IMPORTANT: Stable to me means little to no bugs after months of use, not hours or days. This is not a thread for experimentation
Hi there,
I'm currently using mildwild 4.3 on my original HTC desire.
The intention to begin with was to get a ROM that would be as stable as possible and would cause me as little fuss as possible and basically I could continue using with the desire until the desire itself gave up with battery, too many falls, a cracked screen etc, none of which has happened yet so is still going strong.
This phone is for business use and I don't enjoy having to change ROMS like a lot of users on the site would, I just want something that works and will give me the least amount of hassle.
The phone does restart itself on occasion but this has happened with other ROMS I've used too.
I'm not too pushed about having the latest and greatest apps and gadgets which may be offered in the latest android versions. I'm happy with what 4.3 offers, anything extra would be a bonus.
Now the issue with 4.3 again is the internal space. Right now if I go to apps > manage > all, I see I have 129MB used and 19MB free, I've been using LinksSD as an extra APP on 4.3 and have moved all I can to the SD card, so I can't free any more space. Unfortunately if I'm giving it heavy use and get a lot of emails etc, the USED/FREE ratio changes and if free gets to about 15MB, then I get the space warning and synching to the phone stops and I can't get important business information which I sync with the calendar etc.
I've managed to keep it steady around the 19mb mark but what prompted this message was the release of a new app I want which takes up 30mb as opposed to the current one on the phone taking up 10mb, I'm afraid this will use up my precious few MB and will give me the synching issues again.
So what I was wondering is, does Mildwild 5.5 (or greater) handle the internal space in a different way that as long as I have decent sized SD card, I should never have space issues with the internal memory? This is important also as both my friend and my father are having internal space issues with their original desire and if I find a solution would like to help them too.
If you could please advise on the most stable version of Mildwild for the HTC Desire and if there is one that handles the internal space differently to 4.3 and would therefore never give me internal space issues as long as I have a decent SD card inserted. 4.3 isn't the answer it seems, but hopefully there is an alternative?
Stability is of prime importance, given the phone is used and is crucial for my business and may be put on my father and friends phone too, I need to make sure I don't have to touch any phone due to bugs etc, hopefully ever! I'd also like everything to simply "work", video recording, bluetooth etc.
Any feedback, direct links to suggested ROMS etc would be greatly appreciated! I'd prefer to not stray away from Mildwild as before installing 4.3 I did a lot of research and I'd rather stick to what I know.
I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
cormie said:
Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
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5.5 is an old CM7 based Mildwild.
4.3 is an old Oxygen based Mildwild.
Newer oxygen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353861
I would choose oxygen because it is the most stable custom android rom I know.
And if you would like more space, either change hboot, or check the sd-card partition guide in my sig.
I concur with MW's Oxygen-based ROMs as the most stable and reliable choice for your phone. However, instead of the most recent version (called MW-4.9 JG), I'd recommend version MW-4.4.
Why? Because up until that version, the ROM base that MildWild used was Oxygen w/ roalex tweaks, and from MW-4.5 onwards he went back to pure Oxygen. I find the roalex tweaks to be a very nice extra touch to the ROM, they make it feel like a more polished, finished piece of work.
Bottom line is, it's the best ROM I ever had on my phone, and after using it for months I've yet to encounter problems with it.
Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
cormie said:
Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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Thanks again for the feedback. Given the problems I've seen this guy face before when things don't go smoothly, I think I'd rather have him at hand. I'm pretty much watching what he does and doing the phone end of things so learn as I go along anyway. I popped him a link to your post #7 above when I saw it so I'll see what he says. I'm probably going to do 3 phones at once too as my friend and father are having space issues aswell so be well worth having an expert on hand!
Actually, any chance of a link to the correct 4.4 I should be going for?
I'll drop a link later, and add some more links to my personal recommended tweaks (like island3r's modded kernel so you can use smartassV2 governor, etc.). I'll update this post.
ZEDIT: Here's the links:
- MildWild-V 4.4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zu8dquw2echwhd/MildWild_V-4.4.zip
- Latest Thalamus kernel modded by island3r: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31096646&highlight=smartassv2#post31096646
- AGPS patch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggtgzme8bqscbq3/agps.patch.google.build.alt.v3.1.zip
- Stock bootanimation (don't flash this, manually put it in /data/local on your device's internal memory): https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3tek2gq9678lzk/bootanimation.zip
You're welcome.
Hit thanks pretty please?
Thanks a lot for that. I don't want to complicate things too much as I think I'll be doing this to 4 phones at the one time, my own, my friends, my fathers and a back up desire I have for business. What would the tweaks do exactly?
I heard back from my android expert anyway and he said the following:
To the best of my memory (And my chat records!), your phone is on the stock HBOOT with the standard partitioning. If you'd like to go all the way and repartition the phone and set up a stable ROM w/ Apps2SD and all the bells and whistles, it can definitely be done but everything will be brought back to a clean slate on all three phones (Including the contents of the SD Card) so they'll all need to be backed up.
Ideally, what we could do is...
Change the HBOOT to Cm7 R2 or Oxygen R2 (Which is a bit more lean and splits it 100MB system and 332MB data)
Flash the latest stable Cm7 or Oxygen based ROM depending on what you prefer
With clean and empty SD cards, we'll partition it for 1-2GB apps2SD and set up the ROM to use that space
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So I guess I should stick to Oxygen for both the Hboot and the Rom? So Mildwild 4.4 and what about the Hboot? EDIT: Just saw that eddiehk6 suggested Cm7 R2, Which would be best in my situation I wonder?
Consdering I'm having space issues in the current set up, so applications > manage > all shows 129mb used, 20mb free, how much can I expect that to change by? It wouldn't be worth all the hassle on 4 phones if it's only going to make it an extra 50mb or so, will it completely change the way the space is handled and I should have no more space issues with moderate use until the phone packs in itself?
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I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
Thanks a lot for that and for all the links above too!! Very much appreciated, I'm not too tech as I said but I'll point the other guy to your posts and we'll hopefully get all the phones sorted to make the most of them and they'll be stable as possible until they compose
ZeGuitarist said:
Post updated.
I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
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Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
karthikus said:
Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
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You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
karthikus reminded me of one thing actually, in the current bluetooth settings on mildwild 4.3, it's not possible to rename bluetooth devices but apparently in ICS and JB it is, is it possible to get this functionality while doing the updates without risking stability I wonder?
It doesn't exactly solve my problem I posted about here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83280543 but it may help..
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You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
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How about replacing framework-res apk from latest MW Oxygen (which has JB animations) to the old version. Will it work coz they both have different base ?
I was telling my friend that I'd be able to help his memory issue and he said he found something that would give 2gb of internal memory, as opposed to the 332 or so I'd get from doing the methods above. It's described here: http://www.andreagrandi.it/2011/08/...emory-to-2gb-using-cyanogenmod-7-and-data2sd/
Does anyone know if this is indeed possible?
So, I finally rooted this old phone after all these years with the hopes of deleting a lot of the bloatware. I did, but now I realize that this has only freed up space on my system partition. I have an extra 50mb here. I am assuming there is no way to move space from this partition to my /data partition - even though they are both on the nand.
I searched the forums for a good hour and did not find an answer to this question. Do people use custom roms to avoid having wasted space in their system partition? I'm running the latest stock, which I rooted using htc, and I installed anon ra.
Thanks
mherlihy said:
So, I finally rooted this old phone after all these years with the hopes of deleting a lot of the bloatware. I did, but now I realize that this has only freed up space on my system partition. I have an extra 50mb here. I am assuming there is no way to move space from this partition to my /data partition - even though they are both on the nand.
I searched the forums for a good hour and did not find an answer to this question. Do people use custom roms to avoid having wasted space in their system partition? I'm running the latest stock, which I rooted using htc, and I installed anon ra.
Thanks
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Read this whole thread.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386911 ,then at the bottom of post 2 you will see some links,use the ones you need and yes you can free up space with DT's app2sd.
.. and to answer your specific question, a small amount of unused space in /system is normal and necessary. As you install more and more apps you may see this overhead decrease slightly. (Indeed, your OP indicates you have already observed this process in reverse.) You can get by with less than 10 megs. Because it is not available for any other use, anything much more than that is basically wasted space.
There was once a mod that attempted to realign partitions to reclaim this space. Search Google for "firerat".
The problem with this mod was that no scripts for flashing kernels or ROMs expect a non-standard alignment, which leads to disastrous results unless you remember to undo the mod every time you flash anything.
Note this mod is not much discussed anymore. This leads me to conclude that even if it still works, it's probably not worth the effort.
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Actually many of the long time users still use it. The problem is that the new sense roms eat most of the system partion up. Yet if you use an aosp rom you can get around an extra 100 meg depending on the setup. Also some of the newer scripts give you more space by using an extended sd partition.
I suggest if you are not comfortable flashing with fastboot not to use firerats mod. The mod wont really mess up anything but if you have forgotten you used it than you flash something else you could spend hours or days beating your head against the wall. Also if you change kernels then you have to flash a script to mod the new kernel to properly read the partitions.
To undo the mod you have to flash a new recovery through fastboot then erase partitions and reboot to recovery. Then flash new rom like normal.
Hope this helps you get an idea of what you are going into before you start.
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Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
prodeguerriero said:
Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
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Yes you can go back when you want to
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Yes you can go back when you want to
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
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init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
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Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Yeap. Because if you use link2sd you'll eventually reach a limit as I tried. And the storage will keep gettig full.
Yeap you can use link2sd I personally like to remove it because the menu looks messy and I have to scroll a lot to find my favourite apps so its your choice on whether you wanna remove it or not because int2ext increases your storage as it mounts sd-ext to.... I don't really get this stuff too but whatever
So far the latest android for the wfs is cm10. It is quite stable as YouTube, autobrightness and loads of stuff work. But the disadvantage is that its quite laggy and is a battery killer.
There is cm9 too. Its really smooth but there are bugs such as YouTube HQ videos playback, camcorder not fully supported and crap
Anytime happy to help
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Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:
Tarasque174 said:
Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:
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In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers
jocko6872 said:
Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers
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Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD
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Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko
Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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When I do a fresh install I do wipe everything, Dev,Internal SD. I do it twice just to be sure. This is pretty odd. When I did these steps with my Galaxy Tab Plus I would get a full internal HD space. This just makes me wonder if there was really 16Gb for internal storage.
jocko6872 said:
Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko
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No problem. I'm not real familiar with Sammy devices, although I am about to get an SGS III in a week or so. Funny it couldn't read the backup files though. Must be a peculiar thing with your version of CWM or TWRP. Seems they all store backups in different named files.
Glad you got it fixed though.
As for my experience, every time I ran a recent CM build (a501 and a701), it created directories and multiple sub directories called "0", and replicated back-ups and such. Ate my internal memory to a point where I just did a complete format on my internal and went back to a stock based rom. My own cooked rom's
Cheers
MD
this may seem like a uesless question but it's bugged me ever since I got my LGOG.
Does the stock LG UI (4.1.2) really eat up 5-7GB of space!?
The OG comes with 32GB of storage (although I know that it's not exactly 32GB since there's a lot of conversion stuff going on) and there's only 25GB of available storage space? I know a friend who has a 16GB Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 KitKat and the stock KitKat only eats up around 3-4GB of storage. Is LG's UI really that much of a storage hog?
Another thing, does the 4.4.2 update consume the same amount of space? or does it consume more? And what ROM eats the LEAST amount of storage?
Sidenote: I hope somebody can make a bare-bones 4.4.2 ROM that will eat up the least amount of space
vangeodee said:
this may seem like a uesless question but it's bugged me ever since I got my LGOG.
Does the stock LG UI (4.1.2) really eat up 5-7GB of space!?
The OG comes with 32GB of storage (although I know that it's not exactly 32GB since there's a lot of conversion stuff going on) and there's only 25GB of available storage space? I know a friend who has a 16GB Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 KitKat and the stock KitKat only eats up around 3-4GB of storage. Is LG's UI really that much of a storage hog?
Another thing, does the 4.4.2 update consume the same amount of space? or does it consume more? And what ROM eats the LEAST amount of storage?
Sidenote: I hope somebody can make a bare-bones 4.4.2 ROM that will eat up the least amount of space
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After flashing the kitkat I still got the 25 GB storage. My thoughts 25 GB storage is on the Data partition (user available for documents and files etc) rest of the space is in the system partition and in combine it called 32 GB. That is not the expert opinion just my thought I could be wrong
Internal storage is 32GB....which includes all the partitions like, data, system, boot, bootloader, modem, efs, etc...
Sent from my LG-E975 powering Stock 4.1.2
I recall reading somewhere here on the LGOG xda forum that somebody was able to get 28.5gb storage by installing a custom rom. I'll try to look for that post.
anyway, can somebody shed insight as to what eats up the 5gb? Titanium Backup says my System ROM is 2.11gb (hooray! just gotta wait for stripped down KK ROM!) and suprisingly.. Also shows 26.8gb of free space while settings>storage and clean master show only 25.04gb. Already now I'm really confused.
If what Titanium backup says is true, what's eating up the remaining 3gb? and if clean master is correct, what's eating the 5gb?
vangeodee said:
I recall reading somewhere here on the LGOG xda forum that somebody was able to get 28.5gb storage by installing a custom rom. I'll try to look for that post.
anyway, can somebody shed insight as to what eats up the 5gb? Titanium Backup says my System ROM is 2.11gb (hooray! just gotta wait for stripped down KK ROM!) and suprisingly.. Also shows 26.8gb of free space while settings>storage and clean master show only 25.04gb. Already now I'm really confused.
If what Titanium backup says is true, what's eating up the remaining 3gb? and if clean master is correct, what's eating the 5gb?
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Firmware, recovery, modem, etc etc and mostly reserved for apps, i think. Of course nexuses use less storage since they're vanilla android.
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Firmware, recovery, modem, etc etc and mostly reserved for apps, i think. Of course nexuses use less storage since they're vanilla android.
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so the 3-5gb is gobbled up by that? I hope there's a ROM coming up that is as close to vanilla as possible.