought that the phone needs some time to update itself etc. It was loosing around 3-4% in deep sleep which makes around 20%-30% during an usual night. I mean that's a lot compared to my previous phones.
After a month I started changing different settings to check what is happening. No app or setting seems to be draining the battery at least it's not shown in phone setting and AccuBattery which I'm using.
I found out that changing services from LTE to 3G improves the performance dramatically. 5% during a night. I know that LTE drains battery faster than 3G but come on it's between 6 to 10 times better with 3G that LTE.
I already filled a complaint with the shop I bought the phone in but they didn't find no issues with it. I think it must be some kind of a service or process that it's draining it but I don't how to find it and fix it.
Please help, it's driving me nuts!
You need to debloat and change a bunch of settings to get a decent sot and idle drain. With normal use sot in 24h total ("normal use" is of course different for each). Not sure if attaching links here is allowed but here is debloat list and the battery tips. Have at it.

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