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OK so I'm really not sure why all the Galaxy S2s have ICS but the T-mobile version. So my question is who's responsible to develop the version for the T989, Samsung or T-mobile? I don't understand why the ATT version and the international version have had their ICS for so long and we have to work on porting a version. So if someone has knowledge as to the development cycle of software upgrades and who's responsible (carrier, manufacturer, Google) to get a version out to the phone can you let me know.

Samsung builds it, T-Mobile tests it and adds their BS. Atleast that's my understanding
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born2gethard said:
Samsung builds it, T-Mobile tests it and adds their BS. Atleast that's my understanding
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that is correct, for all carriers. Samsung releases touchwizzed stock ics with Samsung bloat, Carriers add more bloat, then OTA/send it to your phone

The sprint and att versions are closer to the international version than ours are. Which allows them to get ports faster.
International is powered by the exynos soc
Tmobile version is powered by the qualcomm soc
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hazard99 said:
The sprint and att versions are closer to the international version than ours are. Which allows them to get ports faster.
International is powered by the exynos soc
Tmobile version is powered by the qualcomm soc
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Basically ours is powered by **** and the other ones are powered by good ones.
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They made a decision to give us an soc that had higher theoretical download speeds.
The note skyrocket and ours got screwed because they thought download speed was more important.
I cant be mad because I bought the phone knowing what soc it had.
It was either that or the amaze 4g.

Thanks
Well thank you for all the information. So if Samsung is busy working on getting the Galaxy S III out then I guess it might be a while since ours is crap. I bought the T-Mobile version for two reasons:
1) Faster downloads (I get 12-14 megs /sec) so I was told that was faster than ATT would provide.
2) There is no overage charges.
So if I exceed my monthly cap my bill doesn't go up and next month it will reset back to 4G speed; I can live with a few days of slower speed if needed. Basically the T989 version is crappier and I'd been better off buying an international version off the internet instead of buying the phone from T-mobile. For example I went to Corning's site and thought it had Gorilla Glass too. I found out by researching XDA that indeed it doesn't. Well I guess I'm stuck for 2 years now. Really wish I had known that what I was purchasing was the stepchild version.
Thanks you everyone for explaining the issue. Guess I'll keep looking for a good ICS ROM on the forums.

xsteven77x said:
Basically ours is powered by **** and the other ones are powered by good ones.
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Haha sad but true.

International to AT&T

Currently have the international version of the phone. Was using that AT&T loophole for unlimited HSPA+ data for $10 a month, however it seems they had a major crack down today and that can't be used anymore. Is there anybody here that has used both versions of the S3? How much of a difference does LTE really make? Can you notice a difference between the 2 processors? I'm sure the bonus ram is useful.

I've used both versions and can honestly say the differences aren't significant. LTE vs HSPA+ is night and day; almost like comparing it to wifi. As far as the processor, speed wise doing normal things its immeasurable (Games are better on the i9300). However, the S4 gave me slightly better battery. Android is pretty smart about managing ram usage so I've never noticed anything with the 2gb, but I have gone over 1gb at times.

I just came from the international and man the LTE is worth it alone. I didn't even game at all so the quad was pointless. I only had it for the crazy dev support.
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Nickel Dime Bay said:
I just came from the international and man the LTE is worth it alone. I didn't even game at all so the quad was pointless. I only had it for the crazy dev support.
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Dev support is pretty solid here too!
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GS3 Tmobile LTE capable?

So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?

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So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx

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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:

cobraboy85 said:
when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?

Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc

I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?

So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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rawdaddymagraden said:
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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elesbb said:
They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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Crisisx1 said:
By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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rawdaddymagraden said:
It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.

[Q] AT&T or International

I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
This is how I see it:
Advantages to International Model:
No Bloatware
Tethering works out of the box (though it's easy to download Foxfi)
Timely updates
Has split screen already
Advantages to AT&T version
LTE
While LTE is nice, my HSPA+ speeds are plenty fast. I'm just not sure it's worth it to move to a branded device for faster internet. What do you guys think? I know the AT&T model will get the split screen eventually, but it will likely be months and every update after that will be on the International model long before the branded model sees it.

Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
greyhulk said:
I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
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wtharp2 said:
Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
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I don't really do custom ROMs, but I have been rooting lately just to block ads (hate them). So custom roms isn't really a factor.

Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.

Id root and run international firmware with lte
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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Agreed. Get an AT&T, root it, flash with the international, and get the best of both worlds.
bendsley said:
The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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greyhulk said:
Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
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No it was not removed.
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I know you said you don't do customs ROM, but doesn't make sense to so. AT&T Note II with a custom and you get ALL the benefits (and more).
I wasn't gonna root, but went ahead because I wanted the multi-window. Now I can use multi-window with any app I want, have no bloat, LTE and get better battery life. Extremely happy ROMed Note II.

I just switched from the International model to the ATT one. The LTE alone is worth it plus you can port ROM's.
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Thanks for the advice, guys. Made the swap today and rooted. Now I'm just on the hunt for the right ROM.

[Q] Questions before moving to T-Mobile's S4

I'm ready to leave Verizon for T-Mobile because the S4 I received from them had ME7 and I really want to be able to flash roms. The S4 is my current choice for the phone to get (coming from a Galaxy Nexus so hopefully better battery life) but I have a couple of questions about whether or not to wait.
Is T-Mobile going to get a 32gb version? If so or maybe so, any ideas when? I've never had a smartphone with an sd card, so I'm not familiar with the limitations that it brings.
Is the S4 going to get an updated SoC? I've read some rumors about it getting a Snapdragon 800 soon. Didn't know if there was going to be an update spec wise this fall/winter for the holiday season.

I have the T-Mobile version and they only sell the 16 GB version, what people have done is buy the AT&T version outright which is 32 GB and put a T-Mobile SIM card in it since they're both GSM networks. I remember hearing rumors a while ago that there was going to be an updated S4 which had LTE advanced and the S800 but IDK if we'll ever get here in the USA. The stock ROM now supports Apps2SD but AOSP ROMs don't, you could always use an app like Folder Mount to do the same thing.

godssyntaxerror said:
I'm ready to leave Verizon for T-Mobile because the S4 I received from them had ME7 and I really want to be able to flash roms. The S4 is my current choice for the phone to get (coming from a Galaxy Nexus so hopefully better battery life) but I have a couple of questions about whether or not to wait.
Is T-Mobile going to get a 32gb version? If so or maybe so, any ideas when? I've never had a smartphone with an sd card, so I'm not familiar with the limitations that it brings.
Is the S4 going to get an updated SoC? I've read some rumors about it getting a Snapdragon 800 soon. Didn't know if there was going to be an update spec wise this fall/winter for the holiday season.
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By leaving Verizon you stand to loose nothing but gain the world. .. first off as fast lte or close to vzw speeds..
No bootloader crap.. sd card limitations? Its quite the opposite your concerned about. ..
Sd card phones let u transfer encrypt and add up to 64 gigs on top of the 16 g internal.
There' is no downside to leaving vzw.
The tmobile s4 is a tip top device .
Easy to root ...free Wifi calling that only we have.
No worrys ...come ovr and enjoy tmobile.
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I have to agree, I don't miss Verizon one bit. Just a note: wifi calling/texting only works on the official T-Mobile ROM, the Google Edition and AOSP ROMs don't support and it and possibly never will. The only thing I do miss is sometimes I drop down to EDGE for a few minutes in certain areas but having 5-10 Mbps on HSPA(+) everywhere else (20+ Mbps on LTE), JUMP! and unlimited everything makes up for it.

brando56894 said:
I have the T-Mobile version and they only sell the 16 GB version, what people have done is buy the AT&T version outright which is 32 GB and put a T-Mobile SIM card in it since they're both GSM networks. I remember hearing rumors a while ago that there was going to be an updated S4 which had LTE advanced and the S800 but IDK if we'll ever get here in the USA. The stock ROM now supports Apps2SD but AOSP ROMs don't, you could always use an app like Folder Mount to do the same thing.
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Which stock Rom supports apps2sd? I'm stock rooted and it's not compatible
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bobby3306 said:
Which stock Rom supports apps2sd? I'm stock rooted and it's not compatible
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Actual T-Mobile ROMs? None.
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Adam0524 said:
Actual T-Mobile ROMs? None.
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O Ok that's what I thought, the other guy was telling op that stock supports it.
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The newest update supports it but I don't think our phones got it. I wouldn't really know because I always run AOSP.

Thanks for the info! I'll definitely be checking out App2SD and possibly other VOIP alternatives to Wifi calling since I don't think I'll be on stock for very long. Sadly this thread seems to have died off and apparently this has been a long time coming with little hope : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313
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Edit: Oh and I thought the 32gb version from AT&T had a locked bootloader now.