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1gb of ram or 512mb?

In the settings menu it says that this device has 1gb of ram. But when I open the running services under applications, there's only a total of 512mb ram. Were the other 512mb of ram? I mean I could understand if there wasLike 800mb as there has to be something reserved for the gpu and system tasks, but 512mb is too, much.

It has 1gb of ram. The "missing" ram could be used for the OS, tasks, running programs etc.. The box says 1gb of ram as well.

yes but I'm sure the os does not use 512mb of ram

Settings > About Tablet > Device Information shows RAM size: 1GB. Given that it is an nVidia chipset, I wouldn't put it past them to utilize half of that for the OS and graphics processing, actually. No real indicators as to what the 512MB of RAM is really being used for, though.

same issue on the A500 I think its dedicated to video

512m is too much for video ram and os ram. The os still uses about 100mb of ram on boot? So some of the 512mb of ram is locked out for some reason?

Did anyone ever figure out why it reports only 512 in the settings menu?
I just bought this tab a few days ago and that was one of the first things i noticed, i wondered if it was defective...

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The reported amount of memory is fixed in ICS.

Hey littleemp,
Thanks for the screenshot. That's not actually where we are looking.
The Device Information page in HC also reports 1GB.
Its in the Settings --> Applications --> Running Services
If you add up the used space and free space, it doesn't come anywhere close to 1GB

Elixir 2 says 725,5 MB
Also shows very different thing about free memory (80÷100MB less) from that reported in settings/applications.
Sent from my A100

I've got about 750 mb
I took a look at my settings for running apps when I saw this post. My tab seems to have about 750mb of ram. I am running the new ics leak though maybe that's why. I can definitely see the OS taking up about 250mb of ram.

Get more storage on device by moving apps to system partition

I've tried to move most of my apps to the ROM (system/apps) partition so that I can have more room for the media on the storage partition but some apps like music and poweramp don't seem to work.
Are there any guidelines to know which apps would work in this way?
I used a file manager to do this. Ghost Commander using root mode.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

I cant answer your question but i dont think you get any benefit to moving the apps from one place to another....
From this link....
With the unified storage model we introduced in Honeycomb, we share your full 32GB (or 16GB or whatever) between app data and media data. That is, no more staring sadly at your 5GB free on Nexus S when your internal app data partition has filled up -- it's all one big happy volume.

Im using AOKP ROM but not sure that matters.
I gained free space on internal and lost space on system as reported by TiBu . The low storage warning went away also.
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Some apps work some dont. I'm just moving APKs. Anything else to help apps that aren't working on the ROM partition?
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I'm not really grasping the point here.. I mean, most apps are only ~3mb or so. Is moving a few of them over to the /system partition really going to solve your storage issues? That's like one song per app transferred.
To each his own, I suppose.

But the storage is effectively all one partition... and the apps are so small...

Some apps like games are 10mb and even larger.
Yes there is not a lot to gain but I want to use the ~500mb free space on the ROM partition.
Those on Verizon might not care but 16GB is not much for the GSM version.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

rye&ginger said:
Yes there is not a lot to gain but I want to use the ~500mb free space on the ROM partition.
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Very true, I think it is ridiculous to put a permanent warning out if you still got 500Mb of free space. My Nexus One don't even has that much storage combined and only starts bugging me when at 20MB and less. I could live with the warning sign, but stopping synchronization with my services is a huge fail by the OS.

DirectoryBind works on Note II, Get more space for your stuff!!

It's no apps2sd, but it works for now with some draw backs. Honestly I'm looking forwards to getting the Apps2ExtSD2 working on these things. Seems a bit more stable and less confusing. I'll explain the confusing part in a sec...
Anyway, you can get the app and read all about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262 and major thanks to slig for this! Send him some thanks as well if you like this!
Next, follow this guide, kindly written by bala_gamer for the S3; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550
It basically tells you how to set the directories correctly so that it works with our phones and how to get started in setting up the directories.
I recommend moving the Android folder, the gameloft folder, and any other large directories, such as CoPilot maps.
Proof that it works...
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If you do the math there... I have 10.95gb total and 8.14gb free meaning I'm only using 2.81gb of the internal storage... yet when you add up the applications and misc files you get a whopping 10.56gb. And as you can see, i've got some rather large games installed:
So far the phone hasn't given me any errors about being out of space. And note, my SD card says I'm using 18.28gb. I do have a few gb worth of music and misc files on it along with everything else. Oh, and the scandisk 64gb extreme card works perfectly in this phone, even when formatted to exFAT.
So far the one draw back I've found is that large games slow down a bit on the loading. For example, Nova3 starts up in a few minute vs <1 before this. I'm assuming this is attributed to the fact that while it's an "extreme" card, its still not as fast as the built in, plus there's probably a small lag due to the directory binding.
All my games still work like normal from what I can tell. Haven't tried every single one of them yet. But Nova3, and CoPilot work as if nothings changed (minus what I just mentioned about the slowness).
Now... the confusing part... so technically you do not have to pick the option to unbind when connected to usb. You can still browse the external and internal memory on your computer. BUT, while the space will show accurately, the folders will not. For example, if I goto /extsdcard/dirctorybinder/Android/ it only shows a few config files. If I goto /storage/Android/ it shows all the game files and says its 6gb+ in size.
You can avoid that by click the "handle usb connection". Then everything shows like it should. but this may cause a few issues if any apps are running that use a directory you moved. You could take the time and set each one up, one by one for only the large games that you need to move and know you wont normally use while plugged into the computer.
Hope this helps people who were suffering from the small storage space problem on these phones!

Always Awake

I need info on how to solve this issue.
In the battery history it shows that the phone is always awake.

rockypr said:
I need info on how to solve this issue.
In the battery history it shows that the phone is always awake.
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You didn't post your battery stats but sound like you have a rogue application. The list may show an app using a high percentage of battery but what you're looking for is stay awake time. The app may not be at the very top but possibly consuming enough % to rival screen, Android or Android OS. Just tap the app on the list to see it's stay awake time.
Once you find the application keeping the phone awake. Decide if you need it. If not, freeze or remove if it's not a core app. Otherwise, clear data and cache for the application and restore it manually and see if it behaves.
If still not allowing deep sleep, try clearing data and cache again then removing the application and installing again. If still not sleeping, you may have to wipe user data. But if it's an application that has an update, you can remove the one in system if it's not a core application. See this link for apps safe to remove or freeze. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56201863&postcount=3

I have an app called Index Service that is consuming battery
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rockypr said:
I have an app called Index Service that is consuming battery
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micro SD card or contents? Haven't had this issue but found this link
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ioGICQ&usg=AFQjCNH6rd5Z2TIXUhn4k3GsBrodnLK-DQ
One poster mentioned a new 64GB sdcard installed caused same issue; I wonder if he had tried formatting to something other than exFAT? I read somewhere that 64GB and 128GB should only be formatted exFAT for Note 4.
Edit: the 64 and 128GB micro sdcard most likely ships new with exFAT format; I know that I didn't have to format my Samsung EVO 64GB sdcard.

Is cpu-z accurate?

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1.4 free ram out of 4gbs? What?
I disabled and uninstalled all bloatwares no recent apps opened
Only cpu z is this for real? ?

Whats wrong with that?

1.4gb is plenty of free ram, why do you need more?

I know but why? 2.3gbs of used ram for what? Display?os?and what?

2639 MB
I saw this and wondered about it so I got cpu-z from the play store to check it out myself. Mine says 2639 MB free. Check your auto start and see what is set up to run automatically.

t0per666 said:
I know but why? 2.3gbs of used ram for what? Display?os?and what?
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Android and hardware, trust me when i say this, the more you use the better is.

2150(54%) free for me. ROM Prism BareBone+Project T kernel.
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Memory usage in android isn't as you know on a standard PC. Android OS uses to free RAM when is needed. If not need it use to maintain apps previously opened in RAM to successively opens them faster. I know this is a really easy explanation. To know more in deep the Android memory management you have to study it from official SDK manuals. (I got 1.7 gb of free RAM)
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the flipside would be too much unused ram.
*think the recent samsung fiasco where it was force closing every app the moment you exited it*

The more ram available, the more ram an operating system could and should use. A certain amount should be free for new threads and tasks, as well as timer-initiated background tasks, but the more ram you have the more the system can put things into it and out of a swap file or cache. So, for our devices, having that much ram means that most, if not all, of the common open operating system components are put into ram and stay there. Then it loads applications as you open them, and will only clear them out if a) you run out of ram or b) you manually close it/stop app. It used to be that, back in the old days of operating systems, there wasn't as much automated memory management to keep things smoothly running. Things pre-Windows XP had a nasty habit of gobbling up ram for things that aren't even being used and then not release it. For Android, though, and especially at this point in its existence, our devices have plenty, which results in the smooth and hiccup-free experience we get using the Zenfone 2!
There, all my years of IT experience contributed to something today.

Thanks for the Infos! now i know