Hi all,
I've tried several passes at Google searching and haven't found these answers. I'm sure this community can help.
I've already rooted my Kindle Fire and put the stock JB ROM on there, good experience and it gave my KF new life.
So I am thinking about rooting and romming my T-Mobile Galaxy S3, but I have a few concerns and questions.
- What TMobile and Samsung features will I lose if I rom? Obviously for the most part none of their apps matter. But I heard that I would lose the ability to call/text over my Wifi connection, which would be a deal breaker considering the cellular connection quality in my house. Is that true? Are there any other features I might care about, that I'd lose?
- Will the face buttons on the S3 still work as they do now?
- Is the "Google Experience" ROM the same as the "stock" ROM? I heard about the "Google Experience ROM" on a podcast but cannot find this ROM in the forums.
- Anything else to consider? This is my first time rooting a phone - S3 was my first smart phone.
Thanks!
Dave
Just because you rooted, won't make you loose any of these features you do actually use. On the contrary you get to remove crap you don't care for. Without Root, your were previously prevented from removing some of the pre-installed apps.
Here's a good link for you to see what can be safely removed.
Now if you chose to install custom Rom, you stand to potentially loose Fabled Wi-Fi Calling. Face Unlock will still be there on other Roms.
Something else you need to know. There are 2 types of Roms. One that Samsung provides is called Touchwiz or TW Rom based on the framework of the same name. The others as you referred to as "Google Experience" Roms. These are commonly called as AOSP Roms. These roms don't have the Touchwiz framwork so won't support features such as Wi-Fi calling, since those only work on Touchwiz. There are other Non-Samsung Touchwiz roms. You will see a list of those and the AOSP Roms in my second link bellow for the Bible.
Since this is your First time on a Smart phone, here's few links you can read.
Welcome to your S3
Galaxy S3 Resource Bible
Hope this helps.
Please read ALL our sticky threads before doing anything to your device!
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Thanks for the info. OK from your comments and the links you provided, I gather that any ROM that is a TouchWiz based ROM will still contain WiFi calling. Is that correct? So theoretically I could load one of these ROMs and still be good to go. I have a couple more questions though.
- I've seen a few references to "stock" ROMs. Does the term stock refer to the base Android build (so there is only one of these per release of Android), or does it refer to the software that came with each phone (so there is one per phone)? If it is the latter then would I be able to load the TMobile stock ROM if I did not like the custom ROM I chose?
- Also curious about TouchWiz in terms of Android architecture, which I am still learning about. I was under the impression this is some kind of loader or launcher specific to Samsung. I did not realize it would inherently contain Wifi calling. Does this layer also provide for the face buttons of the S3? What is TouchWiz specifically - a layer that sits on top of base Android? Trying to understand how this layer fits into the grand scheme, and are there comparable layers created by other manufacturers?
In any case, I guess I'm not getting AOSP or CM anytime soon. The TouchWiz ROMs are less-known so I am less inclined to chance it. At the very least I could root and get rid of some of these apps.
Thanks!
STOCK = base Android build from that Device's Manufacturer. So there's only one per Android Release.
Yes you can revert back to T-Mo Version if you don't like custom Roms.
(Small verbiage correction. We call Flashing a Rom not "Loading" a rom. This is to distinguish from system firmware such as Bootloader and Recovery.)
Touchwiz is a framework, that's specific to Samsung. Read here for more on Touchwiz and rest of your questions. It doesn't contain Wi-Fi calling but T-mo's feature of Wi-Fi calling needs to have this framework on your phone to work. There are other T-mo features such as Caller Name ID that needs this framework as well. What do you mean by Face buttons ? Face recognition ?
I had a question to tack on to OP's question, since it seems relevant here.
Ive noticed through looking at the "bible" stickied post that there seem to be 3 major types of roms: CM-based roms (roms that took CM10 code for the GS3 and used it to achieve AOSP compatibility, then rolled their own features), Rootbox based roms (dont know what this is or what it does), and Stock based roms.
Right now, I wanted to try out a Stock rom, as from my understanding, a Stock rom is one in which the developer starts with a stock firmware image from samsung, does things such as root, deodex, zipalign, debloat, etc, and then releases. The advantage of the stock rom, from my understanding, is that it is incredibly stable (assuming no kernel tweaks and similar) compared to the bugs we may experience on roms that are CM based.
I'm experiencing issues with CM roms that are not deal breakers by any means, but definitely make me want to look for greener (less buggy) pastures.
Is there a more up-to date version of the stock rom list? Is there a good way to search for stock-based roms?
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I had a question to tack on to OP's question, since it seems relevant here.
Ive noticed through looking at the "bible" stickied post that there seem to be 3 major types of roms: CM-based roms (roms that took CM10 code for the GS3 and used it to achieve AOSP compatibility, then rolled their own features), Rootbox based roms (dont know what this is or what it does), and Stock based roms.
Right now, I wanted to try out a Stock rom, as from my understanding, a Stock rom is one in which the developer starts with a stock firmware image from samsung, does things such as root, deodex, zipalign, debloat, etc, and then releases. The advantage of the stock rom, from my understanding, is that it is incredibly stable (assuming no kernel tweaks and similar) compared to the bugs we may experience on roms that are CM based.
I'm experiencing issues with CM roms that are not deal breakers by any means, but definitely make me want to look for greener (less buggy) pastures.
Is there a more up-to date version of the stock rom list? Is there a good way to search for stock-based roms?
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All of the stock Touchwiz based roms are in Android Development, so start there. A dead giveaway is if a build number is in the title. For example if you see UVDMD5, or just MD5 in the title, it is based on the latest official release. Anything older is buried by now. We do have a couple of 4.3 leaked builds. UVUEMJ4 and UVUEMJC. MJC is the newest. Anyway, there is almost always a clue in the title. But if you are not sure, just open and look over the OP and screenshots.
Ill try to PM the OP of the list to see if he plans on updating it. I would not expect him to until after our next official release though, which is right around the corner. TBH, aside from a few roms, it should be pretty well up to date.
No I meant the lower left and lower right buttons on the face of the phone, the ones that light up on either side of the Home button.
OK so a custom TouchWiz ROM then may or may not contain the T-Mobile feature of Wifi Calling, since it is again a layer on top of TouchWiz? Just trying to make sure, because that is the single feature I am worried about retaining.
Thanks for the help!
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What do you mean by Face buttons ? Face recognition ?
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No I meant the lower left and lower right buttons on the face of the phone, the ones that light up on either side of the Home button.
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What is your specific question regarding those lighted buttons? Do you want to remap them to make them do something other than what is intended or do you simply want to know if they work as advertised.
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OK so a custom TouchWiz ROM then may or may not contain the T-Mobile feature of Wifi Calling, since it is again a layer on top of TouchWiz? Just trying to make sure, because that is the single feature I am worried about retaining.
Thanks for the help!
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Think of TWiz along the same lines as your KF. The Kindle (and Nook for that matter) uses Android as its base. Then it is skinned with features that Amazon (or B&N) think that you would like, overlay their own launchers, custom applications, locked bootloader ... Touchwiz is the very same thing. It is Samsung's version of what you have on your KF. An Android base with manufacturer's preferential skin and extra "goodies". Sense (HTC) and the now defunct Blur (Motorola) are other examples of this.
If you want Wifi Calling, then you should have no problem with any of the Touchwiz ROMs that are out there. Please note that Wifi Calling is not and will never be working on any AOSP ROMs.
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What I suggest is that your Root your phone, install a custom recovery, make sure that you back up your IMEI if you plan on going to and fro TWiz and AOSP. Before you flash anything, boot into your custom recovery and make a Nandroid backup of your ROM as it is right here and now. Then copy* that off your phone and put a copy on your PC. I say copy because you will want to leave one on your phone and one on your PC as a last resort backup (I still have mine from the ICS days). Then flash a ROM. Check it out for a few days. Not your cup of tea? Flash another. If something goes horribly wrong or you don't like some of the features of X ROM, then just restore your Nandroid that you made and you are right back where you started.
Yes I just noticed that the S3 had these buttons and many other phones do not. Therefore there is probably a TouchWiz requirement to get these buttons to work as advertised. The question is sort of moot now anyway - as I want a TouchWiz ROM.
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What is your specific question regarding those lighted buttons? Do you want to remap them to make them do something other than what is intended or do you simply want to know if they work as advertised.
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squiddog said:
Yes I just noticed that the S3 had these buttons and many other phones do not. Therefore there is probably a TouchWiz requirement to get these buttons to work as advertised. The question is sort of moot now anyway - as I want a TouchWiz ROM.
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Yes I am aware you have decided to stick with Touchwiz roms. Just so you know, these two buttons work just fine in AOSP as well. In fact, on AOSP you have an option of assigning additional actions to Long Pressing of these two.
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Just for fun.
Do you have a custom or stock ROM on your Galaxy Nexus?
Custom .switching between euroskanks cm9 and aokp the whole time
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Running AOKP M5, gives more option of customizing.
Stock ROM is fine too, if you don't need to customize.
Custom ofcourse. Now liquid linaro 1.5rc2, tomorrow maybe something else.
Custom of course.
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Custom!!!
Stock is good. But once you try the custom ROM... you don't want ever go back to stock. Really. You will miss so many handy stuff in stock ROM which is pretty standard in all custom ROMs. For instance:
- Long press back button kills the app.
- Or toggles in notification area
etc.
Currently:
Slim ICS ROM.
CM9 is OK. But it's not Slim ICS
AOKP is very similar to Slim (almost the same). But not as stable and slim as Slim ICS
So.. Slim ICS is the only option for me. All the other ROMs.. well.. good luck with all the other
Idk even why Google make stock so slow and I hated the gradient effect. Google should hire these custom rom devs. They really have skills and talents. After using custom I can't go to that slow, laggy stock rom....
Loving the rascream + trinity 65 stable and cid boot animation
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It's funny that all the comments so far say custom roms, yet the poll result says otherwise. My guess is that people using stock rom have absolutely no problem with it and feel no need to "brag" about how good/stable their rom is
Edit: Yes, I voted stock rom.
Im always rooted and ROMed within the hour of getting my phone. So custom.
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Right now running custom (CM9) but would have no issue's with just using Stock rooted. Google does a good job putting out stable code that works well. I just like having a couple extra features that CM9 adds.
A kernel is a must though, although stock ROM is good the kernel they push out is obviously not very well optimized.
My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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This has been my school of thought with the Galaxy Nexus, as well. I did unlock the bootloader straight away, just in case I wanted to try custom ROMs and go back to stock. I haven't had that itch yet though.
I'm not in anyway knocking custom ROMs (I've happily used them on every previous device), I do feel though they are the "scenic route" for this particular phone.
Ran stock + root for the first few months until curiosity got the better of me and I installed CM9 a few days ago. Mostly all good so far apart from a problem with Google Music stuttering occasionally (accompanied by a nice screeching sound ) for no apparent reason.
Thinking of trying Slim ICS next, or I might stick with CM9 depending on how much the stuttering problem annoys me.
I use the stock ROM. I personally don't use many of the customization in other ROMs. And for aesthetics, I don't need UI customizations -- I don't really care how the UI looks. (I was fine with Froyo's UI )
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
Stock ROMs are slow and sometimes unresponsive. That is inevitable even for the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs are far more tweaked and optimized. Custom ROMs, though, are not necessarily better, since what's best is user-defined. We all have our needs and as long as we're satisfied with what we have, we do just fine.
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Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
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Quick boot? That sounds like an app that only reboots/reloads the system and not the kernel, correct? (i.e. full boot) What market enabler app works perfectly for ICS?
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As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
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+1
Besides, on a phone like the Galaxy Nexus, relocking it is dead easy.
I use BAMF paradigm. Its awesome. No other rom is as stable. Also love the quick settings.
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Using Black Ice... started with LiquidSmooth and really liked it (love having profiles so that I can set a "Night" mode in which only my phone will ring and everything else is customized to either just vibrate or just notify by the LED). I then went to AOKP and tried Gummy briefly but neither had profiles. Found Black Ice which is a modified AOKP and havent looked back since. Aside from the nice White on Black scheme it has profiles and has the option for the weather in the notification page.
Chaotic Peace said:
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Was running it on my razor. How is the performance compared to cm9, aokp, gummy?
I can't live without my AOKP!
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I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
seanvree said:
I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
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AOSP is the code that gets pushed out directly from google and CM bases its work on this. Companies like Samsung and HTC build upon this code to create their own modifications which can vary greatly in apperance and features. Wicked is based on the Samsung firmware. This means you get many of the galaxy s3's exclusive features such as motion controls, smart stay etc. The apps are also themed to make the whole OS feel more integrated. The contact app, music app, dialer etc all share a certain consistency that, IMO is more polished.
CM on the other hand, brings a whole bunch of modifications and features that give you more control over your device. I cant really go through them here but if you do decide to go with CM, I advise you to spend a good 30-60 minutes going through each menu in the settings to get a good idea of whats available. Also, being based of AOSP, CM removes a lot of the bloatware that comes with the S3 giving you a less cluttered OS.
My recommendation: Do a backup of your current Wicked Rom in your recovery. I also recommend getting Titanium Backup to backup your apps and data. There's a free version available but the Pro version has much more extensive features namely that it can restore all your apps without you having to confirm each app. Both AOSP Roms and Samsung Roms I feel target different audiences so its up to you to decide which one best appeals to your usage
I came from sonic rom, and have been following the nightlies for bout 2 weeks. Obviously the biggest difference is jelly bean vs ICS.
Which when it comes down to it, isn't that big of a difference lol.
differences worthy of note for me:
1. Google now (which i guess is included in wicked too)
2. smoother faster
3. CM 10 does have a screen flicker rarely, but lately it seems to be all but gone.
4. quick sms reply in the notification (great!)
5. two finger swype down on emails and sms in notification to show more info
6. unlock screen much better than origional, choose apps to include in the lock screen
7. wifi hot spot actually works
8. browser seems better
9. volume rocker to skip songs while screen is off (love it)
10. sweet loving support of the CM staff (priceless)
11. raw google goodness
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nicky is right, but NOT having all of samsungs proprietary features that come in touchwiz is in my opinion a huge plus.
smartstay, svoice, motion controls, and PIP are all very much meant for the tmobile storeroom, its a "hey look at what this does..." where as you continue to use you notice smartstay works about half the time, the motion controls are mostly unessary (when did the android phone turn into a wii remote, whats with all this moving lol), and the svoice is abhorent.
Google made their fortune off of software and apps, samsung has hardware down great.
But i'm typing this one of their laptops, same thing applies. The hardware and internals are great, but their little apps they add to windows were retarded and i did a clean reformat.
samsung device + pure google software = a wonderous thing
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
i been using this rom sense it came out, and it is the most stable rom out of the cm10's and aokp's roms that i have tried, havnt had one single problem with it, everythign works great on this too:good:
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Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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Firstly, don't flash M1. Flash the newest one. Second, you can update without wiping, yes.
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Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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What do you mean by wipe. Everyone has there degree of "cleanliness", But I just wiped calvin wiped cash before every cm 10 nightly update. HOWEVER, if your going to cm for the first time or leaving cm, definately do a factory reset. Some guys do a factory reset every time, i found it was alright without it.
I've searched, trawled and read through so many threads and cannot make my mind up which way to turn (I'm so indecisive). There is so much choice (which is a good thing in some ways and not so good in others) but it's confused the hell out of me. I could flash various ROM's and kernels all the while having to restore my data each time and run it for a while to see if it is suitable for my needs. This seems to the moderators general consensus for those asking what the 'best ROM' is (Understandable). But this (having to flash ROM's and kernels each time) is tedious and there is always some element of risk that you could end up with a bad flash the more you do this.
So here I am asking. Please note I am *NOT* asking which the best overall ROM is. I understand perfectly well that there is no best ROM and each ROM has different functionality and features that are suited to different peoples needs. I am asking which ROM suits *MY* needs. If moderators decide that I am asking what is the best ROM then I guess I will have to try harder to argue my case.
I don't mind if it's GB, ICS or JB - obviously I would *LOVE* to have a JB ROM but it's still in its infancy and has certain issues simply because there is and never will be an official JB ROM for my phone (Thanks Sony!).
My current setup is a 2011 Arc S currently running JJ Hybrid 3.1 (still) and ArcKnight kernel (forget which build).
I am not overly interested in fancy GUI's, themes, extra functionality or overclocking, although it would nice to have them 'just so long as they don't impact on performance and stability'.
Things I want.
#Rooted with CWM is a given obviously
#As lag free as possible (It takes several seconds to launch Contacts at present and laggy key presses in the phone dialer annoy)
#Good battery performance
#Increased memory
#Bloatware removed
#Removal of or fixed/tweaked default apps (For some reason the default browser sucks CPU/battery dry and I have disabled it on current ROM).
#Smooth 720p video (is this even possible either in the FW or through a mod?)
#Good camera performance (Use a mod?)
#Status bar with quick toggles and notifications
#Good WIFI, 2G,3G/HSDPA performance (especially if 3G is tweaked as I get poor signal in some places)
#Bravia engine (1 or 2?)
#Correctly functioning hardware including LED's/Side LED/Buttons/Sensors (brightness, rotation etc)
#STABILITY (as little bugs as possible basically)
#Easy upgrade path between builds (not having to wipe data each time although I realize this is sometimes required)
#WIFI tethering
I don't care much for HDMI output but if it works it's a bonus. Things like USB OTG and USB mass storage would also be useful but not essential.
I think that's all of it. If moderators still feel this is a 'best ROM' thread feel free to contact me privately to cast your warnings. Hopefully though they will see this is a bit more specific than that and actually asks more pertinent questions rather than a blanket 'which ROM is best' question.
Thanks for reading
I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing
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I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing
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Thanks. I will look into it. Seems it's only for ICS ROM's but if there is an ICS ROM that meets the above criteria I will check it out.
For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here
Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
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For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here
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How is video recording and playback and the camera?
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Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
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How is video recording and playback and the camera?
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Did u read that? Flash and test yourself
We can't say, what fits you, we don't know your life. You know it the best, you should find the perfect one.
XDA is not a place, where people are slaves, stop being lazy and do something yourself aswell.
Look at ROM's overviews, features, functions, read comments (if you want to know more about the ROM) etc.
Try them, put them to the test in regular usage. Then you find one. We can't say, which one is good for you.
yeah he is right!
Atomic Gb is awesome !
xtremesilencer has done some great work to make it!
ohhh wait a min!
i am xtremesilencer that was a joke
and if you want to know about a rom then go to the thread or check the feedback
dont open new new threads !!!!!
I'm on ICS because of the mobile data manager (built in, doesn't work on gb) as i have a limited data plan.
I'm right now on the xperia t rom, it is really great, the battery lasts up to two days. (3-4 hours display on, around 10h mobile data and wifi is always on).
Using the stock 587 kernel. Never had such an amazing battery life
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Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.
deadman3000 said:
Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.
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Unfortunately, that's what most people would have to go through to actually find a rom that they would stick with. Luckily I tried 1 and never moved away because it was suffice. Here's a list to shorten the task, tremendously for you
Ultimate HD
Beautiful ICS
Jelly Sandwich - I've been using this one for months without changing. I'd recommend version 7.4 as it's stable and anything version 8 and above are a hassle to install and have ugly icons =/
Atomic GB - The only gingerbread based rom listed as opposed to ics so bear in mind the cybershot wouldn't work
I can't really comment on any of these roms' 'personal sufficiency' other than jelly sandwich, but these are the ones I would test if I were you good luck
well XDA is a dev site where devs share their creations for each other, they're not obliged to put them up here and frankly it takes a billion times more work to make a rom than to look through the ROM threads
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Xperia T ROM is the way to go!
I too was in the same state 3-4 months back and all I wanted was a stable & smooth ROM (better than stock, of course). So, I went thro most of the threads and based on the feedback of many, I narrowed down on Ultimate HD. Sure its a better ROM and I was happy using it for close to 2 months. But after prolonged usage, it started to lag. Only then, I started experimenting with multiple ROMs.
There are ROM u would start hating it immediately after installing it and there are which will make u to stick with it for a while. After testing bunch of ROMs, I finally landed on Xperia T ROM. Its not the most talked about ROM around, but definitely has its own fan following and Im definitely going to be one among them. It has all the MODs that I wanted (toggles, latest apps, cybershot, small apps etc...) and yet it offered smoothness and free RAM of close to 100 MB. Most importantly, it offered loads of options while installing (in Aroma Installer). So, you can pick and choose whatever u want. It is one of the few ROMs wherein Sound Enhancements in Walkman player and Online mode in Album works out of the box without any tweaking!
So, I suggest you to give it a shot. Im sure u wont regret it
Hmm. Just read that T ROM has broken wifi tethering. Also read that AOSP ROM's don't have in call mute? It's quite a bit involved installing that ROM by the look of things too. I will monitor the thread for a while though and ask about the in call mute feature.
Sometimes, it's not about the ROM, it's the mods you flash on the ROM. I have been using stock ROM for quite some time and I have flashed a few mods to tweak and improve the stock ROM. You can go to the Themes and Apps section to find these kind of mods.
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AW: [Q] Which ROM offers the following?
Use the stock rom and flash mods you want..
Your mixing everyrthing up, battery and performance, perfect stability and design....
Hello, I am loving my Note 2, and I've had it for about a month now. The problem is, I don't like all the changes samsung has made in the stock rom for the phone... And all the pesky bloatware.
The last phone I had was the legendary HTC HD2. (I will never forget it!) I was always up to date with the newest Android version on a phone from the stone age. (Shout out to Tytung and all his amazing work for the HD2!)
So basically I am pretty used to the xda-forums, flashing and having my phone to be exactly how I want it to be. However, I am facing a problem with my picky-ness.
I am looking for a rom with the newest Android version 4.2, because I like the way google meant for the android to be, and I would LOVE it if there were a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2. I have found a few of those, but the problem is that I have felt in love with Samsung's S Note-app and the ability to "split screen" (and also a couple of those fancy features, but they are not important). Which leads me to my question:
(tl;dr)
Does it exist a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2, which either has the S Note-app and the "split-screen"function included or has an alternative way to implement the app and function into the rom?
Would be a bonus if all the S-pen features were included too, but I guess that would be much to ask.
Thank you for any attention!
Yes same here...I only managed to find a custom stock rom which looks and feels like aosp with the option to remove bloatwares and just leave the spen features.
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An alternative option could be to make a flashable zip with all the S Pen apps and features, which would make it easier for everyone. Then my problem would have been solved. A zip that works with most of the roms, you know.
It would also have been easier for developers, as you could leave it as an open choice whether to implement the S Pen apps/features in the rom or not.
I hope someone could answer me whether this is possible or not. Or maybe tell me the chances of it being done. I am no developer myself, but I think this could be a great idea!!
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Hello all,
I may get teased a little bit for this one - but I am a bit of a traditionalist. Even as an IT guy, I tend to shy away from custom, enhanced or otherwise modified ISOs of windows. Not because I am afraid of them... I just like the "stock" look. I would like to stick to the same thing on my phone.
I am still running the stock version of my ATT firmware, 4.x.x. I like it just fine, and it suits my needs for the most part - (Other than the ATT bloatware that crashes constantly for several minutes upon reboot)
However, my device is beginning to slow down and I find myself using Chrome more and more because the older stock browser does not seem to want to render some sites very well. I expect it is only a matter of time before I start running into "sorry, you cannot run this app" type of issues.
So on to my questions....
1. Will upgrading to 6.x or 7.x improve the performance on my device?
2. If so, I see there are a ton of apps to choose from. Is there one specifically that is "less modified" or at least enables some sort of "gotta-have-it" functionality?
3. Can you elaborate on why you chose to move from the stock rom? I understand there are alot of "testers" on this forum who like to play with things. However, my phone is used heavily for work purposes. Simplicity and Stability remain key drivers for me.
Changing to a custom ROM may improve some areas of performance while decreasing in others such as battery life, camera, and stability.
By apps, I assume you mean roms. I can't make any recommendations as I have not had a note 2 for a few years but I have found that custom ROMs based off a stock rom are pretty stable. I always like to start with a very bare-bones ROM and add functionality via apps as needed.
I have moved to custom ROMs in the past when apps won't run on the phone's stock rom.
I've run my note 2 on DN3 for a number of years. You can still find a link to the thread in this forum and you will need to root your n2.
Not hard. 1 advantage is you can remove the bloat and it's still a rom that runs well on our device since it was built for our device in it's prime.
If you have any questions send a PM. Happy to help.
wisem2540 said:
Hello all,
I may get teased a little bit for this one - but I am a bit of a traditionalist. Even as an IT guy, I tend to shy away from custom, enhanced or otherwise modified ISOs of windows. Not because I am afraid of them... I just like the "stock" look. I would like to stick to the same thing on my phone.
I am still running the stock version of my ATT firmware, 4.x.x. I like it just fine, and it suits my needs for the most part - (Other than the ATT bloatware that crashes constantly for several minutes upon reboot)
However, my device is beginning to slow down and I find myself using Chrome more and more because the older stock browser does not seem to want to render some sites very well. I expect it is only a matter of time before I start running into "sorry, you cannot run this app" type of issues.
So on to my questions....
1. Will upgrading to 6.x or 7.x improve the performance on my device?
2. If so, I see there are a ton of apps to choose from. Is there one specifically that is "less modified" or at least enables some sort of "gotta-have-it" functionality?
3. Can you elaborate on why you chose to move from the stock rom? I understand there are alot of "testers" on this forum who like to play with things. However, my phone is used heavily for work purposes. Simplicity and Stability remain key drivers for me.
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