I rooted my note 3 using Kingo and it worked fine and did not trip Knox. I do want to flash a 4.4 ROM(I know Knox will trip). , most likely CM11 and I want to make sure I'm doing this right. After I I install CWM I make a Nandroid backup then I can flash CM 11. I just want to make sure if I ever want to go back to stock and unroot it is possible. I know Kingo can unroot and before that I would flash my Nandroid backup.
Just wanted to double check before proceeding.
Yes but going back to stock unrooted will not reset knox. You probably knew that but making sure.
Yes I did but thank you. I was thinking of doing cm 11 and installing Google dialer, the one in the nexus 5
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Hello, I have rooted my stock Galaxy Note 3 T-Mobile 4.3 and now I heard that Samsung is rolling out soon KitKat update for the Note 3.
My questions is, do I have to unroot and return to stock then update then root the exact same way I did before ?
Does updating to KitKat require a different root method ?
Can I restore my apps and how ? I dont seem to know how to use Titanium backup and I even purchased it!
Please help me and thanks
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Hello, I have rooted my stock Galaxy Note 3 T-Mobile 4.3 and now I heard that Samsung is rolling out soon KitKat update for the Note 3.
My questions is, do I have to unroot and return to stock then update then root the exact same way I did before ?
Does updating to KitKat require a different root method ?
Can I restore my apps and how ? I dont seem to know how to use Titanium backup and I even purchased it!
Please help me and thanks
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I believe that you can update to Kitkat via Odin when the official update comes to T-mobile while rooted but you will lose root in the process. As far as rerooting, I believe you can flash recovery with Odin and then flash SuperSu in recovery to get rooted again, although, I think I read somewhere that it wasn't recommended anymore?. Not sure though. I used auto root method which I'm sure would still work just fine with kitkat. For restoring apps I would recommend the App backup and restore from the play store. Very easy to use.
Why dont you flash a 4.4 rom that's out there
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Iorveth said:
Hello, I have rooted my stock Galaxy Note 3 T-Mobile 4.3 and now I heard that Samsung is rolling out soon KitKat update for the Note 3.
My questions is, do I have to unroot and return to stock then update then root the exact same way I did before ?
Does updating to KitKat require a different root method ?
Can I restore my apps and how ? I dont seem to know how to use Titanium backup and I even purchased it!
Please help me and thanks
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I generally NEVER accept OTA updates until Devs have a chance to look at it and okay it, or see what others feedback is after accepting. Don't take for granted that you are rooted and have unlocked boot loader access. And until official KitKat is released its all hearsay as to when it'll come out.
I have been away from Android and recently made the switch back (Smart Move!). I bought a Galaxy Note 2 and rooted it and tried some custom ROMs. In the process I tripped Knox and then I went back and read up on it and understand how it happened. I sold that phone and got a S4 with 4.2.2 stock on it. I want to root and move up to a 4.3 custom ROM but I want to make sure I have the steps down as far was not dealing with knox again.
1. Root the phone (I used Chainfire Auto Root previously on the Note 2)
2. To move up to 4.3, I need to find a custom rom without knox and flash.
3. If I ever want to go back to stock 4.2.2, I should be able to if I never install knox (this is the piece that I really want to verify).
Tripping knox isn't a showstopper by any means but I would like to get back to the original stock firmware if I wanted to so I asking if the steps above are accurate. From what I have read, I think if I stay away from custom roms with knox, I should be okay.
Thanks for you help!
You're steps are accurate. Just don't flash the 4.3 bootloader.
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1. Root the phone
2. Install TWRP recovery (my preferred recovery, but you need a custom one)
3. To move up to 4.3, I need to find a custom rom without knox and flash. I highly suggest the wicked rom. It's a modified stock 4.3 rom
4. If I ever want to go back to stock 4.2, never upgrade the bobootloader
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I added bother step but yes you're on the right track
Thanks for the info. Phone has been rooted and custom recovery installed. I am going to try out Wicked too.
I flashed an AOSP 4.4.2 ROM a few weeks back, and I'm having a lot of issues with it. I would like to go back down to 4.3, but the backup I made doesn't work anymore. Would it be safe to ODIN flash a 4.3 image onto this device? If it is ,I should be able to use that to restore my backup afterwards, correct?
Just flash the 4.3 stock rooted image from ZenArcade...
It's bone stock except for root...and it does not contain the knox bootloader...
Wipe device and flash in recovery....done....g
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BJSerpas said:
I flashed an AOSP 4.4.2 ROM a few weeks back, and I'm having a lot of issues with it. I would like to go back down to 4.3, but the backup I made doesn't work anymore. Would it be safe to ODIN flash a 4.3 image onto this device? If it is ,I should be able to use that to restore my backup afterwards, correct?
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If you flash back to stock 4.3 doesn't mean it's going to fix your back-up you perilously made. If the back up is failing then it's probably corrupted somehow...
Backups (nandroid) are usually done thru TWRP or CWM recovery if that's what your referring too...
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Guys...Im not a total newbie but I have a couple of question. I have my SM-N900T rooted with N900TTMBBMI7..used odin, CF-Root etc etc and its working great...so I have dabbled enough in this so I am a bit dangerous. I have CWM recovery and Titanium backup and can/do make backups before I add any apps, etc.
I would like to upgrade to N900TUVUDNF1 and I have seen that in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761451 there is a deodexed, rooted version by Jovy23 so that is great...I do have a couple of questions I want to be clear on before I start this process :
1) I see that people talk about needing a specific bootloader...do I? Can anyone clarify that for me?
2) I have lots of apps installed on my N900TTMBBMI7 now as you can imagine. Would the process be to install N900TUVUDNF1 with odin as per the instructions and THEN, install Titanium backup and restore my apps? I dont want to spend a lot of time getting the phone back to what I have now if I can avoid it.
3) Will the N900TUVUDNF1 install wipe out my CWM recovery ? Do I need to re-install it after flashing N900TUVUDNF1 ?
4) If something goes really wrong, the process to revert would be to install CWM recovery and restore my N900TTMBBMI7 backup?
Anything else you guys would like to advise me of will be greatly appreciated...
thanks!!
re: NF1 firmware
calderonr said:
Guys...Im not a total newbie but I have a couple of question. I have my SM-N900T rooted with N900TTMBBMI7..used odin, CF-Root etc etc and its working great...so I have dabbled enough in this so I am a bit dangerous. I have CWM recovery and Titanium backup and can/do make backups before I add any apps, etc.
I would like to upgrade to N900TUVUDNF1 and I have seen that in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761451 there is a deodexed, rooted version by Jovy23 so that is great...I do have a couple of questions I want to be clear on before I start this process :
1) I see that people talk about needing a specific bootloader...do I? Can anyone clarify that for me?
2) I have lots of apps installed on my N900TTMBBMI7 now as you can imagine. Would the process be to install N900TUVUDNF1 with odin as per the instructions and THEN, install Titanium backup and restore my apps? I dont want to spend a lot of time getting the phone back to what I have now if I can avoid it.
3) Will the N900TUVUDNF1 install wipe out my CWM recovery ? Do I need to re-install it after flashing N900TUVUDNF1 ?
4) If something goes really wrong, the process to revert would be to install CWM recovery and restore my N900TTMBBMI7 backup?
Anything else you guys would like to advise me of will be greatly appreciated...
thanks!!
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#1: The NF1 bootloader is part of the official Samsung N900T NF1 Kitkat firmware.
Here is the direct download link for the firmware:
chrome://mega/contenthttp:
https://mega.co.nz/#!ioglFaQD!IzrjOKfoQXnfzTVjItUnjVvqzVSoG4s0wkKLTvit9BY
#2: You will need to restore your apps with titanium backup after odin
flashing the official stock NF1 firmware.
#3: Odin flashing the NF1 firmware will wipe cwm recovery so you will need
to odin flash TWRP recovery which can be found here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45687485/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.2.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
#4: Before flashing TWRP you will need to odin flash cf-autoroot which
can be found here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45687485/CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.tar.md5
#5: Once you flash NF1 firmware you cannot revert back to MI7 firmware
it will either bootloop or get stuck on boot screen if you try doing it.
In other words you cannot downgrade the firmware once it's updated to NF1.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
#1: The NF1 bootloader is part of the official Samsung N900T NF1 Kitkat firmware.
Here is the direct download link for the firmware:
chrome://mega/contenthttp:
https://mega.co.nz/#!ioglFaQD!IzrjOKfoQXnfzTVjItUnjVvqzVSoG4s0wkKLTvit9BY
#2: You will need to restore your apps with titanium backup after odin
flashing the official stock NF1 firmware.
#3: Odin flashing the NF1 firmware will wipe cwm recovery so you will need
to odin flash TWRP recovery which can be found here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45687485/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.2.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
#4: Before flashing TWRP you will need to odin flash cf-autoroot which
can be found here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45687485/CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.tar.md5
#5: Once you flash NF1 firmware you cannot revert back to MI7 firmware
it will either bootloop or get stuck on boot screen if you try doing it.
In other words you cannot downgrade the firmware once it's updated to NF1.
Good luck!
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply..I am glad you answered because I was totally under the impression that reverting back was indeed possible..I would have been in a wold of hurt if something went wrong and I could not revert since I use this device for work as well. So this of course begs a few more followup questions
1) The firmware at https://mega.co.nz/#!ioglFaQD!IzrjOK...4s0wkKLTvit9BY I assume is NOT rooted and therefore I would have to root with CF-Root etc...correct?
2) What is exactly the bootloader in this context? You are not refering to TWRP/CWM I assume? Is it the built in code to get the startup going? I am familiar with Linux bootloader like LILO and GRUB...is it the same concept?
3) Understood on restoring apps with Titanium backup...you refer only to the official firmware. Are you suggesting that I should not use the stock rooted NF1 I found?
4) Understood that flashing NF1 will wipe out CWM. You state to odin flash TWRP. Does that mean I should NOT use CWM and switch to TWRP? I am more familiar with CWM and I would like to continue using that one if possible.
5) Lastly and more importantly, why will reverting back to MI7 will cause the bootloop or stuck on boot screen? Any solution to that at all?
Again, thanks for your suggestions and quick reply!!
calderonr said:
Wow, thanks for the quick reply..I am glad you answered because I was totally under the impression that reverting back was indeed possible..I would have been in a wold of hurt if something went wrong and I could not revert since I use this device for work as well. So this of course begs a few more followup questions
1) The firmware at https://mega.co.nz/#!ioglFaQD!IzrjOK...4s0wkKLTvit9BY I assume is NOT rooted and therefore I would have to root with CF-Root etc...correct?
2) What is exactly the bootloader in this context? You are not refering to TWRP/CWM I assume? Is it the built in code to get the startup going? I am familiar with Linux bootloader like LILO and GRUB...is it the same concept?
3) Understood on restoring apps with Titanium backup...you refer only to the official firmware. Are you suggesting that I should not use the stock rooted NF1 I found?
4) Understood that flashing NF1 will wipe out CWM. You state to odin flash TWRP. Does that mean I should NOT use CWM and switch to TWRP? I am more familiar with CWM and I would like to continue using that one if possible.
5) Lastly and more importantly, why will reverting back to MI7 will cause the bootloop or stuck on boot screen? Any solution to that at all?
Again, thanks for your suggestions and quick reply!!
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Be careful who you listen to on xda.
If your knox warranty flag is 0x0 DO NOT follow those instructions if you want it to stay that way.
To check, boot into download mode (reboot with volume+power+voldown.
If it's 0x0 and you want to keep it that way, you'll want to know that if you upgrade, flashing a custom recovery WILL ALWAYS trip knox once your bootloader is on kitkat.
The caveat is that if you want kitcat, you have to upgrade your bootloaders for things to work properly.
Now, with all that out of the way...
I would recommend going up to NF4 (bypassing NF1) as it is the latest.
I have a link in my sig with all the files for NF4 which also contains the upgrade method that doesn't trip knox.
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In case you can't see my sig due to being in xda app or tapatalk:
NF4 files and instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2834398
Or if you're dead set on NF1, there's a link to that thread at the top of the NF4 post. The instructions in post 2 of the nf4 thread are valid for nf1 add well.
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toastido said:
Be careful who you listen to on xda.
If your knox warranty flag is 0x0 DO NOT follow those instructions if you want it to stay that way.
To check, boot into download mode (reboot with volume+power+voldown.
If it's 0x0 and you want to keep it that way, you'll want to know that if you upgrade, flashing a custom recovery WILL ALWAYS trip knox once your bootloader is on kitkat.
The caveat is that if you want kitcat, you have to upgrade your bootloaders for things to work properly.
Now, with all that out of the way...
I would recommend going up to NF4 (bypassing NF1) as it is the latest.
I have a link in my sig with all the files for NF4 which also contains the upgrade method that doesn't trip knox.
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Toastido...Thanks for the reply...I have already tripped the warranty counter so lets say that at this point I am OK with that
So a few questions for you :
1) I am OK going to NF4 and I assume that the files/links you pointed me to below will still work on a tripped knox flag? Correct?
2) Does the same apply that if I go to NF4 there is no way to revert back to MI7?
3) Does your NF4 upgrade link/instructions contain the bootloader needed ? I assume so but want to make sure just in case I need anything else other than what you pointed me to. I am asking this because you stated "if you want kitcat, you have to upgrade your bootloaders for things to work properly. "
4) Can I continue to use CWM or do I have to switch to TWRP?
5) What about rooting? Is your firmware rooted or do I need to do it myself? If so, what do you recommend for rooting?
Thanks!!!
calderonr said:
Toastido...Thanks for the reply...I have already tripped the warranty counter so lets say that at this point I am OK with that
So a few questions for you :
1) I am OK going to NF1 and I assume that the files/links you pointed me to below will still work on a tripped knox flag? Correct?
2) Does the same apply that if I go to NF1 there is no way to revert back to MI7?
3) Does your NF1 upgrade link/instructions contain the bootloader needed ? I assume so but want to make sure just in case I need anything else other than what you pointed me to. I am asking this because you stated "if you want kitcat, you have to upgrade your bootloaders for things to work properly. "
4) Can I continue to use CWM or do I have to switch to TWRP?
Thanks!!!
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Hey!
1) yes. I'd recommend just flashing the full package in desktop odin in that case. Power of your device completely for 10 to 30 seconds then boot directly to download mode.
2) yes. Once you go up from jb to kk you cannot go back. This is due to bootloader update efuses.
3) yes they do.
4) you can use cwm if you want, just make sure to get the correct one. Usually they are tagged kk or 4.4. Using jb versions will no longer work.
I assume you meant nf4, but the same applies to either.
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toastido said:
Hey!
1) yes. I'd recommend just flashing the full package in desktop odin in that case. Power of your device completely for 10 to 30 seconds then boot directly to download mode.
2) yes. Once you go up from jb to kk you cannot go back. This is due to bootloader update efuses.
3) yes they do.
4) you can use cwm if you want, just make sure to get the correct one. Usually they are tagged kk or 4.4. Using jb versions will no longer work.
I assume you meant nf4, but the same applies to either.
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Yeap...I meant NF4 and I sent in an edit but you beat me to it..ok...I will give this a try...I did ask one more question on the edit that I am not sure where it went...
5) About rooting...if I use odin to flash the full package as I have done before (selecting PDA), how would you recommend I root the NF4 since I assume the stock firmware is NOT rooted. Do you recomend CF-Root?
thanks aod sorry to pestering I want to make sure I do this right the first time!!
calderonr said:
Yeap...I meant NF4 and I sent in an edit but you beat me to it..ok...I will give this a try...I did ask one more question on the edit that I am not sure where it went...
5) About rooting...if I use odin to flash the full package as I have done before (selecting PDA), how would you recommend I root the NF4 since I assume the stock firmware is NOT rooted. Do you recomend CF-Root?
thanks aod sorry to pestering I want to make sure I do this right the first time!!
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Np. As for number 5, yes, CF-Auto-Root is the best (maybe the only?) method for fw beyond ne6. If you do this and find supersu missing, a simple install from the play store afterwards will fix you right up.
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toastido said:
Np. As for number 5, yes, CF-Auto-Root is the best (maybe the only?) method for fw beyond ne6. If you do this and find supersu missing, a simple install from the play store afterwards will fix you right up.
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Toastido :
Not trying to be dense here but help me understand this. Its re. the inability to go back to MI7 from NF4. You say it has to do with the bootloader, BUT, if I take a CWM backup BEFORE I flash NF4, would not that backup contain the MI7 bootloader in it, so when/if I restore the backup, would not that also restore the MI7 bootloader and the device would not even notice it had flashed NF4 before? Granted I would have to re-clash the JB compatible CWM before I restored, but would that not work? If not, can you explain why?
Thanks!!
calderonr said:
Toastido :
Not trying to be dense here but help me understand this. Its re. the inability to go back to MI7 from NF4. You say it has to do with the bootloader, BUT, if I take a CWM backup BEFORE I flash NF4, would not that backup contain the MI7 bootloader in it, so when/if I restore the backup, would not that also restore the MI7 bootloader and the device would not even notice it had flashed NF4 before? Granted I would have to re-clash the JB compatible CWM before I restored, but would that not work? If not, can you explain why?
Thanks!!
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No it would not work. The reason, as stated in a previous post, is due to eFused bootloaders. Once the efuse is tripped, it cannot be reset, and the bootloader will fail if it's value is lower than the fused value. Otherwise just flashing the bootloader backwards would work. If you go the odin route you will be protected by odin mode. If you try via recovery of a nandroid that contains the bootloader, it'll either just not work, or (worse) brick your device.
The fuses are tripped in a sequential order. 0,1,2,3 etc. JB BL can only operate on fused value of 1 or lower. KK BL can only install and function (depending on current version) at 3 or lower.
NB4 will fuse to 2. NE6 through NF4 I believe will fuse to 3, thus preventing the JB BL from functioning.
Hope that helps.
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Let me know how it goes. I have to update mine to.. I'm on NB4 with no issues but I should update anyways.
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I've been waiting for months for an official samsung kitkat update for my phone. (i9195L). Today I checked on sammobile and saw that the update has arrived, for Trinidad and Tobago.
Now that it has been released, I want to know if I can flash it over my Carbon Rom, which has Android 4.4.4.
I want to know if I can go back to stock and flash this new firmware with kitkat on my device via Odin, or if I will have any problem considering I'm actually downgrading to 4.4.2.
Thanks in advance.
rolo143 said:
I've been waiting for months for an official samsung kitkat update for my phone. (i9195L). Today I checked on sammobile and saw that the update has arrived, for Trinidad and Tobago.
Now that it has been released, I want to know if I can flash it over my Carbon Rom, which has Android 4.4.4.
I want to know if I can go back to stock and flash this new firmware with kitkat on my device via Odin, or if I will have any problem considering I'm actually downgrading to 4.4.2.
Thanks in advance.
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Good rule of thumb with OTAs. Don't perform then on a custom rom. I would use Odin to report to stock. Then see if you can get the update via OTA. However keep in mind that the newer update may not have a root method so if that is important to you, check into that. And always back up in recovery! Flashing back to stock should not harm you device.
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U won`t really downgrade But take into consideration this :
Do u have Knox bootloader active ? 0x0 or 0x1 in download mode ? Once u flash KitKat u can`t downgrade to samsung jellybean. U can flash aosp again if stock samsung won`t fit u . If u don`t have Knox bootloader i woyld flash an older firmware that does not contain Knox, 2 3 times in a row until u bring your phone to Official not custom and after that flash samsung kitkat. That way u will sure have knox not triggered, all flashed good modem and so and no problems. I think i write too much and u won`t understand a thing ( i`m bad at explaining stuff )
SilviuMik said:
U won`t really downgrade But take into consideration this :
Do u have Knox bootloader active ? 0x0 or 0x1 in download mode ? Once u flash KitKat u can`t downgrade to samsung jellybean. U can flash aosp again if stock samsung won`t fit u . If u don`t have Knox bootloader i woyld flash an older firmware that does not contain Knox, 2 3 times in a row until u bring your phone to Official not custom and after that flash samsung kitkat. That way u will sure have knox not triggered, all flashed good modem and so and no problems. I think i write too much and u won`t understand a thing ( i`m bad at explaining stuff )
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Yes, you write too much, lol. But I get your point. Thanks for the reply.
I have Knox set to 0x1 so I guess it's activated, but I don't have any plan going back to jelly bean. i will stay with kitkat.
Besides I think there's already a way to root stock with kitkat via Towel root, so I guess it's a lot of help.
rolo143 said:
Yes, you write too much, lol. But I get your point. Thanks for the reply.
I have Knox set to 0x1 so I guess it's activated, but I don't have any plan going back to jelly bean. i will stay with kitkat.
Besides I think there's already a way to root stock with kitkat via Towel root, so I guess it's a lot of help.
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Towelroot works only on roms made before july i think. Older won`t work
SilviuMik said:
Towelroot works only on roms made before july i think. Older won`t work
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I don't completely agree. Towelroot worked on stock 4.4.2 for me fresh after an Odin restore. I believe it doesnt work on HTC phones and something else. Don't hold me to that I could be wrong. But Towelroot should work great for the OP
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I'm currently on DU Rom, if I want to test offical Kitkat I have to flash it with odin? And if I want to go back to DU how can I do it? With a backup?
Flatric said:
I'm currently on DU Rom, if I want to test offical Kitkat I have to flash it with odin? And if I want to go back to DU how can I do it? With a backup?
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Yes if you stock kit kat without root and such you will need to use odin. Using odin will give you a complete stock. Recovery, kernel, etc. Meaning you won't have a custom recovery to restore a back up. Back up your current setup using your custom recovery and keep the back up on your external storage. If you choose to go back if stock doesn't work for you, you may be able to restore the back up once you re-root and install the custom recovery, but it may cause some errors. I'm not 100% sure that the restore will work or not. My suggestion is to find a stock rom that is only rooted and not modded. Less hassle that way. And much easier to go back to your current rom if you don't want the stock rom.
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One question: If I already installed this firmware (kitkat) How can I root it? Towelroot? I don't want to trigger Knox, I want to Root it workout having to enable Knox and put that message with yellow letters..
Edit: I rooted it by installing recovery and flashing the rootkit. So far so good.