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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
kingofthebraves said:
I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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+1 it's truly amazing how many people cannot read or follow rules/directions.
Pretty sure this Development section is the wrong place for an opinions thread.
To not seem like a jerk though, I'll share. I had an SG2, my GNex battery lasts on avg 35 hours with normal texting/facebook/calls. with gaming still get around 18hours.
I HATED the lag in screen wake with the SG2. (it's due to the way SG2 goes into deep sleep)
& Screen brightness? Honestly, I never have the brightness more than 60% unless showing off pictures.
Woops didnt mean that sorry . Mods if you'd kindly move my thread now before everyone flames my ass: )
Yeah one of the reasons why i wanted to switch my s2 was the wake up lag and the annoying home button lag . Seems allsamsung branded phones come with this now.
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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Dai323 said:
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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Not being funny but that's how You like you'r fone set up, don't mean he's gonna like it too
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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No. Just...no.
hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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Ease of convenience does not always make for better solutions. Short cuts don't always work out so well and if your going to be modifying your device why not take the time to learn the correct methods? But on the other hand, to each their own.
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hp13 said:
just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know.
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Correct but if you plan on rooting it you most definitely should know the steps behind it.
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seriously? who cares how people root their phone...go outside.
and yeah op, the gnex is pretty sweet for roms and mods, but yeah the s2 has some better attributes then the nexus
and I'm really loving it so far. I got it with ICS on it, set it up and checked for system updates and behold... 4.1.1 is now installed. I really love the feel of JB. I came from a G2X and I've had to run all GB roms because all the ICS roms frankly sucked. Not devs fault so don't take that the wrong way. I think I'll leave it stock for a day or two to make sure the phone is good then I'll Root it and start playing. Anyways... glad to be here guys.
Welcome to the community, and I am glad you are enjoying your Galaxy Nexus.
Hey congrats I just received mine a few days ago from the play store too. I was just wondering, if I use the toolkit to unlock the bootloader all data will stay on the device correct? Just want to make sure before I go ahead and do it.
eagles20015 said:
Hey congrats I just received mine a few days ago from the play store too. I was just wondering, if I use the toolkit to unlock the bootloader all data will stay on the device correct? Just want to make sure before I go ahead and do it.
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Backup your data anyway just in case. IN GENERAL, Play Store phones do not wipe when you unlock, but that data was based from the batch last April/May/June.
I agree with Harveydent backup just in case. I got mine a two weeks ago though and mine didn't wipe after unlock but better safe than sorry.
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I just got my play phone last week. The tool kit DID erase all data, which was different than everything I read. So at least for me, doing the one click process in the tool kit to unlock, flash CWM, and root took me back to factory. Wasn't a big deal since I only set up my account and upgraded to 4.1.1. So didn't set me back.
How do I backup things without root privileges?
I already have the toolbox installed on my computer, I'm dying to start tinkering lol. just think it'd be wise to give it a day or 2 to make sure everything is good with the phone.
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I already have the toolbox installed on my computer, I'm dying to start tinkering lol. just think it'd be wise to give it a day or 2 to make sure everything is good with the phone.
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I haven't tried it but it's one of the tools in the toolbox
I've had mine for a few months...came from iOS, probably won't leave. Just installed JB and I'm loving the speed!
is it possible to fastboot boot cwm.img with a locked bootloader?
i got mine a couple days ago too! running vicious jellybean ROM because I have verizon, loving it!
welcome i also come from a o2x and know exactly how you feel:what:
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Hello everyone. This is Clockworkmod Recovery v6.0.2.8 v1 for Optimus G Pro.
As you all know, it's 2nd-init recovery. That means if your phone bricks, only lgnpst will revive your phone.
First its how-to is same as the first one with small letters on it
1. Install application that I uploaded
2. Open it and Click 2nd-init recovery
3. Click Reboot recovery to see it worked.
As you know, we cannot change boot image. That will brick your phone.
And if you want to reboot recovery by pressing button, reboot it and you will see button flickering. Than you have to click any button. Fast.
That's all. And of course, you have to have your device rooted.
Thanks to: 985hPaKicK(WHO MADE THIS RECOVERY) and wkpark(who found out the way to increase font size, see this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30818456&postcount=8)
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disclaimer: I did not make this recovery or recovery app, see 'thanks to'
Reserved...
well slap me silly, gonna load it now. :fingers-crossed:
Dang, I might have to sit this one out.
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Question is can we use this to flash mods and do backups since were bootloder locked?
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Question is can we use this to flash mods and do backups since were bootloder locked?
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Yes, you can
Are we supposed to get a couple fc once we press reboot recovery? Seems to work great otherwise. I just wanted to make a quick backup before I start removing bloat.
jordant2 said:
Are we supposed to get a couple fc once we press reboot recovery? Seems to work great otherwise. I just wanted to make a quick backup before I start removing bloat.
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I'd not remove the bloat if I were you. If your phone boot loops, there is no way into recovery. I'd just freeze the apps using titanium or something instead.
To answer your question, I get the force closes as well.
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lessthanzach said:
I'd not remove the bloat if I were you. If your phone boot loops, there is no way into recovery. I'd just freeze the apps using titanium or something instead.
To answer your question, I get the force closes as well.
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I didn't fully remove anything. I just renamed most of the at&t apps to .bak using root explorer. Now I have working WiFi tether and I'm all set!
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I dont remove either. just freeze or disable.
I dunno who created this recovery but until we get a unlocked bootloader theres no way to use this if your softbrick or bootloop. The dev should look into implementing a timeout feature when you reboot your device. The moto phones have this kind of recovery with bootstrap and safestrap. We could use it until we crack this thing.
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I dunno who created this recovery but until we get a unlocked bootloader theres no way to use this if your softbrick or bootloop. The dev should look into implementing a timeout feature when you reboot your device. The moto phones have this kind of recovery with bootstrap and safestrap. We could use it until we crack this thing.
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The problem is for some reason LG devices get no love from DEV's. Unless its a NEXUS. Its bull crap the S4 and HTC devices get cracks and roms.
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The problem is for some reason LG devices get no love from DEV's. Unless its a NEXUS. Its bull crap the S4 and HTC devices get cracks and roms.
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Yeah ive noticed that. Im debating exchanging mine for a s4. Not sure yet. I have to have at least some kind of aosp or custom rom - kernel.
I'm going to remain patient, but for sure if I don't see any kernels fixing the phone's ability to render live wallpaper without lag I'll be sselling mine and buying the s4 developer edition. That is, as long as it still supports the remote control feature.
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I'm going to remain patient, but for sure if I don't see any kernels fixing the phone's ability to render live wallpaper without lag I'll be sselling mine and buying the s4 developer edition. That is, as long as it still supports the remote control feature.
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Why not just get a regualr s4? Once the bootloader is unlocked you will have aosp. Thats what ill do if i exchange. To be honest ive gone through the lg forums and aside from the nexus 4 these phones dont get much if any love. Shame as this phone is great and has great potiential. Shame i only have a week and 1/2 left to exchange if i have to. I dont see the bootloader being cracked by then.
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Why not just get a regualr s4? Once the bootloader is unlocked you will have aosp. Thats what ill do if i exchange. To be honest ive gone through the lg forums and aside from the nexus 4 these phones dont get much if any love. Shame as this phone is great and has great potiential. Shame i only have a week and 1/2 left to exchange if i have to. I dont see the bootloader being cracked by then.
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I have an LG Nitro and there have been quite a few roms (most importantly official CM support) on our forums. I even installed the ubuntu test thingy on mine. But I'll have to admit I do get jealous of some of the other phones who don't just get occasion roms but regular releases of most of them.
welcome to the lg team guy....lolllll when i bought mine last week, one of my motivation was the fact that i"m not such a "flasholic"...so since for now we can root this thing and flash rom (stock rom) with cwm...a debloated rom will follow for sure, i"m positive!!! but dam, compair to sammy on DEV side...its like running in ferrari and fall in "mini" lollll
lg just entering in the "top" device with the g pro...even if the note 2 is 6 month old...its the first phone that i saw lg putting specification beyond sammy in phablet side.....:good:
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welcome to the lg team guy....lolllll when i bought mine last week, one of my motivation was the fact that i"m not such a "flasholic"...so since for now we can root this thing and flash rom (stock rom) with cwm...a debloated rom will follow for sure, i"m positive!!! but dam, compair to sammy on DEV side...its like running in ferrari and fall in "mini" lollll
lg just entering in the "top" device with the g pro...even if the note 2 is 6 month old...its the first phone that i saw lg putting specification beyond sammy in phablet side.....:good:
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As good of a phone as it is im not super confident we will get much development. Im going to exchange for a s4 tomorrow. The development coming to that device is unreal. They arent even unlocked yet either but its coming shortly lol.
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As good of a phone as it is im not super confident we will get much development. Im going to exchange for a s4 tomorrow. The development coming to that device is unreal. They arent even unlocked yet either but its coming shortly lol.
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I would stick with this but to each their own. This is a far superior phone to the S4. Funny is that I'm a flash-o-holic but I love this phone way too much.
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I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?
0 #!*! Given ?
That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
2SHAYNEZ
I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
sent from my lgog pro. I just had to go bigger.
@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.
I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him
Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Close thread please.
2SHAYNEZ
I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
Antigen said:
Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
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hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
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But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.
This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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I have had this phone now for maybe 4-5 months. Coming from a nexus 5 I am really upset. The lag on this device is god awful. I cant even carry on a hangouts chat because the typing is so laggy. I constantly have to go close my recent apps to try to recover some ram in order to make the device speed even remotely bareable. My nexus 4 was crisp and snappy as was my nexus 5. I very rarely experienced any slowdown and now I am stuck with this device that is just so horribly slow.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to fix this? I may just go plunk down to repair the faulty power button on my 5 and just use that. A much nicer device that cost me less than the 5x.
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I have had this phone now for maybe 4-5 months. Coming from a nexus 5 I am really upset. The lag on this device is god awful. I cant even carry on a hangouts chat because the typing is so laggy. I constantly have to go close my recent apps to try to recover some ram in order to make the device speed even remotely bareable. My nexus 4 was crisp and snappy as was my nexus 5. I very rarely experienced any slowdown and now I am stuck with this device that is just so horribly slow.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to fix this? I may just go plunk down to repair the faulty power button on my 5 and just use that. A much nicer device that cost me less than the 5x.
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What have you tried already to speed things up? Also, what rom build are you on? I presume stock? Rooted or not?
The first thing I would suggest is a factory reset and/or flash the latest factory image.
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What have you tried already to speed things up? Also, what rom build are you on? I presume stock? Rooted or not?
The first thing I would suggest is a factory reset and/or flash the latest factory image.
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I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.
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I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.
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What build number? Settings > about > build number.
I would still recommend trying a full wipe after being at least on the March build.
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What build number? Settings > about > build number.
I would still recommend trying a full wipe after being at least on the March build.
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build number MMB29Q
If it isn't working for you sell it and buy something else. Simple as that.
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briandresstoyota said:
I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.
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These threads annoy me. Especially when people haven't rooted or unlocked their NEXUS devices. Half the point of these phones is to unlock and root them without having to work too hard or get in trouble from your carrier. I don't think I owned this phone for more than a few hours before flashing a new ROM on it.
Many other people have had the same complaints as you and after spelling out the steps they should take to unlock, root, flash a new ROM and kernel, they're often much happier with their devices. The RAM thing is a joke, tbh. I think a lot of people read the threads and articles about how "The New Nexus 5 successor only has Two Gigabytes of Memory?!" and now everyone blames that on their slowdowns and lag issues.
Take some time out one night and unlock your phone, flash the newest radios, vendors, custom recovery, etc and flash a custom ROM. It's a breeze. If you ever did it on your original N5, you'll have no trouble with this phone. There are plenty of great ROMs to choose from. Then, if you'd like, flash a custom Kernel as well. The performance will be night and day. If you'd like to take it further, check out the Interactive Governor Tweaks thread and download a profile or two from there. It really improves the battery life and performance in most cases... All is not lost, my friend. If you do what I explained I am confident you will be much happier with your phone.
Exactly what Alcolawl said. The only reason I ever booted the stock ROM was to check "Allow OEM Unlocking". I am coming from a 6P and I have noticed absolutely no lag or stutter. The phone is a bit creaky, which I expected at a low price point, but the hardware is excellent. I didn't think anybody bought a Nexus and didn't unlock it and root it.
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These threads annoy me. Especially when people haven't rooted or unlocked their NEXUS devices. Half the point of these phones is to unlock and root them without having to work too hard or get in trouble from your carrier. I don't think I owned this phone for more than a few hours before flashing a new ROM on it.
Many other people have had the same complaints as you and after spelling out the steps they should take to unlock, root, flash a new ROM and kernel, they're often much happier with their devices. The RAM thing is a joke, tbh. I think a lot of people read the threads and articles about how "The New Nexus 5 successor only has Two Gigabytes of Memory?!" and now everyone blames that on their slowdowns and lag issues.
Take some time out one night and unlock your phone, flash the newest radios, vendors, custom recovery, etc and flash a custom ROM. It's a breeze. If you ever did it on your original N5, you'll have no trouble with this phone. There are plenty of great ROMs to choose from. Then, if you'd like, flash a custom Kernel as well. The performance will be night and day. If you'd like to take it further, check out the Interactive Governor Tweaks thread and download a profile or two from there. It really improves the battery life and performance in most cases... All is not lost, my friend. If you do what I explained I am confident you will be much happier with your phone.
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Exactly what Alcolawl said. The only reason I ever booted the stock ROM was to check "Allow OEM Unlocking". I am coming from a 6P and I have noticed absolutely no lag or stutter. The phone is a bit creaky, which I expected at a low price point, but the hardware is excellent. I didn't think anybody bought a Nexus and didn't unlock it and root it.
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Totally get where you guys are coming from. I used to root every device and flash custom Roms all the time. I was flashing custom roms on the G1 before most folks even knew what android was. I still have a Nexus 5 in my closet with paranoid Android on it as well as a 2012 Nexus 7 with paranoid Android that got so dead without charging that now it won't even boot. Man really wish I could figure out how to fix that one.
My point is that I guess I've gotten used to not having to play with custom Roms(or having any desire to) My hope was that I wouldn't need to get into all that that's all. I'll go through and unlock/root and flash some Roms and that will be that. Thanks for the advice.
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If it isn't working for you sell it and buy something else. Simple as that.
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If you're gonna just be a smart ass gtfo my thread dude.
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I ran Q completely stock for awhile without any issues. I would definitely try a factory reset or flashing the stock images.
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I ran Q completely stock for awhile without any issues. I would definitely try a factory reset or flashing the stock images.
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I ended up clearing cahce on a lot of different apps and also realized that esfile explorer has a recylce bin. It was storing all my deleted files. Cleaned that out and whoosh, fast again. Still think I'll root and play with some Roms though.
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briandresstoyota said:
Totally get where you guys are coming from. I used to root every device and flash custom Roms all the time. I was flashing custom roms on the G1 before most folks even knew what android was. I still have a Nexus 5 in my closet with paranoid Android on it as well as a 2012 Nexus 7 with paranoid Android that got so dead without charging that now it won't even boot. Man really wish I could figure out how to fix that one.
My point is that I guess I've gotten used to not having to play with custom Roms(or having any desire to) My hope was that I wouldn't need to get into all that that's all. I'll go through and unlock/root and flash some Roms and that will be that. Thanks for the advice.
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If you go through with all this and flash a custom ROM & kernel, let me know how it compares to stock would you? I have a rooted/unlocked 6p which I LOVE but my wife wanted something easier to handle so we got her the 5x. Her's has similar issues overall but unfortunately she's not really for me messing with her phone (sigh, I know lol). Anyways, am curious for an honest opinion, especially with a pure Nexus/ex kernel combo as my 6p works a dream with that Just figured I'd ask if ya happen to do it, otherwise no worries. Thanks!!
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If you go through with all this and flash a custom ROM & kernel, let me know how it compares to stock would you? I have a rooted/unlocked 6p which I LOVE but my wife wanted something easier to handle so we got her the 5x. Her's has similar issues overall but unfortunately she's not really for me messing with her phone (sigh, I know lol). Anyways, am curious for an honest opinion, especially with a pure Nexus/ex kernel combo as my 6p works a dream with that Just figured I'd ask if ya happen to do it, otherwise no worries. Thanks!!
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Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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Awesome thank you!! Try a purenexus/ex kernel combo and let me know what you think! Also, what carrier are you on? Don't suppose Verizon by chance right? I only ask as I read a few posts in that thread about VoLTE not working, which I found odd as it works perfectly on my 6p.
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If you're gonna just be a smart ass gtfo my thread dude.
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I'm fully serious. My Moto X Pure wasn't working out for me so I sold it and bought this. If this phone didn't meet my expectations I'd buy a different phone. If the phone lags, sell it and buy something else that doesn't. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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have u tried some benchmark test? (in fresh firmware)
+ highly recommend CyanogenMod without any Mod.
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Awesome thank you!! Try a purenexus/ex kernel combo and let me know what you think! Also, what carrier are you on? Don't suppose Verizon by chance right? I only ask as I read a few posts in that thread about VoLTE not working, which I found odd as it works perfectly on my 6p.
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I will totally give pure/ex combo a shot. Unfortunately I am on att
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briandresstoyota said:
I will totally give pure/ex combo a shot. Unfortunately I am on att
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No worries, I'll look forward to your response! Thanks again!
Wait! I just realized I don't have a USB c to a cord. Anyone rooted without a computer?
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