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After the Verizon update, my phone is way faster then root. I also decided to completely start over and upgrade my phone. I haven't tried to root the phone yet. Just curious if others have noticed a difference? It could just be that my phone was f&%$ed up since this was the first time ever rooting. Would make a good poll question, slower, same faster?
I felt the difference from 2.1 to 2.2.. Did you upgrade from 2.1?
Way faster than root? Huh?
How long were you on the previous ROM?
I've noticed a full wipe makes a HUGE difference in performance or even just clearing out old texts and the Dalvik.
hEaTLoE said:
I've noticed a full wipe makes a HUGE difference in performance or even just clearing out old texts and the Dalvik.
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+1 on that, especially the texts when you start getting above 400-500. I remember when I had the Touch Pro 2... after about 200 of them the phone would REALLY slow down..
Every new rom feels fast initially. You really got to have the rom for a solid week or two before you can make an accurate comparison.
Too many variables to pin down why it's now faster. I went from 2.1 to 2.2 then rooted. I've been rooted since incredible was first broken but I am a NEWBIE. I also had issues with my phone such as SD Card would not load when charging. Also random reboots after I rooted that I reported but could never get right. I tried to follow the procedures each time I put the new Rom on, wiping data, rom, cache but could never get things stable. This of course is no scientific evidence but my phone is probably at least double the speed when I had the rooted rom. Anyway I will wait for the new Verizon maintenance patch to be broken and try again. In any case just to get the speed and the SDcard loading all the time makes me happy I'm back before root. I do miss my special font and being able to do a full backup. If I could do a "run as" like in windows just to be able to run certain approved programs I would be happy. No offense to anyone, I know the Rom developers put a lot of work into what they do. I will root again! (lol) So since I am a newbie, may I ask everyone is there something like a "run as" command in this phone form of Linux?
I have hours upon hours of automation in my phone for my business.
I'm so content with the first leaked stock rom, I can only image redoing all this work because I need a physically different phone for a business solution... At this moment, I can't imagine what that would be. But I may never swap another rom on this phone.. And I may not envy another rom.. Maybe
Over the past 2 weeks, I have tried to research the answers to my questions, but could barely find anything on this particular subject. So it's my first time posting to this forum, and my situation is a little embarrassing. I have had my htc evo for about 1 1/2 years, and I finally decided to root it 2 weeks ago. I've been with sprint for 6 years, and am on the unlimited data family plan, as well as the sprint hotspot feature on my phone, which I pay them 30 dollars additionally every month. I pretty much exclusively use my phone for all tasks and browsing and downloading etc, so I didn't get this feature for the "wireless tethering" , I actually got it so I could discontinue my home wireless internet through cox communications, so my phone is my only wifi source at home. I almost never use an actual pc!
I rooted my evo for 2 reasons mainly: 1) I am sort of an app addict, and I needed to free some space on my phone. I especially love using different keyboards ( which are often very large files). 2) I love customizing my home screens, but want to be able to use icons from icon packs such as crazy home's, with ADW launcher etc. I did a factory data reset on my phone before rooting, and I think I backed up all my apps to my laptop... but I wanted to start fresh anyway, so have not bothered to restore them from my pc to my phone.
Two days before I rooted my phone, Sprint temporarily disconnected my account do to Past due payment. I'm not going to get into the details, But I can't afford to pay off my balance until May. It is what it is, I'm not whining or complaining, times are a little tough for me financially and i just have to deal with not being able to make calls or text for a month. Lol, it's harder than I thought! It's pathetic how dependent my family has become on cell phones and texting for communication. We don't even have a land line. Just to give you a quick background, I didn't even know what sd card was, or a usb cable, before I got my htc evo. I'm not tech savvy at all, But when I first learned what this phone could do I was hooked. I have a laptop at home, But I never use it because a few keys on the keyboard are broken. As a matter of fact, The first time I actually plugged my phone into my pc, was when I rooted it!. I used the unrevoked 3 method, which was fairly straightforward. Because I have no data access right now, I was unable to update my profile etc. And of course, without data access I cannot take advantage of the free wireless tether.
My main question is, did I make a mistake in rooting my phone while not having network access? Right now, if I'm not in a wifi area I basically can't do much with my phone. I downloaded a few apps that allow free calling over a wireless connection, and facebook chat,etc... so I can communicate with my family as long as I'm in a wifi zone. But, I have been afraid to do anything else with my phone because I wanted to do a little research on this. I know some of you are probably thinking, why didn't she research it before she rooted? Lol, I would be saying the same thing! I didn't even think about it until I was done routing and it told me to update my profile. Since then I've been a little freaked. I'm hoping I didn't Make a bad choice. I just wanted to the able to access a few icon packs lol.
Is there anything I should know, or have done differently? Or does it make no difference at all? I guess basically what I'm getting at, is can I go ahead and reset my phone again and start flashing roms, just like I would if I had network access?
Again, please forgive me if I sound ignorant in this matter... because I am. Any advice will be much appreciated.
You can start flashing roms as normal. You didn't make a bad choice rooting without data access, because whether you do or don't doesn't make a different. i would say just make a back up of your apps in titanium backup, then backup your rom before flashing.
And you can pm me if you need any help.
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I would say to reflash ur rom but it might not work try to go back to the sense rom if u have it backed up once u do that update everything under ur settings nd updates nd if it still don't work the only other thing I know u can do is unroot it and take it to.sprint so thay can look it
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Over the past 2 weeks, I have tried to research the answers to my questions, but could barely find anything on this particular subject. So it's my first time posting to this forum, and my situation is a little embarrassing. I have had my htc evo for about 1 1/2 years, and I finally decided to root it 2 weeks ago. I've been with sprint for 6 years, and am on the unlimited data family plan, as well as the sprint hotspot feature on my phone, which I pay them 30 dollars additionally every month. I pretty much exclusively use my phone for all tasks and browsing and downloading etc, so I didn't get this feature for the "wireless tethering" , I actually got it so I could discontinue my home wireless internet through cox communications, so my phone is my only wifi source at home. I almost never use an actual pc!
I rooted my evo for 2 reasons mainly: 1) I am sort of an app addict, and I needed to free some space on my phone. I especially love using different keyboards ( which are often very large files). 2) I love customizing my home screens, but want to be able to use icons from icon packs such as crazy home's, with ADW launcher etc. I did a factory data reset on my phone before rooting, and I think I backed up all my apps to my laptop... but I wanted to start fresh anyway, so have not bothered to restore them from my pc to my phone.
Two days before I rooted my phone, Sprint temporarily disconnected my account do to Past due payment. I'm not going to get into the details, But I can't afford to pay off my balance until May. It is what it is, I'm not whining or complaining, times are a little tough for me financially and i just have to deal with not being able to make calls or text for a month. Lol, it's harder than I thought! It's pathetic how dependent my family has become on cell phones and texting for communication. We don't even have a land line. Just to give you a quick background, I didn't even know what sd card was, or a usb cable, before I got my htc evo. I'm not tech savvy at all, But when I first learned what this phone could do I was hooked. I have a laptop at home, But I never use it because a few keys on the keyboard are broken. As a matter of fact, The first time I actually plugged my phone into my pc, was when I rooted it!. I used the unrevoked 3 method, which was fairly straightforward. Because I have no data access right now, I was unable to update my profile etc. And of course, without data access I cannot take advantage of the free wireless tether.
My main question is, did I make a mistake in rooting my phone while not having network access? Right now, if I'm not in a wifi area I basically can't do much with my phone. I downloaded a few apps that allow free calling over a wireless connection, and facebook chat,etc... so I can communicate with my family as long as I'm in a wifi zone. But, I have been afraid to do anything else with my phone because I wanted to do a little research on this. I know some of you are probably thinking, why didn't she research it before she rooted? Lol, I would be saying the same thing! I didn't even think about it until I was done routing and it told me to update my profile. Since then I've been a little freaked. I'm hoping I didn't Make a bad choice. I just wanted to the able to access a few icon packs lol.
Is there anything I should know, or have done differently? Or does it make no difference at all? I guess basically what I'm getting at, is can I go ahead and reset my phone again and start flashing roms, just like I would if I had network access?
Again, please forgive me if I sound ignorant in this matter... because I am. Any advice will be much appreciated.
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Not being able to update the profile won't make any difference at all, if you have no data connection to begin with. Once you're able to get things situated, and you need to get your phone activated again, you'll just need to make sure you're on a Sense rom before you activate it again. No worries, you can flash away all you want, with or without a data connection.
Also, how have you had your Evo for 1 1/2 years!? They were released June 4th last year!
Ha ha really? I feel like I've had this evo for years.. since the day I got it I've been like a kid in a candy store! Thanks for the reassurance everyone. Unfortunately, I've just encountered the problem with the SD card not being recognized by my phone or my PC. According to my research, I'm supposed to find this file on my SD card under android. secure and delete it? But my PC isn't recognizing my card, and my apps that are on SD are seen by my phone. I get a force close when attempting to unmount SD. My market apps won't install or uninstall.... ugh. Like an idiot,I never did a Nandroid backup. I really don't care about losing my app backups though,I just don't want to mess up my phone. All this information is overwhelming me... Nandroid this, titanium that, recovery boot, drivers, and on and on.... so much advice is outdated I don't know which to follow. I'm a dummy! That's why I need my smartphone to help me out lol.... how do I fix this?
Eek....I just saw a gigantic spider.... creepy..
in a nutshell, you can do anything with your phone, without data access, or service.
I rooted and flashed the ROM I did for my old Moment, after it had been turned off so I could sell it.
Now that you are rooted, I uses Titanium backup for all my apps/data. I only backup actually apps, not HTC stuff, etc, or anything that comes with the ROM you flash.
You can tell this becasue the apps are in white lettering in the Backup menu.
At least they are on mine, and I use all default settings.
rooted without data access
Thanks everyone...I fixed my problem with my sd card, turns out mine had gotten corrupted so I will deal with that later.I just put in my other card and Im back in business....lost all my personal info though. Thats the least of my worries. Someone said I can do anything on my phone without data service, but they must mean only when I am in Wifi zone right ? See, unfortunately, I dont live in a populated area. I have no wifi access at home and there are hardly any free wifi spots in town. At home, I can see that there are wifi networks around (linkys via cox communications), but they are locked. Oh, thats another question i had....why do people lock their wifi? I never did, and I have no problem letting others access mine when they need it. Should I? If so, why?I am so sorry if I sound clueless again, but Im learning a little more every day thanks to people like you!
So as far as communication, Im out of luck. A couple months ago,I had an issue connecting to the network while i was at home, but i just turned on my sprint hotspot and i had instant network access so i couldnt call or text, but i was able to get a hold of my daughter on facebook lol. How did my phone do that? I dont get it. I am going to a couple of those prepaid phones tomorrow so we can make calls in the meantime.
As far as navigation, any tips on how to find any apps that dont need network access that work well? I found a couple, but they seem so complicated to set up. And, I tried Nettalk for making calls over wifi but it only works sometimes. I read about apps that offer free sms and calls over wifi but I couldnt find one that was stable.
I cant wait to get my service restored..I didnt realize how much I depended on it. I still havent flashed any ROMS...Im a little nervous. I still dont totally understand what is different about my evo now tthat its rooted, but i plan to educate myself once I get full access to wifi again.
Any advice/tips is very much appreciated. Thanks again for this useful forum.
Hi All,
So I am looking to root a phone for the first time, and I recently changed carriers and upgraded to a new phone (DNA).
I have an old EVO 4G and I am currently using basically as a game device and some e-mail / web stuff.
First, my question: Before I start the ROOT process, one thing I am curious about, is my PC setup. I have heard that Anit-Virus can freak out about some of the tools used to perform the ROOTing process, so I plan to build a stand alone PC to do this with. Can I use a Virtual Machine, or does the machine need a solid connection to the USB port you are connecting the phone too. By "solid" I mean that most VMs kind of share the USB with the Host and the VM, and I wanted to know if that could create a problem in the rooting process.
Second, need advice on which ROM would best serve my current usage. I've been looking at UBERSONIC by frinkinjerms because it is specifically designed for inactive devices, but I don't use my phone as a media device, so I don't know if that is the ROM best suited to me.
Are there any other ROMs that are well suited to in-active devices? There are so many to go through and so far I haven't seen any others that specifically talk about that. I love the idea of all the cellular junk ripped out, but I still want the messaging and web stuff.
Thanks,
Wrayth Osu
Hi everyone,
First of all, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone here for being such a great resource in the past. I have performed many roots via guides on here.
My real question, I was super excited to get KitKat and immediately accepted the AT&T Software Update...2 hours later I realized that my Portable WIFI Hotspot app was no longer functional due to the upgraded OS. I figured a factory reset would be fine since it wasnt KitKat when it first came to me, sadly it wasn't.
Does anyone have any advice for a work around? I have unlimited data with AT&T right now and do not wish to sacrafice that for hotspot services but it is a very convienent feature to have when I am on the go. I've thought of rooting, reverting (which didn't work), and search hours in the app store testing different ones.
Any and all advice/suggestions will be greatly appreciated
Thank you in advance guys and gals!:good:
There is no way around it without rooting, until they create another app, unless there is one that I don't know about. You need a modified framework file in the system directory, which cannot be accessed without root permissions. I'm guessing that you were using foxfi, like so many others around here. I might be wrong.
And next time, please do some research before accepting these toys, I mean OTAs. (I keep calling them toys, because the only reason I see why we so quickly rush to these OTAs is to play with them.) There is plenty of useful information here at XDA for you. Don't just look to fix your problem and then run. Some of the purposes of OTAs are to prevent rooting and block tethering (Foxfi has been broken a couple of times). When you do some more reading, you will see all of the problems that many are having around here after jumping to play with this new toy, I mean update, without waiting or doing enough research.
Personally, one of the best things I have done with my phone is not accepting this latest OTA.
ya, I completely regret not doing my usual research. I thought I read somewhere that you cant root this current version as well. If you can root, if someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it, if not I can take a look around after work
The app was Portable WIFI Hotspot
Here you go if you need to root. It's in the general section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
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My youngest son wants an iPod Touch for Christmas - and due to some unfortunate circumstances i just don't have the cash to drop on a device that he may not take care of anyway. He has a Samsung Tab3 7" kids edition (orange one) currently and uses it often but it's not exactly portable and mom is tired of being a sherpa with it in her purse.
I have an old HTC Evo 4g from sprint that I want to turn into a wifi only tablet for the time being. Eventually i may try to get it over to Boost or similar but for now here's where I'm at.
Sprint network flash, current android version 2.3.5, baseband version 2.15.00.01.15, kernal 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68
build 5.07.651.6
software 5.07.651.6
browser WebKit/533.1
no PRI or PRL loaded currently - this phone is deact from sprint when I upgraded the device
Again, i'm an utter newb when it comes to messing with the guts and OS of the phone.
I intend on putting a 32 or 64 Gb SD card in it for him to store apps and photos/music.
I'll use one of the many intermediary apps to allow him to video chat with his buddies who are IOS families (gag...)
can someone please steer me in the right direction to reduce some of this devices functionality and possibly steer me to a functional ROM for what i'm trying to do? I've seen a bunch of ROMs available, but all of the lists fail to mention what funtionality these ROMs represent.
Your help will be much appreciated...
Anyone?
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My youngest son wants an iPod Touch for Christmas - and due to some unfortunate circumstances i just don't have the cash to drop on a device that he may not take care of anyway. He has a Samsung Tab3 7" kids edition (orange one) currently and uses it often but it's not exactly portable and mom is tired of being a sherpa with it in her purse.
I have an old HTC Evo 4g from sprint that I want to turn into a wifi only tablet for the time being. Eventually i may try to get it over to Boost or similar but for now here's where I'm at.
Sprint network flash, current android version 2.3.5, baseband version 2.15.00.01.15, kernal 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68
build 5.07.651.6
software 5.07.651.6
browser WebKit/533.1
no PRI or PRL loaded currently - this phone is deact from sprint when I upgraded the device
Again, i'm an utter newb when it comes to messing with the guts and OS of the phone.
I intend on putting a 32 or 64 Gb SD card in it for him to store apps and photos/music.
I'll use one of the many intermediary apps to allow him to video chat with his buddies who are IOS families (gag...)
can someone please steer me in the right direction to reduce some of this devices functionality and possibly steer me to a functional ROM for what i'm trying to do? I've seen a bunch of ROMs available, but all of the lists fail to mention what funtionality these ROMs represent.
Your help will be much appreciated...
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no clue
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update to this thread - i'm rooted now, unlocked from sprint, and things are going relatively well. I started a more relevant thread specific to a wifi only rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/finally-rooted-want-to-load-wifi-rom-t3276339
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update to this thread - i'm rooted now, unlocked from sprint, and things are going relatively well. I started a more relevant thread specific to a wifi only rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/finally-rooted-want-to-load-wifi-rom-t3276339
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Ubersonic is a good wifi, just installed it last night and so far so good. You can turn on Wifi and use it like a tablet, but I didn't see any way to control/turn on/off the regular phone antenna.
my impression of ubersonic is that it basically shut down all the phone antennas and as an effect of this diables or dis-functions (is that a word?...it is now ) the GPS. I'm hoping GPS still works afterwards. I just can't seem to figure out how to flash this ROM with the tools I have. I found a zip mirror of ubersonic - do i just load this into the root of the SD drive and use the recovery console on the phone to flash rom from SD?
I also have read multiple places that I should partition my SD card as well. I get the principal, but i'm a bit aprehensive to move forward with this. My impression of how this is done is to copy all contents of my SD card to the PC, then using the recovery console go ahead and partition, then put the PC copy of the contents back on the SD...what does this really accomplish? should the roms be in a different drive partition? Apps in another? how do i manage this?
Also, with regard to partitioning, i need to make a nandroid backup of the current OS now, and save that but i cant find this cleanly documented either. Look, i know i'm getting into this whole rooting thing late, but now i'm more than intrigued...seems there's a LOT that can be done with the phone and the right tools. They don't teach this crap in school around here.
Took me a couple tries, but i have it running now, so far i like it a lot. .. still treating. Minecraft seems to be a little quirky but I'm gonna let my son decide.
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jayd4wg said:
Took me a couple tries, but i have it running now, so far i like it a lot. .. still treating. Minecraft seems to be a little quirky but I'm gonna let my son decide.[/
Do you have a bootloader driver for Windows 8-10? I am trying to get one unlocked through the HTC site but the device won't show up when in the bootloader screen.
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I don't. I had to resort to reluctantly use my work laptop rubbing win 7 Enterprise.