P600 charging question - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

I picked up an Anker astro 2nd gen 3 external power pack/charger. It is a 10,000mah power pack. When I plug my note 10.1 to the wall charger it charges at around 1200 mAh. The power pack is capable of delivering 2400 mAh. When I used the power pack it never delivered more than 970 mAh. Is this some restriction on the tablet side or is this an issue I should be addressing to Anker?
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What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Faster charge times?
Stock charger is a 2 Amp, and I've seen no difference in charging times with other 2A chargers I own either.
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It should be putting out more than that. I bought one myself last week and when you first plug it in the app I use shows approx 700-800mA but if you leave it screen off for a couple of minutes then check again you will see currents of approx 1300 -1600mA being drawn. I did a test from full battery and empty note 10.1 P605 it took 4hrs 50mins to fully charge the tablet which is a good indication of everything being as it should.

I will try it on my phone. If the output is low on that also then I will believe there is something wrong with the power pack. Not trying to get faster charge times. Trying to get normal charge times.

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This chager charges my phone from 4% to %100 in exactly 3 hours.

So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
Android Amateur said:
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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sfhub said:
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
awesomeindeed said:
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
SpaceMonky said:
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...

Galaxy Nexus 3G charging time (with graph)

Hello *@*,
I intentionally discharged my GN to a battery level of 1% today to record the charging time just for myself. Then I thought: why not make a graph out of it and share it with XDA?
Total charging time (1% to 100%): 142 minutes
Level checked at 0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140 and 142 minutes
WiFi On, 3G On, Sync On, Screen Off, no calls/msgs/notifications received, phone not used except for % check
1750 mAh Samsung stock battery & charger
Stock or extended battery? I've noticed my charge time varies wildly. Most of the time it's on par with what you've listed here, but every once in a while it goes up 30% in like 20 mins.
Drewmungus said:
Stock or extended battery? I've noticed my charge time varies wildly. Most of the time it's on par with what you've listed here, but every once in a while it goes up 30% in like 20 mins.
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3G, 1750 mAh stock battery. Sorry, I forgot about that.
Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start
Rickymax said:
Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start
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Get a more powerful charger.... I'm using my playbook charger, which uses a 2.1 amp... Way faster than 142 mins... Mine takes about 1:30 to charge from 1% to full.
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Rickymax said:
Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start
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All capacitors acts this way (a battery is also a capacitor) the charge/discharge is always fsstest to 63% both ways and after that it slowes down.. this can ofcourse be monitored and controlled with soft or hardware. But this is the reality of capacitors
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big samm said:
Get a more powerful charger.... I'm using my playbook charger, which uses a 2.1 amp... Way faster than 142 mins... Mine takes about 1:30 to charge from 1% to full.
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isnt it bad for the battery when it is not designed to receive charge that quickly?
All about charging LiIon batteries: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
TL;DR:
LiIons are charged in two main stages:
- stage 1 with constant current, that's the fast charging rate for (roughly) the first 2/3 of the batteries capacity
- stage 2 with constant voltage and a tapered charge current for the last 1/3 of the batteries capacity, that's the slow part where the graph flattens
This is necessary because a LiIon battery is full at exactly 4.20 V and can not handle any overcharge. In fact at ~4.55 V (only + 0.35 V!) the battery would "vent with flame" aka explode.
If you wanna do this on purpose, this is what will happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWdnjLqVWw
Using a more powerful charger can work if the electronics inside the GN handle the higher current properly. I wouldn't recommend it, though. It may charge quicker but it will wear down your battery faster as well.
The phone can only draw up to 1A regardless of much higher the charger is.
So if you're buying a charger, don't bother paying extra for a 2A, but there is no harm in using a 2A charger if you already have one.
wonshikee said:
The phone can only draw up to 1A regardless of much higher the charger is.
So if you're buying a charger, don't bother paying extra for a 2A, but there is no harm in using a 2A charger if you already have one.
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But I can assure you that my phone charges faster with my Playbook charger than the regular charger that came with the phone... How many amp the regular charger uses?
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big samm said:
But I can assure you that my phone charges faster with my Playbook charger than the regular charger that came with the phone... How many amp the regular charger uses?
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Stock charger is 5V/1A (=5 watts). There may be some leeway built into the GN's charging electronics so it can utilize more than 5 watts, but you can safely assume that Samsung would have packaged this phone with a 10 watt charger if it was safe (or desirable in terms of charging time vs. battery durability). Charging time is an important aspect after all.
The phone can absolutely handle it. I think Samsung is just too cheap to give us a rapid charger, I mean there was enough space in the box.
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My car charger is a 2amp charger and does approximetly 1 percent a minute. At home I connect it to my HP Touchpad charger and it seems to charge really quick.
But I LOOOOOOVE my car charger as it can charge my Tablets and phones fast. Well worth the 30 bucks I spent at Best Buy for the rapid charger.
surely a 2amp charger is capable of providing 2amps, but if whatever is attached only drawers 1amp then that's what it'll get ? It doesn't force 2 amps down it's throat ? My palm pre 2 charger is 1amp, my touchpad has a 2 amp charger, but my palm pre doesn't charge any quicker using the touchpad charger.
My Gnex does charge really fast using the plug that came with it especially coming from galaxy s2 which takes ages for a full charge.
alphaola said:
My Gnex does charge really fast using the plug that came with it especially coming from galaxy s2 which takes ages for a full charge.
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+1 I found the gnex really fast charging compared to my sgs2. With the sgs2 I always had it plugged in for fear of a flat battery with the gnex the charging is so fast I don't care anymore.
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AcE XBOX said:
My car charger is a 2amp charger and does approximetly 1 percent a minute. At home I connect it to my HP Touchpad charger and it seems to charge really quick.
But I LOOOOOOVE my car charger as it can charge my Tablets and phones fast. Well worth the 30 bucks I spent at Best Buy for the rapid charger.
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FYI, 1% a min is roughly 1A.
In 1 hour, it would restore 60%, 60% of 1.750A = 1.050A.
Nexus battery is the perfect size to eyeball the inflow rate.
30%/hr = .5A
60%/hr = 1A
60%/30min = 2A
If you think you're charging at 2A, simply time it. Also these are rough numbers and will only be accurate when the battery is low.

10 hours to recharge phone ??????????

Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to recharge my phone ?
I use a charger cable from my computer (usb) to phone while at work --- then I also use it at home too.
Is it only the wall charger that does it fast ? not USB/laptop/computer ?
Last night it took me 10 hours (phone was on but I didn't touch it for 10 hours - internet/wifi/3g was OFF)
why does it take 10 hours ?
Is something wrong with the phone? battery? or is it the charger ?
USB only has a small amount of current that goes through it. Enough to power small USB devices and no more. I believe it's around 500mAH. But your phone is always drawing power, so the excess is what actually charges your battery. Your wall charger is 1000mAH which means there is plenty of current to charge your battery even with heavy usage.
Tl;dr: USB is weak and 10hrs is normal. Wall charger is much more powerful and faster.
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damn thanks for the great reply.
Further more, I was at my friends house once, and he has a black berry (same charger as my SGS3) and he passed me this cord to charge and it honestly charged the entire phone from 5% to 90% in like less than an hour...
not sure wtf this was but is it possible ? is it bad for the phone ? for the battery ?
10 hours is not normal. And the average wall charger that comes with your phone is 750mAH, not 1000. The 1000mAH chargers are quick charge ones.
The fact that the blackberry charger worked well on your S3 tells me that you should get a new charger.
where does one find one of the quick chargers to buy ? (1000mAH)
you can find all sorts of chargers on amazon. you can find inexpensive ones at walmart too. i would recommend buying a samsung charger for your samsung phone. hold onto the one that came with your S3, even if it takes forever to charge. just use it to connect to your pc for file transferring, odin, etc.
Even though charging quickly seems good but if you can afford the time then use the one you already have z charging too quickly affects your battery health negatively , a slow charger will make sure your battery stays healthy for a long time , mind it by slow I mean a 750 mAH one not a faulty one in case yours is faulty .
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10 hours is not normal. And the average wall charger that comes with your phone is 750mAH, not 1000. The 1000mAH chargers are quick charge ones.
The fact that the blackberry charger worked well on your S3 tells me that you should get a new charger.
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The S3 charger is 1000mAH. I have two of them that came with my phones. And anytime I connect my phone to my computer I can leave it connected for hours and only charge a few percent. This phone just draws a lot of power.
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The S3 charger is 1000mAH. I have two of them that came with my phones. And anytime I connect my phone to my computer I can leave it connected for hours and only charge a few percent. This phone just draws a lot of power.
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thats interesting because i have 4 samsung chargers. 2 came with my old S2's and 2 came with my 2 S3's. the output on all 4 is 700mAH. i got robbed. of course, connected to a PC the output is max 500. even at that, i still get a better charge than a few percent when connected to a PC for hours.

Charge Zerolemon in under 9 hrs.

I searched for a solution and bought these two items..
Anker® 40W 5V / 8A 5-Port
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mediabridge USB 2.0 - Micro-USB to USB Coiled Charging Cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W34X5O/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Now here's the kicker... It's currently unavailable...but two days ago when I wanted to make this thread is was not even listed on Amazon, so possible restocking ? I don't know.
I killed my battery to the point of total shut down by about midnight Saturday night. When I got up about 930 am I was fully charged. Now I know we've seen longer run times leaving the charger on after 100% pops up, so to speak to that I am on 94hrs run time and have forgotten how to check Screen On Time...
I am now at that dreadfully annoying -10% level. So I can use the phone all day on 100% brightness but it will chime in all day to warn me of the coming Powerpocalypse to come :laugh:
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I am now at that dreadfully annoying -10% level. So I can use the phone all day on 100% brightness but it will chime in all day to warn me of the coming Powerpocalypse to come :laugh:
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If you rooted your device you can put an xposed module on that will eliminate all low battery warnings.
On your setup, I don't really see the difference between it and using the OGP's standard high-power charger. The cable isn't going to do anything, as far as I can see. And the charging port is 8A/5 ports — from what I've read it adapts to the device to allow it to pull what it needs within that allotment, thus I don't see the OGP pulling more than 1.8A. So, my question to you is, you've tested the standard 1.8A charger against your setup and you get X hours reduction on charge time?
FYI, I don't have the ZeroLemon pack. Thinking about it but might upgrade my device to the GP2.
I have, it took a day and a half.
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I have, it took a day and a half.
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36 hours to charge?
Most using this pack state around 12 hours. Seems something is wrong if it's taking 36 hours to charge with the standard charger that comes with the OGP — normal battery charges in less than 3 hours. I've seen where some zerolemon packs hit 100% but are actually only half charged, thus causing increased charge times. . . . strange stuff.
Using Yoobao 2 Amps wall charger
My zerolemon (9000 mAh) only took 10 hrs to charge. And standard battery (3140 mAh) took 2 hrs using Yoobao 2 Amps wall charger.
I was hoping someone could tell me where to find 4A or 5A wall charger near Jakarta.
My zrrolemon zero lemon takes about 12 hours to charge AMD my standard battery takes about 2-3 hours using the stock charger
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I have 2 zerolemons, so I just keep swapping them.. one in one out lol
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Time to charge battery - SM-T805M

I'd like to know how long does your tablet take to charge fully.
I've noticed something interesting on mine through very unscientific observation. If I use the provided cable and charger, it charges normally. If I use my Nexus 10 charger, which is IDENTICAL (Samsung 5V, 2000 mAh), it takes forever to top off the battery. Then again, my Nexus 10 also took forever to charge. Maybe those batteries are just too big to charge through microUSB? It charges my Nexus 5 just fine.
Takes mine about hour or so atleast on stock charger. When I use my dads charger it takes forever to charge. I think different chargers have different amounts of power to charge a device correctly and safely.
Mine normally takes 2-4 hours to charge depending on what's running and I leave it on usually with wifi. But you should stick to only Samsung manufactured charges cause it still may be different.
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rodrigorajao said:
I'd like to know how long does your tablet take to charge fully.
I've noticed something interesting on mine through very unscientific observation. If I use the provided cable and charger, it charges normally. If I use my Nexus 10 charger, which is IDENTICAL (Samsung 5V, 2000 mAh), it takes forever to top off the battery. Then again, my Nexus 10 also took forever to charge. Maybe those batteries are just too big to charge through microUSB? It charges my Nexus 5 just fine.
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Yep there are many different factors with chargers. I know the samsung cable is also shield so when used charges at a faster rate. There are apps you can get that tell you what amps you are charging at. The best combo has always been an official Samsung 2amp charger with official cable. Using a 1amp unofficial one charged 1/4 of the rate.

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