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Getting Updates?

I just unblocked my rooted AFTV to check for the remote control update but it's not showing any. I also checked for a system update but none are showing there either. I rebooted the unit to see if that would trigger anything but nothing. I am currently on version 51.1.0.2....and my remote version is 349 (I believe the update is 351?) Any idea how to get the updates?
Thanks!!

Something tells me that is Amazon's scheme since we now have root access for the old and current update,and they are leaving it unaccessible until they patch root in the next update.
Now we have to risk bricking our Fire TVs when installing the update manually using root access.

retroben said:
Something tells me that is Amazon's scheme since we now have root access for the old and current update,and they are leaving it unaccessible until they patch root in the next update.
Now we have to risk bricking our Fire TVs when installing the update manually using root access.
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But it's weird that others are getting the updates...there must me something to entice the update to start? PLus I'd be willing to unroot since I'm not really using it much anyway...I only sideloaded a few apps with Terminal....but I believe that can be done anyway...

mikespe said:
But it's weird that others are getting the updates...there must me something to entice the update to start? PLus I'd be willing to unroot since I'm not really using it much anyway...I only sideloaded a few apps with Terminal....but I believe that can be done anyway...
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According to Amazon support, if you can get one who is even aware of the update, the update is being rolled out incrementally but he didn;t know if it was XXXX amount a night or a week.

retroben said:
Something tells me that is Amazon's scheme since we now have root access for the old and current update,and they are leaving it unaccessible until they patch root in the next update.
Now we have to risk bricking our Fire TVs when installing the update manually using root access.
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Humm.. couldn't you just do a "factory reset" I just assumed that option would restore your FTV back to "NEW" condition... hence wiping everything you've added, but I don't see how that would put you in risk of "Bricking"
I'm saying this, as I thought about this myself, because it seems so easy to add XBMC root, and sideload the few apps I use.
Of course my system is very simple and basic. the only options I've added is to launch XBMC using the 'Classic TV' llama app, swap ... and swapped out the preview graphic.
I could probably redue my whole system from scratch (including a restore from XBMC) in 15-20 mins.

Even without root, not everybody has the update yet.

How to re enable ota updates

I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance

tallica2002 said:
I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance
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Well that depends on how you blocked it in the first place. But if you do the update right NOW, you WILL lose root and you can just assume you'll never get it back. If you want to wait a little, then you won't lose root.

tallica2002 said:
I have blocked OTA updates on my FTV and need to change the firmware and I need to know how to re enable OTA updates. Thanks in advance
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You can change your firmware without re-enabling updates, unless you blocked it at a host file level or like @rbox said, sit tight for a few days/weeks.

roligov said:
You can change your firmware without re-enabling updates, unless you blocked it at a host file level or like @rbox said, sit tight for a few days/weeks.
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Thanks!

blocked ota
PLAGWEZ said:
Thanks!
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I blocked it with rootjunky's firmware restore tool. I am not wanting to update the firmware I am wanting to downgrade the firmware.

tallica2002 said:
I blocked it with rootjunky's firmware restore tool. I am not wanting to update the firmware I am wanting to downgrade the firmware.
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Upgrading or Downgrading, doesn't make a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796067

0TA updates
roligov said:
Upgrading or Downgrading, doesn't make a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796067
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yes I have tried all of that and keep getting error no space left on device when I have like 4 gb left I figured it was because I blocked the updates any ideas?

No it's not because the updates are block, it's probably because you out of space in your cache partition. ADB shell to the box and run
ll /cache
If you have any bin files, delete them.

roligov said:
No it's not because the updates are block, it's probably because you out of space in your cache partition. ADB shell to the box and run
ll /cache/recovery
If you have any bin files, delete them.
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Hmmm... I wonder if filling the cache partition with junk is another effective way to block updates.

AFTVnews.com said:
Hmmm... I wonder if filling the cache partition with junk is another effective way to block updates.
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Well you need root to write to /cache.

rbox said:
Well you need root to write to /cache.
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Yeah, I just meant as an alternative to disabling the update package. For example, even though I don't want to install updates on my primary Fire TV, I still want to know when a new update is available. That's why I opt to block via my router instead of disabling the update package. Someone with a similar desire to know when an update is available without the ability to block via their router could fill their cache partition instead of disabling the update package.
I'm just thinking outloud here. I doubt there are many, if any, who would choose to block that way.

AFTVnews.com said:
Yeah, I just meant as an alternative to disabling the update package. For example, even though I don't want to install updates on my primary Fire TV, I still want to know when a new update is available. That's why I opt to block via my router instead of disabling the update package. Someone with a similar desire to know when an update is available without the ability to block via their router could fill their cache partition instead of disabling the update package.
I'm just thinking outloud here. I doubt there are many, if any, who would choose to block that way.
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And of course if anyone was ever able to figure out how to write to /cache without root, we'd be able to downgrade without root. But I spent a few days researching it and came up with nothing. You either need to have your package in /system or signed with the platform key, neither of which we can do without root to begin with.

[Q] Howto setup new Firephone with Safestrap / Root / Block updates

Could someone point out the steps for me to get my newly bought Firephone working without the fear of bricking it or loosing root?
I want to achieve:
- root
- block updates
- install latest possible Amazon Firmware
- ability to install CM11 later
If possible please point me to the relevant threads here in the right order.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/help/installing-root-safestrap-cm11-t3157339
Most of the info is here, you may have to check elsewhere for blocking updates though.
Latest firmware can always be installed via OTA or by downloading the update file from here http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201607550 and placing it in the root of your storage, then going into device settings and selecting check for updates, in which case it'll detect the file.
i recommend holding off on doing an Over The Air update as 4.6.6 seems to be giving users some issue, I've seen reports of not being able to root so it might be best to download 4.6.3 until things are clarified.

The walkthrough in my signature should cover all of that. Romario is right about 4.6.6 for now.

Rooted Gen 1 FireTV - I don't really use Root, am I missing anything updating to 5.0?

So I rooted my 1st Gen FireTV as soon as I got it, and I think I'm on the very first Firmware. I had blocked OTA updates and as far as I know have never updated. that being said, I don't think I've ever done much that actually used the Root functionality. The only thing I really do is use Kodi 15.1 annnnndddd thats it.
I do own an Amazon Echo, and saw that Alexa is now part of the new FTV update. Not sure if I can link them together and just boss my FTV around via the Echo or not, but I like the idea of more / updated functionality from my FireTV
Soooo thoughts? Am I missing anything great by updating and giving up Root? I have seen that I could update with pre-rooted firmware but then I would have to install CRM / Recovery, then do incrimental upgrades after installing a Bootmenu, etc. That seems like a lot of stuff I need in place and a lot of points of failure or bricking for something I'm not sure I even need =/
If so, what would you suggest is the easiest way to re-enable OTA updates? I was going to ADB and use pm enable com.amazon.dcp Thanks for any advice, by the way, I'm pretty new at this.

Well OK then =/

Well, like many things, the answer is up to you.
If you have no need for root then you have no need to for root.
I like, many others, prefer the option of having root, recovery and unlocked bootloaders.
If you don't use anything Amazon and only use it for Kodi then root will give you the ability to freeze the FireTV Launcher have Kodi set as Home.
Installing recovery and a updated pre-rooted ROM isn't too difficult and you've done the 'hard' part by having root already.
Update wise, unless you want to be running the latest versions then yes you'll have to on top of it otherwise you can just update to the current version and be done with it.
You can check back every now and then to see what the additional updates from Amazon fix or what features it adds and decide then if you want to update.

Got an Amazon Fire TV 4K - Shall I update? What version is the best for me?

Hey guys,
we had a nice Fire TV 4K sale here in Germany and so I got that little box. However, now I am a bit confused and I hope that you could help me out.
Shall I update the box?
I learned that I need to root the Box in order to be able to connected my external HDD that is formated with NTFS. That is because originally the Fire TV does not support NTFS. I also learned that getting root is still possible with the newest two fireware versions but way more complicated because you need a A-to-A USB cable.
Of course I could block updates and just root the firmware that is currently installed. But I learned that Kodi is way better integrated into the interface of the newer firmwares. Is it possible to root the old firmware, do an OTA update and still have root on the newest firmware?
Since there are several firmwares out there. Is there any best firmware version that you recommend?

wohltat said:
Hey guys,
we had a nice Fire TV 4K sale here in Germany and so I got that little box. However, now I am a bit confused and I hope that you could help me out.
Shall I update the box?
I learned that I need to root the Box in order to be able to connected my external HDD that is formated with NTFS. That is because originally the Fire TV does not support NTFS. I also learned that getting root is still possible with the newest two fireware versions but way more complicated because you need a A-to-A USB cable.
Of course I could block updates and just root the firmware that is currently installed. But I learned that Kodi is way better integrated into the interface of the newer firmwares. Is it possible to root the old firmware, do an OTA update and still have root on the newest firmware?
Since there are several firmwares out there. Is there any best firmware version that you recommend?
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not sure if this will help.
http://www.aftvnews.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-usb-storage-with-the-amazon-fire-tv/

You could go with either the latest 5.0.5.1 or with 5.0.5. I personally use 5.0.5 because I like using Firestarter to access all my sideloaded apps. Until Firestarter is officially updated by the programmer, you could use Firestopper which has been updated to work on 5.0.5.1.
I also wirelessly transfer movies to my external hard drive which is an NTFS drive so that I can have HD video. I have use the Kingroot method and the USB cable method. I'd also recommend aftvnews.com for guides as they are a great resource (especially for windows users). I also have guides for Mac users over at marksmods.com

How can I install the 5.0.5, I am still on the 5.0.3.1 and I guess the 5.0.5 would be better for me (used it on my aftv stick before) autoupdates will probably lead me to 5.0.5.1, which I try to avoid due to firestarter and sky go

shaDNfro said:
How can I install the 5.0.5, I am still on the 5.0.3.1 and I guess the 5.0.5 would be better for me (used it on my aftv stick before) autoupdates will probably lead me to 5.0.5.1, which I try to avoid due to firestarter and sky go
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http://www.aftvnews.com helped me a lot. You root with kingroot, install recovery, install prerooted 5.0.5.1. Just follow their instructions.

wohltat said:
http://www.aftvnews.com helped me a lot. You root with kingroot, install recovery, install prerooted 5.0.5.1. Just follow their instructions.
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Thx for your reply, I checked that page. But what I really want is the following:
I am currently under 5.0.3.1 original and I want to have 5.0.5 (not 5.0.5.1), but without root! (SkyGo does not run on rooted devices, if it detects root).
I could perform OTA update --> would lead me to 5.0.5.1
What I really want is a way to push the official 5.0.5 to my aftv (best withoug kingrooting, due to the fact you need a full whipe, wich may also then give problems to my sky go accounts, which are limmited).
Is there some way to get an official rom, which I then can push via adb or put it on my aftv, that the aftv detects it and installs it ?
(I can still block the ota update after I am on 5.0.5)...
Bests,
shaDN

Is no one providing the original rom? However, in order to install it, you would need to root and install a recovery first anyways. Just instead of installing a prerooted rom you would install a not rooted one.

hmm, there must be a way to place an update somewhere on the aftv, that the aftv recognizes it as an official update and install it...

just installed 5.0.4, then 5.0.5 then unplugged lan and blocked updates
I love the new update routine