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Vzw(4.4.2) - s off without a pc?

I had to reactivate my m7 after my g2 took a hit fixing a door today.
I'm running 4.4.2 still and I was able to get root with weaksauce. I do not have a pc to run rumrunner like when I did a while ago.
Is there anything I can do besides paying for sunshine? I don't mind paying, but I figured with the older software there might be something that would work.
Anybody got any help im having an unusually difficult time finding a straight answer
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ddurandSGS3 said:
I had to reactivate my m7 after my g2 took a hit fixing a door today.
I'm running 4.4.2 still and I was able to get root with weaksauce. I do not have a pc to run rumrunner like when I did a while ago.
Is there anything I can do besides paying for sunshine? I don't mind paying, but I figured with the older software there might be something that would work.
Anybody got any help im having an unusually difficult time finding a straight answer
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Without a pc, the ONLY way is sunshine. Every other way involves pc, and 9 times outta 10, even WITH a pc, sun shines STILL all that'll work.

And the only way to do this is to pay 25$?
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ddurandSGS3 said:
And the only way to do this is to pay 25$?
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Correct. I've said it 1,000 times throughout different threads and users, it's the best$25 I've ever spent and it's definitely worth it.

bdizzle1686 said:
Correct. I've said it 1,000 times throughout different threads and users, it's the best$25 I've ever spent and it's definitely worth it.
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I agree I don't mind paying. Just figured I'd try the free route first since the software is older.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
I agree I don't mind paying. Just figured I'd try the free route first since the software is older.
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Right, definitely worth a shot since you're still on 4.4.2. I know firewater has been discontinued, so give rumrunner a shot. If not, go with sunshine. Saves alotta time n is just a 1-click method.

bdizzle1686 said:
Right, definitely worth a shot since you're still on 4.4.2. I know firewater has been discontinued, so give rumrunner a shot. If not, go with sunshine. Saves alotta time n is just a 1-click method.
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I was on 4.4.2 when I first went s-off using weaksauce/firewater without any problems. I know that OTA version had been patched for Rumrunner already and I was unable to use it. Maybe there is an older version of firewater out there? I'm sure that one of the later ones should work with 4.4.2 still since the OTA hasn't been applied to the OP's phone. It's strange that they would no longer even have the downloads for the older versions of it after discontinuing it...
OP, you really have absolutely no computer access to save the $25 for sunshine? You would still have to use one to flash TWRP and root anyway, even after getting s-off.

BranC85 said:
I was on 4.4.2 when I first went s-off using weaksauce/firewater without any problems. I know that OTA version had been patched for Rumrunner already and I was unable to use it. Maybe there is an older version of firewater out there? I'm sure that one of the later ones should work with 4.4.2 still since the OTA hasn't been applied to the OP's phone. It's strange that they would no longer even have the downloads for the older versions of it after discontinuing it...
OP, you really have absolutely no computer access to save the $25 for sunshine? You would still have to use one to flash TWRP and root anyway, even after getting s-off.
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No version of Firewater Will work. It relied on an online resource server that has since been shut down. So even on the phones that Firewater WOULD'VE worked on, it won't anymore..

BranC85 said:
I was on 4.4.2 when I first went s-off using weaksauce/firewater without any problems. I know that OTA version had been patched for Rumrunner already and I was unable to use it. Maybe there is an older version of firewater out there? I'm sure that one of the later ones should work with 4.4.2 still since the OTA hasn't been applied to the OP's phone. It's strange that they would no longer even have the downloads for the older versions of it after discontinuing it...
OP, you really have absolutely no computer access to save the $25 for sunshine? You would still have to use one to flash TWRP and root anyway, even after getting s-off.
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No pc at all. I have a Mac for work.
I have temp root with weaksauce. I planned to use sunshine in a couple days once I figure out if this battery will last until the summer.
I planned to temp root with weaksauce for sunshine, pay and use sunshine and then use flashify to flash a recovery. Am I wrong in assuming this process should work fine?
I miss aosp and need dt2w coming from my g2
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ddurandSGS3 said:
No pc at all. I have a Mac for work.
I have temp root with weaksauce. I planned to use sunshine in a couple days once I figure out if this battery will last until the summer.
I planned to temp root with weaksauce for sunshine, pay and use sunshine and then use flashify to flash a recovery. Am I wrong in assuming this process should work fine?
I miss aosp and need dt2w coming from my g2
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That's EXACTLY how I rooted mine back when I was on 4.4.2. Except I couldn't get Sunshines Temproot to stick so I used towelroot. But in a nutshell, yes your theory will work. Did for me and no problems half a year later...

In case I need to go that route.. Hope do you use towel root with the one? I thought it was unsupported?
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ddurandSGS3 said:
No pc at all. I have a Mac for work.
I have temp root with weaksauce. I planned to use sunshine in a couple days once I figure out if this battery will last until the summer.
I planned to temp root with weaksauce for sunshine, pay and use sunshine and then use flashify to flash a recovery. Am I wrong in assuming this process should work fine?
I miss aosp and need dt2w coming from my g2
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That plan does make sense if your temp root with weaksauce works nicely with flashify. I have only used it to flash recoveries within a permanently rooted ROM so I have no idea if you might encounter problems using it when your root access is only temporary. Hopefully it works but a couple things you might want to consider are that flashing updated firmware still does require a PC. Maybe there is a Mac version of the android SDK where you can use the adb/fastboot commands, but unfortunately whenever the updated firmware from OTA versions get posted in these forums, they are not recovery flashable. The other thing is that the M7 doesn't have a secondary processor to handle wake gestures. There are custom kernels on here that have tap to wake and such, but they do tend to consume battery charge faster than without.

BranC85 said:
That plan does make sense if your temp root with weaksauce works nicely with flashify. I have only used it to flash recoveries within a permanently rooted ROM so I have no idea if you might encounter problems using it when your root access is only temporary. Hopefully it works but a couple things you might want to consider are that flashing updated firmware still does require a PC. Maybe there is a Mac version of the android SDK where you can use the adb/fastboot commands, but unfortunately whenever the updated firmware from OTA versions get posted in these forums, they are not recovery flashable. The other thing is that the M7 doesn't have a secondary processor to handle wake gestures. There are custom kernels on here that have tap to wake and such, but they do tend to consume battery charge faster than without.
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Thanks for the information. Bummer about the screen and dt2w.
Maybe I should just wait on this. It's looking like it's tougher than I imagined it would be. I think i might need to read more to get requainted with this phone and stuff.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
In case I need to go that route.. Hope do you use towel root with the one? I thought it was unsupported?
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Nope. Tap the WELCOME msg at the top of Towelroot app 3 times, and a string of numbers Will appear. All u have to do is change the last number from a 0 to a 1 n then click make it rain
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ddurandSGS3 said:
Thanks for the information. Bummer about the screen and dt2w.
Maybe I should just wait on this. It's looking like it's tougher than I imagined it would be. I think i might need to read more to get requainted with this phone and stuff.
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For D2W , etc. I'm using elementalx kernel, and not only is battery life better, but the screen wake gestures r more reliable than even on the m8. I've seen ppl complain about how they stop working on the m8, well I've been running Elemental x for half a year and no problems. As far as the Temp Root method with flashify , it's not really any more of a risk than if u used flashify on a Perm rooted device. Because even when u have temp root, u STILL have Root. Only difference is that on temp root, root is reinstalled on reboot. Like I said, I did it this way over half a year ago n no problem what so ever . Because I had no access to a pc either.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
Thanks for the information. Bummer about the screen and dt2w.
Maybe I should just wait on this. It's looking like it's tougher than I imagined it would be. I think i might need to read more to get requainted with this phone and stuff.
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Also technically u CAN take an ota even after rooted and stuff, all without pc, the only issue will be getting root again. Just flash stock odex Rom, then use flashify to flash stock recovery back on, take ota, PROFIT..... BUT- if u do that, u run the risk of not being able to get root until u find a pc again because as we all know, Ota's remove root, n chances r , it'll b harder to gain temp root after an ota

bdizzle1686 said:
Also technically u CAN take an ota even after rooted and stuff, all without pc, the only issue will be getting root again. Just flash stock odex Rom, then use flashify to flash stock recovery back on, take ota, PROFIT..... BUT- if u do that, u run the risk of not being able to get root until u find a pc again because as we all know, Ota's remove root, n chances r , it'll b harder to gain temp root after an ota
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Doesn't taking the OTA with stock recovery/stock rom lock the bootloader back up?
Also which elementalx kernel are you using? I didn't see a new one for the newest stock version in the forum(maybe I just missed it) and their own web page doesn't specify if those kernels are for GSM, VZW or carrier agnostic.

BranC85 said:
Doesn't taking the OTA with stock recovery/stock rom lock the bootloader back up?
Also which elementalx kernel are you using? I didn't see a new one for the newest stock version in the forum(maybe I just missed it) and their own web page doesn't specify if those kernels are for GSM, VZW or carrier agnostic.
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Nope. U can lose root, but once u unlock your Bootloader and S-off, nothing can change that unless u manually re-lock and turn S-on again, (NOTE- ONCE S-OFF, NEVER TURN S BACK ON UNLESS FOR WARRANTY/RETURN PURPOSES AND NOT UNLESS U KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING)

[ROOT] New Root method & BL Unlock for 5.0.x!!! OTA Supported!!!

Hey all,
For starters, disclaimer:
I am not responsible for thermonuclear war, bricks, and or your parents grounding you for said brick.
This method is VERY finicky, and very hard to reproduce. I cannot promise anything. It worked for me.
You need to download the following apks:
- KingRoot (Newest available on kingroot.net)
- KingUser (Newest available on kingroot.net)
- SunShine (3.0+, available @ theroot.ninja)
Once you have downloaded all of these apk files, follow the below steps:
1. Go to Settings ==> Security ==> Check "Allow Installation of Apps from Unknown Sources" and agree to the prompt.
2. Go to Settings ==> About ==> Software Info ==> Tap "Build Number" 12 Times.
3. Go to Settings ==> Developer Options ==> Check "USB Debugging"
4. Now install all the APK files by clicking on them.
5. Ensure you are connected to a reliable WiFI network.
6. Ensure you have Location Services/GPS and High Accuracy turned on in Settings.
7. Open KingRoot and select "Try to Root" when prompted.
8. Now, wait for it to complete. We don't expect KingRoot to succeed! We only expect it to display a prompt and then fail! If it reboots, you need to reopen KingRoot and try again.
Keep closing (through your Recent Apps Menu) and re-opening/re-running KingRoot until you get a prompt that says "Google cannot verify this app, would you like to Install KingUser?" click "Install" any similar message will work, i.e. "Google recommends you not install this app, would you like to install KingUser?" but a similar message must display, if it doesn't display, re-run KingRoot.
9. After the message goes away, and KingRoot fails, close the app, and open KingUser.
10 Verify that KingUser says you are rooted.
At this point, you are temp-rooted. You cannot write to the /System partition. You can only use apps that don't require /System access (very few).I recommend you cough up the $25 for SunShine. Only follow the instructions from here if you have $25 and want to unlock your boot loader, go S-OFF, and get Permanent Root & R/W /System Access.
11. Now, open SunShine and follow the on screen prompts, grant it SU access when prompted. It will reboot (Do not re-open SunShine as instructed after reboot!!!).
12. Repeat the steps 7-9 outlined above to re-gain temp-root.
13. NOW re-Open Sunshine and follow the on-screeen prompts.
Congrats! You are S-OFF, Unlocked, and your warranty bit returns an "OFFICIAL" status in bootloader mode. Now to install TWRP.
14. Download TWRP from here: http://android.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/ ON YOUR PC/MAC/LINUX BOX
Make sure to use this and not the stock TWRP build! The stock TWRP build doesn't have full Lollipop encryption support (as of 5/29/15).
15. Reboot to bootloader with the volume buttons, or use ADB to reboot to bootloader.
16. Plug your phone into your PC and verify you see it when you run "fastboot devices" from CMD/Terminal.
17. Run "fastboot flash recovery /pathtotwrpimghere/nameoftwrpimg.img".
18. Run the volume buttons to select "Recovery".
19. Download the flashable SuperSU .zip for 2.46 and transfer it to your phone while in TWRP.
20. Install the SuperSU .zip from TWRP and reboot.
21. Uninstall KingUser.
You are rooted and S-OFF. Enjoy your ROMs/Kernels freely.
This method is highly finicky. It worked for me, and it can for you! it took me about an hour to get KingRoot to display the message asking to install KingUser. Just keep trying!
Good Luck!!!

Anyone else get this to work?
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I did get this to work. Previously stock lollipop and s-on locked hboot 1.61.
Now s-off unlocked 1.61 and stock lollipop.
I installed kingroot/king user. Got root. Ran sunshine...purchased it...sunshine rebooted phone.
On reboot clear data of kingroot/king user...uninstall and reinstall king root / king user. Get root again...finish sunshine.
Rebooted, unlocked! Rerun kingroot stuff for root. Install twrp from play store, ignore warnina have it install...works. Perm root now.
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i cant afford 25$ for sunshine :'( #3rdworldsproblems

Anyone having an issue installing kingroot? I was able to install once, but since then I continually get an error saying app not installed.

I thought Sunshine could S-Off LP on the Verizon HTC One already. No?

xdadevnube said:
I thought Sunshine could S-Off LP on the Verizon HTC One already. No?
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No, it does not: everything before Loolypoop works with Sunshine.

nvm

This method works! Stock lolipop hboot 1.61. Thank you so much!

I got it to work! Verizon HTC One M7 5.0.2
In fact, all I had to do was download KingRoot and it actually successfully rooted my phone. I checked Root checker just in case and it says Root access is properly installed.

Austinh1517 said:
I got it to work! Verizon HTC One M7 5.0.2
In fact, all I had to do was download KingRoot and it actually successfully rooted my phone. I checked Root checker just in case and it says Root access is properly installed.
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You won't have true write protection disabled until you turn s-off if you haven't already. Other wise apps you remove and settings you change with root will revert each time you reboot.
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dottat said:
You won't have true write protection disabled until you turn s-off if you haven't already. Other wise apps you remove and settings you change with root will revert each time you reboot.
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This is true. With these phones, root itself is almost moot. S=off is what I really want. Sure u can use titanium backup, but u CANT remove system apps, change boot animations, edit build.prop, etc... All because of.the built in write protection which u need s=off for... Ppl need to just bite the bullet and get sunshine. I got it the day it finally came out for us (back on 4.4.2) and been thankful for it every day since...

dottat said:
You won't have true write protection disabled until you turn s-off if you haven't already. Other wise apps you remove and settings you change with root will revert each time you reboot.
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Yeah I noticed that. I'll get Sunshine sooner or later

How many times did you guys have to run KingRoot? And do you run it to completion each time? I've run it at least 10 times on my device, it fails every time, and I have yet to see a prompt as described in the OP.

breaker911 said:
Anyone having an issue installing kingroot? I was able to install once, but since then I continually get an error saying app not installed.
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Now I'm having this problem. I kept running kingroot, then it rebooted on me and told me I couldn't try to run it any more. So I uninstalled it thinking that would clear the problem. Now every time I try to install it it errors out and says "App not installed". I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have any hints?

dougleto said:
Now I'm having this problem. I kept running kingroot, then it rebooted on me and told me I couldn't try to run it any more. So I uninstalled it thinking that would clear the problem. Now every time I try to install it it errors out and says "App not installed". I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have any hints?
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Always can ruu
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I'm not quite ready to nuke my entire phone just yet . Or is there a slightly less nuclear RUU option that I'm unaware of?

dottat said:
Always can ruu
So very sorry for my ignorance As I am going to get the cell phone craze and then the smartphone craze.
The last cell phone I owned took a team of mules to take the battery.
Please tell me what the term ruu means.
My interest is to completely or near completely "gut" my Verizon note 4 in my US Cellular note 4 and then be able to install single or multi boot systems, hopefully using modular Code
That would be either less than typical roms then I read about here or else very streamlined roms only data that would support the main operating system and whatever hardware is installed. I certainly wouldn't want to end up with S OFF and routed machines that I could then install stock or custom-written Apps, software firmware and Code whatever else kind I may desire. well I remain hopeful that many will tell me this is not a problem even so it's all tells me it is impossible I will remain confident of success As I am convinced tenacity is more powerful than all the smarts in the world as well as a good looks fast runners sweet talkers and even possibly the best Coders out there that may only lack that one trait named tenacity. if there's another post about this anymore please get me to that.
Thank you in advance we anticipated cooperation and kindness, I remain.
Charlie aka Gladhatter
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Er
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dougleto said:
I'm not quite ready to nuke my entire phone just yet . Or is there a slightly less nuclear RUU option that I'm unaware of?
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Factory reset, or using HTC sync to "repair phone"
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Gladhatter said:
So very sorry for my ignorance As I am going to get the cell phone craze and then the smartphone craze.
The last cell phone I owned took a team of mules to take the battery.
Please tell me what the term ruu means.
My interest is to completely or near completely "gut" my Verizon note 4 in my US Cellular note 4 and then be able to install single or multi boot systems, hopefully using modular Code
That would be either less than typical roms then I read about here or else very streamlined roms only data that would support the main operating system and whatever hardware is installed. I certainly wouldn't want to end up with S OFF and routed machines that I could then install stock or custom-written Apps, software firmware and Code whatever else kind I may desire. well I remain hopeful that many will tell me this is not a problem even so it's all tells me it is impossible I will remain confident of success As I am convinced tenacity is more powerful than all the smarts in the world as well as a good looks fast runners sweet talkers and even possibly the best Coders out there that may only lack that one trait named tenacity. if there's another post about this anymore please get me to that.
Thank you in advance we anticipated cooperation and kindness, I remain.
Charlie aka Gladhatter
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Er
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Unfortunately most of us in this section won't be able to help. Your best bet is going to the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 section. Coming for help with your note 4 in an HTC section is like asking some people who know Chevy if they could help you fix your Ford. The expert advise would be ask the Ford experts and not the Chevy experts.
RUU is a term for HTC phones: Rom Update Utility. Samsung devices use Odin and I have no idea how to use it. I would help if I could.
The correct area for your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon
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Uzephi said:
Factory reset, or using HTC sync to "repair phone"
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What does the repair phone option do? And I guess I wasn't too clear. My phone, for the most part, is fine. Everything works fine *except* that KingRoot won't install correctly. All my other apps are fine.

Systemless Root & Android Pay

So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!

chickentech said:
So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!
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Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.

Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.

buru898 said:
Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.
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metpage said:
Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.
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Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)

formula91 said:
Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)
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To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.

chickentech said:
To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.
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Have you tried doing Android Pay before restoring stuff from Titanium Backups? There is a slim possibility that it may be altering something from system, making it fail the safetynet checks.
I would try flashing the zip from TWRP instead of sideloading as well. Just in case.

chickentech said:
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I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
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Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.

sn0warmy said:
Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.
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The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Update: Reddit user MajorNoodles has informed that Android Pay works on his Nexus 5. Chainfire, on his Google+ post, does mention that the working of Android Pay is by accident and not by design. He expects Android Pay to be updated in the future to counteract this.
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Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground

nvm

PhoenixTank said:
The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground
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Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank

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Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank
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If you're rooting to modify the hosts file to block ads.... that changes system, and will trip Android Pay's SafetyNet checks. The best adblocking I can get without changing System is Adblock Plus for Android. (Root on ABP seems to only allow some sort of localhost proxy network rerouting instead)
FYI Safetynet Playground trips for me, but Android Pay works just fine.
UPDATE: Weird, now I pass, must be because I recently re-encrypted my phone.
So now it's confirmed, I can use Android Pay and not trip SafetyNet API. Neato.

Thanks! That hosts file was it.. A fresh install and I'm gold with Safetynet Many thanks all around!

You're very welcome!
Right now I'm using adblock plus + a "patcher" that's pretty "lucky" heh.

Hi there everyone !!
I gone a long way till now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/req-help-to-unbrick-t3251740
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/how-to-enable-oem-unlocking-bricked-t3249003
And now I'm trying to get full Stock phone with Encryption, Locked oem and systemless Root without No warnings. = S E L R N
As far as I went was S R N when i tried to encrypt it got stucked on colorful bubbles screen.
Anyone got idea how to reach this ?
Did somone checked is AdAway after changing location of host file and symlinking it, stops Google Pay/Makes additional warning while booting ?

Kingroot Won't Root - Kingo says root but no root

BY mistake I made a thread in general note4 section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/kingroot-fails-kingo-rooted-root-t3501476
Anyone willing to help out?
EDIT: was able to root once but then everytime it just reboots the phone - at first cause was I didn't accept the "installation of the application" battery is low so maybe that could be the the reason..

patt2k said:
BY mistake I made a thread in general note4 section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/kingroot-fails-kingo-rooted-root-t3501476
Anyone willing to help out?
EDIT: was able to root once but then everytime it just reboots the phone - at first cause was I didn't accept the "installation of the application" battery is low so maybe that could be the the reason..
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I had the same problem a few hours ago. Kingo Root refused to work at all, so I had to use the Kingroot app. It made my phone lag like crazy after it rooted it, but it eventually worked. When you use either Kingo Root or Kingroot, what's the exact error that you get? Are you using Root Checker to see if you achieved root?

I always did a factory reset before starting the root process, it just seemed to make things go smoother. At least it would stay stable long enough to get all the adb stuff done. (Barely though )

quinciebee said:
I had the same problem a few hours ago. Kingo Root refused to work at all, so I had to use the Kingroot app. It made my phone lag like crazy after it rooted it, but it eventually worked. When you use either Kingo Root or Kingroot, what's the exact error that you get? Are you using Root Checker to see if you achieved root?
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I was able to root once and run the script and it changed the CID or whatever it was. Now I simply cannot get temp root at all to finish the bootloader unlock process. Tried PC version and Android version so many times now it just reboots and reboots.
kevintm78 said:
I always did a factory reset before starting the root process, it just seemed to make things go smoother. At least it would stay stable long enough to get all the adb stuff done. (Barely though )
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did a factory reset actually :/

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I was able to root once and run the script and it changed the CID or whatever it was. Now I simply cannot get temp root at all to finish the bootloader unlock process. Tried PC version and Android version so many times now it just reboots and reboots.
did a factory reset actually :/
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That sucks, to be honest it's been awhile since I did the unlock process. Maybe something changed with the way that app roots. Have you already tried an older version of kingroot? I know you've probably tried all this stuff but sometimes things get overlooked.

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That sucks, to be honest it's been awhile since I did the unlock process. Maybe something changed with the way that app roots. Have you already tried an older version of kingroot? I know you've probably tried all this stuff but sometimes things get overlooked.
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Rooted once with the newest one and it didn't reset even once. But then it just resets everytime. I did another factory reset so we shall see. I'll keep on trying.
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quinciebee said:
I had the same problem a few hours ago. Kingo Root refused to work at all, so I had to use the Kingroot app. It made my phone lag like crazy after it rooted it, but it eventually worked. When you use either Kingo Root or Kingroot, what's the exact error that you get? Are you using Root Checker to see if you achieved root?
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It worked once for me was able to use the unlock script but it was the part #1 of the process, so far I am unable to root again to fully unlock it. Been trying since yesterday the phone reboots when trying to root.

kevintm78 said:
That sucks, to be honest it's been awhile since I did the unlock process. Maybe something changed with the way that app roots. Have you already tried an older version of kingroot? I know you've probably tried all this stuff but sometimes things get overlooked.
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Good news! Kingroot 5.0 worked on second try. Status: Developer

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Good news! Kingroot 5.0 worked on second try. Status: Developer
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That's great! Did you have to do anything different or did kingroot just finally work long enough to get the job done?

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That's great! Did you have to do anything different or did kingroot just finally work long enough to get the job done?
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The kingroot 5.0 worked on second try.. so no idea why the older ones didn't work.
Would you happen to know which rom supports more languages other then default ones? shipping this phone to Europe tomorrow, don't know how stable CM roms are.

Relocking bootloader

My phone is stock in every way, except bootloader.
What is the best way to lock the bootloader again without loosing any data?
I need my phone locked again to use google pay

rockuman_ex said:
My phone is stock in every way, except bootloader.
What is the best way to lock the bootloader again without loosing any data?
I need my phone locked again to use google pay
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To use Google Pay, you need to pass Safety net.
It is not related to bootloader.
And relocking bootloader without losing any data is possible if and only if you did not flash any custom mods like recovery , kernel ..As it validates md5 checksum

rockuman_ex said:
My phone is stock in every way, except bootloader.
What is the best way to lock the bootloader again without loosing any data?
I need my phone locked again to use google pay
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You don't need to re-lock the bootloader to use Google Pay. Install TWRP as your recovery and then install Magisk!

kingme.sri said:
To use Google Pay, you need to pass Safety net.
It is not related to bootloader.
And relocking bootloader without losing any data is possible if and only if you did not flash any custom mods like recovery , kernel ..As it validates md5 checksum
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My phone is stock, not custom recovery or custom rom. Using 9.05 rom now.
So how do i re lock without losing any data

tye_time said:
You don't need to re-lock the bootloader to use Google Pay. Install TWRP as your recovery and then install Magisk!
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That's what I'm trying to avoid.
I want to go 100% stock.

I just ran safetynet test, i got cts profile match failed.
How do i fix this?

You will need to relock the bootloader then, you may lose data. Just back up everything first like pictures and videos. All your apps will re-download when you sign back into Google

tye_time said:
You will need to relock the bootloader then, you may lose data. Just back up everything first like pictures and videos. All your apps will re-download when you sign back into Google
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Is there a way to keep my phone as is when i relock the bootloader?
And how do i relock it?
Link to guide please?

Here is the guide: https://www.androidexplained.com/oneplus-5-lock-bootloader/
You won't be able to keep your phone 'as is' unfortunately, all data will be wiped and the phone reset.

rockuman_ex said:
My phone is stock in every way, except bootloader.
What is the best way to lock the bootloader again without loosing any data?
I need my phone locked again to use google pay
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I am on latest open beta everything stock no root.. Google pay works flawless.. try disabling telephone permission of google play services & try registering google pay

Yash93 said:
I am on latest open beta everything stock no root.. Google pay works flawless.. try disabling telephone permission of google play services & try registering google pay
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didn't work for me. still saying my phone is modified etc... :crying:

tye_time said:
Here is the guide: https://www.androidexplained.com/oneplus-5-lock-bootloader/
You won't be able to keep your phone 'as is' unfortunately, all data will be wiped and the phone reset.
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sigh..... i have everything set up since i got the phone.... a bit reluctant to do this... but there's NO OTHER way right? :crying::crying::crying:

rockuman_ex said:
sigh..... i have everything set up since i got the phone.... a bit reluctant to do this... but there's NO OTHER way right? :crying::crying::crying:
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Doesn't look like it I'm afraid. Sad times.

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Doesn't look like it I'm afraid. Sad times.
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finally took the plunge and got my phone re-locked... everything was wiped :crying: