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First of all, I absolutely LOVE ICS. I'm even getting a nexus to have AOSP ICS. It's great, but not on this phone. I ran it for 4 days and I am glad I did, but no more. I just want to explain why.
First of all: the camera. While everything but recording WORKS, it does not WORK WELL. The autofocus is awful, and I struggle to take a picture I would take in a second with skyraider. The pictures also are often very grainy. Now, as of AOKP, camcorder works, and flash works on Angel Camera. Everything about the camera works.
Second: Apps. I'm not talking about the ICS apps. They are incredible. On our phone though, many apps I love, like temple run , as well as others crash or just don't work. Some apps just have lots of FC's.All apps except for temple run that I use have no issues now.
Third: Battery life (depends on ROM). On AOKP, the battery life is absolutely abysmal. However, it is wonderful on the Nexus, which is why it is strange to me. I have many media wakelocks, and other issues. Getting amazing battery life with build 31 of AOKP with aero's v9 kernel.
Fourth: Stability. Just today, my gallery decided to stop working. Before, I have had random lockups, a mess of FC's and many other things. For me, it's very important to have whatever feature I need, when I need it. Not in 5 minutes, not in a hour. If I need to take a picture, I need to take one. If I need to check a website, the browser had better not start force closing. If I need to download an app, the Play Store had better not crash 5 times. Twice today, my phone decided to just have a black screen when getting a phone call, and I couldn't answer them. I have not had any issues with ICS stability on this build or the last couple of aero's.
Note though, that I am not saying that YOU shouldn't run ICS. In fact, if you can, DO IT! Just I can't, sadly. The developers do an absolutely incredible job porting this stuff no thanks to HTC. I really want to thank them for that. I'll just be sticking with GB unless there's a leak for us. I just wanted to write this up, not sure why. Oh, well.
Now, ICS is amazing, and there is no reason anyone shouldn't run it, unless you are stuck on sense!
Party on Wayne!
I'm excited for ics, but until we get a good leak I don't see me using it for a while
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You're rationalizing. Embrace the mediocre pictures. I can't leave ics because the cm9 music and MusicFX I flashed sounds so fn awesome it makes me cry.
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Are you getting a nexus one(good battery), nexus s(also good battery, or a galaxy nexus( the battery is so bad it can't keep up with charge). Just wondering, I'd go for the nexus s if I didn't have a upgrade and I needed a new phone.
If I had an upgrade I'd get the rezound. I like soft keys(actually I don't like the red soft keys on the rezound, I like the ones on the dinc 2 better), even though are soft keys are a part of the touch screen. It's the fastest phone on the market, and it can take amazing pics. Not to mention the battery is good and development is plentiful. And its getting ics soon......
IDK why I wrote this
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Huh, so the Galaxy Nexus has horrible battery. Let's see what an extended battery, franco kernel, and AOKP have to say about that. Oh, yeah, with stock battery and AOKP/franco, you get 3 hrs screen on time. Woops. And the Rezound is my least fav phone out of the "big 3". Now that has terrible battery life. I have a friend, you know the one that gave all the ICS leaks to the Rezound users? Yeah, him. He tried a Nexus and said the battery was amazing compared to his Rezound. Also, the Rezound is really thick, overheats, and has Sense 3.5/.6. Ugh.
Amphibliam said:
Huh, so the Galaxy Nexus has horrible battery. Let's see what an extended battery, franco kernel, and AOKP have to say about that. Oh, yeah, with stock battery and AOKP/franco, you get 3 hrs screen on time. Woops. And the Rezound is my least fav phone out of the "big 3". Now that has terrible battery life. I have a friend, you know the one that gave all the ICS leaks to the Rezound users? Yeah, him. He tried a Nexus and said the battery was amazing compared to his Rezound. Also, the Rezound is really thick, overheats, and has Sense 3.5/.6. Ugh.
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3 hours screen on time is what I get with my extended battery on this
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I have to say. The battery on the ICS builds are not bad at all. I am running areos 31 build with stock kernel oc 1.2 and still have an all day battery with moderate usage. But to each his own.
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I wish the op best of luck, but I hated the GN. Terrible battery life, awful looking screen and one of the worst radios I have ever used in a phone. The only thing good about it was that it ran ICS natively.
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I have to say. The battery on the ICS builds are not bad at all. I am running areos 31 build with stock kernel oc 1.2 and still have an all day battery with moderate usage. But to each his own.
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Agreed, running the same here, getting a solid 2+ days battery life with light/moderate usage. I don't take many pics so not too worried about the camera. Music FC's on me every now and again, but I haven't had a single hiccup or reboot otherwise.
I do wonder if it's possible (perhaps in an upcoming build) to lock the messaging app & launcher in memory, as sometimes the messaging app is slow upon initially launching.
I'm gonna give ics one more shot with build 29 of aokp
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Everything will get even better once htc releases the ICS kernel.
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Well, I came straight from stock 2.3.3 to ICS. No other mods/roms of any kind. Been running for about 24 hours now and no problems at all. No lag, no force closes and no reboots. I have the 3500 mAh HTC battery and I've been heavily using it for these 24 hours and I've lost maybe 15%. When I say heavily, I mean drooling at the screen four hours. I'm amazed. At first I hated the video I seen of ics when it was first announced, I thought it was the ugliest thing I've ever seen, but im loving it rite now. I hope I can talk my bro in law out of this phone lol.
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Yeah, I love it but the bugs are too.much. I hope HTC releases a kernel soon
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Why aokp? Yeah there's more options but aeros kangs are way more stable
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I'm gonna give ics one more shot with build 29 of aokp
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I prefer using Aero's builds because they're WAAAY more stable and much faster than AOKP (I actaully tried to use AOKP and I couldn't get the hang of it). Why not Aeroevan?
OP update!
What are the recommended settings for undervolting/io scheduler?
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My settings:
Gov: interactivex
Max/min: 998/128
I/O: noop
UV: -75 across the board
How long does your juice last with those settings
Does anyone else use this ROM? I do and I get great battery life
i use it
every built gets better and better
battery life is ok, but not as good as with aosp or aokp roms
its not even snappy and smooth yet but usable
i would recommend trinity or franco kernel with miui...
I tried to install MIUI once and replace it with AOKP after 30 minutes of usage. This is pretty ROM and I really love themes and some cool things like the new audio player but lags, freezes and sometimes FCs pissing me off. Maybe after couple of builds I will try it one more time but for now I'm stick with AOKP.
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kresbeatz said:
I tried to install MIUI once and replace it with AOKP after 30 minutes of usage. This is pretty ROM and I really love themes and some cool things like the new audio player but lags, freezes and sometimes FCs pissing me off. Maybe after couple of builds I will try it one more time but for now I'm stick with AOKP.
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Hahahaha I did the same thing, did not last on my phone for longer than 20 minutes. To laggy.
I'm using the one directly off MIUI's site. None of that what so ever. I'll have 82% battery with a full day on stand-by and I can go a full day with heavy use and no charging til at night.
http://miui.us/forums/content.php?219-MIUI-us-2-4-27-v4-Roms
Maguro build.
I'm currently looking for a ROM base to modify to my needs. I really like the features available in cm but I'm not sure if cm10 (stock) is stable enough for production use yet. Does anyone have experience with this?
Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Even though they are not any RC's yet its pretty stable I have been running a nightly for two weeks
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
Sorry for OT - but try JBSourcery instead. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824624&highlight=jbsourcery&page=3
I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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You can also try Paranoid Android which has CM10 as its base and this ROM has been very stable for me. This ROM can be used in stock phone layout, phablet, or tablet modes.
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I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
Has anyone compiled cm10 from source with no customizations other than the camera, NFC, and GPS files? How is that build? I'm going to be modifying it for personal and perhaps submit back.
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
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Gotcha, thanks, I still was having issues, but I think it was hardware of 515.10 dropping connection
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ldp_frog said:
How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
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GPS is perfect. Locks immediately. Battery life is nothing to write home about. I have the official extended battery and with decent use I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
Everything is perfect except for the battery. Almost afraid to flash another ROM because everything on the CM10 preview works for me.
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I've been using XenonHD ROM for about a month now and find there are many features that were present in CM9! Runs fast and smooth!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667418
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I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
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JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
Running vicious rom, the cm10, great with Franco kernel and his app. No complaints. Only thing is i can't get play music to download to my phone from the cloud
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CMNein said:
JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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I highly recommend Better Battery Stats if you don't have it already. There's a free XDA version posted on the site, but the Market version is well worth the ~3$ also. Sync and location services (GPS or Google) and Google Now seem to be the biggest offenders on JB. I run sync and location sparingly.
That said, the GN is definitely no battery queen unfortunately :crying:
Hello N7(2) users! I just got me a tablet yesterday, and I'm curious. What ROM do you recommend? Currently, I'm running carbon, on both my n4 and n7, and I want something different. Something quick, easy on the ram, and great with the battery. Thanks in advance for your oppionion!
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I can recommend you to test them all
btw; AICP is my favorite
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I'm using Paranoid Android on my Galaxy Nexus, but I haven't felt the need to depart from stock ROM on the N7 2013. I use elementalX Kernel though and added TWRP.
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I can recommend you to test them all
btw; AICP is my favorite
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yes try em all out then try them again you will find the one you realy like then a new one will come along then you have to try that one aswell
its an addiction
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yes try em all out then try them again you will find the one you realy like then a new one will come along then you have to try that one aswell
its an addiction
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I get the addiction. I just want something good and stable, I don't want to flash-kill my new tablet. Lol!
Imma try psx then the one in the second post..
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Hello N7(2) users! I just got me a tablet yesterday, and I'm curious. What ROM do you recommend? Currently, I'm running carbon, on both my n4 and n7, and I want something different. Something quick, easy on the ram, and great with the battery. Thanks in advance for your oppionion!
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I've flashed my flo 20+ times. I was using various Cm builds but I got tired of the instability after a week or more of use. I tried PA but it's just not stable on my device yet. Slimrom worked well for me but it was lacking some convenience features and it wasn't very fast. I recently flashed Omnirom to try out the multi window feature. The rom was glitchy but multi window did work. I flashed something else once I found out that you can't keep a video playing on half the screen while you use another app on the other side.
For kernels I started with elemental and then switched to faux when it came out. I've dabbled with Franco and glitch but Faux gives me the best battery life by far. I got busy with work and didn't touch my tablet for awhile. I ended up with over 20 days of standby with faux.
I know you said you wanted a change but I've finally settled on Carbon. It's the fastest and most stable rom that I've found this far. PIE, Halo, and floating window all work great. The benchmarks and daily performance are right up there with the CM roms. I've just been using the kernel that comes with Carbon and I'm getting good battery life. Faux is currently ironing out some kinks but I'll switch back to it soon for the battery life and screen calibration options.
Stay stock since it's a Nexus device. If you decide to experiment stay stock first at least for a few weeks to establish a baseline so you'll know if it's ROM related if you run into issues.
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I've flashed my flo 20+ times. I was using various Cm builds but I got tired of the instability after a week or more of use. I tried PA but it's just not stable on my device yet. Slimrom worked well for me but it was lacking some convenience features and it wasn't very fast. I recently flashed Omnirom to try out the multi window feature. The rom was glitchy but multi window did work. I flashed something else once I found out that you can't keep a video playing on half the screen while you use another app on the other side.
For kernels I started with elemental and then switched to faux when it came out. I've dabbled with Franco and glitch but Faux gives me the best battery life by far. I got busy with work and didn't touch my tablet for awhile. I ended up with over 20 days of standby with faux.
I know you said you wanted a change but I've finally settled on Carbon. It's the fastest and most stable rom that I've found this far. PIE, Halo, and floating window all work great. The benchmarks and daily performance are right up there with the CM roms. I've just been using the kernel that comes with Carbon and I'm getting good battery life. Faux is currently ironing out some kinks but I'll switch back to it soon for the battery life and screen calibration options.
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I had 50% of my battery drain in carbon from cLock.. I was just wondering if there was a good ROM to utilize what the device is. A tablet. No point in clock being there. You can't use it on the go much. I dunno
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zakkyzombie said:
I had 50% of my battery drain in carbon from cLock.. I was just wondering if there was a good ROM to utilize what the device is. A tablet. No point in clock being there. You can't use it on the go much. I dunno
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cLock doesn't even show up in my battery stats. Is it the clock widget? I deleted the stock one and just use trusty ol' Beautiful Widgets.
Carbon doesn't have a tablet UI but I didn't care for it much in the other roms I've tried. The device just isn't that big so the regular phone UI works fine for me. Even adjusting the dpi makes things too small to be touch friendly for my fingers.
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cLock doesn't even show up in my battery stats. Is it the clock widget? I deleted the stock one and just use trusty ol' Beautiful Widgets.
Carbon doesn't have a tablet UI but I didn't care for it much in the other roms I've tried. The device just isn't that big so the regular phone UI works fine for me. Even adjusting the dpi makes things too small to be touch friendly for my fingers.
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I mean like app mods/apps that enhance the 7inch awesomeness. I don't like tablet ui. Don't really care for phablet. But hey. Lol
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I have owned my nexus 7 2013 for about a week now and i am thinking of returning it due to the lag/stuttering i am experiencing on it. I started noticing it when i flashed lollipop on it, i went back to kitkat 4.4.4 and thing's were certainly improved but i thought i would do a comparison against my moto g 1st gen and i was surprised to see my moto handled thing's better, app opening/closing animations are a hell of a lot smoother and game play is smoother too.
Is this normal behaviour i am experiencing or did i mess something up when i flashed lollipop using wugfresh toolkit? I also rooted it and flashed a custom kernel but after an hour or so i went back to stock, i even went as far as flashing 4.3 then updating back to 4.4.4 through my tablet and done a few factory resets but no difference.
Are you completely stock? Stock kernel and everything?
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Are you completely stock? Stock kernel and everything?
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Yes currently everything is stock
I am also experiencing the same issues on lollipop. I might have to do a completely fresh install. May be, it's just our devices showing their age. I don't want it to go the Nexus 7 2012 route!
Nah man, I installed DJ's 5.0 build and I am getting much better performance and battery life than KitKat. I also have Elemental kernel installed, smooth as silk.
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I am also experiencing the same issues on lollipop. I might have to do a completely fresh install. May be, it's just our devices showing their age. I don't want it to go the Nexus 7 2012 route!
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I actually did do a fresh install of lollipop. I went back to kitkat hoping the lag will be fixed but it's still here a little although it is improved.
It's a shame i didn't get the nexus 7 2013 when it 1st came out, maybe with all the newer processors out the nexus 7 is showing it's age. I still find it weird that my moto g runs smoother although that could be down to the lower res screen.
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Nah man, I installed DJ's 5.0 build and I am getting much better performance and battery life than KitKat. I also have Elemental kernel installed, smooth as silk.
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Did you try it on stock rom/kernel? I actually flashed elementalx when i went back to 4.4.4 and i kept it at default settings but noticed some frame drops on temple run 2 so i completely unrooted and took everything back to stock but it's still the same.
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It's showing its age a bit definitely also it's an adreno 320 pushing a 1200p resolution, and that GPU was really designed with 720p in mind. That being said while I definitely can tell a difference between my nexus 5 and nexus 7, the nexus 7 has aged very well and still enjoyable to use unlike my HTC flyer and original nexus 7 that both aged very quickly and became a burden to use within months
I got mine last Christmas so I never used 4.3 on it. I was rocking a nexus 4 at the time and it was noticeably faster than it was. As far as lollipop goes seems the same. Think it might depend on what apps you use, as a lot and I mean a lot of apps aren't optimized for lollipop yet.
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It's showing its age a bit definitely also it's an adreno 320 pushing a 1200p resolution, and that GPU was really designed with 720p in mind. That being said while I definitely can tell a difference between my nexus 5 and nexus 7, the nexus 7 has aged very well and still enjoyable to use unlike my HTC flyer and original nexus 7 that both aged very quickly and became a burden to use within months
I got mine last Christmas so I never used 4.3 on it. I was rocking a nexus 4 at the time and it was noticeably faster than it was. As far as lollipop goes seems the same. Think it might depend on what apps you use, as a lot and I mean a lot of apps aren't optimized for lollipop yet.
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I replaced it with a galaxy tab pro 8.4, it's around the same price and the hardware is better than the nexus 7 so hopefully it will be a little more future proof
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