Related
Hello,
I'm having a problem where my touch screen is no longer recognizing where I touch. I have been in the process in rooting my kindle, flashing the CM10 jelly bean ROM with SGT7 enhancements, and trying to install access to the Google Play. I did a backup before I rooted the kindle, but I haven't done any additional backups along the way.
Everything seemed to be fine until I started trying to install access to Google Play. I did not have it by default with the ROM so I went looking for it. I read the forums and tried a few things that other people had done but had no success (the google framework would not install) until I tried a procedure I found on youtube that someone else had had success with. After I installed it, I had two new icons "Market" and "Market Opener". When I selected either one of them, I was prompted to create an goodle account for my device, but the request always returned with an error saying the connection could not access the google server. So, I began looking around in all my settings to see if I could find a setting that might affect the success for failure of trying to do this, and I started having a lot of trouble with the touchpad responsiveness as I tried to navigate around the menus. It was very frustrating. So, since I had not done a back up before installing the market apps, I tried to uninstall it. But, the touch screen was just not cooperating. So, I went a step further and rebooted to recovery to see if I could uninstall the apps from there. But again, the touchpad was still not cooperating. It was very inconsistent and would respond to very few touches. So finally, I decided the heck with it and want to restore my backup to the stock kindle and start all over again. However, the touch screen won't recognize the swipe to confirm restoring the backup. So now I am hosed and I don't know what to do.
Is there any way to restore a backup through my PC using adb?
Here's what I think I have installed:
fff-u-boot_v1.4a.zip
KFU v0.9.6
openrecovery-twrp-2.2.0-blaze.img
cm-10-20120817-2143-SNAPSHOT-otter-sgt7-linaro.zip
ROOTexplorer.apk
GoogleServicesFramework.apk
KindleFireAndroidMarket.zip
MarketOpener.apk
I'm pretty new at this, so any hand-holding you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Valerie
P.S. It's also very puzzling to me why it seems to hard to find the right stuff to install in order to get access to Google Play. Any idea why it is so hard? I'd just like to understand. Thanks.
No replies
Wow, no one has responded to my post. This must be a problem no one has seen before. Leave it to me to find new ways to screw up!
Well, I've made a little progress getting my system back to a usable state. I was able to set the system back to factory defaults. Of course I lost all of my customized settings, but at this I don't really care. The touch screen works much better now. If I had to guess (but I could be wrong) I would say that my touch screen troubles were due to having played with the wallpaper settings (and maybe combined with placing widgets on the home screen). There might be something screwy going on there, but I don't know for sure, and I don't want to go back and attempt to recreate the problem right now.
Now, I still have the problem of not being able to connect to the market. I also have read other people's posts where they refer to the "google play" app. I have not seen a google play app. All I have is a "market" app. Where do I get the google play app?
vmallder said:
Wow, no one has responded to my post. This must be a problem no one has seen before. Leave it to me to find new ways to screw up!
Well, I've made a little progress getting my system back to a usable state. I was able to set the system back to factory defaults. Of course I lost all of my customized settings, but at this I don't really care. The touch screen works much better now. If I had to guess (but I could be wrong) I would say that my touch screen troubles were due to having played with the wallpaper settings (and maybe combined with placing widgets on the home screen). There might be something screwy going on there, but I don't know for sure, and I don't want to go back and attempt to recreate the problem right now.
Now, I still have the problem of not being able to connect to the market. I also have read other people's posts where they refer to the "google play" app. I have not seen a google play app. All I have is a "market" app. Where do I get the google play app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to flash a gapps archive appropriate for the ROM you have flashed on your system. Those other packages you have installed are for getting google play to work on the stock system. For a custom ROM, you just need to install gapps.
http://goo.im/gapps
Again, make sure you match the right gapps package for the system you are running. CM10 is JB, CM9 is ICS, etc. I'm not sure how the play/market packages you've already installed would affect the ROM. Just to be safe, I would just go back to TWRP, use factory reset to get back to a clean slate, reflash the ROM and then the gapps package. Then a reboot will take you straight into google's configuration wizard. Register your google account and you'll find google play ready for use among the installed applications.
Thank you!
kinfauns said:
You need to flash a gapps archive appropriate for the ROM you have flashed on your system. Those other packages you have installed are for getting google play to work on the stock system. For a custom ROM, you just need to install gapps.
http://goo.im/gapps
Again, make sure you match the right gapps package for the system you are running. CM10 is JB, CM9 is ICS, etc. I'm not sure how the play/market packages you've already installed would affect the ROM. Just to be safe, I would just go back to TWRP, use factory reset to get back to a clean slate, reflash the ROM and then the gapps package. Then a reboot will take you straight into google's configuration wizard. Register your google account and you'll find google play ready for use among the installed applications.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much kinfauns, I am now up and running. Your help is very much appreciated!
I'd been using FF18 for quite a while without incident, but after upgrading to FI27 (not OTA, via the one-click method), Google Play is hanging the system immediately after successfully downloading and installing any given app. It puts me on the usual page allowing me to open the app, I press open, and wham, the system freezes until it reboots automatically about a minute later. The app that I installed then runs fine.
(In testing this several times, I should mention that one time I actually was able to open an app I just installed, but it hung about 10 seconds in, and the system rebooted as usual. It ran fine after that.)
I've searched around a bit for this and see that I'm hardly the first to encounter this issue. Sometimes it occurs when no recent update has been performed at all. Unfortunately, I haven't really found a solution yet. The best I've seen is to delete the data for Google Play and Download manager, and rebooting, which I've done to no effect. I've also tried uninstalling Google Play, but I think in this case that just leaves me with the same version that I had, the one that came with FI27 (in any case, that didn't help either).
How does one go about troubleshooting this type of problem? I suppose wiping out the phone and starting over would fix it, but I was hoping for more of a surgical rather than nuclear approach. After all, on a PC, you don't reformat when you have a problem with a program.
Have you tried wiping the data for google services framework?
sent from MY BAD A$$ ET4G
patrao_n said:
Have you tried wiping the data for google services framework?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hadn't, but I did just now (there was just over 4MB there), along with a reboot following, and unfortunately it didn't help. Maybe Google Play services too, or something else?
Try deleting data for anything that says google play.
sent from MY BAD A$$ ET4G
You stated you upgraded so I'm assuming you didn't do a fresh install. Even if you did do a fresh install, restoring data & apps from an older version could cause problems. You should try a fresh load and work your way back from there.
Edit: Saw you did the one-click. Still think you should try a full wipe and try it again with a fresh load to see how it goes.
patrao_n said:
Try deleting data for anything that says google play.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've now done that (though one or two had no data), along with the framework one you mentioned earlier, followed by a reboot, but it still happens. Arghh!
tdunham said:
You stated you upgraded so I'm assuming you didn't do a fresh install. Even if you did do a fresh install, restoring data & apps from an older version could cause problems. You should try a fresh load and work your way back from there.
Edit: Saw you did the one-click. Still think you should try a full wipe and try it again with a fresh load to see how it goes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I chose the nodata FI27, since it said that it was good for same-version or upgrades (in this case, ICS to ICS), but I will choose the nuke-from-space one if there's no way out of this, though wouldn't just resetting to factory defaults at this point do the same thing?
It's a little bit disturbing that an issue with one app, albeit an important (though not essential) one, can require wiping the phone. If this were to come up again for some reason, maybe just one day out of the blue and not related to putting on a new ROM, it would be nice to know a way out.
Perhaps I can grab a log from somewhere with ADB?
rseiler said:
I've now done that (though one or two had no data), along with the framework one you mentioned earlier, followed by a reboot, but it still happens. Arghh!
Yes, I chose the nodata FI27, since it said that it was good for same-version or upgrades (in this case, ICS to ICS), but I will choose the nuke-from-space one if there's no way out of this, though wouldn't just resetting to factory defaults at this point do the same thing?
It's a little bit disturbing that an issue with one app, albeit an important (though not essential) one, can require wiping the phone. If this were to come up again for some reason, maybe just one day out of the blue and not related to putting on a new ROM, it would be nice to know a way out.
Perhaps I can grab a log from somewhere with ADB?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have a custom kernel with recovery make a backup. Or get one and do it and then do a full wipe and fresh load. That is the only way you'll know for sure.
Yes, I will, but I thought I'd live with it a while to see what I could learn.
I've found that opening the newly-installed app is not the issue: simply installing a new app is. If I wait on the "Open" screen right after an install, and do nothing, within a minute the system will freeze and reboot.
Interestingly, updating apps does not trigger the problem, as numerous apps have updated this week, even one that Google Play wanted me to approve manually. Go figure.
Anyway, I have a logcat of an example in case anyone is interested. In this case, I initiated an install at 15:26, which is when the log begins. It ends shortly after the reboot.
http://tny.cz/0b86937c
Are you on AT&T, rooted with CWM or TWRP recovery, and don't want to update to the new, currently un-rootable ROM, or take the chance that AT&T will push the FOTA update to your phone and attempt to install it without your knowledge? Here's one way to block it:
1. Download Autorun Manager from the Play Store.
2. Run Autorun Manager, give it SU privileges, and enter its Recommended Advanced Mode.
3. Go to Settings, check both "Show system entries" and "Enable system app disable", and return to the list of apps.
4. Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and open it.
5. Scroll down the list until you see "com.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver" (mine was at the bottom of the list). Uncheck this to Disable it.
6. Exit Autorun Manager.
That's it. FOTA updates are now blocked.
This info is available in various places here on XDA, and other places on the web. I'm just reposting it here for those that don't want to be bothered with the problems that can be caused by AT&T's pissy little update.
visionlogic said:
Are you on AT&T, rooted with CWM or TWRP recovery, and don't want to update to the new, currently un-rootable ROM, or take the chance that AT&T will push the FOTA update to your phone and attempt to install it without your knowledge? Here's one way to block it:
1. Download Autorun Manager from the Play Store.
2. Run Autorun Manager, give it SU privileges, and enter its Recommended Advanced Mode.
3. Go to Settings, check both "Show system entries" and "Enable system app disable", and return to the list of apps.
4. Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and open it.
5. Scroll down the list until you see "com.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver" (mine was at the bottom of the list). Uncheck this to Disable it.
6. Exit Autorun Manager.
That's it. FOTA updates are now blocked.
This info is available in various places here on XDA, and other places on the web. I'm just reposting it here for those that don't want to be bothered with the problems that can be caused by AT&T's pissy little update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
F#$K man. This is great...
I have been hit three times in a row by the latest little update from AT&T, and have each time ended with CWM Recovery loop. This is so effing wrong !! I have a post here on how to get out of the recovery loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603454&page=7 post #70.
EDIT: This did not completely remove the painful notification and for somereasoon I could not delete the downloaded in "/system/cache". So I applied the update, then used adb to recover from the CWM loop and delete the Fota.img, rebooted. Then I also installed the FOTAkill.apk app here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
Now the update is dead !!
chappatti said:
F#$K man. This is great...
I have been hit three times in a row by the latest little update from AT&T, and have each time ended with CWM Recovery loop. This is so effing wrong !! I have a post here on how to get out of the recovery loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603454&page=7 post #70.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Damn right it's WRONG! Deliberately borking folks that don't follow the master's rules. Especially those folks that have had the update pushed and automatically attempted install without their consent. Pure crap!
chappatti said:
EDIT: This did not completely remove the painful notification and for somereasoon I could not delete the downloaded in "/system/cache". So I applied the update, then used adb to recover from the CWM loop and delete the Fota.img, rebooted. Then I also installed the FOTAkill.apk app here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
Now the update is dead !!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good! Whatever works for you. My own experience with Android has been that a given "cure" will not necessarily work for everyone. As for the method I mentioned above I've gone 72+ hours without any data transfer related to the update. So far, so good.
Official OTA's aren't pushed out to those using an unlocked AT&T version on other carriers right?
Update FYI - 10 days now since making the adjustment in the OP and still no indication of my phone attempting any update.
I am unrooted and trying to find a way to keep from getting this notification. It downloaded
on its own-didnt do that with 2 previous updates. do i have to just keep ignoring it?
I have searched forums and net to no avail. btw, update and/or root not an option either.
thx for any ideas.
r, john
jb40 said:
I am unrooted and trying to find a way to keep from getting this notification. It downloaded
on its own-didnt do that with 2 previous updates. do i have to just keep ignoring it?
I have searched forums and net to no avail. btw, update and/or root not an option either.
thx for any ideas.
r, john
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure what version you're running, but you should be able to go to Setting, Applications (Applications Manager) whatever you have.
Find Samsung Update, stop it and uncheck notifications.
Sorry, I thought it was assumed. Im on ver 4.1.2
Also, the update comes from att. Greyed out in
App manager. Now what?
jb40 said:
Sorry, I thought it was assumed. Im on ver 4.1.2
Also, the update comes from att. Greyed out in
App manager. Now what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With root not an option, not too sure....
I have ideas....
I'm really not sure if download has really been completed. You should have been prompted multiple times to accept the update, and the download.
Same goes for installing it, it requires multiple prompts and you must say continue.
So, the download gets saved in the /cache directory. If I'm right, and I should be, you should be able to power your phone down,
Then boot into stock recovery and clear cache which will delete the downloaded cache update file.
Boot into stock recovery (HOLD VOL UP+HOME+POWER)
Picture of stock recovery
http://galaxys2root.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/att-galaxys2-unroot-11-690x404.jpg
You want to choose wipe cache partition.
Then when you boot back up, race over to Settings, Applications again and stop the update service. I'd leave notifications turned on for now just to watch what the update process is attempting.
The dl started on its own. Finished too I would bet. Tried killing dl by reboot.
No joy.att must really want us to have this-I had to fetch the 2 previous updates
As I mentioned. Now I have cont/pp dialogue every 8 hrs. Process for notification is
Com.wssyncmldm -afraid to use stock recovery- I dontknow that it wont goof up
Something else-and my cache directory shows empty. (Using es explorer)
jb40 said:
The dl started on its own. Finished too I would bet. Tried killing dl by reboot.
No joy.att must really want us to have this-I had to fetch the 2 previous updates
As I mentioned. Now I have cont/pp dialogue every 8 hrs. Process for notification is
Com.wssyncmldm -afraid to use stock recovery- I dontknow that it wont goof up
Something else-and my cache directory shows empty. (Using es explorer)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to be root to really see what's in /cache.
Stock recovery really is harmless, for the most part. If you choose data/factory reset all of your installed apps (ones that you have downloaded and installed) are torched and your settings, like Google account info, mail setup etc.
Cleaning out /cache is a good thing.
Maybe someone else will stop by and have another suggestion, but since you said root is not an option, I can't think of another way right now to stop it from bugging.
Well, i suspected there was nothing i could do without root. something simple. the greyed out att update process
along with the attempt to force feed the update to me speaks volumes. to me. I've seen way too much of things i
don't like with this 4.3 silliness(improve my hardware, ok). they're going to have to do better than bug me every
8 hours to get me to install it....
thanks for the suggestions,
r, john
jb40 said:
Well, i suspected there was nothing i could do without root. something simple. the greyed out att update process
along with the attempt to force feed the update to me speaks volumes. to me. I've seen way too much of things i
don't like with this 4.3 silliness(improve my hardware, ok). they're going to have to do better than bug me every
8 hours to get me to install it....
thanks for the suggestions,
r, john
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are wise to avoid that locked down bootloader with Knox...g
Sent from my NOTE 2.750...
Courtesy of our amazing developers...
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
ChewVodka said:
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
xLima said:
Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
xLima said:
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
xLima said:
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
xLima said:
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)