Hey guys,
Was curious, if I have current OTA 4.3 non rooted and have not been rooted for a month or so. I currently do have 2 or 3 good backups of carbon rom or whomp etc, but they were 4.1.2 or so. Can I just boot into recovery, and flash the backups from my SD card and be back in business with the prior backups and previous versions of android without any issues. KNOX worries me in general and I would like to go back to what I had before.
I wouldnt...I would delete them and start all over again, but thats me.
Dedline said:
Hey guys,
Was curious, if I have current OTA 4.3 non rooted and have not been rooted for a month or so. I currently do have 2 or 3 good backups of carbon rom or whomp etc, but they were 4.1.2 or so. Can I just boot into recovery, and flash the backups from my SD card and be back in business with the prior backups and previous versions of android without any issues. KNOX worries me in general and I would like to go back to what I had before.
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You can do this but you will still have the Knox bootloader. Only way to downgrade is by flashing billards back to stock mc2. It is in the development thread also make sure you read the op or you will mess up things.
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Since ATT claims that they will be doing an OTA update tomorrow I'm wondering what will happen to my rooted phone. Do I install the update? Will it try and automatically install the update itself? If it does what will happen to my phone. I'm currently on the latest version of Clean ROM. Thanks for all the help in advance!
I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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As long as u dont have custom recovery u will be able to get the update ....u will lose root thought....
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nuclearrage said:
I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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Lol cause there is no update yet
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I am also rooted and using CleanRom 3.5. I am sure the build date for the current CleanRom will be newer than the AT&T build date supposedly coming today. I guess I won't be updating since they are only adding multiview and I already have it via CleanRom. When the day comes that 4.1.2 is pushed out by AT&T and an update is needed, will I need to unroot my phone to get that update or is there another method?
If you have a custom recovery and things frozen or deleted with titanium backup you must undo all of that and get a stock recovery and then use ota root keeper to temporarily hide the root and you should be ok
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Ahhh, Ok. Thanks!
I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
iDrummer3 said:
I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
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Interesting. I am running root stock with twrp. I removed root, but still have custom recovery (twrp). Flashing the update fails due to ro.secure==1 or something.
Did you do anything at all to prep for the update, maybe ta or hide root?
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I recently got note 2 and it came with 4.1.2 which has the SDS patched, I was wondering if I root it and installed a vanilla/tw-based rom the SDS will not happen right?
sinoka56 said:
I recently got note 2 and it came with 4.1.2 which has the SDS patched, I was wondering if I root it and installed a vanilla/tw-based rom the SDS will not happen right?
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If you have n7100 and you want to root and use custom roms my 1 bit of advice would be to just read the guides and tutorials thoroughly before hand. I believe all 4.1.2 roms dont suffer sds. After you root make sure you backup your efs folder and do a full nandroid of your current rom. And copy both to your pc for safe keeping. If its n7105 do the same as a precaution. Alot of people have had problems with n7100 which you can read up on in the forums.
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if I wanted to go back to stock rom, could I just unroot and insert a different stock rom? or it should be the same with what the note 2 came with?
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if I wanted to go back to stock rom, could I just unroot and insert a different stock rom? or it should be the same with what the note 2 came with?
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I personally would not go back to stock rom. Theres only one way and thats forwards. What I will say is you need to read and understand all the guides before you attempt to root and install roms.
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You can always revert back to stock ROM. Read all the guides on here and make nandroid backups as you go.
So I am wondering about the new rons people have posted saying 4.3 I know this might be a noob question but is it possible for me to flash 4.3 roms on 4.1.2. With out having any issues?
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bronxdr said:
So I am wondering about the new rons people have posted saying 4.3 I know this might be a noob question but is it possible for me to flash 4.3 roms on 4.1.2. With out having any issues?
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are you rooted? if yes, then you can flash any of the TW 4.3 roms in development. they are sprint official TW android 4.3, running on the 4.1.2 boot loader (= no KNOX)
make sure you're using the latest CWM, TWRP recoveries or use Philz (which is a CWM based recovery with tons of extras and built on the latest CWM).
you have to do a factory reset, wipe partition cache and dalvik cache and do not restore data (for best results)
of course backup first.
I'm assuming you haven't done the OTA update to 4.3 because you're asking about running on 4.1.2. if you have then that changes things.
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are you rooted? if yes, then you can flash any of the TW 4.3 roms in development. they are sprint official TW android 4.3, running on the 4.1.2 boot loader (= no KNOX)
make sure you're using the latest CWM, TWRP recoveries or use Philz (which is a CWM based recovery with tons of extras and built on the latest CWM).
you have to do a factory reset, wipe partition cache and dalvik cache and do not restore data (for best results)
of course backup first.
I'm assuming you haven't done the OTA update to 4.3 because you're asking about running on 4.1.2. if you have then that changes things.
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That sounds good I was concern because I bricked my other phone and had to get a replacement phone yeah I know noon thing to go but I panicked since I couldn't get my phone to work.
So my replacement phone is running on 4.1.2 I am waiting doing my research asking more questions then before so that the same thing doesn't happen again. It was an expensive mistake to make. I haven't rooted my phone yet so I was thinking of rooting it and using philz since I have heard a lot of good things about it. Just gotta find those threads.
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That sounds good I was concern because I bricked my other phone and had to get a replacement phone yeah I know noon thing to go but I panicked since I couldn't get my phone to work.
So my replacement phone is running on 4.1.2 I am waiting doing my research asking more questions then before so that the same thing doesn't happen again. It was an expensive mistake to make. I haven't rooted my phone yet so I was thinking of rooting it and using philz since I have heard a lot of good things about it. Just gotta find those threads.
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You can follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
I read the last few pages (started @ pg 30) this works with phones on MD4 (4.1.2)
when you're done you can use the link in my signature to get Philz, yes its really awesome.
Don't forget to thank QBKing77 for his video tutorial, CNexus for porting Philz to our phone at first, and Phil3759 the creator.
Good luck!!!
I'm currently on a 4.3 touchwiz rom and I was wondering if it's possible to jump to 4.4.2 and revert back to touchwiz 4.3?
I read about the Knox security thing and I understand I can't go back to 4.1 or any prior touchwiz builds.
I just want to make sure if I go to KitKat and I find it unstable to make it my DD. I atleast have the option to go back to touchwiz.
I normally used Odin to go back to touchwiz(4.1.2) when I used AOSP(4.2.2) does that still work?
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I'm currently on a 4.3 touchwiz rom and I was wondering if it's possible to jump to 4.4.2 and revert back to touchwiz 4.3?
I read about the Knox security thing and I understand I can't go back to 4.1 or any prior touchwiz builds.
I just want to make sure if I go to KitKat and I find it unstable to make it my DD. I atleast have the option to go back to touchwiz.
I normally used Odin to go back to touchwiz(4.1.2) when I used AOSP(4.2.2) does that still work?
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It's possible. I recently had to do a warranty on my phone and the refurb I got had the latest 4.3. I just updated the recovery to CWM and rooted it using Chainfire's method then updated to the latest Superuser; after doing that and reloading SU it asked me if I wanted to disable Samsung Knox. After hitting yes and disabling it, I flashed it to CM 11. I decided I didn't like it and restored an to an earlier backup of the rooted stock 4.1.2 and have had no problems. As long as you make sure to disable Samsung Knox first and make a backup just in case you should be fine.
For starters, I am using an SGH-i747, that shipped with 4.3.
Now, I am not new to rooting/modding my phone. My previous phone, the Samsung Infuse 4G, was very easy to root, install recoveries/ flash ROMs, and unroot. I could go from stock 2.2 to 4.4 in 30 minutes. And I did, a lot. But reading up for the past few days on this phone is making me feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus, there are very mixed results with rooting the GS3 on 4.3 successfully.
''Read the rooting tutorials'', I have, they are from 2012/ early 2013. It is 2014, thing have changed. One, there's apparently this ''KNOX'' thing that triggers when you flash anything that's not from Odin, and there's no back-to-stock 4.3 or any previous Android version because the bootloader has changed. I'm not really worried about Knox ending my warranty forever, I'm worried about the event that I somehow brick my phone, there's no going back to stock.
Looking at the CF-auto root by Chainfire, the amount of bad votes HERE for the SAMSUNG SGH-I747 is disheartening. Also, that the post hasn't been edited since Nov. 2012...
Unless someone has a surefire way to get root (and maybe a custom recovery) I would like advice on if THIS video looks legit.. If it is, then after I gain root, should I be able to download a recovery from ROM Manager or something similar? (I'm asking because that's how easy it was on my Infuse)
I feel very weird posting in the QA section, as I have only done so maybe 4 times...but any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to clear anything up, for some reason, feel free to tell me. I'll probably be hovering over this thread like a vulture.
You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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But the things I want to install from the recovery will require root. Would using the custom recovery to flash a superuser.apk give me root access?
Edit; thought after posting, would flashing a ROM with superuser work with just having a custom recovery?
I prefer installing a custom recovery via Odin rather than ROM manager. Most ROMs are pre-rooted. If it's not, you can download SupeUS or Superuser and flash in recovery.
In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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Oh boy, I hope you're right.
Edit 1; ok, backing up now, this works.
Edit 2; after a successful backup and pressing reboot, TWRP prompted me that I hadn't yet installed SU, which it then allowed me to install. Reboot and open the app drawer, it was there, but had to update from the play store. Voila, rooted with a custom recovery, thank you to both for assistance! It was easier than I thought it was going to be.
No problem.
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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I guess since I already have a thread opened, I'll ask this, too;
What's the difference between the Android Development and the Original android Development? The forum for my previous phone only had 1 development section, so most of the layout of this entire forum is new to me.
theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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How is the MJ2 bootloader going to be used when the phone already came shipped with 4.3? It already has the MJB bootloader.
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MJ2 wont flash very well. But they also have it with the MJB bootloader and stuff so no fear just use the correct stuff and you shall get it aswell .
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