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So in summary:
1080p MKV:
laggy with no sound in stock player
laggy with synced sound in QQ player
MKV Scene released (torrents)
Has issues preventing playback
720p MKV:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
1080p MP4:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
I'd suggest trying MX Player instead. Probably no need for a video though.
ill just leave this here http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Still I'm disappointed with the performance, coming for a Galaxy S2 and all.
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
kristovaher said:
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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But of course. You cannot chuck ANY file at it. Nothing works like that. You cannot chuck ANY file at Windows either.
Just because it has problems with high definition mkv files doesn't mean it has problems with mkv files in general. Just play lower resolution files and if it doesn't play, try out a different player that might.
Let's remember that high definition video playing is still promoted as feature on high end tablets. Tablets are a bit more powerful to begin with, phones have not caught up with your high end TV or laptop yet.
I don't feel this is an issue with the phone its application thing..
Most mkv's have an h.264 video stream which the phone can hardware decode its just the software doesn't know the container so I presume its software decoding and in which case im impressed it does as well as it does..
Vplayer might be a good app to try..
True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
the video doesn't help at all really
no bitrates were mentioned on the "laggy" video
no video or audio codecs were mentioned anywhere in the video
MKV can contain any number of different video and audio codecs
MP4 can contain (for example) h.263 and h.264 codecs
This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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Google can only put on file formats and codecs that they have licenses for and native Android 4.0 comes with open source software and proprietary Google owned software.
Yes, it is a 'pure Google' issue even if you don't care about it. And more open than others on the market has its advantages and disadvantages. Sorry that you are disappointed, but reality is that Android Market has a number of media players that can play a lot of file formats and codecs that Android 4.0 does not natively support. No one forces you to use native players.
Using diceplayer the Galaxy Nexus can play any content I throw at it. It can play samples from Bluray rips at full bitrate so it's as good as you could possibly need it to be (unless you have higher than bluray quality material).
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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That's because samsung offers enhanced codec support on their galaxy S phones.. those phones running an AOSP build like CM 7 cannot play those formats out of the box. (last time I checked, they hadn't managed to port over samsung's codec support)
bongadadu said:
You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Contract on O2 but bought from phones4u. They didnt have any in their local shop so they sent this guy to get it from a shop nearby. When the guy gave it to me the box was not sealed (didnt have to cut / open anything to be able to get device out). I thought they do this to show you the phone before hand.
The phone itself had a plastic cover on it's front and back. Thinking back now I'didnt have to put the battery in either, just the SIM.
This was bought 2 days ago. I have done a reset, still do get the same lag, the camera is absolute ****e as well.
I was on text chat to O2 today, told them about the volume bug and all that, and they gave me a ref number. They also said that I could take to any phones4u shop and get it swapped, I will have to do that just to keep my self from going insane with paranoia.
I just want it to work. Call me a snob but I don't really care about sense or touchwiz, as long as it works, that's fine by me.
hi,
well... i'm the strange one, but while everyone is complaining about not able to get real full screen in some cases when you play a video, i'm on the other side, i'm looking for a video player where i could watch videos like how youtube looks like in tablet mode, when you can see other thumbnails next to your video.
before call me crazy, let me explain :cyclops: i love my nexus, i've bought it mainly for its screen, and it is great - but sadly... only when you have hd feed, (oh i love it in hd, and real full screen is great)
unfortunately i do have a lot of music video from the web, and some are really low res. i did change the audio tracks from lossless sources, but couldn't find the videos in better quality, so when i playback my favorite mv's, most of them look awful on the big screen over larged 200% or sometimes 300% :crying: i can of course playback in real size on full screen so the quality is not too bad, but it looks really weird - the big black screen with a tiny video at the center. on the other hand when i watch them on youtube (without playing in full screen) they look ok more or less, the other thumbnails next to the now playing one fill up the empty space.
i'm not sure if such a player exist, but again, i often think something is impossible, then later i find it.
does anyone know something?
Okay this might not be what exactly you are looking for but I think what you really want is a video player where you can resize the playing window so that if the video you are watching happens to be low quality, you can resize it to a smaller frame. In that case try the app Super Video by GPC on the market. It's basically a floating window video player and when you are playing a video, you can resize the window to any size you want. Hope that's useful.
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thanks for the tip, it is not bad at all, it would be close enough.
sadly it won't play smoothly. i did install the sw decoder pack or whatever was the name and now plays my files, but the audio is a bit async, and the video freezes or get blocks all over the screen, look like when a slow pc tries to play full hd files... also it takes 10 mins to load 23 thumbnails, then when i close the app, and reopen it starts again, navigating amongst the videos also freezes the app, have no idea what it is. i have mx player, it plays 720p movies smoothly, but these low quality mv's should not be a problem for any player
any idea?
Hmm I haven't really tested this app a lot so I'm afraid I can't help you. I used it to play some videos which I took with the phone's camera and it played fine. If I have to guess then it probably has problems with certain codices and you might be able to fix the problem by reencoding the videos with a different format, but that might be more trouble than it's worth.
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i reinstalled it with the codecs as well, and now plays well
but something is still not perfect, because when i played one video, and wanted to start the next one, it froze - totally, i had to remove the battery...
anyway, i keep trying, but now i know at least that it's possible, just seen on youtube that galaxy s3 have this feature by default
thanks again
I had this problem since i bought One X almost a year ago. Youtube stutters a lot, almost like cpu cant catch up. Video plays fluidly for one second, then stutters/drops frames for a moment. Then another half second or one second of normal playback, than few random dropped frames again. Audio doesnt stutter or block at all. Doesn't matter if i change quality on youtube.
It's not low bandwidth, all videos are buffered far enough ahead. This only happens in youtube app and in in-browser player. If I play or stream some video in one x's default player, no stuttering. MX player also doesn't stutter at all even with 1080p mkv's.
While I play video in youtube app, microcpu shows one core constantley jumping between 10% and 100% with seccond core activating every couple of seconds. Could it be because cpu is switching frequencies/cores while playing? Or switching from that 5th tegra core to normal cores?
Anyway the effect is most obvious in videos with camera panning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd-_kFJn_LM.
When i play that video on huawei mediapad 7 lite (really low end tablet) or ip4, video is absolutely smooth. No stuttering at all.
Any ideas?
Official 4.2.2 version.
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Try to get some custom kernel for your phone. And see what governor, IO shcaduler works best with it.
That video looks and plays perfectly on my stock one x 4.1 no stuttering at all, and I have no issues with any other youtube video's all is good for me.
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Those who have a Note 3: can anyone report back on how MKV files with 10-bit profile/hi10p play back using MXplayer (Using HW+ or whatever codec works best) or whatever video app you prefer to use?
Sample files in both 720p and 1080p resolution are here: koi-sama.net/files/hi10/
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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Samsung should give you some commission because you just sold me on the phone! <3
Thanks and thanks!
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
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Here's the codec since I'm unable to edit my previous post
RMXO said:
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
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It worked both without and with the codec. Subtitles worked better than the stock player, as it showed multiple lines at once during openings with karaoke lyrics, though both lines were on top of each other, instead of one being on the bottom and one being on the top like mxplayer had it. There are possibly settings to play with subtitles and such, but either way it seems that the phone is playing videos like a boss.
For testing I was using these videos: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=236223
I'm about to test http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=446022
and one of the most subtitle intensive videos I know, the first episode of this http://colormesubbed.com/the-world-god-only-knows-ii-bd-vol-1
I'll update this post when I am done testing.
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Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
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Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
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Thanks for the report, hi10 compatibility is a major point for me too!
So, all videos play fine, even 1080p hi10 subbed, except some pretty heavy ones, like Garden of Words..
Maybe this was due to the bigger size (a movie and not episodes) and the sourround sound?
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
GameBoiye said:
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
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Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
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Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
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This isn't specifically only related to Anime or MKV files, it's more specifically related to the h.264 standard. You can read a brief description of it here: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Hi10P and a more indepth description here: http://x264.nl/x264/10bit_01-ateme_pierre_larbier_422_10-bit.pdf
While it can be used for any videos, it's primarily used for Anime as it can provide better video at the same bittrate. It fixes a lot of problems that come with animation being encoded such as banding. It can be used for regular content but the benefit for non-animation medium is not enough to justify the increase in processing power and lack of hardware support to get people to switch.
Hello,
Can anyone help me. I bought a new amazon fire tv and intalled kodi and use it on my Panasonic plasma 55vt50. All online streaming movies look great, but my own mkv files 1080p 24h movies and series not. When camera movement the screen stutters. I bought a little black box before and had the same issues. Below my problem ( my old boxee box plays everything fine)
This is the tllb which gives the same result as the fire tv
http:://youtu.be/AGy0F5xi0iM[/url]
This is the boxee
http:://youtu.be/y_rv55IEO1I[/url]
Look at the irritating shocking screen from the lamps at the little black box.
Anyone got an idea what to do?
Thank you kind regard Robin
Android is "stuck" at 60fps, so you're probably noticing that... No solution that I know of...
Possibly try SPMC 13.4.0. It's based on Gotham but I found it to the smoothest playback. I had all sorts of stuttering issues with Kodi Helix 14.
It won't fully solve it, but it's far less noticeable imo and you get used to it.
Turn off all smooth motion settings on the t.v. That helped mine tremendously
do a search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796356
I made some observations in this post. See if some suggestions help you there.
@robinthart
While playing 1080 MKV files I made from my Blurays using BD-Rebuilder, I had an issue where it wasn't buffering, but after a while the video/movie became choppy... Worse than your video.
I read somewhere to go Settings -> Video -> Playback -> select Sync Playback to Display, then set A/V Sync Method... to Video Clock (resample audio). After doing that, I haven't had an issue.
And I needed to do it for SPMC 13.3.3, 13.4.0 and Kodi 14.0