Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find any way to prevent the Fire TV from sleeping? It stays awake if I have a sideloaded app like XBMC loaded, but if I am in an official Fire TV app, it goes to sleep after 30 minutes. This confuses guests at my house when they turn the TV on and get nothing but a black screen from the Fire TV.
Red Eye Sleep Awake seems to work fine on my Fire TV. Once running, FTV never goes to sleep.
I mainly used it for the AirPin PRO app, when FTV goes to sleep, AirPin stops working. But, after letting FTV run without sleeping for 3 to 4 days, I did find FTV much warmer to touch. It was not that important for AirPin to be available on demand for me, so I uninstalled the Red Eye app and let FTV go to sleep.
martyxng said:
Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find any way to prevent the Fire TV from sleeping? It stays awake if I have a sideloaded app like XBMC loaded, but if I am in an official Fire TV app, it goes to sleep after 30 minutes. This confuses guests at my house when they turn the TV on and get nothing but a black screen from the Fire TV.
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What was your solution? I am looking for a way to disable sleep to allow the screensaver to stay active.
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riz
Screensaver.tv said:
What was your solution? I am looking for a way to disable sleep to allow the screensaver to stay active.
Thx,
riz
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I need to look at it more, but I put a needle through the mic and into the ic under to prevent the mic from ever working. left it alone for ten hours, and when I turned on the tv next, the fire was fully up. usually it takes a few slaps in the head to wake up; I think the error thrown by testing voice may have also kept it awake. I'm hoping this doesn't kill the batteries in the remote.
roustabout said:
I need to look at it more, but I put a needle through the mic and into the ic under to prevent the mic from ever working. left it alone for ten hours, and when I turned on the tv next, the fire was fully up. usually it takes a few slaps in the head to wake up; I think the error thrown by testing voice may have also kept it awake. I'm hoping this doesn't kill the batteries in the remote.
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Hey guys, anyone have a solution? thx
dbdoshi said:
Red Eye Sleep Awake seems to work fine on my Fire TV. Once running, FTV never goes to sleep.
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I have sideloaded RedEye Sleep Awake onto my Fire TV and launched it but it does not keep my Fire TV box from going to sleep. A few seconds afterwards, the Fire TV white LED goes out.
What should I try?
Not a geek said:
I have sideloaded RedEye Sleep Awake onto my Fire TV and launched it but it does not keep my Fire TV box from going to sleep. A few seconds afterwards, the Fire TV white LED goes out.
What should I try?
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Works fine for me... on both my FTVs. These are rooted FTVs (if you are not rooted, I am not sure if this app works)
My settings within the app are:
Awake Level: Fully Awake (you will need to go into that option to select it)
Start at boot: Yes
Disable when screen is turned off: No
Enable when on AC: Yes
Enable at startup: Yes
Disable on low battery: No
Disable notification Icon: No
(Yes means checked, No means not checked).
Once you have the settings verified, reboot your FTV and see if it stays up. Also, my RedEye Sleep Toggle version is 1.5.2 (free version)
Also, on my FTV under Settings, Display & Sounds, Screen Saver, the "Start Time" is set to "Never". Not sure if that makes any difference, but wanted to put it out here.
Thanks for your rapid reply, dbdoshi and for the settings detail you included.
I tried again and this time the Redeye Sleep Toggle app does indeed work.
I too have two Fire TVs and why I failed on both of 'em to get the app to work, I have no idea. Anyway, all's well that ends well...
Re the sceensaver settings, I've mine set to 5 minutes and this doesn't disturb the app behaviour at all.
Also, my Fire TVs are not rooted, merely sideloaded.
For anyone confused by the app name, at the time of writing it shows up in Google Play and on the BinaryMagi Inc website as Redeye Stay Awake, but on Android devices it shows up as Redeye Sleep Toggle.
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So I have googled this and found nothing so far. I'm am wondering if there is anything that will shutdown (not restart) the fire TV if I root it. The play/ select trick just restarts the fire TV for me. Also, are there any apps that allow your phone to act as a fire TV remote?
Sprint Note II / CyanogenMod 11 / 9300 mAh ZeroLemon battery
Xtraordinair said:
So I have googled this and found nothing so far. I'm am wondering if there is anything that will shutdown (not restart) the fire TV if I root it. The play/ select trick just restarts the fire TV for me. Also, are there any apps that allow your phone to act as a fire TV remote?
Sprint Note II / CyanogenMod 11 / 9300 mAh ZeroLemon battery
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How would you turn it back on if you were to shut it down?
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How would you turn it back on if you were to shut it down?
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Maybe shutdown isn't the right word.. I would like to have it go to sleep without going through 30 mins of screensavers.
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Maybe shutdown isn't the right word.. I would like to have it go to sleep without going through 30 mins of screensavers.
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I don't know if anyone ever did power measurements on it... but I don't really think there is going to be that big of a difference in the firetv between it being in screensaver mode vs in sleep mode. It's still very much alive while it's sleeping.
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I don't know if anyone ever did power measurements on it... but I don't really think there is going to be that big of a difference in the firetv between it being in screensaver mode vs in sleep mode. It's still very much alive while it's sleeping.
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Posted on xbmc forums
"Just got mine today and checked power consumption of the Firetv. and during boot it consumes about 4 watts and peaked at 6 for a couple of seconds after that idled at 2.5 watts. tried playing a movie on xbmc koying's most current build and its about the same as idle. varies from 3.7 - 4 watts. this was measured with a p3 kill-a-watt.
I gotta say I am excited on the progress on this considering its only been a week."
So its about 1.5w difference between idle and playing a movie. That is one major reason I bought this gotta save $$$ lol
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Posted on xbmc forums
"Just got mine today and checked power consumption of the Firetv. and during boot it consumes about 4 watts and peaked at 6 for a couple of seconds after that idled at 2.5 watts. tried playing a movie on xbmc koying's most current build and its about the same as idle. varies from 3.7 - 4 watts. this was measured with a p3 kill-a-watt.
I gotta say I am excited on the progress on this considering its only been a week."
So its about 1.5w difference between idle and playing a movie. That is one major reason I bought this gotta save $$$ lol
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That's not what is important. It's idle vs "sleeping".
If you send the shutdown command the fire tv will go to sleep immediately. I have down it with my USB keyboard and with the LANmote Deluxe app. Which is also an app that will let you control the fire tv with your phone.
Droidmote will do everything you are asking for. Install the server on the FTV and the client on your phone. You can sleep and wake the FTV via the power button in the droidmote interface.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteclient
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sublimnl said:
Droidmote will do everything you are asking for. Install the server on the FTV and the client on your phone. You can sleep and wake the FTV via the power button in the droidmote interface.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteclient
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Where did you get your droidmote APK from? Trying to find a source that's safe.
Nevermind.. I found the play store tutorial
anyone know if this will turn off your TV at the same time via hdmi CEC?
I tried it and it did not turn off my tv
Sprint Note II / CyanogenMod 11 / 9300 mAh ZeroLemon battery
SPMC is setup as launcher, but the FireTV doesn't sleep when SPMC is running. So I have the elmerohueso Screensaver that puts the device to sleep after Xmins. Just wondering if there's any way to have the screensaver come on after just a few minutes, but sleep not happen until later, maybe 20mins etc.?
Thanks.
modstore said:
SPMC is setup as launcher, but the FireTV doesn't sleep when SPMC is running. So I have the elmerohueso Screensaver that puts the device to sleep after Xmins. Just wondering if there's any way to have the screensaver come on after just a few minutes, but sleep not happen until later, maybe 20mins etc.?
Thanks.
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The latest SPMC allows for Suspend on rooted Android devices. In Settings, set whatever screensaver you want, then in System > Power Saving change your Power Saving mode to Suspend and set the timer for 20 mins. Et voila!
elmerohueso said:
The latest SPMC allows for Suspend on rooted Android devices. In Settings, set whatever screensaver you want, then in System > Power Saving change your Power Saving mode to Suspend and set the timer for 20 mins. Et voila!
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Oh perfect! Thanks for the quick response.
elmerohueso said:
The latest SPMC allows for Suspend on rooted Android devices. In Settings, set whatever screensaver you want, then in System > Power Saving change your Power Saving mode to Suspend and set the timer for 20 mins. Et voila!
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Is anyone else having trouble with SPMC 13.3.2's Suspend feature? I have an issue where if I launch Netflix (from SPMC), SPMC will suspend my FireTV after the allotted suspend internal even while Netflix is playing.
Example:
SPMC Suspend set to 15mins
Launch Netflix from SPMC
Watch Netflix for 15mins
FireTV is suspended by SPMC
Anyone else running into this issue or have a workaround that prevents suspend while the FireTV is in use (even if that use isn't XBMC/SPMC)?
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Is anyone else having trouble with SPMC 13.3.2's Suspend feature? I have an issue where if I launch Netflix (from SPMC), SPMC will suspend my FireTV after the allotted suspend internal even while Netflix is playing.
Example:
SPMC Suspend set to 15mins
Launch Netflix from SPMC
Watch Netflix for 15mins
FireTV is suspended by SPMC
Anyone else running into this issue or have a workaround that prevents suspend while the FireTV is in use (even if that use isn't XBMC/SPMC)?
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Anyone else using SPMC? Is there a better XBMC FireTV solution?
TornSack said:
Is anyone else having trouble with SPMC 13.3.2's Suspend feature? I have an issue where if I launch Netflix (from SPMC), SPMC will suspend my FireTV after the allotted suspend internal even while Netflix is playing.
Example:
SPMC Suspend set to 15mins
Launch Netflix from SPMC
Watch Netflix for 15mins
FireTV is suspended by SPMC
Anyone else running into this issue or have a workaround that prevents suspend while the FireTV is in use (even if that use isn't XBMC/SPMC)?
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I tested this using Netflix in the same way, and unfortunately while watching netflix the FireTV went onto suspend after 20mins.
modstore said:
I tested this using Netflix in the same way, and unfortunately while watching netflix the FireTV went onto suspend after 20mins.
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XBMC doesn't have any power settings for Android, so unfortunately I can't test that to compare.
Edit: I just tested XBMC on Windows, and the power saving features (set to "hibernate") do indeed kick in while XBMC is minimized. I'm guessing this may be because the Shutdown Timer functionality may have originally been intended to be used on XBMC appliances. Anyway, I'm sure if a fix gets checked in to XBMC (to only apply the Shutdown Timer if XBMC is active) that it would bubble up into SPMC.
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Anyone else using SPMC? Is there a better XBMC FireTV solution?
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Yes, I use elmerohueso's screen saver and I never worry about Netflix being cut off or the box not sleeping after 3min (which is my timer).
Ipse_Tase said:
Yes, I use elmerohueso's screen saver and I never worry about Netflix being cut off or the box not sleeping after 3min (which is my timer).
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I've now done the same Ipse. Hopefully elmerohueso will continue to support, it's a great plug-in.
elmerohueso said:
XBMC doesn't have any power settings for Android, so unfortunately I can't test that to compare.
Edit: I just tested XBMC on Windows, and the power saving features (set to "hibernate") do indeed kick in while XBMC is minimized. I'm guessing this may be because the Shutdown Timer functionality may have originally been intended to be used on XBMC appliances. Anyway, I'm sure if a fix gets checked in to XBMC (to only apply the Shutdown Timer if XBMC is active) that it would bubble up into SPMC.
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Do you happen to know if there's a bug report for this already? I did a quick search but haven't found one. But don't want to report one if it's a duplicate.
Alternatively, I'm not sure if it's something you would consider, but would it be difficult to offer an option in your screensaver add on, to allow selection of another screensaver at a certain time (5mins or whatever) before getting to the sleep time (20mins etc.)?
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Do you happen to know if there's a bug report for this already? I did a quick search but haven't found one. But don't want to report one if it's a duplicate.
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I added it to the Feature Request forum but not to trac. I'm pretty sure I know what needs to be changed, but I'm having issues with my dev environment. Once I get it working I'll make a pull request (assuming the fix I'm thinking of actually works).
modstore said:
Alternatively, I'm not sure if it's something you would consider, but would it be difficult to offer an option in your screensaver add on, to allow selection of another screensaver at a certain time (5mins or whatever) before getting to the sleep time (20mins etc.)?
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I think that'd be overly complicating things.
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I added it to the Feature Request forum but not to trac. I'm pretty sure I know what needs to be changed, but I'm having issues with my dev environment. Once I get it working I'll make a pull request (assuming the fix I'm thinking of actually works).
I think that'd be overly complicating things.
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Hi elmerohueso, im currently using your screensaver and ran itno a problem: if i leave the video paused, your screensaver will correctly send the device to sleep, but my usb HDD will stay awake until i stop the movie and let it sleep again. i was trying to edit your python script but its the first time i see python XD. is there a way to send a command to stop video playback right before it goes to sleep?
Volc7 said:
Hi elmerohueso, im currently using your screensaver and ran itno a problem: if i leave the video paused, your screensaver will correctly send the device to sleep, but my usb HDD will stay awake until i stop the movie and let it sleep again. i was trying to edit your python script but its the first time i see python XD. is there a way to send a command to stop video playback right before it goes to sleep?
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By default, the XBMC screen saver won't actually kick in if a video is paused. However, you can manually set it to do so. I can't actually think of a good reason that someone *wouldn't* want their video stopped once the screensaver kicks in, so I'll see if I can add "Stop Video" as a feature.
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By default, the XBMC screen saver won't actually kick in if a video is paused. However, you can manually set it to do so. I can't actually think of a good reason that someone *wouldn't* want their video stopped once the screensaver kicks in, so I'll see if I can add "Stop Video" as a feature.
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Awesomesauce
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Awesomesauce
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I'm pushing the 2.8 screensaver update to my repo now. XBMC should automatically pull it down within 24 hours. It now has a setting to "Stop Paused Video" (remember to set it, it's off by default).
The biggest issue was that any call that manipulates the Player (ie. stopping a video) will kick XBMC out of the screensaver. I got around that (hopefully) by calling ActivateScreensaver after stopping the video, basically starting the screensaver again (1st pass - stops the video, 2nd pass - runs whatever power call you chose).
Great ill test it as soon as im able to get it
just tested it.works peftectly so far. xbmc correctly stops the video, goes to sleep and a few mins later my harddrive sleeps too. thanks you!
Volc7 said:
just tested it.works peftectly so far. xbmc correctly stops the video, goes to sleep and a few mins later my harddrive sleeps too. thanks you!
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Glad to hear it.
If the device is idle Kodi will dim the screen but the the FireTV will never go to sleep.
I found this in the KODI FAQs:
Note: Some options might not be available on all hardware or OSes. For example, XBMC/Kodi cannot control shutdown or sleep on Android.
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I'd like to know if there is a known workaround for this issue?
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Phil402 said:
If the device is idle Kodi will dim the screen but the the FireTV will never go to sleep.
I found this in the KODI FAQs:
I'd like to know if there is a known workaround for this issue?
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"Android Power Options" screensaver from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
P.S. For rooted device only.
Try SPMC. It allows the aftv to go into standby and it performs really well
Just go to the XBMC setting page and set Power Saving to shutdown XBMC in 60 minutes of idle or less. This will solve your problem
SPMC does not shutdown but it allows the aftv to go into standby.
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Just go to the XBMC setting page and set Power Saving to shutdown XBMC in 60 minutes of idle or less. This will solve your problem
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Thank you. Totally overlooked this option.
I like SPMC so far more crashes less for me and i like that it has a button to put the fire tv in stand by mode
Lots of users have experienced issues getting aftv to auto sleep. For me the workaround was to set screensaver time to "never". But now with the latest update i noticed both my aftvs are quick to sleep when its left idling. Actually this is true even if i dont force quit kodi.
I went into display settings and noticed theyve been altered --screensaver time is 5 mins.
Maybe its my imagination but it seems to sleep with less than 5 mins idle time. It now sort of acts like my phone--screen goes black if im not using it.
Im not complaining. I just think its interesting theyd find this necessary at amazon. There is no battery to conserve. Anyone have any theories on why this was fixed/modified with the latest firmware?
Some time several months back I recall reading a post from a Fire TV user in Germany, whose Fire TV wouldn't go to sleep. He was reporting that during non-sleep it was drawing excessive power. This was an issue for him because of the cost of electricity.
My best guess is that it's for energy conservation, for the Fire TV at least and in some cases for the TV. I imagine some TVs will turn off automatically after some time with a blank screen, and some TVs (such as mine) will automatically turn on when the Fire TV is woken up.
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Some time several months back I recall reading a post from a Fire TV user in Germany, whose Fire TV wouldn't go to sleep. He was reporting that during non-sleep it was drawing excessive power. This was an issue for him because of the cost of electricity.
My best guess is that it's for energy conservation, for the Fire TV at least and in some cases for the TV. I imagine some TVs will turn off automatically after some time with a blank screen, and some TVs (such as mine) will automatically turn on when the Fire TV is woken up.
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Just doing some routine maintenance today, I launched es task manager and was fiddling trying to get my wireless mouse to work (wound up needing new battery). In a very short span--no more than 5 mins, aftv went to sleep 3 times. This to me is a good thing. Its conserving power like most modern devices should. I'm just curious as to why amazon chose to address this now. Optimistically I'm hoping they just want a more power efficient product for their consumers, but wondering if there's anything that made this necessary? If maybe those long periods without sleep could potentially wear it out now that one of my aftvs is reaching its first birthday.
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Just doing some routine maintenance today, I launched es task manager and was fiddling trying to get my wireless mouse to work (wound up needing new battery). In a very short span--no more than 5 mins, aftv went to sleep 3 times. This to me is a good thing. Its conserving power like most modern devices should. I'm just curious as to why amazon chose to address this now. Optimistically I'm hoping they just want a more power efficient product for their consumers, but wondering if there's anything that made this necessary? If maybe those long periods without sleep could potentially wear it out now that one of my aftvs is reaching its first birthday.
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You could try an app I use on all my Android devices. It's called Screen Timeout, and it's in the Playstore. You can place a shortcut on the desktop and click whenever you want to keep the screen from timing out on you. I combined it with Pie Control and can access it from within any app by moving my mouse the side of the screen and clicking to bring up the app, then sliding over to select the Screen Timeout app. Both apps work very well, plus the Pie Control app also has a clock feature so you can see what time it is. The only downside is the clock also has a battery display you can't get rid of, but it's pretty tiny.
The Fire TV stick default screensaver has some of the most beautiful landscape pictures I have ever seen. The transitions between them are also super fluid. On some events like a party I would like to display it all the time, basically using my big screen TV as a photo gallery. Unfortunately it's not that easy.
I have connected to the Fire TV stick via ADB to set the screensaver to 1 minute:
adb shell settings put system screen_off_timeout 60000
This works well, after 1 minute of idling the screensaver is shown (In the UI lowest value is 5 minutes).
Unfortunately FireTV will show the screensaver only for about 15 minutes and then turn the screen off! :crying:
Is there a way to prevent it?
I have sideloaded the Wake Lock Powermanager to the stick:
https://apkpure.com/wake-lock-powermanager/eu.thedarken.wl
If I activate the screen lock, Fire TV doesn't go to standby anymore, but unfortunately the screensaver is disabled.
Is there any other way?
It requires root access.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-set-a-custom-sleep-time-on-a-rooted-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
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The Fire TV stick default screensaver has some of the most beautiful landscape pictures I have ever seen. The transitions between them are also super fluid. On some events like a party I would like to display it all the time, basically using my big screen TV as a photo gallery. Unfortunately it's not that easy.
I have connected to the Fire TV stick via ADB to set the screensaver to 1 minute:
adb shell settings put system screen_off_timeout 60000
This works well, after 1 minute of idling the screensaver is shown (In the UI lowest value is 5 minutes).
Unfortunately FireTV will show the screensaver only for about 15 minutes and then turn the screen off! :crying:
Is there a way to prevent it?
I have sideloaded the Wake Lock Powermanager to the stick:
https://apkpure.com/wake-lock-powermanager/eu.thedarken.wl
If I activate the screen lock, Fire TV doesn't go to standby anymore, but unfortunately the screensaver is disabled.
Is there any other way?
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It requires root access.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-set-a-custom-sleep-time-on-a-rooted-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
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Thanks to Mattgyver83 over @ RedIt & Thanks to @Axecaster for the RedIt link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/4jc22o/nonroot_prevent_sleep_on_fireos5/
So basically this different/optional setting might also work for non-Rooted devices on the latest or any past FW. But someone on a non-Rooted device will have to confirm that. Please post your result & FW version. Also someone can try to use a value of "0" to see if that turns the timeout completely off like with other mods.
ChrisDL over in the comments @ AFTVNews.com tested the "0" value & it worked as a Never Sleep value.
Note: The Mattgyver83 Reddit option seems to be much cleaner & fully functional. I would recommend you try that one first.
And not we have an awesome AIO Guide with explanations thanks to Elias aka @AFTVnews.com .
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-set-...-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-stick-without-root/
Make sure you read the comments. There are a bit more details there.
Also someone mentioned it was not working for them on a FTVS1. Although the AppStarter setting was working for them. I hope some more of you can test the ADB input method to get the whole picture.
This non-root solution does work with a value of 0:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/4jc22o/nonroot_prevent_sleep_on_fireos5/
Other solutions do not work.