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For those of you on Jelly Bean AOSP/AOKP ROMS, is there really a noticeable every day differences between an AOSP JB ROM and SAMMY ROM? I am talking about everyday usages not benchmarks. I am on a Sammy ROM and I don't notice any stuttering or lag when I'm switching through home screens, browsing the web etc. I see people on youtube swiping through the different home screens and app drawers and saying how JB is really smooth but I ask how much smoother can it be. I know that on the Galaxy Nexus hardware may have had a play, but with the GS3 is it really that much better or noticeable?
I just ask because I am not sure if I want to take the risk of installing an AOSP/AOKP Rom and loosing my IMEI.
Yes, I noticed a pretty significant difference. Everything opens up faster and its a smoother experience. Keep in mind though that its still not quite as smooth as can be just yet.
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Definitely
There is a difference in how smooth everything switches and transitions. One thing, though, I wouldn't base your decisions off of benchmarks. These are completely useless numbers because of the many variables from device to device. When I was on the stock ROM, it was nice and didn't glitch at all, but tended to be slow at times. ATM I'm running AOKP JB Preview and there's a world of difference. The pages are smoother and apps open and close faster. It really all comes down to preference though. If you can part with TW and the pretty cool sounds/effects of TW, then this is definitely worth it IMO.
Also. I had no problems with my IMEI. My flash counter has been bumped, but devs are currently working on getting a fix for that.
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There is a difference in how smooth everything switches and transitions. One thing, though, I wouldn't base your decisions off of benchmarks. These are completely useless numbers because of the many variables from device to device. When I was on the stock ROM, it was nice and didn't glitch at all, but tended to be slow at times. ATM I'm running AOKP JB Preview and there's a world of difference. The pages are smoother and apps open and close faster. It really all comes down to preference though. If you can part with TW and the pretty cool sounds/effects of TW, then this is definitely worth it IMO.
Also. I had no problems with my IMEI. My flash counter has been bumped, but devs are currently working on getting a fix for that.
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There has long long been a fix for the flash counter. Triangle away, check it out in the market.
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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For your browser issue, try Dolphin Beta.
For games like Real Racing, it wasn't made for the S3, therefor, it can't achieve full gfx. A fix to the choopyness would be to look into custom ROMs (Either TW or AOSP based). If it's something that interest you, you have a lot of reading to do before jumping into it but once you understand how it works, it's fairly simple.
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I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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Some possible changes to make:
1. for browser, I use the AOSP browser because it is superior in speed and usability to any other browser I try
2. you could switch to another AOSP rom that will have less bloatware and no skin on top of it slowing it down (this will be slight change)
3. to fix laginess on certain points you can try flashing a different kernel with various tweaks that increase butteryness
4. root and overclock the minimum cpu frequency. While this won't help with graphics too much in games (thats GPU), it will help with laggy transitions. Be forewarned, this might decrease battery life depending on what you end up changing the minimum to
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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It's really easy, just gotta read and understand what you're doing before going into it.
Getting a toolkit can be a start. Although, you can skip that and download pre-rooted stock ROM for your carrier.
Here's a good guide to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822308 - I would download GooManager from the market and install TWRP recovery instead of installing CWM recovery like that guide suggests. It's quite simple, just hit a couple buttons
Once you're rooted and have a custom recovery, you can install a ROM from the Dev section (TW or AOSP).
Thanks for all the input and direction to the thread on rooting and Roms. I am very good and can understand directions for this stuff just gets a little overwhelming researching this and seemingless see so many different methods with small variations and then through the word Bricking in too. I love to customize and make stuff my own so i'm pretty sure I will give this a try. Thanks
I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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sorry to hear that you are on vista but it should do the job, my windows 8 even works fine. it doesn't matter which rooted stock rom you flash, but I would recommend flashing Jelly Bean rather than ICS just because well its newer
oh and for first custom rom, I would recommend, Carbon Rom nightlies, they are stable and smooth and have a lot of customization http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136846
Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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Welcome to the community!
Glad you chose the OG, It's an awesome phone, with a great dev community
Androidawg said:
Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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As far as the camera, download the Google Play Edition Camera apk. Way better. As far as launchers, go with either nova launcher or Apex launcher with a JB Skin. I use it over holo launcher because I can hide apps in the app drawer and make the search bar persistent. I also use Holo Locker as my lock screen.
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This is an awesome phone with great devs. Just make sure you unlock the bootloader before debloating
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This device is one of the best you can get, and at the same time, can be one of the biggest pains you can buy as well. But, with some patience, balls, and a little insight, you can be running anything you want. If your interests are more towards stock, Lifeless and Vectus are both very good ROMs with plenty of features. If you prefer custom ROMs with lots of extras and choices, I personally would recommend one of the ROMs I work on, Beanstalk and JellyBeer. There are also AOKP, CM10, CM10 w/ Linaro, Rootbox, and others that will give you pretty much any kind of experience you want. Just make sure you read the rooting and unlocking thread very carefully and follow the instructions to the letter to avoid any hiccups. Also worth mentioning is the fact that all ROMs do have quirks and imperfections to them(I believe Lifeless is as close to complete stability as you can get, but it also is as close to stock as any of the others). All of these works are constantly being updated with fixes and new features, but our device can be finicky, so if you require total stability, you may just want to stay with stock. If you need any help, you can PM me, and if you want to learn to build on your own, take a look at Project Rookie II. Be cool
Welcome. I myself had to make a decision between this and the other 2 phones. I'm glad in a way I went with this 1. Its definitely on par with the other "big names" and its just as good spec wise. Only problem i have is the camera when its zoomed. I'm going to try the google play edition like danny stated. As far as rom goes, I believe Lifeless has pretty much the most stable rom going. Its pretty much stock but without bloat. Battery has been good to me, only app that I had problems with was Pro Player, so I got GMMP and its been better on the battery. Great phone overall but kit didn't get the recognition it deserved.
I dont really know LG's track record on phones, but I hope they dont EOL it before KLP. I have a feeling they will because OG2 and OG Pro are out, but then again like I said I dont know how LG works.
I am still completely stock, just added a new launcher, locker, and the Play Camera. I have a completely working photosphere (awesome, something I really missed from my Gal Nex). I have noticed that when taking macro shots, the Play Camera focuses better. But I was able to get some decent macro shots on the stock camera by getting the focus set from farther back and zooming in. I am still tinkering with white balance and ISO settings. But the flash seems to be bright as the sun and I can't do much with it, my pics keep getting washed out with the flash. But the performance, holy crap this thing is fun to use. Everything just pops.
Hey guys, the poll is intended for those who have already flashed the 4.4.2 bootloader already, but comments from anyone on the subject are welcome. Overall, are you glad that you upgraded, or do you wish that you held off until the custom ROMs were a bit more mature? What specific advantages / disadvantages are you seeing vs. 4.3 and what Kit Kat ROM are kernel are you running?
I really like my current combo of Tweaked 4.3, the last Saber kernel, topped off with Wally's Paperkut theme. However, I've been seeing an increasing amount of appealing 4.4.2 ROMs and have been thinking about crossing the point (bootloader) of no return. I've also been seeing a big drop in the amount of complaints about the update, so it appears that most kinks are being irroned out.
So what do you all think? I should note that I'm super-dependent on wifi calling, so I'm limited to the T-mobile base, unfortunately. Some emphasis on NB4 based ROMs would be cool, but feel free to share any T-mobile Note 3 update experience.
I haven't seen any difference ... I will have to google to see what "features" I gained. I didn't like the ability to not be able to write to the SD card, but that's been fixed. And yes, finding a custom ROM isn't the easiest task ever!
I waited until the easy upgrade, root, sd card fix was out, and then did it. I'm super happy I did. The phone overall runs smoother, and takes less resources thanks to the KK OS. The only real thing I noticed was the all white icons, and the rounded toast notifications. I'm happy with the stock ROM since I use a lot of Samsung/TW apps especially the Hub, TV remote, and WhatsOn app, so I'm not looking for an alternate ROM, and plus I also use Xposed to get any features I want/need that the stock ROM doesn't have, so yeah, it's been a great upgrade for me.
I guess upgrade is better than no upgrade. I just didn't like the fact that to root is to trigger the stupid Knox warranty with kkos. But I can not go a full day with an unrooted phone so I root Knox can kiss me bye.
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I'm definitely glad I've held off on flashing 4.4.2. I just noticed that Jedi has been bumped up to 1.1, so I'm reading through the thread and might end up Odin-ing up to Kit Kat, or might continue to wait. I've never tried a Jedi ROM, but have found Saber kernel to run best on my device, so I'm kind of tempted to check it out for a while until Tweaked 4.4.2 is released.
Wish there was a way to import my Apex Pro homescreens across ROMs. I think that might be added to Nandroid Manager Pro, but isn't there yet... takes me forever to set up my screens, which is kind of a deterrent in itself from upgrading.
Anyways, any more experience with custom ROMs? Thanks again for the feedback so far.
Voted against, battery life took a dumpsky.
Forgot to mention, what a disappointment that the rounder toasts are the only visual difference. I actually use an Xposed module that backports the new toast style because I like it better. I think it's more congruent with my theme, Paperkut by Wally. I really dig his Kit Kat theme so I actually would have some visual differences but that's really lame as far as the stock update is concerned.
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Forgot to mention, what a disappointment that the rounder toasts are the only visual difference. I actually use an Xposed module that backports the new toast style because I like it better. I think it's more congruent with my theme, Paperkut by Wally. I really dig his Kit Kat theme so I actually would have some visual differences but that's really lame as far as the stock update is concerned.
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I regret it a lot!
My battery drains a lot faster than before.
Anyone else experiencing that kind of issue?
After spending two weeks of troubleshooting hell with 3 different note 3s from T-Mobile all due to kitkat crap, guess my answer?
I love it, battery life is insanely doubled.. Just need more tmobile roms to choose from.. Running International right now
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Simple upgrade, no real problems so far.
So far installed the update.zip that was posted in the Note II - the 4.4.2 update - discussion thread. So far, I'm loving it. I think it's much smoother, and feels like it breathed new life into my Note II. For a bit, it felt like it was kinda stagnating. Anyway, I wanted to start a thread on what you guys think on it, and wondering if anyone's found any easter eggs or new features? As for me, it looks pretty much the same, but feels much snappier and polished. Def feel it's much more polished. Anyone with thoughts?
It does feel snappier and looks more polished. But I took the update mainly for radio updates. I went right back to PA with plasma kernel. It looks better and the audio quality is amazing with viper4android plus kernel mods,compared to stock touchwiz. To each his own either way , at least we got an update.
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