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I am posting this for three reasons:
I want to offer hope to people who may otherwise run out and spend $40 at retail B&M to get a battery.
I want to raise awareness about an issue that likely has some dev contribution to it.
I did a search in all the Evo forums here for posts with "dead" "battery" and "charge" and didn't readily see this information provided.
So here is the "secret" - the charger HTC supplies when you buy your phone provides more amperage than many other chargers. It provides 1A, whereas most others supply 950mA or less, and even non-OEM ones which say 1A do not usually provide it (I know, I have some). I learned this years ago when the HTC Wizards would go completely dead and the only thing that could revive them was the stock charger.
This still applies today, even to the Evo. Night before last I went to bed and my phone was plugged via USB into a plugged in PC as it has been dozens of times before and when I woke up it was dead and would not power on. No other charger, wall or USB would work, and I was traveling so I didn't have mine. A trip to the Sprint store confirmed my phone would power on with another battery. When I got home last night I plugged into my HTC charger and within 10 seconds the light was blinking, and it was solid within 30 seconds. Now it is "fine again", but needless to say I have a backup on the way from Ebay.
Now to why I posted this in Dev, and why I think it should stay here and not in general. Here is what I was running:
MikFroyo 4.4 (upgraded from 4.3, no wipe)
Netarchy 4.2.1 cfs havs more universal (forgot to check whether SBC or not, but I know I have run SBC and MORE kernels before for a couple days at least with no issues)
Launch day Evo, hardware 003
I think if mods move this to General then many fewer devs will see it, and I do think the SBC kernel probably played a role in this thing dying. I am NOT trying to blame the SBC dev for anything - this is all my responsibility, but if others have this problem and report ROM, wipe status, hardware rev, and kernel in this thread, maybe we can isolate what causes the problem. Regardless of what is decided, everyone who flashes should know about the charger issue so I hope this helps some folks.
Mark
I've owned a Diamond, a Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 (x2), and an EVO. They ALL came with the 1A charger. I've NEVER had a battery die.
I've also used SBC, and although it provides substantial battery life, I removed it due to the fact that LI-Ion batteries are not supposed to be HELD at a 4.2V charge. But that's beside the point here...
The point is HTC Chargers have been this way for quite some time and being phone manufacturers for 14 years, I think they have sufficient evidence that their ways work. They wouldn't put out a 1A charger if it was known for killing batteries. After 13 years and collecting feedback about them all, if this was a problem, they would have provided a different charger.
You simply got a bad egg. It happens. Batteries are known for getting bad ones every now and again.
This also does NOT belong in the development forum... because there's nothing developers can do for a defective battery, and even if there was it still wouldn't belong here, because it's a request/question. (Can you do this for me/us?)
This belongs in the Q/A section.
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I've owned a Diamond, a Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 (x2), and an EVO. They ALL came with the 1A charger. I've NEVER had a battery die.
I've also used SBC, and although it provides substantial battery life, I removed it due to the fact that LI-Ion batteries are not supposed to be HELD at a 4.2V charge. But that's beside the point here...
The point is HTC Chargers have been this way for quite some time and being phone manufacturers for 14 years, I think they have sufficient evidence that their ways work. They wouldn't put out a 1A charger if it was known for killing batteries. After 13 years and collecting feedback about them all, if this was a problem, they would have provided a different charger.
You simply got a bad egg. It happens. Batteries are known for getting bad ones every now and again.
This also does NOT belong in the development forum... because there's nothing developers can do for a defective battery, and even if there was it still wouldn't belong here, because it's a request/question. (Can you do this for me/us?)
This belongs in the Q/A section.
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This is all well and good but not useful. My post was not to say my charger (or any charger killed my battery), my post clearly said my software MAY have killed the battery and that only a 1A charger, which is what HTC supplies, revived it. I have had it happen 3 times, over 5 years and thousand of flashes so it doesn't surprise me you haven't seen it as most wouldn't. Clearly some combinations of roms/kernels/hardware (including batteries and their revs here) cause it, but when it happens to you it can be a royal PITA. Anyway, I have a dozen other chargers here from Motorola, Nokia, RIM and non-OEM which prove that your info about other manufacturers supplying 1A chargers to be wrong, so maybe you should read and investigate before you thread crap.
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This is all well and good but not useful. My post was not to say my charger (or any charger killed my battery), my post clearly said my software MAY have killed the battery and that only a 1A charger, which is what HTC supplies, revived it. I have had it happen 3 times, over 5 years and thousand of flashes so it doesn't surprise me you haven't seen it as most wouldn't. Clearly some combinations of roms/kernels/hardware (including batteries and their revs here) cause it, but when it happens to you it can be a royal PITA. Anyway, I have a dozen other chargers here from Motorola, Nokia, RIM and non-OEM which prove that your info about other manufacturers supplying 1A chargers to be wrong, so maybe you should read and investigate before you thread crap.
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Very well, I skimmed over your original post, and it looked like from a glance, that you were saying that the 1A charger caused it, my mistake.
However, I never said that other manufacturers supply 1A chargers, I said that HTC does, so perhaps you should take your own advice and read.
Secondly, You presume to think for some reason that I have not done any REAL flashing/experimenting. You are incorrect. Being the owner of several HTC devices, I too have done thousands of flashes, both experimental and non-experimental. I also built my own roms and kernels for all the devices I specified. And I have NEVER had a problem with a battery failure caused by software issues. I did have ONE issue, but I caused the issue, I charged a battery with NO built in software/hardware protection, and killed it by leaving it on the charger without protection, which was my fault. (hence the second Touch Pro 2)
Thirdly, There have been a total of what... 8 or 9 battery failures reported now? (Granted this does not include those that have NOT reported on the forums that it died...) Now, I'm no expert, but in terms of statistics, in the minds of the manufacturer of products that are designed KNOWING that they are going to fail at some point or another, And dealing with naturally unstable elements inherent to the design aspect of the product, I would think that this is an acceptable number compared to the total number of batteries sold for this specific device.
Nope, presumed nothing. Even with dozens or hundreds of flashes you may not see this, especially with WinMo phones as I noted you listed 3, and so what I said was correct. You did note your phones came with HTC wall chargers, but that was irrelevant. I was talking to the vast majority of chargers of all types, which many of us have and use in addition to our HTC wall chargers (as I was, because I was traveling). And your last point, again, is off the mark. As you note, for every report of an issue there are many times more folks with actual issues who for whatever reason don't note them (in my experience, usually because we're all too busy). But I've taken some of my valuable time to try to help the dozens or hundreds of folks (including non-Evo folks who may search XDA or Google and see this) who actually have this problem. Anyway, I've wasted more than even time on you, so reply all you like, I'm done with this debate.
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I've owned a Diamond, a Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 (x2), and an EVO. They ALL came with the 1A charger. I've NEVER had a battery die.
I've also used SBC, and although it provides substantial battery life, I removed it due to the fact that LI-Ion batteries are not supposed to be HELD at a 4.2V charge. But that's beside the point here...
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Holding the charge at 4.2 V is not an issue, and most kemels will do this. The "issue" is with the continuous movement of Li ions towards the anode even in low amperes. However, thus far the evidence and data presented behind the catastrophic failure caused by Li plating - is somewhat lacking.
Furthermore, I think its BS when someone with little knowledge on the subject reaches to blame SBC as soon as something goes wrong with their battery. I suppose its nice to have a scapegoat ...
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It's funny you should post this because this just happened to me....like it happened yesterday. I rooted my roommate's phone and the next morning his phone wouldn't turn on or charge with any charger, etc. I knew it had to have been a problem with the battery because I'm sure it wasn't something I had done like bricking the phone, so I switched his battery with mine and...his phone worked. Maybe it was a faulty battery or maybe I DID do something wrong but it was weird because all I did was flash CM and I didn't use any SBC/HAVS kernels. Either way seeing this post and what happened to my friend's phone has me a bit wary of the EVO's battery...but hey we all know the risks here so the lesson learned is...research before anything lol.
This is no secret, really.
It's just a common misconception that all USB chargers work the same.
USB 2.0 standard is 500mA+, and specifications allow USB 2.0 chargers to go up to 1.8A (1800mA).
USB 3.0 specifies a primary port to have 900mA, so charging your phone on a USB 3.0 port (laptop/computer) is recommended over USB 2.0.
Many smartphone chargers (stock) provide 1A, while many 3rd party chargers still use the typical 500mA.
ALSO, it should be noted that when a devices battery (if it is lithium-based) falls below a certain voltage, the device typically will not attempt to charge it for safety reasons (it causes oxidation which can cause physical damage and in worst scenarios the battery will explode).
Also, don't blame SBC...while I'm not a fan and it's arguable it can cause battery damage, this is solely a USER-ERROR (that means you made the mistake, not your phone, not your phone's software)!
Still think this should be in the general forum. Although I did "develop" a headache from reading all the big words, so maybe it can stay.
1 month after getting my Evo(2days after the Evo was released is my start date) ,my battery took a crap. I was unrooted. I rooted in July , I've run many roms and kernels since. I have been running SBC with not one problem unless you consider fantastic battery life an issue . I've been runening SBC since it came out and I'm an extremely heavy user.
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This is no secret, really.
It's just a common misconception that all USB chargers work the same.
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Many smartphone chargers (stock) provide 1A, while many 3rd party chargers still use the typical 500mA.
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The reason I called it a "secret" (not the quotes) is that many non-OEM chargers listed as 1A - aren't. I have 3 others here that show 1A that don't work (haven't plugged into a multimeter to see what they are actually putting out.
Also, to the poster who said this is the user's fault and not SBC's let me be clear (again, as I was in the first post) - I take absolute responsibility for whatever happens when I flash my phone with non stock software. Further, I am not blaming SBC, just mentioned I MAY have been running it at the time. That said, the phone had a charge and was plugged in to the same chargers it has operated on dozens of times before and again is operating on now that it has been revived, so there is SOME software or hardware issue here. Saying it is my fault, beyond the fact that I flashed something unauthorized, is patently ridiculous. Just want to be clear that taking responsibility for risk and understanding the related consequences is one thing, but being blamed in totality for all consequences is something else altogether.
So, to prevent this from turning into a blame SBC thread, I'd ask that anyone who isn't experiencing problems, or is, but hasn't had a completely dead battery, post in the SBC kernel thread, because they are doing great work over there.
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vettejock99 said:
I am posting this for three reasons:
I want to offer hope to people who may otherwise run out and spend $40 at retail B&M to get a battery.
I want to raise awareness about an issue that likely has some dev contribution to it.
I did a search in all the Evo forums here for posts with "dead" "battery" and "charge" and didn't readily see this information provided.
So here is the "secret" - the charger HTC supplies when you buy your phone provides more amperage than virtually all other chargers. It provides 1A, whereas most others supply 950mA or less, and even non-OEM ones which say 1A do not usually provide it (I know, I have some). I learned this years ago when the HTC Wizards would go completely dead and the only thing that could revive them was the stock charger.
This still applies today, even to the Evo. Night before last I went to bed and my phone was plugged via USB into a plugged in PC as it has been dozens of times before and when I woke up it was dead and would not power on. No other charger, wall or USB would work, and I was traveling so I didn't have mine. A trip to the Sprint store confirmed my phone would power on with another battery. When I got home last night I plugged into my HTC charger and within 10 seconds the light was blinking, and it was solid within 30 seconds. Now it is "fine again", but needless to say I have a backup on the way from Ebay.
Now to why I posted this in Dev, and why I think it should stay here and not in general. Here is what I was running:
MikFroyo 4.4 (upgraded from 4.3, no wipe)
Netarchy 4.2.1 cfs havs more universal (forgot to check whether SBC or not, but I know I have run SBC and MORE kernels before for a couple days at least with no issues)
Launch day Evo, hardware 003
I think if mods move this to General then many fewer devs will see it, and I do think the SBC kernel probably played a role in this thing dying. I am NOT trying to blame the SBC dev for anything - this is all my responsibility, but if others have this problem and report ROM, wipe status, hardware rev, and kernel in this thread, maybe we can isolate what causes the problem. Regardless of what is decided, everyone who flashes should know about the charger issue so I hope this helps some folks.
Mark
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happens all the time while trying to stream the internet to PC. I just hook up my battery to an external charger that plugs into the wall, then use my spare battery till thats done charging.
See ya
vettejock99 said:
The reason I called it a "secret" (not the quotes) is that many non-OEM chargers listed as 1A - aren't. I have 3 others here that show 1A that don't work (haven't plugged into a multimeter to see what they are actually putting out.
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You may not have tested, but you also aren't listing the stated voltages.
Input voltage can sometimes be used for reference, which can also explain some issues you are having.
This has turned into some big "secret" when all it really is happens to be you finding the fact that non-OEM products often have more quality issues and also higher margins of error.
Many people may not know this, but the way you have gone about this thread is what me and others are objecting. Why you even mentioned SBC as if it had something to do with this is also a big issues, considering there is much controversy over SBC kernels.
You have to understand there are proper ways of presenting information and findings, and this is not one of them...you came here presenting the presumption that this is a dev issue (in some aspects pointing fingers) when this is far from that.
I mean, I hope you understand the way you mentioned SBC insinuates SBC has something to do with this...
Your charging port might be going bad.
Um, no, and it's not. Read into it all you like, there are EE's who will argue on both sides of the SBC discussion and frankly I don't care - I an running another SBC kernel right now. I do know it is happening to people and just because I knew the HTC charger would fix it and you may have known it doesn't mean the majority of others do.
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One thing I learned with the 25+ android phones I have had and the many years already using android is phones die according to the user wether battery,bricks or just the phone not performing like it should. I use and mod my phone the proper way and have never had issues unless I F-ed it up my self and a few factory issues I noticed a hour or so after opening the phone. I also have used a bunch of kernals and have been using SBC kernals since they started appearing on the seen and have yet to see one issue but then again from the years of my modding experience on phones in general I never buy extended batterys because they have always caused issues also I never use 10 dollar batterys or any charger that did not come with the phone.
So I think this thread is give or take based on the user and what they are doing with there phone, but not saying its not a issue.
I am a Sprint service tech. This type of "failure" is common and is not exclusive to the Evo. An undercharged battery will often refuse to respond. Generally leaving the device plugged into the wall with your OEM charger will eventually trigger a charge. Your local Sprint ASC or Retail service center can jump start a "dead" battery with there Cadex.
Newer cell batteries very rarely die or fail.
Exactly what I was trying to say.
My last few comments on this:
I came here to help some folks. I knew the resolution to my issue, but we shouldn't assume everyone does. In fact anecdotally I would say MOST people who come here want to know just enough to flash ROMs or tweak their phone to address some major irritation or reap some benefit their provider doesn't give them, but they don't care about these "corner cases". And although some will disagree with me, I don't believe that this limit to their desire for knowledge means they don't have a right to be here and shouldn't be flashing.
In the end I came here to offer up help for a real problem. I disagree with anyone who says there is no software involvement here and with the statement that this is somehow user error (unless one believes letting your battery get below 20% or plugging into a non-OEM charger is user error). Clearly it happens, there are theories as to why it is happening and no one should squelch those. I've seen a lot of people leave this board for others recently for exactly that reason - people here are too quick to weigh in with their opinion or thread crap and this is one of the reasons this board has become progressively less helpful as of late. I think this sucks, but I am not starving for approval, so move this thread, lock it, let it fall into page 10 obscurity or whatever, I don't care.
This is still a debate. I had my moments with SBC kernels and I associated it to those SBC related kernels. I did my test twice and both times the SBC kernels with USB - PC charge would cause my battery to die. Also without the HTC OEM Wall Charger it would not work. I kick started it with the HTC OEM Wall Charger and cable. Even a non-oem cable that I have used for everything doesn't work to kick start it.
My experience for my phone is to stay away from the SBC Kernels. This is regarding dead battery/non-responsive phone.
I have had some of the older non-SBC kernels not charge my phone with a Wall Charger (HTC) to past 65%.
So who knows it sometimes is a crap shoot.
Before you all jump down my throat for not searching the forum, I did, and did not find anyone with a similar enough problem to warrant not posting.
I have a HTC incredible 2, I've had it for around a year, and it currently has the Aeroevan CM9 with his custom kernel installed. I pulled it apart and cleaned out the usb-micro port, and reflowed the solder on all connections. All of the pins in the micro-usb port have continuity to the flex cable pads as well, so it does not appear to be a hardware problem with the charging port assembly. It still refuses to charge right now. Sometimes it will charge for 10 or so minutes, but the percentage will not really go anywhere, and it will drain it back to zero and shut itself off. edit: I've tried 4 different usb-micro cables, and none work.
This seems to be somewhat of a common problem for this device, and I'm wondering if any of you have had the same problem, and if you fixed if, how. Most of the posts I've seen on the verizon question board were with people who still had phones under warranty, so they were just given replacements. My warranty expired around a week or two ago. I might pick up a new battery to see if that works. Otherwise, the upgrade (which is only available because one of the other people on my plan has one available) costs $130. I'm in college, and can only afford that if it is an absolute necessity i.e. there is no easy or feasible solution.
Thanks guys.
Dude its a known issue with the phone. You will need to replace the micro-usb port. Sorry to be blunt, but its happened to quite a few. It happened to my nephew and he needed to get a new phone.
here you go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Power-C...onnector-HTC-Incredible-2-S710e-/170734676910
I guess what I don't understand is that, electronically, the assembly is fine. Oh well, I was going to do that anyway.
I bought a couple of cheap Chinese replacement batteries for my Xperia Play just to see if they were any good. So far, they seem to be lasting a lot longer than the original battery, but I've noticed I cannot charge them using the phone (it seems I have to use the standalone charger that came with the batteries). Is there any way I can convince the phone to charge these batteries, or is there some kind of hardware lockout for third party batteries that I won't be able to get around?
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I bought a couple of cheap Chinese replacement batteries for my Xperia Play just to see if they were any good. So far, they seem to be lasting a lot longer than the original battery, but I've noticed I cannot charge them using the phone (it seems I have to use the standalone charger that came with the batteries). Is there any way I can convince the phone to charge these batteries, or is there some kind of hardware lockout for third party batteries that I won't be able to get around?
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It's probably not a hardware lockout, just that the batteries are cheap. It comes with it's limitations, I presume.
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It's probably not a hardware lockout, just that the batteries are cheap. It comes with it's limitations, I presume.
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The thing is, if there wasn't a lockout, I would assume the phone would at least be trying to charge them. It doesn't even show the charging icon when I plug it in. It just sits there running off USB power without providing any charging voltage to the battery. It may very well be that since the batteries are cheap, the manufacturer didn't bother to put a correct ID chip in or something, though. I'm just wondering if there's something I can change in the phone's settings or in some configuration file, or if it's something I can't do anything about at all. I did change the capacity in build.prop to match what's on the label for the batteries, if that might have affected the charging capabilities in some way.
Okay, the second battery of the two did show the charging icon when I plugged the USB cable into the phone. Interesting. Of course, it was already fully charged when I booted the phone with the USB cable attached, so maybe that had something to do with it. I'll have to see if the behavior is the same once it's been run down a little.
You get what you paid for. Sounds more truerer than ever. No pun intended.
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You get what you paid for. Sounds more truerer than ever. No pun intended.
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No need to lecture me, I knew I was probably headed for some issues. Just feeling optimistic, haha.
What's awesome is that they really do last a lot longer than the stock battery. Phone's been on for almost 5 hours now, I've been tethering over WiFi for at least two hours, and the battery is just over half depleted. My stock battery would be blinking the 10% warning after this amount of tethering.
Okay, weirdness. The second battery charges in the phone without any problem (I let it run all the way down this time, then plugged in the USB connection). I wonder if it has anything to do with the way the label on the first battery bunched up when I inserted it? Maybe that was causing one of the contacts to not make a solid connection or something. I'll have to try it out again later.
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You get what you paid for. Sounds more truerer than ever. No pun intended.
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I'm sorry, I just re-read this, and I'm genuinely confused by your statement regarding puns. I'll accept it as true, but I'm not sure which part of the preceding statement could be taken for a pun. I mean there's 'more truerer', which is kind of a funny way to word things, but it doesn't call the word 'pun' to my mind, haha.
Alright, well, I tried it again with the label un-bunched, and I guess battery #1 is just defective. Battery #2 still charges happily. I'll e-mail the seller and ask if they're willing to send me another battery or give me a partial refund (although a partial refund out of $22 wouldn't be that much, haha).
EDIT: Alright, I sent the seller a message, and they're just going to send me a replacement battery. I don't even have to send back the defective one! I just hope the new battery works like the 'good' one of the two I got in this set, and not like the 'bad' one. If anyone's curious, these are the MPJ brand batteries available on eBay. At the price they sell for, and with the willingness of the seller to correct a situation like the one I got into, they're probably worth the risk.
I only wish I could say whether the batteries are better than a brand new stock battery. The battery I got with my phone was sealed and unused, but for some reason it was a year older than the phone itself, so it might have already been suffering from diminished capacity due to age. The MPJ batteries definitely last a lot longer than my phone's battery when I first got the phone back in January, though.
ive been having a problem with this phone for a while. it has a problem with turning on and statying on. i will set it on charge while its powered off for atleast two hours, but as soon as i turn it on it will last for about 5 mins and turn off.
i first replaced the battery and it has the same problem. so i replaced the charging port and it was working fine for a few weeks and now its back to the same issue. i cant even get it to charge now
so just trying to figure out what kind of other components it could be
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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well i greatly appreciate your lengthly response. to be honest, it is my mothers phone, which is why i want to try and fix it. i gave her an iphone so she really doesnt need this phone but i would like to figure out what is wrong because i do like to tinker with things. i have tried different chords, wall outlets, usb ports on the pc etc. i will reopen the phone to see if everything is back together, because thats the only thing i can think of from what you mentioned.
thanks again. if anyone has had a similar problem, let me know
sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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The OP already tried both of those things.
Oh ok yeah i just noticed where he put that. Hardware problem maybe. Im more into software myself than i am hardware.
MINE TOO! Omg
This... it's too much. Okay, a month ago the damned power button got too hard to press in, which should have been a warning that the hardware was getting faulty I suppose. But I downloaded an app that let me use the volume button to turn screen on/off. (I won't say which because I half-blame it, unfairly, for killing my phone
(Sorry, I'm still —mourning! the death of my phone I guess.)
The app was an ugly solution, I guess, but it worked. (I couldn't turn the screen off easily, so I set the screen-off to 10 seconds.) And I hadn't used screenshots in a while so that was no big deal; and my ROM could get me to Recovery easily enough, so screw the power button, right?
But then last night, my phone STOPPED CHARGING! I did a batt pull, tried new cords; turned off every useful app. I even went back to stock ROM, which (even though plugged in) left me with 20% batt. Might as well have bricked it, I guess.
Nothing worked. I was able to turn bluetooth back on so I could use my Air Droid acct to get my on-phone pictures, at least (everything else is safe on the SD), and then I charged it overnight in the wall and hoped for the best.
I was pretty thrilled to wake up to 100% charged! —For a few minutes. As soon as I unplugged it, it started discharging fast, and then not even the wall charger stopped it from discharging.
After brooding, for a few hours, I called Verizon tech. The tech (VERY nice, admittedly) said my Dinc2 was just dead. (Damn they're good: he was more sympathetic than a doctor delivering bad news!!) —But I feel so lost. He offered me a DNA or a Dinc 4G (and some motos and crap), but said my Dinc2 wouldn't be worth fixing. He said the power button alone was a PITA, but the dongle thing you plug the charger into was likely the problem, AND it might be the battery. Maybe he said other problems, but ultimately he suggested some pre-owneds he had for sale (I'm trying to keep my unlimited data plan), or try PhoneKarma.com. (He said he didn't recommend eBay, where they have Dinc 2s, but I'm not sure why.)
So ...do Dinc2s just have power issues after (?) 3 years? I guess that's a pretty good lifetime, but boy is it depressing. (I know — hooked on a damned phone. #Sucks.) I mean, it would be stupid to fix this one, or buy another one, right?
@Trebuchette, no matter what machine you use, rechargeable batteries do not last forever. Order a new battery from Amazon or eBay and you should be fine. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Incredible-6350-BTR6350B-Packaging/dp/B0064SI3QA
A case might make your power button easier to press. The OtterBox Defender is an excellent case that you can get for $15 used (very good condition), if a new battery successfully fixes your problem.
Hey: might be worth a shot! I did try another batt, but it was older too. And I didn't think of an otterbox at all, tbh. Thanks! Might be worth a try!
Hey: does it matter much if my USB cable is LG or whatever? I tried several different USBs too, but I'd been using this LG one (no idea how!) for probably about a year.
No, the brand of micro USB cable should not matter. It's a technical standard.
Don't buy a case until you've verified that a new battery actually fixes your problem. If a battery doesn't fix it, it's only a few bucks lost. In that case, I would then get a new phone.
i just came back to this thread after i basically put the project on hold for a while and wanted to see any new suggestions. so after leaving the phone alone for two months, i pluuged the phone in and i saw that orange ligh indicating it was charging. so far so good, im not using it as a primary phone which is good, but that would be my suggestion is to give the phone a rest for a while
EDIT: yeah scratch that, its doing the same **** now
Now, I know...the M9 has ALWAYS had a reputation for being bad on batteries.
I also know, that Facebook and Messenger are two nasty apps that eat batteries alive.
Saying all of that up front, the battery life on my M9 has very suddenly become VERY bad (even with Facebook and Messenger not installed). I thought it might have been a battery calibration issue, but trying a calibration program out seems to yield no improvement (even in the accuracy of the battery indicator).
So, now, if I'm lucky, I'll get about 2.5hrs of battery life even if the phone is in airplane mode indoors. My battery will get to about 65% and then the phone will shut off. When I try to start the phone, I'll get a 0% indicator sometimes, but after plugging it into the charger, I'll then see about 65% battery instantly.
Is there anything I can do or should I throw in the towel and upgrade to an HTC 10? Things are to the point I can't use the thing when its plugged into the charger!
I was using the last nightly build of CM on the thing for months before it got THIS bad. I thought maybe keeping it plugged into the charger too much was the problem, but wiping the dalvik cache after fully charging might help too... no change. I tired flashing Lineage and the battery life is the roughly the same.
Should I try flashing back to stock or try a firmware upgrade or somekind? I honestly have no clue what to do with this thing.
I honestly believe it's a hardware issue. I've tried most anything and I'm there too! I was just going to buy a lightly used m9, flash my current ROM onto it, and wait for the Pixel 2 (the HTC is looking like a disappointment).
My brother had a similar issue with his M8. Sprint refused to acknowledge any kind of hardware issue and insisted that he must have too many apps running, even after a factory reset. He eventually switched to an HTC 10.
I currently have my HTC 10 in for warranty so I have to us my M9 in the meantime. I tried upgrading to a nougat rom only to get terrible battery life. I switched to the santod stock debloated marshmallow and it lasts the day and a couple of hours. I read on the thread that there are no nougat radios for the M9 which causes the battery drain.
I figured it out. It was the battery all along. Replaced the battery, and the phone is getting the best battery life it has ever gotten.
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I figured it out. It was the battery all along. Replaced the battery, and the phone is getting the best battery life it has ever gotten.
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Did you replace it yourself? Was it that hard? My battery will randomly die at 23% sometimes. Debating on replacing it. Can't afford a pixel at the moment.
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Did you replace it yourself? Was it that hard? My battery will randomly die at 23% sometimes. Debating on replacing it. Can't afford a pixel at the moment.
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Yes, I replaced it myself, and your situation sounds VERY similar to mine. It was one of the trickiest operations I have ever done on a phone by far, but the M9 has a few things that make it much easier to do then the M8 for sure (I was dreading having to replace a USB port on my old M8). I replaced the USB port for my M9 while I was in there and also did the thermal mod to help cool the CPU down. I have a very steady hand and some experience doing these types of things, but am by no means a professional.
I talk about my experiences doing all three of these operations here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72235621&postcount=49
Only additional note I have is, that the Amazon seller I bought my battery from is now out of stock. A friend of mine who just bought a M9 is ordering a new battery for his, so I can update you with that experience soon. As some people seem to be getting old batteries or batteries that aren't holding a charge even from the vendor I bought mine from. I almost wonder if some scumbags are returning batteries to Amazon saying they didn't use them, but are actually sending back their old batteries!
I did notice while looking for new battery replacements on Amazon the other night, that there does appear to be generic non-OEM replacement options on the market now, where I did not find those at the time I did my replacement. My friend is getting his battery off ebay from a Hong Kong seller, so it will likely be a few weeks before we have it in hand.
I also used this video on youtube as reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYm-2dUW03M I stopped and did the USB board replacement before most of the steps (that is actually quite easy to do by itself). You can watch it to get a REALLY good idea of what you'll have to deal with. I had the Verizon version of the M9 to deal with, so I only had one antenna wire instead of two (most be a different antenna in the VZW version of the phone), and getting the CNC connections back together was harder then ANY of the ribbon cables shown. I had to remove my contact lenses and look at the motherboard really close to see it clearly.
@TheXev Thanks for all of the info. I heard that conducting the battery swap was notoriously tricky. I ended up just buying a m9 for cheap and porting everything over to it... when this battery inevitable dies in 6 months I may give the self-replacement a go (or move on to a Pixel or something).
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@TheXev Thanks for all of the info. I heard that conducting the battery swap was notoriously tricky. I ended up just buying a m9 for cheap and porting everything over to it... when this battery inevitable dies in 6 months I may give the self-replacement a go (or move on to a Pixel or something).
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Just finished replacing my battery this morning. Took me about 45 minutes. I followed this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvBvrWN73s&t=180s .... I just hope this will delay me buying a pixel. Expensive!
Bought this one here. I doubt it is OEM but we will see how battery life last on this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Thanks @TheXev
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My brother had a similar issue with his M8. Sprint refused to acknowledge any kind of hardware issue and insisted that he must have too many apps running, even after a factory reset. He eventually switched to an HTC 10.
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Flyhalf205 said:
Just finished replacing my battery this morning. Took me about 45 minutes. I followed this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvBvrWN73s&t=180s .... I just hope this will delay me buying a pixel. Expensive!
Bought this one here. I doubt it is OEM but we will see how battery life last on this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Thanks @TheXev
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Glad it worked out for ya.. but on a stranger note... WTF IS UP WITH THAT VIDEO!? lol its EXACTLY the same as mine, only with a different logo, the font was changed from blue to red.... and the music is different but it is otherwise EXACTLY THE SAME. lol
I'm switching tabs between these videos at different parts, and its just changing colors... I think your video is from the original author, I'm going to let him know about this other channel ripping off their work.
My phone has same battery behavior.
Anyone in Los Angeles area want to swap out my battery for me???
Any reputable phone service places anyone can recommend?
I really don't think I should try to do this myself.