[Q] XBMC - Gotham power/favs icons? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just ordered/received my second AFTV , built it trying to minimize the use of memory. I just installed llama,autopilot,towelroot,SU & XBMC.
On my first AFTV I installed SPMC, which has the original home page, lower left 'favs/power' control icons. The build of Gotham XBMC seems to have these removed for some reason? I don't really care about the power icon/control but I'm really missing the favs 'star' is there anyway to get that back?

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[Q] Blocked from getting into any of the Settings Tabs

I can reboot my Amazon Fire TV right into XBMC but when I exit XBMC and try to go into Settings and then Applications, nothing happens.... Any Ideas?
peter_d4 said:
I can reboot my Amazon Fire TV right into XBMC but when I exit XBMC and try to go into Settings and then Applications, nothing happens.... Any Ideas?
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Uninstall the XBMC auto launcher, install FireDtv launcher. then move the XBMC icon to the top left corner so it's the first app your remote hits. You will then no longer have any problems with the XBMC being launched first and the trouble that can bring in some circumstances.
nyder said:
Uninstall the XBMC auto launcher, install FireDtv launcher. then move the XBMC icon to the top left corner so it's the first app your remote hits. You will then no longer have any problems with the XBMC being launched first and the trouble that can bring in some circumstances.
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Trouble? My xbmc is always auto launched and tied to my home button. Never caused a single issue and super convenient. Just curious.
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In XBMC use the default (Confluence) skin. Go to Programs. Enter and go to Android Programs. Find KFTV Launcher. Highlight and use the Menu button on the remote to make it a Favorite. You can now access the FTV home screen from XBMC
jmerrilljr2 said:
In XBMC use the default (Confluence) skin. Go to Programs. Enter and go to Android Programs. Find KFTV Launcher. Highlight and use the Menu button on the remote to make it a Favorite. You can now access the FTV home screen from XBMC
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[Q] What launcher for my purposes? FiredTV?

I have Gotham with Xposed and rbox. My FTV is rooted. I read the wiki but have some confusion.
Would FiredTV still show the default Amazon menu for a second, or would it be better because I'm rooted?
I want something like FiredTV that will show my sideloaded apps on boot up, but I would like to avoid the "blink" of showing the default menu for a second. Is FiredTV the best or should I pick something else?
I want the first screen to let me choose from my favorites. XBMC, Amazon's menu, or a few other apps. If possible I want to "pin" my favorite Amazon-supported apps there (I want to put Pluto.TV's Fire TV app.)
Thanks for any help.
dreamy said:
I have Gotham with Xposed and rbox. My FTV is rooted. I read the wiki but have some confusion.
Would FiredTV still show the default Amazon menu for a second, or would it be better because I'm rooted?
I want something like FiredTV that will show my sideloaded apps on boot up, but I would like to avoid the "blink" of showing the default menu for a second. Is FiredTV the best or should I pick something else?
I want the first screen to let me choose from my favorites. XBMC, Amazon's menu, or a few other apps. If possible I want to "pin" my favorite Amazon-supported apps there (I want to put Pluto.TV's Fire TV app.)
Thanks for any help.
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with exposed and firedTV you wont see the blink of the amazon menu, but it is accessable via an icon in firedTV you can add and remove icons with firedTV, everything installed should show up automatically. imo its the best solution since it works fully with a remote with a new version on the way with some nice improvements.
Installed a few mins ago. It's very good so far.

[Q] Cinema Addon for XBMC - Anyone know how to get this to work?

Has anyone figured out how to get the CINEMA EXPERIENCE addon running on XBMC 13.2 Gotham on an Amazon Fire TV?
I was able to install it just fine. Since the default Confluence skin doesn't have any built in support, I installed Aeon Nox and tried to add shortcuts to the main menu with this action:
RunAddOn(script.cinema.experience)
But this did not work. Then, I tried adding a button to activate it on the submenu with this action:
XBMC.RunScript(script.cinema.experience)
And this didn't work either.
I've been searching google for several hours now and can't figure out how to make this addon work?
Neo3D said:
Has anyone figured out how to get the CINEMA EXPERIENCE addon running on XBMC 13.2 Gotham on an Amazon Fire TV?
I was able to install it just fine. Since the default Confluence skin doesn't have any built in support, I installed Aeon Nox and tried to add shortcuts to the main menu with this action:
RunAddOn(script.cinema.experience)
But this did not work. Then, I tried adding a button to activate it on the submenu with this action:
XBMC.RunScript(script.cinema.experience)
And this didn't work either.
I've been searching google for several hours now and can't figure out how to make this addon work?
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If the skin has support for it you go into the movie info of a movie and there will be a button for it. I use Metropolis and it works well without having to do any modifications.
In Aeon Nox highlight the movie, then hit the menu/context key. This brings up movie info. All the way to right there is a"+" icon. This brings up a pull-down with Cinema Experience. First up was the trailer for Inherent Vice!

Amazon Apps on Nova Launcher

I've read in several different places that people use Nova Launcher with the Fire TV. Since I've already purchased Nova Launcher Prime, I figured this would be a particularly good option for me.
The problem I'm running into is that I can't launch most of the Amazon apps. If I try Amazon Video, the screen just flashes and then goes back to the app drawer. If I tried Appstore or Amazon Music, I get "permission denid" (Amazon FreeTime, oddly enough, works just fine, as does the Fire TV App Tutorial, but I don't need either of those ). My Fire TV is rooted, and running the latest firmware version.
Has anyone else seen this, and if so, do you have a solution? I can't find any mention of it by searching the web, which makes me think it might be an issue introduced with recent firmware versions. It occurred to me it might have something to do with root: when I rooted my daughter's Kindle Fire, we couldn't watch Amazon videos on it without turning root off temporarily. I can't find a way to turn off root temporarily using SU on the Fire TV, though--there's no way to launnch SuperSU from Settings, and attempting to launch it from the Nova app drawer does nothing.
Given this problem, I abandoned Nova Launcher and tried several other things. XBMC/SPMC is nice, but it doesn't give easy access to Android apps, without some finagling (I'll install the non-launcher version of SPMC so that my wife can browse TV). I've seen mentions of several launchers for Google TV or Android set top boxes, but most of those can't be found anymore, or they don't work on the Fire TV.
However, I eventually was able to make Nova work, by adding a shortcut to the Fire TV Launcher on a home screen: when adding something to a home screen, select "Shortcuts", then "Activities". There are several paths to the Fire TV home screen, the simplest probably being the "Home" activity under "KFTV Launcher"--there's also at least one under "Android System" (the one ending in "ChooserActivity"), and another somewhere else I can't remember. Once I put the shortcut in place, I edited the icon, using the green one for Amazon Instant Video. Interestingly, even using the Activities Shortcuts method, you can't go directly into videos, music, etc.--you get a "Permission denied".
Of course, to make Nova work as the launcher, I'm using rbox's mods package, which includes support for an alternate launcher: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786618
OK...so the above solution isn't completely unproblematic: if any apps are open (including apps opened directly from Nova--even sideloaded apps), opening the Fire TV Launcher goes to those apps. The only way I've been able to get back to the menu (other than hitting the "Back" button a lot) is to go into System Settings from Nova Launcher. What I probably need is an app that'll force stop KFTV--but that's ugly and time-consuming. Any suggestions?
EDIT: That was easy. When creating app shortcuts on the Nova home screen, I hadn't seen a KFTV Launcher app--but it's there, called "Home", and that one always goes to the KFTV home menu.

Nova Launcher

I originally posted this in reply to the HD Widgets post but thought it should have its own thread under Nova Launcher:
I can confirm Nova Prime and HD Widgets work on my rooted AFTV with Rbox's mods. Was using Fired TV until I read the posts about HD Widgets. No comparison. Now have an App Drawer, a Dock if I want it, and the ability to Drag icons around to reorder. Can't change wallpaper. Icons are resizable, can be dragged mid-grid and number Rows and Columns is adjustable. Icons and Labels can be edited. Haven't got around to trying Gestures and other features like Folders.
I installed Nova through Google Play. Don't know if can be installed from the Amazon Appstore.
schneid said:
I originally posted this in reply to the HD Widgets post but thought it should have its own thread under Nova Launcher:
I can confirm Nova Prime and HD Widgets work on my rooted AFTV with Rbox's mods. Was using Fired TV until I read the posts about HD Widgets. No comparison. Now have an App Drawer, a Dock if I want it, and the ability to Drag icons around to reorder. Can't change wallpaper. Icons are resizable, can be dragged mid-grid and number Rows and Columns is adjustable. Icons and Labels can be edited. Haven't got around to trying Gestures and other features like Folders.
I installed Nova through Google Play. Don't know if can be installed from the Amazon Appstore.
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Some screenshots would be good once you have it setup close to an ideal setup... Maybe you can use the Amazon FireTV Utility App to take them. Also I am guessing you have the Google Store & all the dependencies installed for it to work correctly...
Some one told me of another Launcher that works & should be very good for the FireTV but have only installed it on a FireTV Stick but haven't had time to set it up. I have just made sure it boots.
Y314K said:
Some screenshots would be good once you have it setup close to an ideal setup... Maybe you can use the Amazon FireTV Utility App to take them. Also I am guessing you have the Google Store & all the dependencies installed for it to work correctly...
Some one told me of another Launcher that works & should be very good for the FireTV but have only installed it on a FireTV Stick but haven't had time to set it up. I have just made sure it boots.
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I'll try to take some screenshots. Thanks for the AFTV UA tip to take them. I went with Nova as I own it and am used to it. it is overkill so maybe something simpler would be better.
Yes, all four Google Play apps installed.
Nova Prime Launcher ScreenShots
ScreenShots of Nova Launcher Prime running on AFTV.
I have it working well too. I've tried everything I can think of to get wallpaper working. It's a no-go. It seems Amazon must've completely removed that functionality from the FTV. No launcher has it working.
xm41907 said:
I have it working well too. I've tried everything I can think of to get wallpaper working. It's a no-go. It seems Amazon must've completely removed that functionality from the FTV. No launcher has it working.
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It is supposed to work in FiredTV but not for me.
schneid said:
It is supposed to work in FiredTV but not for me.
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The entire wallpaper settings has been removed. I installed the settings.apk found elsewhere in this forum to get bluetooth keyboards working and if you try to go under display - wallpapers, its dead. Setting a wallpaper through quickpic or other such app does nothing either. I'm content with a black background though, considering all the advantages.
Do Amazon Prime videos still work doing this?
schneid said:
ScreenShots of Nova Launcher Prime running on AFTV.
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Man.. That looks good with the black background... Not bad at all.
1. Is there a shortlink to go back into the FTV Original UI ?
2. Have you setup LLama or some other prog like it to auto boot into Nova Launcher at bootup ?
3. Do you expand the storage. You seem to have ton of apps installed. Wonder how your storage space doing ?
4. Do you have the Settings.apk installed ? Wonder what APK might need to be installed to get the wallpapers working..
xm41907 said:
I have it working well too. I've tried everything I can think of to get wallpaper working. It's a no-go. It seems Amazon must've completely removed that functionality from the FTV. No launcher has it working.
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RIght.. But there might be something we can install to get that back... I'm hoping..
krawhitham said:
Do Amazon Prime videos still work doing this?
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If you freeze the stock FTV launcher, then no. I've stumbled upon a way to keep it in place and still use NOVA as the launcher. I'm going to be pulling together a post with video about my system setup soon.
schneid said:
It is supposed to work in FiredTV but not for me.
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That's not a FireTV wide UI WallPaper but it's done from within the FiredTV App...
xm41907 said:
The entire wallpaper settings has been removed. I installed the settings.apk found elsewhere in this forum to get bluetooth keyboards working and if you try to go under display - wallpapers, its dead. Setting a wallpaper through quickpic or other such app does nothing either. I'm content with a black background though, considering all the advantages.
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Well that sucks.. Wonder if some other launcher might handle wallpapers from within itself like FiredTV... But the black background should keep the speed up. And it doesn't look bad at all...
krawhitham said:
Do Amazon Prime videos still work doing this?
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Good ?... I am guessing you can change back to the FireTV UI to get it work.
1. Is there a shortlink to go back into the FTV Original UI ?
Yes. See screen shots. Top left icon. Called "Home" in apps. "Home" key does it too.
2. Have you setup LLama or some other prog like it to auto boot into Nova Launcher at bootup ?
No. Rbox Mods do this. I boot into
3. Do you expand the storage. You seem to have ton of apps installed. Wonder how your storage space doing ?
Everything works so not worried so far.
4. Do you have the Settings.apk installed ?
Yes.
Wonder what APK might need to be installed to get the wallpapers working..
i don't have a clue but don't care that much.
krawhitham said:
Do Amazon Prime videos still work doing this?
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Do for me. just have to use "Home" app which loads the original AFTV launcher. "Home" key goes back to Nova.
I use nova on my phone and really like it. My only concern is the fact it's made for touch. Does the aftv stock remote control everything here? (Minus customizations of course) Aftv remote is all I have. Wukong app works pretty well but would rather be able to just use the regular remote.
KLit75 said:
I use nova on my phone and really like it. My only concern is the fact it's made for touch. Does the aftv stock remote control everything here? (Minus customizations of course) Aftv remote is all I have. Wukong app works pretty well but would rather be able to just use the regular remote.
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Once setup you can move around with the Arrow keys and use the Select, Exit, and Home buttons. To configure it, you really need a "mouse" That can be a USB mouse, a trackpad, or a phone app. My go to device is a Logitech K400 keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Built-In-Multi-Touch/dp/B005DKZTMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420720596&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+k400
I ave also used DroidMote on my phone. You need the client and server:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteclient
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteserver
For day-to-day use I use my Logitech Harmony ONE remote along with Flirc that feeds IR commands via USB to the AFTV.
If you have money to blow, get a Harmony Ultimate Home:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-915-000237-Ultimate-Entertainment-Automation/dp/B00N3RFCBE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420721028&sr=8-2&keywords=B00N3RFC4G|B00N3RFC4Q|B00N3RFCBE
I thought about it but in my opinion, Harmony setup is hard, and I did not want to go through the pain when my ONE works fine provided you use a Flirc which is also a pain..
schneid said:
Once setup you can move around with the Arrow keys and use the Select, Exit, and Home buttons. To configure it, you really need a "mouse" That can be a USB mouse, a trackpad, or a phone app. My go to device is a Logitech K400 keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Built-In-Multi-Touch/dp/B005DKZTMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420720596&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+k400
I ave also used DroidMote on my phone. You need the client and server:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteclient
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteserver
For day-to-day use I use my Logitech Harmony ONE remote along with Flirc that feeds IR commands via USB to the AFTV.
If you have money to blow, get a Harmony Ultimate Home:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-915-000237-Ultimate-Entertainment-Automation/dp/B00N3RFCBE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420721028&sr=8-2&keywords=B00N3RFC4G|B00N3RFC4Q|B00N3RFCBE
I thought about it but in my opinion, Harmony setup is hard, and I did not want to go through the pain when my ONE works fine provided you use a Flirc which is also a pain..
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Thanks. I'm gonna try to set it up tomorrow. I have a mouse and keyboard but only use it for certain apps once in a great while and cwm. By all accounts the harmony is awesome but I'd rather put money elsewhere for now. I might pickup a melee f10 pro.
Some people think aftv has a smooth simple GUI, but I think its a mess! Especially the way prime movies and TV are thrown in everywhere. Llama's not a must but there are WAY too many clicks occurring to get to xbmc. That dev deserves great praise. But nova might be a much better option overall. Thanks again!
xm41907 said:
I have it working well too. I've tried everything I can think of to get wallpaper working. It's a no-go. It seems Amazon must've completely removed that
functionality from the FTV. No launcher has it working.
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you are wrong about the wallpapers not working. I tried over 100 launchers and some of them do have wallpapers that work by default. Nobody probably took time to try any launchers besides the popular launchers so they assumed if the wallpaper did not work on them that they would not work on any launcher, but they do on more than 10 launchers that I know of. I am not gonna do all the work for anyone, but I will share three launchers that the wallpaper works on, squarehd launcher, chameleon launcher and honeycomb launcher. all the lanchers that the wallpaper work on seem to be old launchers, and as I said over 10 launchers I have found work, but most all of them were made by the same developer and are the same just have a different name, so basically there are really around six launchers that the wallpapers work on. if we can find someone that can figure out what the three launchers above share in common then we can probably find out why the other launchers wallpapers do not work. I have not ried, but I am also thinking that old versions of some of the more popular launchers may work as well, but I do not have any old apk files to try.
Forgot to mention in my last post that Buzz Launcher also works. Wallpapers are displayed by default. Also, the latest update works and it is updated frequently. You might have a problem getting past the first screen, cause you have to activate the launcher with a two finger swipe, but you do not really need to swipe, just take your mouse cursor to the top of the screen and click once and its the same as a two finger swipe.
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you are wrong about the wallpapers not working. I tried over 100 launchers and some of them do have wallpapers that work by default. Nobody probably took time to try any launchers besides the popular launchers so they assumed if the wallpaper did not work on them that they would not work on any launcher, but they do on more than 10 launchers that I know of. I am not gonna do all the work for anyone, but I will share three launchers that the wallpaper works on, squarehd launcher, chameleon launcher and honeycomb launcher. all the lanchers that the wallpaper work on seem to be old launchers, and as I said over 10 launchers I have found work, but most all of them were made by the same developer and are the same just have a different name, so basically there are really around six launchers that the wallpapers work on. if we can find someone that can figure out what the three launchers above share in common then we can probably find out why the other launchers wallpapers do not work. I have not ried, but I am also thinking that old versions of some of the more popular launchers may work as well, but I do not have any old apk files to try.
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I was referring to the use of the native android wallpaper function, not that no launcher has the ability to project a wallpaper on the FTV. Yes, there are quite a few launchers that have built-in wallpaper functionality, such as Firedtv, the only FTV specific launcher available. Of the ones you mentioned, I'm only familiar with Chameleon and from what I recall, it used it's own wallpaper system.
porkenhimer said:
Forgot to mention in my last post that Buzz Launcher also works. Wallpapers are displayed by default. Also, the latest update works and it is updated frequently. You might have a problem getting past the first screen, cause you have to activate the launcher with a two finger swipe, but you do not really need to swipe, just take your mouse cursor to the top of the screen and click once and its the same as a two finger swipe.
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Hi, I played a little around with the Buzz Launcher and it looks like a very decent launcher with a lot options and themes. I like it so far, however I can't make any of the widgets to work. Any advice on how to make them work? I tried "HD Widgets" and Play Store Widgets. Also, any suggestion on how to get rid of the annoying "Two-finger Swipe Down" Notification? It keeps coming back after closing an app or when the launcher starts.

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