Develop Bugs

Video output options

As most people have probably already heard, the "MHL" port on the SGS3 isn't compatible with existing MHL accessories or displays (so it isn't really an MHL port then is it). See this site for more on that.
Sammie has released some over-priced accessories for it, but buying those would reward and re-inforce this move (the only nasty thing the've done on an otherwise brilliant phone) and they would probably become landfill when you get your next phone. Besides, Sammie recently indicated that this port can do more, so I guess that means they will release a second round of video accessories for this phone, making the first round landfill even before you move on to your next phone.
So, if someone really needs video output for their SGS3, what are their options?
Samsung makes a wireless (Wi-Fi) streaming video dongle for the GSIII, but this too appears to be proprietary and possibly just for the GS3. It looks like there are standards coming for wireless streaming, but they aren't here yet (e.g. Miracast).
Are there other wireless video streaming devices that work with the SGS3?
Even better, though, has any other company created accessories that are compatible with the fake MHL port on the SGS3? The best would be something that worked with the SGS3 and with standards compliant MHL devices and displays (of which there are now > 100), but I don't know if that is possible.
Actually, for some users, something a bit different might work...
DLNA for example, which allows you to play content from your phone on any smart TV. It's not the same as 'video out' for your phone, but I think some poeple are just looking for a way to get media from their phone to their display. And DLNA is very widely supported standard now.
Also, these are low cost Android 4 devices in the form of an HDMI dongle - you plug them directly into your TV:
Infinitec Pocket TV
The Kogan Smart TV HDMI dongle

:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB org, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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First problem is that would mean you need an adapter for an adapter, which is a cumbersome solution.
More importantly, I believe that what you are saying is not true: I have reviewed the info from Samsung so far and it appears to me that the new adapter adapter does not support any of the additional capabilities (USB org) that Samsung has recently suggested that the 11pin port is capable of.
That means that there will be new accessories soon to enable that capability, so you will have 3 accessories for that one port, just to do one thing.

No cheap and trustworthy ebay alternatives yet??
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Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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fylim said:
Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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It should be noted that this solution requires that your Android be rooted. Here's the product page for the Android version of mirrorOp.
http://www.mirrorop.com/product_Android_Sender.html

firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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Has it been confirmed that OTG works together with the new MHL adapter? AndroidNZ couldn't get it to work in one of his video reviews

I couldn't get it to work.
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It's possible that .gs3 can play full hd movies over Mhl port or resolution will by like phone screen ?
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Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/

fylim said:
Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/
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Apparently that is an implementation of the Wi-Fi alliances Miracast standard, which sounds great, but for now (i.e. until Android ships with it) it requires root access.

I have bought a few products and have been successful at hooking my note 2 up to a tv with excellent results. I want to also hook up usb hub. I have had SO much bad luck even trying to find out a solution. It seems something is wrong here... oh I see now since I read all of galaxymhl.com. If there was any chance of me paying for the Samsung dock its NOT going to happen now. Dont ever mess with a standard!
I am ready to get out my solder gun and wire it myself...
I own this..
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...605012&sr=8-1&keywords=caBLE+MATTERS+HDMI+MHL
The micro usb is only for power only - NO DATA!!!
Also just bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FRJORK/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB does not work with the phone! So sending it back today.
I need HDMI as well as DATA simultaneously. If I missed something I am sorry. It just seems people and products are not clear about this.
If there is a site on rewiring these cables it would be awesome. Does anyone have a solution???

Tv

Quick question how do I get what's on my phone to my tv do I use the same cable I used with the 3d or do I use Bluetooth or all play ??
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Anyone have a idea on this one?
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You can use a MHL adapter but you have to use the one for the S3...the previous MHL adapters were 5 pin...and i believe the MHL our phone requires is a 13 pin...dont quote me but i think thats the numbers.

If you want to show videos or pictures from the phone to the tv you could use all share or Twonky beam. If you want to mirror what's on the phone then you probably have to buy the wireless dongle.
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What about mirror could I use my old mhl one from my 3d or do I need to buy a new one?
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Post #3 you have to use a new one OR get an adapter for your old one.
the new phone is 11pin I believe so the old mhl will work "directly"

nerys71 said:
Post #3 you have to use a new one OR get an adapter for your old one.
the new phone is 11pin I believe so the old mhl will work "directly"
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Do you have a link where I can get this new one?
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this is the one I bought. I have not tested it yet (have not got it in the mail yet)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290782227679

nerys71 said:
this is the one I bought. I have not tested it yet (have not got it in the mail yet)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290782227679
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Do you see that same cable here?
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Catalog/ProductSearch/?keyword=MHL Micro USB 11pin to HDMI HD
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The most simple solution in my opinion is go to best buy and buy a blue tooth tv adapter. All you would have to do is set it up and then connect via wifi from your phone.

ReapersDeath said:
The most simple solution in my opinion is go to best buy and buy a blue tooth tv adapter. All you would have to do is set it up and then connect via wifi from your phone.
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I rather have the cable that way I can use it at friend's houses ect. ...
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SlimPort adapters

Anybody have one or planning on getting one? I'm kinda bummed I'll have to get another one (already have MHL) dumb competing standards. The few available on Amazon seem overpriced (in the $30 range) for a chunk of plastic and some wire.

Buy the one from analogix. That is the official one and it does cost $30. It is pricy when compared to regular MHL adaptors, but its worth it if you plan on using it.
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I can confirm that the slimport in the link below works perfectly with the new nexus 7, including 1080p video and audio output http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1...4962024&sr=8-1&keywords=slimport+hdmi+adapter

Won't a chromecast work? And only 5 more dollars. Sorry if I'm wrong. Its happened many times lol.
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moz90 said:
Won't a chromecast work? And only 5 more dollars. Sorry if I'm wrong. Its happened many times lol.
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What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this

Nuckin said:
What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this
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I can use this to play my droid games on the tv screen then?

LauraSakura said:
I can use this to play my droid games on the tv screen then?
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Absolutely. I use slim port with a ps3 controller and six axis app to do just that.
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Nuckin said:
What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this
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So will you be able to use chromecast at some point for everything?
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moz90 said:
So will you be able to use chromecast at some point for everything?
Sent from my nexus 7 2nd gen
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Probably not but I suspect playing local content from your phone will but added soon but that's just a guess, games prob not due to lag and graphical limitations

i debate turning back to wires like this when i do enjoy what my chromecast does while also having hopes for the wireless display option to be 1:1 for all functions

I didn't even notice the port was not MHL. What nincompoop opted to go with this rather than MHL? Maybe I don't know something I should here, but hasn't MHL been around for a couple years now? And is there anything allegedly superior about slimport that would make it desirable over MHL?
This is just a little disappointing to me because both of my Samsung phones use MHL and at this point my backpack is already the subject of Guantanamo style field stripping every time I fly international.

earlymorninghours said:
I didn't even notice the port was not MHL. What nincompoop opted to go with this rather than MHL? Maybe I don't know something I should here, but hasn't MHL been around for a couple years now? And is there anything allegedly superior about slimport that would make it desirable over MHL?
This is just a little disappointing to me because both of my Samsung phones use MHL and at this point my backpack is already the subject of Guantanamo style field stripping every time I fly international.
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Since its Nexus line, Google would follow what they did with the N4. Why don't you just check it?

MyDP (SlimPort) adapters are appearing on eBay for less than $20USD which I think is pretty good value. SlimPort has some clear advantages over MHL (scaling/no need to have charger plugged in etc).
Examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a834e9746
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ca7a1de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MYDP-SlimPo...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd3ea9ea3

ritzxda said:
MyDP (SlimPort) adapters are appearing on eBay for less than $20USD which I think is pretty good value. SlimPort has some clear advantages over MHL (scaling/no need to have charger plugged in etc).
Examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a834e9746
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ca7a1de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MYDP-SlimPo...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd3ea9ea3
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Thats because they are shipping direct from China....

Oleschuldad said:
Thats because they are shipping direct from China....
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Yes and? Sorry not being rude but don't see the point. I just thought I'd let people know they can get them shipped world wide for a pretty good price now. Not all of us live in America. Thanks.

ritzxda said:
Yes and? Sorry not being rude but don't see the point. I just thought I'd let people know they can get them shipped world wide for a pretty good price now. Not all of us live in America. Thanks.
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not busting on you...just clarifying why they are so cheap... kinda like buying from Meritline... cheap prices, just have to wait awhile cuz its shipping from China is all...

Oleschuldad said:
not busting on you...just clarifying why they are so cheap... kinda like buying from Meritline... cheap prices, just have to wait awhile cuz its shipping from China is all...
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Haha no worries. That's true. It will take a long time to arrive. They've just been really hard to get even through Asia so just thought I'd let people know since I came across them. Thanks.

I'm looking for one too. Even the one on ebay cost around $20 from china. Not counting waiting for over a month for it. Bought more than a few items from china, and only about 50% of them ever work.

Just be careful with the non analogical brand slimport adaptors. People from the N4 were having problems with certain ones. You can check in the N4 accessories thread as there is more information about them there.
I can confirm that the official one works perfect.
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Got the 30$ analogix one and tried it out last night.. works great on the new N7!

[Q] Video out

Does the nexus 7 have video out? I am coming from Ipad 2 and that is one feature I need in a tablet.
I don't mind buy an extra cable. Already did that with the ipad. I have a dumb lcd tv, so no help there.

Timisone said:
Does the nexus 7 have video out? I am coming from Ipad 2 and that is one feature I need in a tablet.
I don't mind buy an extra cable. Already did that with the ipad. I have a dumb lcd tv, so no help there.
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The nexus 7 (2013 model) is compatible with slimport which stream over hdmi.
Here's a link to the cable:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0WKREA67BVHJG6GWAYZA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846
Hope it helps!

zaclimon said:
The nexus 7 (2013 model) is compatible with slimport which stream over hdmi.
Here's a link to the cable:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0WKREA67BVHJG6GWAYZA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846
Hope it helps!
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Is there any system setting that needs to be applied? I tried the cable you linked us to and the tv acts as if no imput is being piped in.
Thanks in advance,
Charlie

callif said:
Is there any system setting that needs to be applied? I tried the cable you linked us to and the tv acts as if no imput is being piped in.
Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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There's no system setting that is supposed to be applied while plugging the cable. It should show up into the tv. How much time you've waited for it to come?

SlimPort adapter

Anyone find a cheap SlimPort adapter to get HDMI out to a TV?
I've been looking and was hoping they'd come down in price by now...

I know Amazon sells others, but the one from Analogix is the official one from what I understand, and it encounters the least issues. Further, they guarantee compatibility with all Nexus devices, as well as LG devices, and one of the Chromebooks. I personally use the SlimPort by Analogix (SP1002) for my N4, and it works very well. There is a new model out now (SP1003), which came out in July, which replaced the older model. From what I understand, it allows for better charging capabilities.

txsizzler said:
I know Amazon sells others, but the one from Analogix is the official one from what I understand, and it encounters the least issues. Further, they guarantee compatibility with all Nexus devices, as well as LG devices, and one of the Chromebooks. I personally use the SlimPort by Analogix (SP1002) for my N4, and it works very well. There is a new model out now (SP1003), which came out in July, which replaced the older model. From what I understand, it allows for better charging capabilities.
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Sounds good, was just hoping to find it for less than $40...

orangekid said:
Sounds good, was just hoping to find it for less than $40...
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I sell mine for 30$ because I'm not using it..

UgoBoss said:
I sell mine for 30$ because I'm not using it..
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Buy adapter, imagine the possibilities! Day one: I can now watch Netflix on my TV via my phone! I can share photos from my phone on my TV!
Day two: Quickly realize I have no need or reason to do that again
Week two: Sell adapter
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^^ This is how I imagine it would go if I bought one as well.

willshep said:
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Buy adapter, imagine the possibilities! Day one: I can now watch Netflix on my TV via my phone! I can share photos from my phone on my TV!
Day two: Quickly realize I have no need or reason to do that again
Week two: Sell adapter
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^^ This is how I imagine it would go if I bought one as well.
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This is totally it !

orangekid said:
Sounds good, was just hoping to find it for less than $40...
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I was tempted by some of the less expensive Slimport adapters on Amazon, but eventually decided to go with the Analogix (SP1003-2116). It is just under $30 and if you are a Amazon Prime member free two day shipping. It seemed to get much better reviews than the other Slimport adapters. Mine came in the mail today along with a wireless charger. Hopefully my N5 arrives Monday so they can play.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DWGB6CU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

willshep said:
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Buy adapter, imagine the possibilities! Day one: I can now watch Netflix on my TV via my phone! I can share photos from my phone on my TV!
Day two: Quickly realize I have no need or reason to do that again
Week two: Sell adapter
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^^ This is how I imagine it would go if I bought one as well.
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Chromecast is way more convenient for Netflix.
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