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[REVIEW] Phonejoy bluetooth gamepad - new video bluetooth multiplayer via MHL!

A little something for retro gamers (or just gamers) amongst us:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/21/...phonejoy-refresh-dual-analog-sticks-are-a-go/
...and now N64oid updated to 2.4 for bluetooth multiplayer support!
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/n64oid-updates-to-24-multiple-bluetooth.html

Nice video.
I've already pre-ordered mine. Hopefully it will come soon enough.

Talking to Martin at Phonejoy it should be very soon!

i liked this concept, but it would have been a 'yes' from me, if only they incorporated a keyboard style controller, which we could attach to our s2 ;(

I got an email from the makers just a couple of minutes ago to say they are making one just like that (similar to the iControlPad, one that the phone sits within). Its presently in the design stages.

Wanna have one
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I got an email from the makers just a couple of minutes ago to say they are making one just like that (similar to the iControlPad, one that the phone sits within). Its presently in the design stages.
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+1
Hope 2 see it soon ;-)
I already thought of making my own construction.

Clove have a pre-order going on these now, they need 50 orders by the 15th of August to go ahead (no idea how many they currently have). If you are keen its worth looking into.
http://www.clove.co.uk/phonejoy-analog-android-game-controller

Disappointing. So the 'Analog' sticks aren't Analog after all, hence running everywhere in Mario and the sniper issues you mention. Pretty pointless upgrade from the original then no?
Or is it that the emulators are just not programmed to understand the analog instructions?

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I got an email from the makers just a couple of minutes ago to say they are making one just like that (similar to the iControlPad, one that the phone sits within). Its presently in the design stages.
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I have been searching for one for so many days.... Definitely order one.

£47?
Other than not needing a custom rom, how is this any better than using a proper ps3 controller?
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Err, is it possible to get ps3 controllers working with a custom rom then? excuse my ignorance..

r2001uk said:
£47?
Other than not needing a custom rom, how is this any better than using a proper ps3 controller?
Sent from my Galaxy S II using XDA App
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It'll work with any HID supporting device - which at the moment is a lot more devices that you'll find with PS3 support.
True PS3 support is starting to get out there though - if you're on CM7 or MIUI you should be able to use a PS3 remote right now, since there is a software out that can do it (forget the name, search for sixaxis in the Market brings it up).

deezle said:
Err, is it possible to get ps3 controllers working with a custom rom then? excuse my ignorance..
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If you have a custom ROM with a normal bluetooth stack, yes. There is a sixaxis app in the market for a couple of dollars IIRC, there's also a free app to make sure it'd work before you buy it.

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It'll work with any HID supporting device - which at the moment is a lot more devices that you'll find with PS3 support.
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Yeah that's a big plus for me at the moment I guess - I'm now rooted but I'm happy with stock (and don't fancy playing with buggy nightlies again).
It just struck me as a little pricey for something that sounded very cheapo (maybe it was just the recording). My Datel retro controller only cost £17ish - although that's as limited as a PS3 controller with regards to bluetooth, sadly.
Do we have MIUI for SGS2? I might look into that...

In hindsight, I think I'm gonna try and get one of these - there's a crappy dilemma with the PS3 controller:
- Put custom ROM on, allow PS3 controller to work with 'normal' BT stack, sacrifice TV-Out via MHL/HDMI
- Stay stock, retain TV-Out but obviously unable to use PS3 controller.
Seems Clove decided not to stock them though, that sucks.

Ive ordered one from the phonejoy website. I was using CM7 before to play with my ps3/wiimote controller, but I need my TV out too. So back to a rom which allow my TV out and buying that controller.
I was going to go with an Icontrolpad, but its at least X2 more expensive than this one... Gonne give a review when ill get it, it should take +-1-2 months... that suck haha

IIIPowerIII said:
Ive ordered one from the phonejoy website. I was using CM7 before to play with my ps3/wiimote controller, but I need my TV out too. So back to a rom which allow my TV out and buying that controller.
I was going to go with an Icontrolpad, but its at least X2 more expensive than this one... Gonne give a review when ill get it, it should take +-1-2 months... that suck haha
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Yep, the TV Out is an important aspect for me, and part of the reason I'll be sticking with the Phonejoy for now at least.
iControlPad is just plain worse for use with TV Out, while it is better for portability the price seems pretty unrealistic to me. Phonejoy have been developing a similar control pad to the iControlPad style, no ETA on availability etc, but its in the works.
Incidentally, the latest Jirioni Arcade update is compatible with the MAME4ALL ROM set, pretty good with this set up!

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Yep, the TV Out is an important aspect for me, and part of the reason I'll be sticking with the Phonejoy for now at least.
iControlPad is just plain worse for use with TV Out, while it is better for portability the price seems pretty unrealistic to me. Phonejoy have been developing a similar control pad to the iControlPad style, no ETA on availability etc, but its in the works.
Incidentally, the latest Jirioni Arcade update is compatible with the MAME4ALL ROM set, pretty good with this set up!
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And why icontrolpad is worse for tv out? You dont need to have the cellphone right to it, so icontrolpad or phonejoy will do the same thing in the end. I know icontrolpad can have some claw to hold the cellphone, but theyre not needed to use it.

some Phonejoys are appearing on ebay UK now.. i got mine for like £41.00, cheaper that his website and shipped from the uk
I'm really quite impressed with it, love using the sticks in games like Syphon Filter. So good using TV out on a big screen, my phone is now basically a super portable multi-console. love it

Reason the iControlPad is worse is that its a worse controller configuration for emulating systems like the PSX/N64, if you're tethered to the TV then its mobility advantage is irrelevant.

External Gamepad

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knew of any aftermarket gamepads/keyboards that can attach to the Galaxy via bluetooth/micro usb.
This is due to my friend showing off his Xperia Play, which obviously isn't quite the phone that the SGS2 is. But bragging rights are always nice.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: I've had a look at Zeemote JS1, MSI Chainpus BGP100, Phonejoy and iControlPad. None are what I'm after, I was picturing something that transforms the phone into something similar to the Xperia Play, but it doesn't seem to exist

Phonejoy. There's a thread about it here and it can be bought here.

Thanks
I was thinking more along the lines of something smaller, that attaches to the device? I understand that there probably isn't anything out there. But it could be something to look forward to as the phone becomes more popular

Towards the end of the thread the icontrolpad is mentioned. I don't think there's much else that works yet though.
I'd like a phonejoy personally, but that's to hook up to my 50" plasma and MHL adaptor, not really a great portable system!

k1000716 said:
Towards the end of the thread the icontrolpad is mentioned. I don't think there's much else that works yet though.
I'd like a phonejoy personally, but that's to hook up to my 50" plasma and MHL adaptor, not really a great portable system!
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That would be quite nice! It could also work well with my ASUS TF101. I guess we'll have to give it time, or give up
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it

I've always thought about getting a Gamepad then the HDMI cable. Basically playing Emulators on the big screen. That basically be making your phone a game system.

I'm running CyanogenMod, because I love it. But they haven't sorted the HDMI drivers, so I haven't got a cable yet. What would the display look like on a 32" LCD or 50" LCD? That's quite a resolution stretch!

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I'm running CyanogenMod, because I love it. But they haven't sorted the HDMI drivers, so I haven't got a cable yet. What would the display look like on a 32" LCD or 50" LCD? That's quite a resolution stretch!
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Pretty damned good actually. Have a look at NZtechfreak's mhl gaming review on the clove blog.
I've only used mine a couple of times so far and the hd videos I've had looked sensational.

That's brilliant! I'd best get on that

FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
I've always thought about getting a Gamepad then the HDMI cable. Basically playing Emulators on the big screen. That basically be making your phone a game system.
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Exactly my thinking too. And with phones due out next year having such powerful processors they become the perfect multi-use device.
Nice username by the way.
DallasJones said:
That's brilliant! I'd best get on that
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Have a read through some of NZtechfreak's other threads to see discussion about MHL, USB OTG, extended batteries, gamepads etc. He does user based tech reviews for Clove so is pretty knowledgeable and has access to some pretty good gear.
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Check out Phonejoy's website - they've now got MHL cables (adaptor with a 1.5m hdmi cable).

k1000716 said:
Have a read through some of NZtechfreak's other threads to see discussion about MHL, USB OTG, extended batteries, gamepads etc. He does user based tech reviews for Clove so is pretty knowledgeable and has access to some pretty good gear.
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Will do, I was thinking about getting an extended battery. (Samsung just released a 2000 MaH)
But I'd need a new skin for the back cover. I'm using this one right now with the Matte finish and I love it! http://www.istyles.com/milky-way-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skin-p-70295.html

if we're talking about gamepads,
is it possible to connect the wiimote as a mouse/keyboard?
I found Wii Controller IME but it doesnt works for me.

eranyanay said:
if we're talking about gamepads,
is it possible to connect the wiimote as a mouse/keyboard?
I found Wii Controller IME but it doesnt works for me.
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From memory it has been discussed before and the answer was no. At the moment the search function is down so I can't even find the thread for you...
Sorry, search is temporarily unavailable. Please note, search is down nightly from 12:30AM Eastern / 4:30AM UTC for approximately 20-30 minutes.
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It apparently works with CyanogenMOD and MIUI. It won't run on anything based on the stock firmware.

k1000716 said:
From memory it has been discussed before and the answer was no. At the moment the search function is down so I can't even find the thread for you...
Sorry, search is temporarily unavailable. Please note, search is down nightly from 12:30AM Eastern / 4:30AM UTC for approximately 20-30 minutes.
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It apparently works with CyanogenMOD and MIUI. It won't run on anything based on the stock firmware.
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Right now, the CyanogenMod and MUIU roms don't have fully functional bluetooth drivers, due to the sheer complexity in writing them. Team Hacksung is working on this though, as far as I'm aware the only part of bluetooth that is working is file transfer.

DallasJones said:
Right now, the CyanogenMod and MUIU roms don't have fully functional bluetooth drivers, due to the sheer complexity in writing them. Team Hacksung is working on this though, as far as I'm aware the only part of bluetooth that is working is file transfer.
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Are you sure (I guess you are though!)? After reading through some of the threads yesterday it seemed as if people already had them working. I guess I misread/misunderstood.
I need to get some cash together to get a phonejoy, have been wanting one for a while now (just hard to justify!!).

I'm not 100% sure. That was my interpretation. I've decided to get an MHL adapter, and a Phonejoy. They'll fix the drivers eventually if they're not working already

Wiimotes etc do work with MIUI and CM already, lots of user reports confirming this.
MHL doesn't work though, and considering TV Out in the original SGS was a problem for CM developers (still not working as far as I'm aware), it may be some time before they sort out that aspect for us with our SGSIIs.

Well I just bought both, I might go back to a Samsung rom. CyanogenMod has been less than impressive with updates lately
EDIT: Is this as impressive as it sounds?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171523

NZtechfreak said:
Wiimotes etc do work with MIUI and CM already, lots of user reports confirming this.
MHL doesn't work though, and considering TV Out in the original SGS was a problem for CM developers (still not working as far as I'm aware), it may be some time before they sort out that aspect for us with our SGSIIs.
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Sweet, a visit from the much quoted man himself. Now you can answer questions without me having to locate your old threads.
Having no MHL is a major for me. Why bother with a wiimote if you're playing on a 4.3" screen... Just my opinion of course. I'd much rather the Phonejoy/MHL combo.

His reviews sold me
It was a pleasure, gentlemen.

TV DVB-T Tuner for Motorola Moto G - Working!

Hi guys,
I've tested a TV DVB-T tuner on the Motorola Moto G and works flawlessly. You can check it on this review - sorry, it´s in Spanish but you can understand easily just watching it
cheers

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Hi guys,
I've tested a TV DVB-T tuner on the Motorola Moto G and works flawlessly. You can check it on this review - sorry, it´s in Spanish but you can understand easily just watching it
cheers
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Cool!

can you record on this, i seen something that looked like a record icon ?

tillaz said:
can you record on this, i seen something that looked like a record icon ?
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Yes you can. According to the guy explaining the functions, it is possible.

works in India?
I heard Delhi has the facility of airing DD channels...Anyone can confirm that?

Cheapest i could find here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310802737212?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

the link in the video description on YouTube is cheaper http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...=B00DZR3OKS&linkCode=as2&tag=androidphoria-21

Any US links... the exchange rate from pounds is murder :/

wonder if any old pc tv usb dongle would work if connected via otg cable ?

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wonder if any old pc tv usb dongle would work if connected via otg cable ?
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I was thinking the same thing...
I haven't really had time to check, but any dvb-t stick that's been around for some time where the Linux kernel supports it "natively" should do, right?

gosa said:
I was thinking the same thing...
I haven't really had time to check, but any dvb-t stick that's been around for some time where the Linux kernel supports it "natively" should do, right?
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That depends. I have a few and they do vary in how much power they suck out of the usb port. I have a Hauppauge Hybrid 900 (950 in the US) that gets very hot and drinks power like an alchie. I also have an Asus mini 3000 I got for my eeePC 700 that sips very genteelly. Both have native Linux support but since I bought the above dongle, I won't be trying those.
The other problem is that you would need some android TV software that could interact with those sticks. The programs on Google Play seem to be very hardware specific.

Smart things link/hub for Nvidia shield TV

Anyone have any experience/info on these? Sounds like some pretty good deals going on:
https://shop.smartthings.com/smartthings-link
use promo “SHIELDLINK” to get the link for just $9.99
use “SHIELDBUNDLE” to get the bundle package, which incudes the link, two led bulbs and a motion detector for just $39.99
i have two shields in the house. just ordered 1 of the links for 9.99 and the kit for 49.99. all of that for $60 and free shipping.
More info: https://www.androidcentral.com/smar...ur-shield-tv-complete-home-automation-hub?amp

I ordered one as well, just the link for 9.99 (+4.5 shipping).
I have been running an open-source PC z-wave server for years (HomeGenie), which has no GoogleHome/Assistant compatibility.
Have been looking at SmartThings for a while, but so far wasn't worth $80 with HomeGenie working just fine.
Now for $10 it was a no brainer!!! Definitely a great deal!

Seems like a deal but how to benefit if you are from Europe, The Netherlands?

so how's this work then? has the shield got built in Z wave and Zigbee radios?

cable_guy said:
so how's this work then? has the shield got built in Z wave and Zigbee radios?
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The shield doesn't, the dongle does.
I used it for about 6 months and retired it when Experience 7.0 came out.
If you plan on using it exclusively with Smartthings, if works great.
My story is that...soon after purchasing it, I discovered Home Assistant. Home Assistant is open source and the best piece of software around for home automation. With a little bit of work I was able to integrate Smartthing and Home Assistant and got all my devices in both software (the big advantage of Home Assistant - or HA - is that I can interface with everything around the house, such as Chromecasts, Kodi, ios location, smart TVs, receivers, Smartthings etc. It connects all different APIs within one platform).
But when Exp 7.0 came out, the ports used for this to happen were blocked, and ruined my setup. So I bought an actual SmartThings hub.
Again, if use is exclusively made in Smartthings, it works great.

New Shield already available for purchase @ Best Buy. Official release date OCT 28th!

Anyone else getting it/looking forward to it? I'm looking forward to that new remote most of all tbh
I will 100% be getting it, but I'm waiting for Black Friday to buy it. Putting my old (2017) Shield in my bedroom, new Shield in the living room and Firestick in the guest room.

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Anyone else getting it/looking forward to it? I'm looking forward to that new remote most of all tbh
I will 100% be getting it, but I'm waiting for Black Friday to buy it. Putting my old (2017) Shield in my bedroom, new Shield in the living room and Firestick in the guest room.
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Where is it available? I looked and only see old one..NOW available on Nvidia site

I am in CT and I see it listed on the best buy site. Says it is available at their Danbury CT store today.

The base model looks so disgusting , no way I'm placing this on my shelf to expose, plus it lacks USB ports and has no gamepad. Why would they make it round like that ? An article I read says it might be to compete with firesticks and chromecast small form factor devices. No USB ports is a killer though.. my favorite keyboard/remote combo could not work in it. So the only way to have gamepads to play on this would be bluetooth ? I might go with the pro eventually , but not until it's been tested by the community and that feedback has been given.
Edit: Just notice the remote is triangular... Why can't nvidia design a proper remote ?

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The base model looks so disgusting , no way I'm placing this on my shelf to expose, plus it lacks USB ports and has no gamepad. Why would they make it round like that ? An article I read says it might be to compete with firesticks and chromecast small form factor devices. No USB ports is a killer though.. my favorite keyboard/remote combo could not work in it. So the only way to have gamepads to play on this would be bluetooth ? I might go with the pro eventually , but not until it's been tested by the community and that feedback has been given.
Edit: Just notice the remote is triangular... Why can't nvidia design a proper remote ?
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The "non" pro is meant to lay on the floor where your cables run and not be visible. I has an SD card slot. This may be enough for most people.