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Tempted to upgrade to different phone?

I can't be the only one thinking about it with the lineup in 2015. The S6 Edge is sexy as hell but there isn't enough bang for the buck. HTC M9 is not even a contender this year (honestly HTC, you need to step it up). LG G4 sounds promising so far, although if LG somehow manages to screw something up in the specs/software, it's a long wait til the Note 5 and I'm not a huge fan of Touchwiz. I want to upgrade but my G3 is still pretty solid and I don't want to jump down below 5.5(ish) so I'm in limbo.
Anyone else thinking of upgrading? If so, which phone is tempting you?

No thinking about it, I will be getting the normal galaxy s6 next month. In my opinion you cant beat samsungs amoled screen and the exynos processor sounds amazing. Plus I like the idea of a fingerprint scanner over knock code now that it is touch not drag. I can live without removables, never needed to replace a battery and with 64 or more internal I wont need a sd. The G3 is a good phone but it already bores me, first phone I can say that about within the first year. I'll probably get some hate about this but my iphone 3g kept me happy longer. Sure that was my first smart phone back in 2008 but still... It was boring ios.

ThePagel said:
No thinking about it, I will be getting the normal galaxy s6 next month. In my opinion you cant beat samsungs amoled screen and the exynos processor sounds amazing. Plus I like the idea of a fingerprint scanner over knock code now that it is touch not drag. I can live without removables, never needed to replace a battery and with 64 or more internal I wont need a sd. The G3 is a good phone but it already bores me, first phone I can say that about within the first year. I'll probably get some hate about this but my iphone 3g kept me happy longer. Sure that was my first smart phone back in 2008 but still... It was boring ios.
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I agree on the G3 boring me part. My HTC DNA kept me interested longer than this phone did, for whatever reason. I was seriously considering jumping to the S6 or S6 Edge but I went to go check them out at Best Buy and neither of them amazed me. Sure their build quality is better than previous generations but nothing "wow"ed me and from what I hear, the battery life leaves much to be desired. Why Samsung went with 2500mAh, I have no idea. I can definitely live without removables too but not with a battery that small.

As much as i want to upgrade to the s6 edge i think i will hold off and see what LG has to offer. I like the G3 and have grown to like the buttons on the back of the phone as well as the knock to wake and sleep. Plus the g3 is the perfect size for me and the s6 is a tad smaller so ill wait for now.

hawkstwelve said:
I agree on the G3 boring me part. My HTC DNA kept me interested longer than this phone did, for whatever reason. I was seriously considering jumping to the S6 or S6 Edge but I went to go check them out at Best Buy and neither of them amazed me. Sure their build quality is better than previous generations but nothing "wow"ed me and from what I hear, the battery life leaves much to be desired. Why Samsung went with 2500mAh, I have no idea. I can definitely live without removables too but not with a battery that small.
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The poor battery is from wake locks, the exynos processor Is 30% more efficient than the snapdragon 810 and the amoled screen takes much less power so after the wake lock issues are taken care of it should last just as long or longer than other flagships coming out.
brusslesprouts said:
As much as i want to upgrade to the s6 edge i think i will hold off and see what LG has to offer. I like the G3 and have grown to like the buttons on the back of the phone as well as the knock to wake and sleep. Plus the g3 is the perfect size for me and the s6 is a tad smaller so ill wait for now.
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The rumor mill is saying the g4 will be bigger. Personally the g3 is as big as I want to go with phones.
All in all we all have different tastes and the s6 is the flavor I'm digging right now. I guess we will see if I still think it looks tasty in a month.

Absolutely no Samsh_t for me whatsoever.
No root on Z3 stopped me from buying.
I may consider M9, but I'd like to see what G4 will be first.

Camera is a big thing for me and after having the Nexus 5, HTC M8, and a Samsung S5.... I am sticking with the G3 for a while longer. Lots of people talk about how great the Samsung S5 camera is, but I did a side by side comparison and everyone said the G3 pictures were the best. For the S6, I guess we'll see how that camera turns out. Plus, it's going to be hard to root.

Samsung is ****ing bloated all to hell and back. G4 looks like it could be much better than the s6.
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I'm probably going to move to the M9. I switched from my M8 out of boredom, and honestly, I regret it.

wydra91 said:
I'm probably going to move to the M9. I switched from my M8 out of boredom, and honestly, I regret it.
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You regret switching from the M8 to the G3? What do you like better on the M8?
And I agree with @dakpluto that the G4 sounds like it could be just as good, if not better, than the S6/S6E. Over-hyped phones in my opinion.

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You regret switching from the M8 to the G3? What do you like better on the M8?
And I agree with @dakpluto that the G4 sounds like it could be just as good, if not better, than the S6/S6E. Over-hyped phones in my opinion.
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Honestly, my M8 was less laggy and just overall performed better. I know it's backwards, but in my experience, it was true. That and there's WAY more development for the HTC flagship phones on XDA than the G3.

wydra91 said:
Honestly, my M8 was less laggy and just overall performed better. I know it's backwards, but in my experience, it was true. That and there's WAY more development for the HTC flagship phones on XDA than the G3.
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I definitely agree on the development part. For whatever reason, LG G3 D851 had steady development but never exploded like my previous phones and seems to have dwindled now.
Thankful for what we got though!

Still loving my G3 on CM12.. Running great for me. As far as the S6 & M9 are concerned neither are worth the money (to me) to upgrade, and I even have an available upgrade. Ha. I bought my mint G3 non-contract with clean IMEI from a buddy for $275. He said it was too big of a device for him. I can't really justify an upgrade right now with the current offerings. S6 has Touchwiz (pardon me while I puke), antiquated home button & capacitive keys, no micro SD, and anemic battery. The M9 just didn't do it this year, and there's no word on a GPe version yet anyway. Safe to say I'll stick with my "Nexus 5.5" for now..

hawkstwelve said:
I definitely agree on the development part. For whatever reason, LG G3 D851 had steady development but never exploded like my previous phones and seems to have dwindled now.
Thankful for what we got though!
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I'm actually grateful that it hasn't. Summer is coming and like many of you, I've spent more time then I care to remember flashing 3 different ROM's a day. I'm glad I don't have that issue anymore honestly.

I have the G2, and think I might upgrade to the G3. The G4 is the only other phone that has my interest also but won't be sold to probably late May. Plus, the G4 will be already on Lollipop and doesn't have an older KK bootloader to flash twrp on and might be stuck. Unless bump gets updated to work on the new Lollipop bootloader. What you guys think?

MicroMod777 said:
I have the G2, and think I might upgrade to the G3. The G4 is the only other phone that has my interest also but won't be sold to probably late May. Plus, the G4 will be already on Lollipop and doesn't have an older KK bootloader to flash twrp on and might be stuck. Unless bump gets updated to work on the new Lollipop bootloader. What you guys think?
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I would put down money saying the g4 will be bootloader unlocked on T-Mobile just like this g3.

It's no question for me. The G4 will be mine by pre-order. I have owned 1 Samsung phone and have had 5 Lg's including the G2 and 3 so it's only right to get the 4. Plus all of my other electronics are Lg so they sync up seamlessly.

ThePagel said:
I would put down money saying the g4 will be bootloader unlocked on T-Mobile just like this g3.
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Bootloader is locked down on LP. G3 has KK base to do bump. G4 won't.

MicroMod777 said:
Bootloader is locked down on LP. G3 has KK base to do bump. G4 won't.
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The T-Mobile g3 on lollipop is bootloader locked? You sure?
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OKay, okay Ill stop playing stupid. It has never and probably never will be locked on t-mobile. We have never needed bump. Sure without all the other variants development might start at a slow pace but it would happen.

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The T-Mobile g3 on lollipop is bootloader locked? You sure?
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OKay, okay Ill stop playing stupid. It has never and probably never will be locked on t-mobile. We have never needed bump. Sure without all the other variants development might start at a slow pace but it would happen.
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Here's what I mean. The G3 on Lollipop can get root now. This allowed us to to modify the aboot with the previous kitkat version where we could bump the boot.img and recovery.img. This is only necessary if you want to flash custom roms, etc...
When the G4 comes out, it will come with Lollipop out of the box. It will probably be able to get rooted also with the latest exploit we have for root on Lollipop. But to get a custom twrp put on it to flash custom roms probably won't happen and will stay locked down on any carrier untill a new bump is developed that will work with the Lollipop aboot.img. The G4 doesn't have a previous version of Kitkat to do the hack that we do both on the G3 and G2 to make bump work.
My hunch is rom development on the G4 will not be possible until an exploit is found. Not sure we can put a G3 KK base aboot.img on a G4. Probably make it a brick.

Anyone switched from a Note 4?

Currently, I have a T-Mobile Note 4, but looking to change devices soon. Has anyone switched from a Note 4 to the G4?
Pros/Cons? Worth it?

I did

thinking about it

LancerV said:
I did
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And....?

I like it so far only thing I can't stand is the screen but not sure if mine is just bugged. Going to go look at one in the store and see if it has the viewing angle problems also

holywhitebread said:
And....?
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You only asked if anyone has switched, I think he was just answering your question :laugh:

geoff5093 said:
You only asked if anyone has switched, I think he was just answering your question :laugh:
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I figured it was a given to give pros/cons on that type of question.

But yeah I like everything better but the screen which I'm thinking is a dud for my phone

I switched
I switched from the Note 4. I received the phone last Friday and used it for a couple of days.
My initial impressions is that the phone is light, the leather feels great and the camera is awesome. I thought that I would have issues with the buttons being on the back but I got used to them pretty quickly. The IR Blaster is a joke. I literally have to be right in front of my tv to work.
I however felt like something was missing and decided to go back to the Note 4. It wasn't as much of an upgrade although it's a great phone.
I went to a cookout on Saturday and people kept complementing me for my case, I had to tell them that it wasn't a case and that it was part of my phone!!
I'd say that you don't have to switch if you have the Note 4 but if you are a tech whore like me, you may.

My ir blaster works great

LancerV said:
My ir blaster works great
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What kind of TV are you using it on?

jeffreynew23 said:
I switched from the Note 4. I received the phone last Friday and used it for a couple of days.
My initial impressions is that the phone is light, the leather feels great and the camera is awesome. I thought that I would have issues with the buttons being on the back but I got used to them pretty quickly. The IR Blaster is a joke. I literally have to be right in front of my tv to work.
I however felt like something was missing and decided to go back to the Note 4. It wasn't as much of an upgrade although it's a great phone.
I went to a cookout on Saturday and people kept complementing me for my case, I had to tell them that it wasn't a case and that it was part of my phone!!
I'd say that you don't have to switch if you have the Note 4 but if you are a tech whore like me, you may.
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Huh? So u have the note 4 or LG G4, what was missing???
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jeffreynew23 said:
What kind of TV are you using it on?
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Sony LG
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poeypresents said:
Huh? So u have the note 4 or LG G4, what was missing???
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Think he's saying he got the LG g4 and ended up going back to the note 4

LancerV said:
Sony LG
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Think he's saying he got the LG g4 and ended up going back to the note 4
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Oh OK, I got the note 4 a week ago, upgrade time, and being on galaxy 4 I was stoked to go with note, after a week with it, I felt it was too big, couldn't one hand swipe text, no root (huge deal breaker) and felt it was too overpriced for what it was, for the 700$ one could easily get a nice hybrid tablet that would trump the note... Now if it was rooted and unlocked might be a different story.... Anyways I took back note 4 and am awaiting the lg g4... great news LG has provided unlock.bin for EU version.... One step in right direction
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poeypresents said:
Oh OK, I got the note 4 a week ago, upgrade time, and being on galaxy 4 I was stoked to go with note, after a week with it, I felt it was too big, couldn't one hand swipe text, no root (huge deal breaker) and felt it was too overpriced for what it was, for the 700$ one could easily get a nice hybrid tablet that would trump the note... Now if it was rooted and unlocked might be a different story.... Anyways I took back note 4 and am awaiting the lg g4... great news LG has provided unlock.bin for EU version.... One step in right direction
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I had the t-mobile note 4 still don't miss it.

poeypresents said:
Huh? So u have the note 4 or LG G4, what was missing???
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Switched to the g4 and back to the Note 4.
Can't pint point what was missing. Just had a feeling that made me want to go back to my note. I don't use s pen much but it's nice to know that I have it there. Maybe that was it.
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LancerV said:
I had the t-mobile note 4 still don't miss it.
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What are you loving most about the g4? Did you use S Pen?

jeffreynew23 said:
Switched to the g4 and back to the Note 4.
Can't pint point what was missing. Just had a feeling that made me want to go back to my note. I don't use s pen much but it's nice to know that I have it there. Maybe that was it.
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What are you loving most about the g4? Did you use S Pen?
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Camera definitely better, no major touchwiz lag, with the Note 4 pretty much had to install custom rom, I like the back buttons and lack of physical buttons. The S-Pen was cool at first but it was quicker for me to just pull up any other note app and just type a note than draw anything.

LancerV said:
Camera definitely better, no major touchwiz lag, with the Note 4 pretty much had to install custom rom, I like the back buttons and lack of physical buttons. The S-Pen was cool at first but it was quicker for me to just pull up any other note app and just type a note than draw anything.
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Interesting. I'm rooted on the note and using Nova. You make a good point about notes. An interesting thing about the G4 if you're coming from the Note is the size. You won't miss the Size

jeffreynew23 said:
Interesting. I'm rooted on the note and using Nova. You make a good point about notes. An interesting thing about the G4 if you're coming from the Note is the size. You won't miss the Size
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Also gps is a 1000x better I could never get a lock inside with my note 4. My g4 I can get a lock inside a basement Datacenter

Now im using galaxy S5 Im just waiting my lg g4 its comes with 128 sd card on TMO offer on the web ...
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Possible Safestrap-esque recovery for our locked bootloader G4?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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I used this on my Note 3 and it worked really well! It's a great recovery replacement. Unfortunately you will need developers to build their roms to support MultiSystem.
I haven't tried this on my G4 because of the lack of MultiSystem roms for it. I haven't even been able to get FlashFire to work with my G4 (it may have been the file, I tried to flash to 60 FPS mod in flashfire and it failed, it didn't cause any issues, it just didn't flash like it was suppose to).
I am really hoping for a Bootloader unlock soon, or something similar to safestrap. IMHO MultiSystem works great, but SafeStrap was a better, and easier to use solution!

FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!

joshw0000 said:
FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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It works for roms as well?

mfun89 said:
It works for roms as well?
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So far it works for everything we've tried. We just don't have any roms to flash.
Some general discussion - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/flashfire-locked-bootloader-g4s-t3182105
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Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...

Ban-Hammer said:
Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
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Yes just hope it's in the works patiently waiting quietly
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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet

TheMadScientist420 said:
Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
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No

Keep working on it guys

I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.

RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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saColorfinger said:
I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
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Bootloader or bootloader bypass has been an after thought for quite some time now...

what are you going to get? I'm not even sure whats out there worth picking up. I NEED replaceable batteries.

supasoju said:
RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.

Wumbonaut said:
Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
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The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.

leroybrute said:
The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
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The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.

Wumbonaut said:
The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
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May 2015 for the G4.. I like my v10 better. My S7 edge is okay but not worth the upgrade to me.I am planning for the lg V series upgrade or note 6.

I have until August of 2017 on mine. I upgraded to the iPhone 6 plus in August of 2015, then sold it for $500 and bought a brand new opened box G4 for $300 in February 2016. So my payment plan was for the iPhone, but in the end, I'll be paying $200 less total.

Advice for G4 replacement...

My G4 finally died,after 20 months...
I took it to the store where it was bought,they will send it for repair.I hope they will repair it so I can sell it after...
I'm going to buy another phone but I'm in doubt which one,so I will need your help guys
Moto Z
Moto Z Play
Motorola Droid Turbo 2 XT1585
OnePlus 3T 64GB
Huawei Honor 8 32GB
Huawei P9 32GB
Meizu Pro 6 32GB
Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus 64GB
Or maybe you can think of something nice,except Samsung and LG ofcourse lol

How about HTC U11? Or Huawei P10?

daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
How about HTC U11? Or Huawei P10?
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I don't like Htc...and Huawei P10 is too expencive,450€ is too much for me,300-350€ is maximum for me...

welder73 said:
I don't like Htc...and Huawei P10 is too expencive,450€ is too much for me,300-350€ is maximum for me...
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I see.. Then go for OP3T, it's a really good device with tons of custom rom.. I never use OP3T but i have OP3 before, but i swapped it for LG V20 because i can't live without SD Expandable...LOL
Btw, if you can't live without expandable memory like me... Getting a Huawei P9 or Moto Z is the best alternative ( based on your list )..

Why not keeping the G4?
Buy a new battery and thazs it.
There is no improvement on the mentioned devices.
With some debloating and tweaking the G4 is an awesome device.
Edit and with 35$ you can add wireless charging

Cozmos23 said:
Why not keeping the G4?
Buy a new battery and thazs it.
There is no improvement on the mentioned devices.
With some debloating and tweaking the G4 is an awesome device.
Edit and with 35$ you can add wireless charging
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And then what? To wait for another bootloop? To be 20 days or more without a phone?
It WAS a good phone,for 20 months,but no thanks...

The sellprice for used G4 is too low.
Its just a simple effort use calculation.
And well yea probably waiting for another bootloop, if it happens
And you save a bunch of money which you can spend elsewhere or save it to buy this years flagship next year.
Maybe LG G6?
That would be worth the upgrade.

Wait for the LG V30. Hopefully it still has a removable back

Who the hell counts with months after a year ? It's like moms saying her baby is 74 weeks old wtf

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Wait for the LG V30. Hopefully it still has a removable back
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No it's not going to have removable back since it is also a glass designed like G6.... LG already moved on from having a removable battery..
This is why i'm having a LG V20 instead of LG G6 as an upgrade from my rusty LG G4..
LG also ditched the secondary display for LG V30 which is too bad for me because the secondary screen is actually quite useful for my daily usage..

Emin3ms said:
Who the hell counts with months after a year ? It's like moms saying her baby is 74 weeks old wtf
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A lot of people actually do.
we say 18 monts instead of 1.5 years. We 24mo ths instead of 2 years
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And then what? To wait for another bootloop? To be 20 days or more without a phone?
It WAS a good phone,for 20 months,but no thanks...
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About how long mine made it but it failed for other reasons. But killer for about 20 months
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Other than no root im kickin the g5. I love it.

I am a G4 fan. I have been using a blacklisted H811 as wifi phone for a year (12 months :silly. I even got an LG RMA number to fix the boot loop problem, in the hopes they would change the imei when they did it and I could maybe get it on cell service. It wasn't boot looping and I could probably still send it in but i heard they come back with the same imei so i haven't sent it in. I would really love to get it on a network, i really enjoy a lot of the features that is has.
I liked it so much i decided to get a V10 refurb (just a few days ago....72 hours or so ) and it seemed very nice to me, it was in really great condition but not a big step up from the G4, the small screen was ok but I am older and my eyes are not what they used to be, the small screen is...small. I didn't really think i would use the fingerprint scanner but it isn't a bad feature. I had it rooted a couple of hours (120 minutes...Ok, I will stop now ) but there is not a lot of developer action and i don't know how to create my own roms, even the Lineage guys are not doing much with it that i know of, that is what i run on my G4 and I like it. After a day with the V10 I noticed it kept dropping the wifi signal and from what little investigating I did, the T Mobile version seems to have this problem, courtesy of Team T Mobile. Not a hardware but a built in software problem. Wifi is a huge issue with me and without developer support to help me out, into the return envelope it went and back to the seller.
I like G4s well enough and they just seem like a lot of phone for the prices they are now. I found out the best service provider in my area is Verizon and i have never had Verizon service so I ordered a VS986 even though I knew the bootloaders are locked down tight and I probably would not get it rooted. I got it today and it was in excellent condition. I fired it up and within three minutes it was bootlooping. :crying: I saw this thread looking for the same thing as the OP but I am still open to a G4 but really want to put it on a Verizon MVNO if possible. I just don't know how well an 815 would work on Verizon if at all, that is if could sift thru all the 815 variants, an Fm radio would be nice and i want an IR blaster. I know most of the US G4's dont have FM radios except maybe Sprint, i forget.
If anyone has any experience with an 815 on Verizon I would be glad to hear it. I don't know if i will risk another refurb G4 or maybe start looking at the Moto X pure or one of the Moto G's, they are a little more than i want to spend. I know i want 64 bit Snapdraggon at least equal or better than the G4s. I know it is a difficult thing to find, the G4s just offer a lot for the money to me. I am still considering trying another 896 and even an 810 but if a G4 that can be rooted will work well on Verizon that would be my first choice. Sorry for the novelette length post.

One Moto Z showed up in the ads,4 months old,with 2 year guarantee from operator...
My question is:
Is there a chance that someone can mess up the battery with some incorrectly charging or something?

cc

Well,this thread can be closed now,I bought Moto Z today and I really like it! ?
To all of you who still have G4 I wish all the best and that bootloop doesn't happen to you :fingers-crossed:

Still a great buy today June 2020?

Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.

Galeonero said:
Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.
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$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)

antintin said:
$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)
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The price is the only one I get in Argentina, I can't buy on eBay.

If you don't care about updates, the software works out of the box. You do not have to restrict, disable, deactivate applications. Everything is working properly.

The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.

Hi, how are you? I tell you my experience, I have had the LG G8s ThinQ for three months and for now no problem, except as they said above, the topic of the updates because it has not yet been updated to Android 10 being high-end of 2019. But someday it will arrive for sure . Beyond that, excellent equipment, supports any application and game without problems or lags. Great screen, perfect audio, beautiful design. I am quite satisfied except for the updates because I really like modifying the system (modding). I bought it in Argentina together with your LG W7 watch.

I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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runderekrun said:
The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?

DJW35 said:
I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?
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I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks

runderekrun said:
I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks
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Then use a gsi

antintin said:
Then use a gsi
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Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)

runderekrun said:
Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)
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Are you on android 10?

antintin said:
Are you on android 10?
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Yes i am

runderekrun said:
Yes i am
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How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version

I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.

spizzlo said:
I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.
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You can root though. But since you've done all the updates (I'm assuming the one today was may or June patch), you can only do it if you had a kdz available for your model. But I'm pretty sure all the qm ones do, so go for root if you'd like

antintin said:
How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version
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I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.

runderekrun said:
I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.
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No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all

antintin said:
No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all
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Legend if so.

runderekrun said:
Legend if so.
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I was planning on doing it yesterday, but I've been a bit busy switching from windows to Linux. I'll do it asap tomorrow