Anyone coming from Nexus 5 to Z1c? - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I currently have a Nexus 5 and dropped it and now have a broken screen. Was thinking about getting a new Nexus 5, but the wait time is too long for me. I like the Nexus 5 screen size, but my fingers can't reach the screen from diagonal to diagonal with one hand. Saw the Z1 compact and am really considering it.
A couple questions for those that switched from the N5 to Z1c
1) Is the 4.3 inch feel crammed? I know I will easily be able to use it one handed, but how is it with playing games? Never had a screen smaller than 4.7 inches.
2) I am in the US AT&T and I know it does not support one band on AT&T, how is the HSPA+ speed? Such as web browsing, viewing vines, and you tubing?
3) Do you miss the N5 or really happy with the switch?
This phone looks awesome ad I am really close to pulling the trigger. Just had a few concerns on minor things since I have watched all the videos out there on the Z1c .
Thanks in advance and hopefully this will help me make my decision!

I come from Nexus4 (which, as the case dimensions is almost identical with N5).
1. yes .. but only for a day or 2 .. after that you no longer notice the difference.
2. HSPA+ is excellent for watching Netflix movies (I'm doing this every day using the phone as a hotspot for my tablet)
3. I'm not missing my old phone at all .. I simply love the size and the "snapiness".
As a background, my last 2 phones were HTC ONE and then Nexus4 ...

choboii said:
I currently have a Nexus 5 and dropped it and now have a broken screen. Was thinking about getting a new Nexus 5, but the wait time is too long for me. I like the Nexus 5 screen size, but my fingers can't reach the screen from diagonal to diagonal with one hand. Saw the Z1 compact and am really considering it.
A couple questions for those that switched from the N5 to Z1c
1) Is the 4.3 inch feel crammed? I know I will easily be able to use it one handed, but how is it with playing games? Never had a screen smaller than 4.7 inches.
2) I am in the US AT&T and I know it does not support one band on AT&T, how is the HSPA+ speed? Such as web browsing, viewing vines, and you tubing?
3) Do you miss the N5 or really happy with the switch?
This phone looks awesome ad I am really close to pulling the trigger. Just had a few concerns on minor things since I have watched all the videos out there on the Z1c .
Thanks in advance and hopefully this will help me make my decision!
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I do miss the larger screen somewhat, but after two days now I can say I am getting over it. Well worth the change for me for what I am getting in return. FM radio, better battery, waterproof, and yes the ability to use one-handed.
Actually what I miss more than the screen size is the "full screen" use of KitKat. Once this update is pushed to the Z1C, and I get the see thru menu I will never look back.
I am also on AT&T, but am currently in Germany so I can't test the speeds yet.
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I came from a Nexus 5 on AT&T, HSPA+ speeds are fine for me I didn't use lte on my N5 either to save battery so not an issue for me. I also don't miss the large screen though I don't play games on it I use my nexus 7 for that
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rly good feeback i really want to know how different is the nexus 5 in terms of snappiness and smoothness in the android os compared to z1c? do animations/scrolling work better on n5?

adey64 said:
rly good feeback i really want to know how different is the nexus 5 in terms of snappiness and smoothness in the android os compared to z1c? do animations/scrolling work better on n5?
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I can't notice any difference between the two. Neither phone has any lag from my use. I do have animations turned off through developer options though...just my preference as it makes the device a bit "snappier".

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Would you recommend me upgrading?

Hello everyone! I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on AT&T and I recently played with a Galaxy Nexus at Verizon after watching a lot of videos on it (I just had to play with one). I must say, I loved the screen from the short amount of time I used the phone and loved the interface of Android 4.0. I've been using iOS for awhile now and its not because I'm a 'lemming' or some other ridiculous term (please lets keep the fanboyism out of this) and have always jailbroken my phones. The Galaxy Nexus just seemed very nice (although I dislike the backing of the device) and I'm not sure if it's just the allure of something different since I'm so used to iOS (which I'm finding to be stagnant) or if its because its that much better.
I guess I would like to hear anyone's experience with the device, especially if they upgraded from an iPhone 4 as well. The biggest complaints I've heard about the phone are the sub par camera, the build quality, wifi issues, multitouch problems, and battery issues (this one worries me). Upgrading to the SGN would cost me quite a bit, probably around $650 dollars. I'm thinking I could sell my phone off for about $250-$300 making the price slightly more bearable.
Few of the things I liked while playing with it:
* Increased screen size with high pixel density
* Ice Cream Sandwich has a very futuristic feeling to it and I absolutely love the look of it
* Seemed very fast
* Camera took very fast photos
* Full screen browser was amazing (so much more content)
* Face unlock
* Live wallpapers (is this a big battery drain?)
So from a purely objective opinion (not a biased one, although I suppose that is impossible to avoid) do you think its worth the price for me to upgrade to a Galaxy Nexus from the iPhone 4?
Thank for you for time in answering my question(s), I really appreciate it!
I also had an iPhone 4 and chose to upgrade to this phone. Best choice I ever made when it comes to phones! The killer for me was the screen, I absolutely could not go back to a 3.5" screen now. And ICS is just fab! Go for it.
What you're experiencing right now is Night. If you were to upgrade the the Nexus then you would see Day. The only disadvantage the Nexus has over the iPhone is battery life. If you can deal with that then do it.
Had a Fascinate > Charge > iPhone4 > Nexus. I just can't stand that damn 3.5" screen.
Honestly, when i had an iPhone 4, the battery life was horrid. 8 hours at most.
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You pretty much nailed why this phone is better, but I think it comes down to apps. You'll miss some apps on Android at the beginning but you'll also find out that most of those apps you'll miss are irrelevant in an Android environment. You'll miss the battery life on your iPhone that's for sure unless you get a GSM version which I have, I have 10hrs on it and still 84% left of battery, didn't even try to conserve power.
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Honestly, when i had an iPhone 4, the battery life was horrid. 8 hours at most.
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Yea I don't understand the myth of iPhone 4 having great battery life.
The nexus will last 8-10 hours on 3G just like the iPhone 4/4s and it has more power hungry specs.
Although face unlock works well, I can't help but tell you it is a gimmick. Once you press the power button, it takes a while for the camera to initialize so there is some delay when unlocking (as opposed to the quick slide to unlock) but on the other hand is amazing to show-off to friends
Also, many users have reported that live wallpapers cause lag although I cannot confirm that myself. (But, when I did turn live wallpapers on, I did notice some slugishness/lag but it might be because I was running a lot of processes in the background)
The battery drain is also noticeable, for me on Android Revolution HD with Francisco Franco's kernel (dec 13 test non overclock) I get about 10 hours of usage but I still am yet to confirm the battery of the device. You should check out the galaxy nexus LTE review at www.theverge.com for more info. But I'm fairly certain that it does state the battery drain is heavily noticeable on the LTE variant.
Finally, I absolutely love the screen on the Galaxy Nexus as well. I would never go back to a ~4.5 inch screen ever again
I personally get tired of mobile OSes every couple years. I started with the original iPhone, upgraded to 3G, then jumped ship after 3GS release. Not only did I want to dump AT&T, but I also wanted to try out Android.
I was getting sick of Gingerbread so I upgraded early from my Droid Charge. I love the change so far, and I think I'll be sticking with Android for a bit longer. But coming from an Apple product you have to realize that Android will never be as polished or smooth. Google just doesn't have the closed ecosystem like Apple.
The gaming department is really disappointing for me over the iPhone, and is one of the primary reasons I want an Apple device again. But that 3.5" screen makes it hard to enjoy too lol. I think I'll just settle for an iPad 3. If you really like customizing and personalizing your devices, Android is perfect for you.
4G LTE is simply awesome. If you are around a lot of power sockets during your normal daytime gig, battery life is no big deal. Screen size is awesome. No dropped calls is awesome. And I know with Verizon, iPhone 4's fetch like $350-400 still, even after the release of the 4S.
Either way, I hope some of this info helped you lol.
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Upgrade!
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As long as you can deal with the reinvestment into a new ecosystem and possibly buying the Android version of any paid apps you want to continue to use I'd say go for it.
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My first android phone was a HTC Desire, then I sold it for iPhone 4S, which I was using whilst waiting for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I've used an iPhone 2G before and to be honest 2G -> 4S has basically no difference. Using the dialer is poor, no smart dial, small screen which is pretty poor if you want to read web journals on your phone.
So many other basic features are missing from the iPhone such as you have to enter facebook to upload a picture. On Android you just take the photo, and share VIA Whatsapp/Facebook whatever. As easy as that.
Get the Nexus, you definitely won't regret it. Also if you get like a Note or SG2, it'll have the problem of when it gets ICS 4.0 it will still use the Touch Wiz which is frankly crap. So unless you're good at setting up Alternative Launchers or using Custom ROMS your best bet is just using the Nexus. Good luck.
Don't know much about the networks over there in America, but it seems that verizon is very much like Telstra here in Aus. Best coverage but biggest dicks.
That aside, I can say that the Galaxy nexus is awesome. While iOS has always been smooth, ICS has a nicer look about it. The GNEX screen is just amazing - similar to retina but more real estate, which is a winner in my books!
PS. Getting 11 mbps speeds here in aus with HSPA+ too
ive never owned an iphone 4 but i have worked with them a lot.
would i upgrade to a GN? without question.
if you want 'safe' phone then stick to the iphone
if you want a phone you can actually enjoy and play with then go android and the GN is one of the best options out there.
I havent had much trouble with the battery to be honest yes under heavy use it can go down quite quickly (although not as quickly as some devices)...for example i used about 45% when streaming a Newcastle game for 2 hours on full brightness which isnt to bad in my experience.
In 'normal' daily use the battery performs as well as most phones so far.
A lot of iphone users throw the battery issues with android phones out there, but believe me we have had plenty of situations when iphones have drained just as quick.
Just remember that heavy data usage, poor coverage and heavy screen use are the usual culprits for batteries dying.
The GN hasnt got a problem with the battery - at least not for me
Thank you for your replies! I'm still debating about it. One part of me says that a better phone will be coming out soon, while another part of me says that there will always be a better phone coming. Regardless, I do have one question for those of you with a Galaxy Nexus:
If I were to download an app from the Android Market will it scale to the Galaxy Nexus's screen properly? I imagine the graphics would have to be updated in the app to support the higher resolution, but I was curious if Google had worked anything out for generic images to scale correctly. Also do things like buttons (generic images used throughout the UI basically) change to their Android 4.0 counterparts?
Thanks again
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Thank you for your replies! I'm still debating about it. One part of me says that a better phone will be coming out soon, while another part of me says that there will always be a better phone coming. Regardless, I do have one question for those of you with a Galaxy Nexus:
If I were to download an app from the Android Market will it scale to the Galaxy Nexus's screen properly? I imagine the graphics would have to be updated in the app to support the higher resolution, but I was curious if Google had worked anything out for generic images to scale correctly. Also do things like buttons (generic images used throughout the UI basically) change to their Android 4.0 counterparts?
Thanks again
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Some apps scale, some don't, some will say not compatible. A lot of games don't work
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Some apps scale, some don't, some will say not compatible. A lot of games don't work
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That is disappointing. From your experience would you say enough work? Also, do you (or anyone else in this thread) think developers will update their graphics for the SGN's resolution (is it a standard resolution for ICS)?
Nah its just a few lines of code. Most everything will scale properly. ICS is still new and we only just recently got the Nexus. Its not even really updating graphics. Its not like Apple where things get stretched and look hideous. Completely different methods. I hated Apples method to make iPhone apps work on iPads. Most Android apps look 100% normal when scaled. Google doesn't want Tablet and Phone apps... they want 1 app that conforms to all... and most do. A few don't.
I typically take my phone off the charge at 8am. Its 8pm now with 30% left after going all day with corporate email, Gmail, Facebook, xda a few hours, and scrabble a few times. Pretty normal usage but its new so I keep tinkering with it.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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Nah its just a few lines of code. Most everything will scale properly. ICS is still new and we only just recently got the Nexus. Its not even really updating graphics. Its not like Apple where things get stretched and look hideous. Completely different methods. I hated Apples method to make iPhone apps work on iPads. Most Android apps look 100% normal when scaled. Google doesn't want Tablet and Phone apps... they want 1 app that conforms to all... and most do. A few don't.
I typically take my phone off the charge at 8am. Its 8pm now with 30% left after going all day with corporate email, Gmail, Facebook, xda a few hours, and scrabble a few times. Pretty normal usage but its new so I keep tinkering with it.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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Why is it that the graphics don't need to be changed? I'm sure games would need different sized graphics to take advantage of the higher resolution screen. As for the whole iPhone app iPad app thing. I would rather developers create a dedicated tablet app versus's a scaled up phone app any day, so either way isn't that great in my opinion. Great news on the battery! I'm assuming your using the GSM version of the Nexus since your on T-Mobile?
Sorry I couldn't help it
I'm in a weird mood today...
Gsm sexier ....thinner and more pronounce curve lte version battery drains fast. Hate it .. I returning the lte and staying with gsm version
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Anyone go from Galaxy Nexus to Note II ?

Would like opinions, on anyone here that went from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, to the Note II ? I am looking to switch soon, maybe the Nexus 4, or try something fresh like the Note II.
How was adjusting to the larger size of the Note II, over the Nexus ? Screen technology noticeably better, or just slightly ? Battery life, I assume is better on the Note II vs Nexus ?
Are you overall happy with the Note II, or want a Nexus phone again instead ?
I went from Gnex to Note 2. Because i sold Gnex for Nexus 4 and then i got irritated because i couldn't buy Nexus 4 because of stupid google, and then i went for note2...
I am amazed... Bit irritated by TW (i have it for 6 hours only) but i dont want to flash custom rom and loose s pen
Moved from Gnex to Note 2 last week.
Biggest issue for me has been getting used to the changed position of menu and back buttons... Plus I miss being able to add a screen off button but that's now solved with an app.
Haven't played around so much with the S pen but the little bits I have are promising.
The larger screen is what made me change and I do not regret it at all. Battery life is way better which is a real bonus. Easily getting two days with pretty heavy usage (you know how it is with a new bit of tech).
Rooted the Note today so can finally begin getting back to my rom flashing addiction
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Steelyglint said:
begin getting back to my rom flashing addiction
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Then you wont get much use of spen
Laynee1 said:
Then you wont get much use of spen
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Still handy for cleaning my ears
I'll have to live with limited spen use... Getting severe withdrawals from my flashing addiction!
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I'll hopefully be getting my Note tonight. I am currently using a stock Galaxy Nexus, the first Android I've never felt the need to tamper with, highly ironic as its also the best device for flashing ROMs onto!
switched from gnex to note2 a week ago, it was a painless move for me, as the Note2 is doing what I was missing in the gnex. However I feel the camera and especially usage of the camera is far better and smoother than on the Note2. If you don't need a pen and you like to snap away with you phone, then i would stay with the gnex. Overall am a very happy camper with the Note2.
WTF? The camera on the Note is WORSE than the GNex?! I bloody hope not as thats one of the reasons I'm upgrading. All of the reviews say its a pretty good camera, so I'm a bit puzzled by that as the GNex camera is dire.
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switched from gnex to note2 a week ago, it was a painless move for me, as the Note2 is doing what I was missing in the gnex. However I feel the camera and especially usage of the camera is far better and smoother than on the Note2. If you don't need a pen and you like to snap away with you phone, then i would stay with the gnex. Overall am a very happy camper with the Note2.
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Im sorry but... Camera is far better on NOte 2 than on Gnex.. Hdr... Smart Face capture... Burst shots.. Better video recording...
Laynee1 said:
Im sorry but... Camera is far better on NOte 2 than on Gnex.. Hdr... Smart Face capture... Burst shots.. Better video recording...
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Hi, I think I need to put something in the right light here. The pictures on the N2 are definitely better, no contest. I was more referring to the feel and ease of operation. Burst mode is fine, but it still is unmatched how fast the gnex is ready for a shot and how fast it responds. My point is that the gnex is better for the instnataneous snapper. No quality reference to be made here.
Instantaneous Snapper is Ok on Note 2 too... It's not likeI'm defending Note 2,I'm just saying things from my experience with both phones
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I have found the camera on the Note to be way better quality than the Gnex and starts up as quickly if not quicker.
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I went from a Gnex to a Gnote2.
Great upgrade. Here are the upsides:
Way better battery life.
Way nicer screen.
Gorilla glass (tougher).
FM radio function.
SPen and all associated functions are useful for me. YMMV.
Noticeably faster.
Louder ringer and a vibrate function I actually feel.
Here are some downsides.
Menu has changed. Takes some getting used to the new back button location.
The keyboard portion is a step down. I'm not sure what it is, but I seem to make more mistakes and the note is slower to correct them.
Bigger and heavier (obviously).
For me, it was totally worth the upgrade. Hope this helps.
-PW
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Then you wont get much use of spen
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i dont want to flash custom rom and loose s pen
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Says who?!
I am using custom roms and have spen fully working.
If you go AOSP Roms (Liquidsmooth, etc...) you will loose Spen but not in its entirety, if you stick with samsung base roms (Wanamlite, etc...) Spen fully works.
Laynee1, Perhaps you should get your facts straight before misguiding others.
On the same note, I switched from the Gnex and I have been very happy. I have been using it for approximately one month and only recently have I switched to a custom rom . Better battery life, better camera, really snappy and best of all its gorgeous 5.5" display
Switched from a Gnex to a Note 2 a week ago. The Note 2 is a sick device. I love it and the switch was absolutely worth it.
Zorachus said:
Would like opinions, on anyone here that went from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, to the Note II ? I am looking to switch soon, maybe the Nexus 4, or try something fresh like the Note II.
How was adjusting to the larger size of the Note II, over the Nexus ? Screen technology noticeably better, or just slightly ? Battery life, I assume is better on the Note II vs Nexus ?
Are you overall happy with the Note II, or want a Nexus phone again instead ?
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Got mine last night, stupendous device. Here are my impressions thus far (copied and pasted from elsewhere):-
I got mine last night, and think it's a fantastic device.
I have a few more tests to run, but I think this could be the best device I've ever owned by quite a distance. I was going to go for the N4, but glad I didn't.
+ Spectacular screen - many I've shown do believe its too big for a phone, but can't help be impressed anyway. This device has replaced phone and tablet.
+ Battery life - too early to comment, but it seems to last 2 - 3X as long as my old GNex, and even performs at least on par with the Nexus 7 (a full size tablet) if not even better than that!
+ Signal strength - I can actually get a signal, just, at my Jarrow office, which most phones fail miserably to get any. I get a full 3G signal at the front of the building (again my GNex failed to get any here!)
+ S-Pen - A gimmick for some, probably, but I like it, the handwriting function is brilliant.
+ Camera - Excellent for a phone, on par with a Galaxy S3 and only a smidge behind an iPhone 5.
+ DAC - Reported by many reviews to be excellent, and will have Voodoo support from Supercurio @ XDA developers shortly to make it even better. As close as it gets to an Audiophile device in a phone.
+ Speed - 2Gb of RAM and a 1.6 Ghz Exynos Quad Core CPU. More powerful than my PC! Blazingly fast, leaves a SGS3 in the weeds.
+ Expandable storage - A small point maybe, but many phones are turning their backs on this now. I've just ordered a Class 10 64 Gb memory card for £40, giving my device a theoretical 78 Gb storage.
+ Call quality - often overlooked, but I'm hearing unprecedented levels of clarity here.
I'm yet to thoroughly test the Audio quality (with Sennheiser IE6 headphones) and the GPS capabilities, but I'm not worried.
Only downside is TouchWiz is, in parts, still aesthetically challenged, but thats easily sorted with some themes from XDA developers and a new Home screen launcher and icons.
This device is a tech addicts dream TBH.
I also came from a nexus...
The battery is way better
Screen is better
But development has just started
Anyway change to note 2
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I just got mines yesterday, coming from mygnex.. Only downfalls is getting used to Touchwiz, the bloat (not as much as i thought) ,the no on screen home button (i missed that). Other than that..everything is fantastic !
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I just got mines yesterday, coming from mygnex.. Only downfalls is getting used to Touchwiz, the bloat (not as much as i thought) ,the no on screen home button (i missed that). Other than that..everything is fantastic !
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If you touch and hold the little dots it will turn into a slider and screen numbers are then shown.
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If you touch and hold the little dots it will turn into a slider and screen numbers are then shown.
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I do not see the black dots you speak of.. Help? lol

Today is the Day!

I get my shiny new 6502 today and I am sooo excited I am coming from a Note II.
Reasons I switched:
Love the fact that it is a 5" screen but compact, tired of lugging around such a huge phone but love a bigger screen.
Love the clean UI, almost Nexus 4'ish.
Love that it's not all glass like the Z because I use my phones naked so less chance of damage there.
Love the fact that I bought a factory unlocked phone and that I am actually going to finally give T Mobile a try (coming from AT&T), will save $70 a month.
Love the fact that my phone will be different than the other 90% of the population because its not an iPhone or Samsung.
Love the fact that paired up with my shiny new black Pebble watch, this will be a sick combo!
Love 13MP camera so i can zoom into everything. (use phone a lot for engineering work and take pictures of things for notes)
Also love the fact that I bought an HTC One (still waiting for it) and will probably use both as my daily driver (I get bored really quick haha)
Concerns:
I hope that the camera is good and if not that we can either tweak the software for the original camera app, or get a custom camera app that will work better.
I hope the display doesn't wash out as bad as everyone says (or that I don't actually use the screen from a different angle, because I have never thought of it)
Hope the external speaker is at least decent enough that if I watch youtube videos I can hear them ok.
Hope I can tweak the heck out of the phone.
Hope I can get the camera app to launch faster. (might just have to keep it loaded in memory before I know I am going to use it, but what happens when you need it quickly...)
Just some of my thoughts for now as I day dream of my new phone today.
Come on mail lady, please be swift today!
If you have any thoughts on any of these things, or your own reasons you switched or concerns, I would love to hear them.
I will post back on here as soon as I get the phone in my hands (my precious will be with me soon) haha
Guess what I just got in my hands! My little precious!!!
Congratulations! I find that my zl battery got so much better after about 5 days, also I find it gets less warm these days. I have action launcher, lmt launcher and the phone is great. I find the camera launches pretty fast using the shutter key.
Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
10x faster than my Note 2.
Will continue to download all my apps and get it fully customized and write more later on it.
1st impressions; love it!
Hardcore73 said:
Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
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I agree! Every single time I pick up the phone, it just sits so well in the hand. I wanna touch it over and over again. I even run my hands over it gently when its lying in front of me with that gorgeous back
Hardcore73 said:
Absolutely love the screen and the feel of this device! Cannot believe how small this is with a 5" screen, amazing. Excellent build quality, screams elegant.
10x faster than my Note 2.
Will continue to download all my apps and get it fully customized and write more later on it.
1st impressions; love it!
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awesome...seriously that faster over note 2? haha
If you live in a major city. Try T-Mobile, they are upgrading their network at the moment to 4g/LTE. Although LTE is not ready to be turned on. I'm working on the NYC metro market.
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After using this phone for a full day I am so in love with it. I really was unsure and thought it would just get me by until the HTC showed up.
This might actually become my new daily driver.
Been messing with camera app all day. It is hit or miss.
Everything about the phone is great. I can also go a whole day with moderate use.
only downfall of this phone is the camera software. Pictures are hit or miss.
I have to say i'm very disappointed.
Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.
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Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.
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Wtf is we didn't even get flagship? That's a reason the zl can't beat one or s4? Wow the people on this forum does not fail to amaze me with their stupidity every single day.
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This phone is a flag ship. Sony may be behind on processor and screen but the difference against the competition in real world use is not visible. If you read all the blogs and believe everything you read you may believe this phone is inferior. Actually the ZL holds its own. Just sold my htc one for it. Horses for courses.
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GodKingKnight said:
Not comparable to the HTC ONE or the Galaxy S4. Maybe new design but we didn't even get flagship. Sorry Sony.
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I prefer ZL over the two phones u mentioned. Overall ZL seems well rounded device & better suited to my use. Of course, ZL is a flagship (along with Z). I'd have answered objectively if only your post were so!
switching from nexus 4
I just ordered a 6502 today, should be here tuesday or wednesday.
I'm switching from a nexus 4. Yes I know but I have always liked Sony:laugh:
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I just ordered a 6502 today, should be here tuesday or wednesday.
I'm switching from a nexus 4. Yes I know but I have always liked Sony:laugh:
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You will keep picking it up, just feels so good in the hand. Sony has come along way from the days of x10
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Hey, I liked the x10!!!
ronj1986 said:
Hey, I liked the x10!!!
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software was so blotted and the built quality was alright..
Great phone!
I'm also waiting for my HTC One in the mail. My carrier was offering a ridiculous deal for the ZL so I went for it, and will make my decision when it comes. The ZL is awesome for many unique reasons and could very well become my DD
Elegant design - great feel in the hand!
Can use one handed because of compact design and small bezel
Display is gorgeous. Yeah we know about the poor viewing angles...but we mainly look at our phones straight on...right?
Sexy and visible LED notification light (HTC take note)
Power button has perfect placement. It's just accessible no matter how you pick up the phone (again take note HTC)
Expandable storage
Dedicated camera button
Clean and unbloated Android experience. Super fast ui response!
IR blaster works great with other devices
Great sound with headphones
No point in outlining negatives here. Either way you slice it this is a fantastic phone....enjoy it!
got it....love my 6502
It came today, haven't had time to play too much with it so still setting it up.
So far I am loving it.
Don't have to enable data to receive pictures in my texts (that always annoyed me on the Nexus 4). Also I am torn between all the updates vs giving even more info to Google. I picked the Sony route for a bit.
Love the 5 inch size, with the screen taking most of the front it is just right it seems
Went with the unlocked 6502, won't pay $200 extra for LTE (I'm on WIFI all the time anyways)

Would you recommend the Nexus?

I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
It's a decent phone and there is still some Dev support. I bought mine about a year ago and have been satisfied. Battery life sucks compared to newer phones signal isn't to great compared to my RAZR. But all in all it having an unlocked BL on Verizon makes it all worth while. I thoroughly enjoy mine and will only move if nexus 6 is unlocked on Verizon.
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I can join my previous speakers. It has a very bad battery, it's lags often in apps and the screen is very worn because of this early AMOLED technologie, BUT if you have only 100€ its one of the better phones. I'm using it right now because my nexus 5 were broken and I really like it because it just works. However if you have $50 more to spend when you should buy the moto g. It has clearly more power and offical support by motorola.
no. this phone is terrible, and i'm currently looking into buying a replacement battery for my S3 since it's been sitting in my drawer and i have no idea where the battery went, plus it's broken
i can probably find some way to fix it on ADB, but if not, i'll just wait until i upgrade then i'll get the oneplus one
seriously this phone sucks, there is nothing to recommend about it
No man dont do it .. phone performance is pretty random, dont know why, sometimes it flies like an S4, sometimes it lagz and freezes like an S1..
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Maximinus I said:
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Well, web browsing has become hard since 4.4.x. To be honest, KitKat is a mess on this phone. I hope new GPU drivers and 3.4 kernel will help.
If I were you I would buy a Moto G.
I'm using Gnex for a half a year. I bought used. So not because of data plan.
For me Gnex can still give what i need for "normal" daily use - sms, browser, messenger, driving assist, news reading, some games ....
So it depends on your need
best regards
It's a beautiful device, but it's definitely not the best. I absolutely love the unobtrusive design of the front -- just plain black. The phone is the exact right size for me, and the volume and power buttons are in exactly the right place; however the bezels are quite large in comparison to newer phones. This makes the structural integrity of the phone better, but it isn't really nice to me. The back of the phone has a comfortable plastic "grippy" feeling that makes it easy to hold, especially with the curved extrusion at the bottom by the speaker grill.
The speaker is awful, as with all Samsung devices. It's a back-facing speaker that's tiny and easy to cover up. Not much of a problem if you use earphones like I do.
It easily lasts me through a school day, though it only lasts about 4 hours streaming video. Its dual core processor is definitely outdated and consumes far more powererformance than any modern phone.
The screen is on-par with the Galaxy S3 screen, which isn't a compliment. It's low-resolution in comparison to new phones (1280x720), it's hot (as in it actually feels hot) and consumes a heck of a lot of battery very quickly. The colour is amazing, vibrant and simply gorgeous... but, within a few months, you get screen burn-in which is especially noticeable in low light -- speaking of which, the screen in low light is far worse than any IPS with a slightly grainy image, though it does retain a good contrast. Its slightly curved display prevents it from scratching anything facing down and, in my opinion, makes it easier to touch things at the top of the screen.
The phone's radio is only GSM (unless you're going for Sprint or Verizon), so if you're wanting LTE, tough luck. It also doesn't have FM or AM radio if you're into that.
The camera's not the best, but it does the job. The flash is often over-bright, and lacks HDR, motion stabilisation and is only 5 Megapixels. Front camera is 720p.
So why buy this phone? If you can get it really cheap, go for it. If not, go for something newer like the Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5 or the upcoming Nexus 6 for a similar, updated experience.
Just remember, it's truly an Android modder's dream. It's extremely mod-able with a decent sized community. In my opinion, it is still the best phone I have ever used. I find that just the pure feeling and look of the phone is enough to keep me with it. Also, with recent additions to the phone like F2FS, graphics drivers, new kernels, new ROMs etc., the phone is still very usable for just about everything -- even most gaming.
For $100 i would buy it. The moto g is comparable and faster but almost $100 more. But I think your question is already answered
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bought mine for 70 dollars one month ago, definetily worth it.
I would much rather use an s4 with touchwiz than use a galaxy nexus. The gnex is the second worst android phone that I've ever owned.
You really can't compare a three year old phone to a phone that is just over a year old. Of course the s4 will be better but touchwizz yuck it would probably be just as slow as a galaxy nexus.
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Appreciate everyone's response, thanks
It's a good phone when it was released but the battery life is quite short even though I don't have a lot of apps on it. When the battery life is in the red, it usually last around 5 minutes then it shuts down. I think it was better than than iPhone 4 at its time since it was one of the first phone with a larger screen.
I agree with the other posts.
Honestly, I think CM10 runs amazing on the phone and the signal is actually quite good with that version. 4.4.4 doesn't do well on it for the signal...at least for me. I have been trying many ROMs / Kernels and I have the same luck with them all. I only have mine because I bought it for like $80 on ebay and still have the unlimited plan with Verizon so I don't want to upgrade to a new phone unless I pay the big dollars.
Battery life...is crap like everyone else states. I bought three batteries for this phone for that reason and always have it plugged in, which is why I actually have burn in from my apps.
I own GNex for almost 3 years now and here are few things coming into my mind right now:
Terrible camera
Terrible speaker (Very low volume)
Slow as hell
Worn screen
Incredibly short battery life
Also, with such limited memory multitasking is pretty much not existent if you like installing many apps
Honestly, there is not a single day that I don't want to throw my unit against the wall.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from this peace of junk.
N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
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Dan
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I'm keeping it because I don't have much money on a new phone and there isn't much on the market that really makes me want to spend anything.
The Galaxy Nexus is a really ****ty phone. If it wasn't a Nexus it would get zero respect from me.
I mean for an old and cheap phone, it's probably the best you can buy at this moment but I'd suggest saving a few more dollars and getting something better.
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N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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Thanks but on verizon, looks like that gsm only.

[Q] can't decided to get g4 or nexus 6 (verizon). help me decide :)

Hey all. I'm on verizon. currently own a iphone 6 plus. the phone is ok but i HATE HATE HATE how it only has 1 gb of ram and that when i multitask, it has to reopen and or refresh apps all the time. i cant have more than 2 tabs in safari without one of them having to refresh. same with apps that i just opened. i hate it.
late last year, i did own a nexus 5 before the iphone 6 plus. i was on straight talk with but ATT where i live is HORRIBLE so just went back on my families family plan. being that the nexus 5 does not work on verizon i sold it and got the iphone 6 plus. i would have went with the nexus 6 but was not out until a month after the 6.
anyway, i can't decided if i should go nexus 6 or LG G4. my bud has a nexus 6 and he let me mess without for a while yesterday and i really like it. just like the nexus 5. love stock android. love having bootloader unlocked and root and having system images to the latest version of android. he was running liquid smooth rom (5.1.1) and it was really fast and nice. the only thing i dont really like about it is that the phone is a little wider than my iphone 6 plus and that phone is already wide to begin with. i know these phones are not really meant for one hand use but i want to at least be able to reply to a text message with one hand. so not sure about that part. also worried about the battery life with it. dont like that i can't get 64 gig version on verizon. also no micro sd slot and being that im a tech nerd. i HATE buying older tech products. nexus has been out for about 6 months or more know, it does have a 805 chip while the G4 has the 6 core 808 chip and much better camera. but going with the G4, i get a plastic phone, probably wont see its bootloader ever unlocked. and i hate skinned android. How long did it take for the verizon LG G3 to get root? as long as i have root so i can uninstall bloat apps ill be fine. plus i like how the G4 is closer to the same size as the 6 plus i have rather than the huge 6" size the nexus 6 is.
TLR
have a 6 plus. hate that it has 1gb ram and has to reload every app when multitasking. cant decided if i should go with the 6 month old nexus 6, or get the LG G4. i want root, good battery life, fast performance, good camera,
Valkyrie743 said:
Hey all. I'm on verizon. currently own a iphone 6 plus. the phone is ok but i HATE HATE HATE how it only has 1 gb of ram and that when i multitask, it has to reopen and or refresh apps all the time. i cant have more than 2 tabs in safari without one of them having to refresh. same with apps that i just opened. i hate it.
late last year, i did own a nexus 5 before the iphone 6 plus. i was on straight talk with but ATT where i live is HORRIBLE so just went back on my families family plan. being that the nexus 5 does not work on verizon i sold it and got the iphone 6 plus. i would have went with the nexus 6 but was not out until a month after the 6.
anyway, i can't decided if i should go nexus 6 or LG G4. my bud has a nexus 6 and he let me mess without for a while yesterday and i really like it. just like the nexus 5. love stock android. love having bootloader unlocked and root and having system images to the latest version of android. he was running liquid smooth rom (5.1.1) and it was really fast and nice. the only thing i dont really like about it is that the phone is a little wider than my iphone 6 plus and that phone is already wide to begin with. i know these phones are not really meant for one hand use but i want to at least be able to reply to a text message with one hand. so not sure about that part. also worried about the battery life with it. dont like that i can't get 64 gig version on verizon. also no micro sd slot and being that im a tech nerd. i HATE buying older tech products. nexus has been out for about 6 months or more know, it does have a 805 chip while the G4 has the 6 core 808 chip and much better camera. but going with the G4, i get a plastic phone, probably wont see its bootloader ever unlocked. and i hate skinned android. How long did it take for the verizon LG G3 to get root? as long as i have root so i can uninstall bloat apps ill be fine. plus i like how the G4 is closer to the same size as the 6 plus i have rather than the huge 6" size the nexus 6 is.
TLR
have a 6 plus. hate that it has 1gb ram and has to reload every app when multitasking. cant decided if i should go with the 6 month old nexus 6, or get the LG G4. i want root, good battery life, fast performance, good camera,
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I was in the same boat, I got the G4
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I was in the same boat, I got the G4
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how do you like it? hows the battery life? the feel of the phone? is it old samsung plastic feel or is it a decent thick plastic feel? (know that sounds weird but some plastic phones feel like cheap while others feel fine) how is the multitasking? does it have the memory leak issue like the S6 has? example in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0&feature=youtu.be
i wish it had 5.1.1, which fixed all the memory leaks
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how do you like it? hows the battery life? the feel of the phone? is it old samsung plastic feel or is it a decent thick plastic feel? (know that sounds weird but some plastic phones feel like cheap while others feel fine) how is the multitasking? does it have the memory leak issue like the S6 has? example in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0&feature=youtu.be
i wish it had 5.1.1, which fixed all the memory leaks
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I can let ya know tomorrow! That's when it comes in
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I got my G4 last Thursday, and I love it. I like the same things most people are liking...but if youre trying to decide Ill tell you this: once you experience knock-on/knock-off you wont want another phone without it Mine is leather backed, and its comfortable.
The leather version G4 is going to be one of the nicest looking phone you ever had. (ironically the plastic version looks the poorest/most normal among all the flagship smartphones out there imo)
But not too sure about the durability of the leather though.
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The leather version G4 is going to be one of the nicest looking phone you ever had. (ironically the plastic version looks the poorest/most normal among all the flagship smartphones out there imo)
But not too sure about the durability of the leather though.
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the black leather version looks nice but im not really a fan of the itching down the middle tomorrow im going to call my local verizon store and see if they have any working display units before the street date so i can play with it and see how it is. hopefully they have one on display before this Thursdays release. i have tomorrow.
I get mine Tuesday, I loved my g3 then switched to the nexus 6 when I got my upgrade, wasn't a fan of the s6 edge. The nexus 6 is a very solid phone, I have mine rooted with aosip rom from droyd running zen kernel. Battery has been amazing using this combination, speed is silky smooth, and volume is loud! I love a loud speaker that's why I'm going to try the g4. The g3 with sound hack has been one of the loudest phones I've had. I can speak up on the g4 Tuesday but since there's no root yet I can only give details on the stock experience. You have 14 days to return the phone so I say try both and see what suits you. I was lucky enough to have my wife's upgrade as soon as the g4 was released so I have both. :good:
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I get mine Tuesday, I loved my g3 then switched to the nexus 6 when I got my upgrade, wasn't a fan of the s6 edge. The nexus 6 is a very solid phone, I have mine rooted with aosip rom from droyd running zen kernel. Battery has been amazing using this combination, speed is silky smooth, and volume is loud! I love a loud speaker that's why I'm going to try the g4. The g3 with sound hack has been one of the loudest phones I've had. I can speak up on the g4 Tuesday but since there's no root yet I can only give details on the stock experience. You have 14 days to return the phone so I say try both and see what suits you. I was lucky enough to have my wife's upgrade as soon as the g4 was released so I have both. :good:
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i really like the nexus 6. from the time playing with my buds, im pretty sure ill get that. I just dont like buying tech things (computer parts or phones) that have been on the market to long. i know the next nexus is rumored to not come out till this coming October, but being how the G4 has the 808 chip and a better camera. the thing that's making me indecisive is the G4 having a skin over android as well as the risk of not having root and or custom recoveries.
how long did it take for the G3 to have root?
To also sum this up, it also depends on what your needs are. If you want primarily a gaming and heavy-CPU use phone, as well as lots of development (now) the N6 might be better off. If you like lots of gadgets and a great camera, the G4 is for you.
I had the Nexus 6 abs and I decided to go with the G4 and I'm loving it!
I have had my note 4 since it came out, my G4 is sitting here almost ready to go back, I had the G2 and G3, all notes so far. I really wanted to like the G4 better than the note.
I got the S6 edge, but returned it (not as good as the note 4).
G4 vs Note 4 = note 4 is rooted and I am running Dynamic Pop, or CM12.1 depending.
Performance and benchmarks
The note 4 Antutu is 50,000 to 52,000 the G4 is 48,000 to 50,000, G4 gets hung up easy on some tasks, both are about as fluid on easy stuff.
Screen, the Note 4 is at leaast twice as bright, much easier to read indoor and out doors and have MUCH better viewing angles, like a printed page vs a lcd screen. The G4 just looks dull, and you have to wait for the back light to turn up so you can see anything, not a biggie, but its a flagship phone?
Download speed, again for some reason the note 4 seems to do much better, same area same time seems to be getting in the 30 or 40 Mg down, and the G4 stays around 14 or 20.
Leather, the G4 is way better than the note 4 fake leather.
Size for almost the same size the note 4 has much more usable screen.
Battery, note 4 at least a few more hours...
I guess I have to send it back, why get a newer, slower, dimmer, slower downloading phone?
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I have had my note 4 since it came out, my G4 is sitting here almost ready to go back, I had the G2 and G3, all notes so far. I really wanted to like the G4 better than the note.
I got the S6 edge, but returned it (not as good as the note 4).
G4 vs Note 4 = note 4 is rooted and I am running Dynamic Pop, or CM12.1 depending.
Performance and benchmarks
The note 4 Antutu is 50,000 to 52,000 the G4 is 48,000 to 50,000, G4 gets hung up easy on some tasks, both are about as fluid on easy stuff.
Screen, the Note 4 is at leaast twice as bright, much easier to read indoor and out doors and have MUCH better viewing angles, like a printed page vs a lcd screen. The G4 just looks dull, and you have to wait for the back light to turn up so you can see anything, not a biggie, but its a flagship phone?
Download speed, again for some reason the note 4 seems to do much better, same area same time seems to be getting in the 30 or 40 Mg down, and the G4 stays around 14 or 20.
Leather, the G4 is way better than the note 4 fake leather.
Size for almost the same size the note 4 has much more usable screen.
Battery, note 4 at least a few more hours...
I guess I have to send it back, why get a newer, slower, dimmer, slower downloading phone?
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This is for Verizon. You wouldn't be running a CM ROM on Verizon since the BL is locked.
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I had the ip6 then got the nexus 6 as its a great phone well built also got the the Samsung s6 edge which is great for everyday use but when I'm at home I grab my nexus.
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Way better LG G4
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