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Hi there all, I hope a I can get a little help from my friends !
I have rooted my Desire and am currently running Teppic's Rom, I have tried a few others, but the thing that gets me in having to reload, and set up the phone each time.
COuld somebody please explain if I am missing something, I have used ROm mananger, but when i load a new Rom, my old back ups have gone, what is the best/easiest way to reload all my settings and apps in one go onto the new Rom.
Thanks in advance.

melhookv12 said:
Hi there all, I hope a I can get a little help from my friends !
I have rooted my Desire and am currently running Teppic's Rom, I have tried a few others, but the thing that gets me in having to reload, and set up the phone each time.
COuld somebody please explain if I am missing something, I have used ROm mananger, but when i load a new Rom, my old back ups have gone, what is the best/easiest way to reload all my settings and apps in one go onto the new Rom.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally I use Titanium backup from the market. It will restore your apps and data for you.
Using rom manager to create a backup won't really work for you, because if you flash a new rom then use rom manager to restore, you are actually restoring your old rom too!

So if i use Titianium back up ( which I have already installed ), after I flash a new ROM, where was all my data backed upto ? The SD card ? and do I just re-install Titianium back up and re-load my data from there. My contacts are synced through G-mail which is easy. I have appbrain installed, soi thats fairly quick, its just all the other bits and pieces, like the Scenes, ring tones, etc.
I would like to try another ROM, but dont really have a spare half hour to reload it all every time.

Root issues HTC Desire

Hi all, hope this is in the right section.
I rooted my Desire last night using unRevoked 3.3 with the intention of removing all the bloatware on my phone and forcing most of the apps onto the sd card.
My phone seems to have rooted fine, i have the Superuser Permissions application on there, and Titanium backup pro seems to be working too.
Now when i use Titanium backup to try and remove programs such as Stocks, News and Weather, News etc... I click on the app in the list, click un-install and then it tells me its uninstalled. However the apps still appear in my menu and are still there following a reboot. Ive also tried another method using Super Manager and that doesent seem to work either. The apps are still there following them being 'uninstalled'.
Also, similar situation with the SD card, i downloaded Move2SD enabler and that doesent seem to let me move certain apps like Maps, Facebook and others.
Any idea where im going wrong? Im on stock 2.2. My phone is in debug usb mode too.
Any help would be great.
Cheers

The apps you want to remove/move are system apps in stock roms. So you cannot do such things, because you are not s-off. But you might be able to do the things you want with adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
How to install adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK

Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.

k3lcior said:
Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
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He did not flash a rom. He is just using stock rom. There is nothing to delete from a zip file, because there is no zip file he wants to flash.

Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.

k3lcior said:
Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
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Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
To remove system apps in running system with an app, you have to be s-off.

MatDrOiD said:
Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
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I guess you know better than him, fine.

k3lcior said:
I guess you know better than him, fine.
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It was just a clue, had nothing to do with knowledge.
Nevertheless, we should stop filling this thread with our senseless discussion.

haha thanks for the responses guys!
ive been looking at all the custom roms and whilst most of them look pretty cool, im quite happy with whats already on there at the moment, im just bored of seeing my phone telling me i dont have enough internal space etc... so i wanted to root and move as many apps onto the sd card as possible and delete all the unwanted stuff that im constantly closing in taskiller.
i did read something about putting the phone into s-off mode, i guess this is the way to go in regards to deleting the unwanted system apps?
also i believe that i cannot move facebook or google maps onto the sd card, am i correct?

Best option is flashing custom ROM, you could remove any apps you want from the flashable .zip file, and give you an unlimited storage for apps - A2SD. (well limited by SD Card capacity)
You can also S-OFF and remove apps you dont want, but it will barely help as you will probably still run with "low internal storage" errors at some point.
Also with stock ROM you are running, most apps wont be able to move onto SD anyways.
There are custom rom's based on Froyo 2.2 if you like it.

i guess i will look into flashing a ROM. i didnt really want to do that as i didnt want to have to reinstall everything etc... but i guess its the only way i will be satisifed lol.

Just make backup with Titanium Backup and then restore it.

[Q] Advice/Help on removing "locked" or un-uninstallable apps that I do not want

[Q] Advice/Help on removing "locked" or un-uninstallable apps that I do not want
Ok, so.... Flashed CM 10.1. Did not like it at all. I have always been happy with the stock rom and realized through this process that what I really wanted was a stock ROM that I could remove all the nonsense that is imbedded and that runs and drains my battery life. I want to have complete control over my OS.
So, my main question is: Having read differing opinions on how to remove the so called bloatware(I like some of the stuff that is built in), what is the best way to go about it?
I obviously can root and flash my phone and can install CWM and have Odin installed and have done all that stuff. What I am looking for is a complete solution/method to removing the apps that I do not want. A lot of times the so called bloatware free ROMS have taken out too much and do not have what I am looking for so I am almost looking to create a custom stock ROM in a way by being able to delete the stuff that I do not use at all.

Do you use Titanium Backup?

jasvncnt1 said:
Do you use Titanium Backup?
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This.
You can flash the bloated version of your carrier's rom, get root and use Titanium Backup to either uninstall or freeze (paid version) the apps you don't want.

Thanks! Done. Exactly what I needed.
Had already reverted back to the bloated version with something like this in mind and actually paid for the pro version. I think this is the first time I've ever paid for an app.
Now to make a list of all the things running that I don't need/use and uninstall them.

Battery drain? Need insight.

I have a Galaxy S4, had its for a good while now, i guess half a year or so? Maybe getting close to a year, hell as I know rofl, time flies by fast. I started seeing my phone dieing super fast even when I'm not using it(idle). I see System manager application(carrier iq) x462 wakelocks, and others listed below in pics. I also had Outlook app which also had tons of wakelocks(uninstalled it). How should i fix this problem, I'm lucky to get enough battery for a day's worth. If i start using phone data to music, browse the web, or do daily tasks that shouldn't impact on the battery much still drain the battery pretty quickly.
I'm still on 4.2.2, mdl bootloader, using nh7 modem, rooted. Tried using apps like battery doctor, clean master to clean residue, DU battery saver, etc. I'm not sure if they even help, as it will show a list of apps running, u hit to kill them, and it "kills them", and after 5mins if you open again, it shows that u need to close them again. Should i just update to lollipop? Would that fix anything, anything else i should do? Or is this normal? I saw other people on this forum somehow getting 3-7days of standby time?
Also when using gps, phone gets really hot, and using data to browse, etc also makes the phone pretty hot, I'm using a case, maybe that's the culprit of it?
Any tips/info would help. Thanks.

Your phone is overloaded with crap apps, your firmware is outdated and you need to debloat your phone with Romtoolbox.
Those battery apps should only be used to troubleshoot and uninstall, lookout is a system heavy app that uses too many resources, clean sweep is another app you don't need.
Use Zoner Antivirus if you think you need that service, all that Tmobile junk apps you need to remove using Romtoolbox.
Cpu Spy is a simple app to keep track of your phone as far as sleep is concerned.
Flashing the latest firmware will also help being that apps are being optimized for the latest kitkat and lollipop.
You have work to do.
Pp.

PanchoPlanet said:
Your phone is overloaded with crap apps, your firmware is outdated and you need to debloat your phone with Romtoolbox.
Those battery apps should only be used to troubleshoot and uninstall, lookout is a system heavy app that uses too many resources, clean sweep is another app you don't need.
Use Zoner Antivirus if you think you need that service, all that Tmobile junk apps you need to remove using Romtoolbox.
Cpu Spy is a simple app to keep track of your phone as far as sleep is concerned.
Flashing the latest firmware will also help being that apps are being optimized for the latest kitkat and lollipop.
You have work to do.
Pp.
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Haha yeah, I got work to do. Which firmware version should i go for that is stable atm? Heard 5.01 is full of bugs and i don't want to deal with that atm rofl. Just need my phone to eat less juice, have lightweight performance, smooth, etc. Hoping updating firmware will remove overheating, battery drain, etc.
I saw that 5.01 removed some little features like, when you hold the power button, you could mute/vibrate/sound without unlocking your phone, and some other lil features that were helpful.
Also, is there a list somewhere that lists all the bloatware apps that you should remove from you device that comes with the firmware, from t-mobile, etc.
Was also wondering if there was a handy app that had turn on/off data, flashlight, and other things all in one and lightweight app. Thanks.

First things first, I would install stock firmware first and run phone for a couple of days to make sure all problems are resolved and that everything works.
Then you can figure out what rom you want, custom or stock.
Stay away from 5.0 lollipop for now it's super buggy.
Some of the features you mentioned can be had with Xposed frameworks, many apps to choose from.
Pp.

PanchoPlanet said:
First things first, I would install stock firmware first and run phone for a couple of days to make sure all problems are resolved and that everything works.
Then you can figure out what rom you want, custom or stock.
Stay away from 5.0 lollipop for now it's super buggy.
Some of the features you mentioned can be had with Xposed frameworks, many apps to choose from.
Pp.
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I think I am running a stock 4.2.2 rom rooted already. Since i disabled lots of bloatware apps the OTA doesnt work atm, if i enable all of them I can get OTA update from T-mobile. Should i just do OTA update to a certain version? Don't really use custom roms atm anyways, and kinda don't want to lose all my data on my phone and start over lol. Or just backup data on the phone and flash a stock rom like 4.4.2, etc, to keep the mdl bootloader for the future, eh idk.
If i missed something let me know.

Den Den said:
I think I am running a stock 4.2.2 rom rooted already. Since i disabled lots of bloatware apps the OTA doesnt work atm, if i enable all of them I can get OTA update from T-mobile. Should i just do OTA update to a certain version? Don't really use custom roms atm anyways, and kinda don't want to lose all my data on my phone and start over lol. Or just backup data on the phone and flash a stock rom like 4.4.2, etc, to keep the mdl bootloader for the future, eh idk.
If i missed something let me know.
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Sticking with 4.4.2 is not advisable due to app conflicts you can run into as developers update to lollipop certain apps may stop working or cause problems with your ability to use your phone. Best bet is to update to kitkat NK2 and be up to date.
The only way to get OTA is to do a factory reset and that will wipe the phone clean, like it just came out of the box. The safest way to restore data is to copy your internal disk onto a folder on your pc, and after the reset you can transfer back to the phone whatever data or folders you want.
You can also try flashing the update with custom recovery, this method will keep your data intact as long as your on a stock touchwiz rom, then you don't have to OTA.
Forget about MDL bootloader, it doesn't have Knox but after you update you can remove Knox.
Knox is only needed for warranty purposes and since your out of warranty don't worry about it.
ShinySide has a link in development to download the Nk2 firmware, just follow directions.
Pp.

Greenify will help your battery tremendously. Kills a lot of apps that stay loaded in the background. But be careful with certain apps, you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate them.
Facebook, and messenger are apps you should allow to run in the background, because you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate with greenify.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Sticking with 4.4.2 is not advisable due to app conflicts you can run into as developers update to lollipop certain apps may stop working or cause problems with your ability to use your phone. Best bet is to update to kitkat NK2 and be up to date.
The only way to get OTA is to do a factory reset and that will wipe the phone clean, like it just came out of the box. The safest way to restore data is to copy your internal disk onto a folder on your pc, and after the reset you can transfer back to the phone whatever data or folders you want.
You can also try flashing the update with custom recovery, this method will keep your data intact as long as your on a stock touchwiz rom, then you don't have to OTA.
Forget about MDL bootloader, it doesn't have Knox but after you update you can remove Knox.
Knox is only needed for warranty purposes and since your out of warranty don't worry about it.
ShinySide has a link in development to download the Nk2 firmware, just follow directions.
Pp.
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This is the only one i found that shiny has put up for NK2 4.4.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development/stock-base-4-4-4-nk2-rooted-deodexed-t2990478
Don't really see much directions on that page either lol, I'll prolly just do what you said, copy the internal folders/files to pc, flash the full firmware of 4.4.4 nk2. Plus I come home late from work everyday, so i might have to w8 to do this till saturday or w.e. But yeah, I don't really care about knox, only want never firmware, still be sim unlocked to all carriers, etc. Should i also make a custom recovery just in case or w.e, or doing factory reset is fine as it it if something goes wrong? Thanks.

tikay00 said:
Greenify will help your battery tremendously. Kills a lot of apps that stay loaded in the background. But be careful with certain apps, you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate them.
Facebook, and messenger are apps you should allow to run in the background, because you won't get notifications for them if you hibernate with greenify.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks, i have heard of that app, I'll keep it in mind ;p

That ShinySide link is just for a rom, that won't help you. You need complete stock firmware NK2 and that is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54155517
Download on pc and use Odin to install.
Pp.

If you are rooted on an older Android version the odds are good that you've got a Google Play Services Wakelock caused by the System Update Service.
It's a major flaw (maybe there on purpose) in the latest Google Play Services that autoupdates itself.
You can kill it. But as old as your ROM is, it's worth your time to update it anyway.

Skipjacks said:
If you are rooted on an older Android version the odds are good that you've got a Google Play Services Wakelock caused by the System Update Service.
It's a major flaw (maybe there on purpose) in the latest Google Play Services that autoupdates itself.
You can kill it. But as old as your ROM is, it's worth your time to update it anyway.
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Google services has 2,800 wakelocks, iqcarrier at 950, and android system at 660. But yeah, I'll be switching to nk2 for now till, a stable lollipop is out. Haven't had much problems on mdl, just dont like how fast battery drains, etc.

Look at my signature line. There is a link to a battery thread. It deals with those google alarms with extreme prejudice.
Click it.
Follow the instructions.
Enjoy the battery savings.

Firmware

Hello guys. One year ago i installed skydragon ROM and everything was ok. But now id like to reinstall my Rom to newer one. But i dont remember how i did it so could anyone help me? I actualy started to have some problems. My screen turns itself on randomly, pages refreshes or falls to main desktop randomly. If i use safe mode it is ok so its probably some of my applications. But i want to reinstall my phone so its like a new one(its ok with a custom rom ,i just need some recommended roms) so please if anyone could help me, i would be so happy.

FTWDiesel said:
Hello guys. One year ago i installed skydragon ROM and everything was ok. But now id like to reinstall my Rom to newer one. But i dont remember how i did it so could anyone help me? I actualy started to have some problems. My screen turns itself on randomly, pages refreshes or falls to main desktop randomly. If i use safe mode it is ok so its probably some of my applications. But i want to reinstall my phone so its like a new one(its ok with a custom rom ,i just need some recommended roms) so please if anyone could help me, i would be so happy.
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Backup all of your data, whether it be twrp or titanium
download the rom of your choice, id suggest leedroid or android revolution for you as they are close to stock
copy to phone, wipe data and flash in twrp recovery (im assuming you have it as you have skydragon installed)
then restore your data through titanium.
You may have issues if your firmware is out of date, however I have not updated mine for a long period and it is still working fine. There are plenty of threads that can direct you through the process.

Thanks alot. And what types of custom roms exist? I mean how do are they different? And i read on other forum that i have to do something with kernel? But i totaly forgot what is that

And id like to ask, if i can somehow backup my apps settings and saves from games for example?

FTWDiesel said:
Thanks alot. And what types of custom roms exist? I mean how do are they different? :
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Some ROMs are GPE (Google Play Edition) or AOSP; both mean no Sense. Others are Sense based, but with various tweaks, customization options, etc. But you need to read the ROM threads to see the differences; and how they relate to your needs and preferences.
FTWDiesel said:
And i read on other forum that i have to do something with kernel? But i totaly forgot what is that
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Unless you have the Sprint or Verizon M8, you don't need to do anything with the kernel. The kernel installs automatically when you flash a ROM.

What does no Sense mean?

FTWDiesel said:
What does no Sense mean?
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Sense is HTC's "skinning" or customization of the Android OS. They add their own version of some apps, modified the launcher, icons, etc. as a means to differentiate their devices from the competition.
Not everyone likes that, so there is also a Google Play Edition of the M8, which is an Android version close to "pure" Android such as on Nexus devices. GPE ROMs are based on the official HTC released GPE version OS (although custom GPE ROMs may have tweaks and customizations of their own).
While AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod and others are compiled from source code, and constitute "original work". But again, they don't have Sense customizations, and are close to "pure" Android.

Okay, thanks alot

So i flashed the newest skydragon ROM but after i installed it and used recovery(from twrp or what is the name) i recovered my data (apps etc) but my notification bar and home button wasnt there. I tried to flash it many times but it was the same.

FTWDiesel said:
So i flashed the newest skydragon ROM but after i installed it and used recovery(from twrp or what is the name) i recovered my data (apps etc) but my notification bar and home button wasnt there. I tried to flash it many times but it was the same.
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Did you check the Skydragon thread to see if its a reported issue (and if so, there may be a fix posted)? That should always be the first thing to check when encountering issues after a ROM flash.
It sounds like you migrated user data using TWRP? I don't personally recommend it, as it often leads to issues, especially if the ROM is significantly different/updated than what you were using before.
Does the issue occur if you clean flash the ROM (default wipe in TWRP, then flash the ROM) and do not restore user data?

Ye the error isnt there if i dont recover my data. But i want to have apps etc there. So is there some way to backup them? Also sms, phone calls etc.

FTWDiesel said:
Ye the error isnt there if i dont recover my data. But i want to have apps etc there. So is there some way to backup them? Also sms, phone calls etc.
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I always use the app Titanium Backup to migrate my app data. IMO its also well worth the few $ for the paid pro key, to enable the batch functions (you can backup/restore all your user apps with just a few taps). Titanium is a very useful and reliable tool for ROM flashers.
Restore the data with TWRP, then back up your user apps and app data with Titanium. Wipe in TWRP. Then reboot and restore the apps in Titanium, and all should be good.
You can also use Titanium to backup and restore your SMS (backup app data "Dialer Storage") and call log ("Contacts Storage"). But be careful about restore any system data, since that is usually when the bugs pop up.

Okey, thanks alot. I'll try it today.

Hello, i tried the titanium backup but i have many many apps there and it wanted me to confrim every one one by one when installing which is pretty annoying while i have many apps. Also i thought about other roms, but i cant find here on xda developers any "comparing stats" or something. And mostly i cant find where are some cons and pros of the roms. Only last update notes... im really dumb or idk, cant really find anything.

Also i want to ask if its possible to remove car mode somehow? Cause my phones somehow sometimes thinks that im in a fckin car and uses car mode which interrups my app or refreshes page or light my screen..