Develop Bugs

Some Tv Out Capabilities

I didn't realize this but if you connect your HD to a tv/surround sound system through USB then you can show a slideshow, play music and play some videos (not mp4's though) through the tv. This is without the Touch Pro tv out cable (you are missing some of the capabilities like viewing what's on the screen in real time though) Anyway, here's a link: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1854
Works on the Touch HD as well as the Touch Pros and Diamonds...

Where does it say the HD? HTC have repeatedly said there is no TV out on it.

nope, your misunderstanding,
what you are doing is connecting a mass storage device to your TV which is enabled to view certain media types, thats all your TVs doing, nothing todo with the HD and TV out abilities
Nice try tho

I agree- it's not true tv out. it is mass storage but doing things like slideshows is one of the features of tv-out and some users may not realize that the Touch HD can be set to mass storage and play slideshows/videos/music on a tv

its not tv out in any sence, it relies on the TV doing all the work, if i plugged my HD in it would make no difference then if i plugged a usb memory stick in

dazza9075 said:
its not tv out in any sence, it relies on the TV doing all the work, if i plugged my HD in it would make no difference then if i plugged a usb memory stick in
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It's semantics. I understand it's merely acting as a mass storage drive and the tv is decoding everything but in the end the effect is that there is a way to do a slideshow on a TV or play music out. I get that you get it...but I bet a good number of XDA members did not know or think of using the HD as a mass storage device to do a slideshow on a tv and they thought there was no way to have the HD and the tv interact at all.

appologies, indeed it has its uses, especially for music, my TV allows me to port the music through the TV to an Amp, instant and cheap docking!
Ive also used it in a limited sence for presintations, the TP is much more usefull tho with its True TV out.

WOW thanks dint know i could do that
cheers

Incorrect Netflix aspect ratio with HDMI adapter on a HDTV

Why do I get 4:3 screen aspect ratio (with black borders on the sides) on my HDTV (capable of full 1080 16:9 HD) when using a HDMI adapter and the Netflix official app?
Also, I can't get the subtitles to be shown on the TV, even though they are shown along with the playback options on the droid's screen.
I'm certain it's not the adapter, but maybe some intentional limitation on the app. Has anyone tried this on a different device, app, ROM or situation?
By the way, I'm running stock ROM on Jely Bean 4.1

Is it the 11pin adapter? If not might be your issue.. also do other apps behave similarly?
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I noticed the same thing. It only happens on this device, the GS3 via MHL. I had a Motorla Photon 4G from Sprint that I would connect via micro HDMI, never had this problem. I even did it on my old Evo 4G with the HDMI hack, never had a problem. I currently use my ASUS TF201 (Prime) and the aspect, functions, etc, all work perfectly.
My theory is that there is a difference between just mirroring what is on your phone, and actually utilizing something in Android called videoview. I think the Netflix app detects it's connected via MHL, and switches to videoview. Older devices like the Evo 4G would only display content over HDMI via video view. I never tested netflix on that without the hack.
I couldn't get it to change. I finally just accepted I had to use my tablet.

This is the only app I know that does that (only mirroring the video instead of the complete phone screen).
Everything else works just fine.

Lol we are talking about netflix here of course its far from perfect, up until now they cant even fix their own android app which constantly freezes and has playback issues, netflix in general is going downhill. They only update new movies once every 6 months.

using galaxy note 8 as an android tv only?

I accidentally sat on my galaxy note 8 yesterday (damn it) and the screen is now broken... i cannot see anything (part of the screen is dark and other part is "scrambled") ... anyway I now want to convert the device into an android tv device as repair will cost too much...problem is I cannot navigate with the device touchscreen as I can't see nothing....
what do i need to completely convert it into an android tv? software, cables, etc... I bought the mhl hdmi cables from ebay but none worked... recommend me the correct cables to buy plz.. thx

You're in a "catch 22" scenario, you could use an OTG cable and a mouse, to enable Bluetooth and pair to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but you can't see the screen to make the pair and you can't use the MHL cable and the OTG cable together.
You'll be better off getting a new screen off eBay and replacing it yourself.
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no way to "navigate" using adb something like that and set up a bash script that outputs/tv mirroring with mhl?
Replacing the screen seems quite pricey (I am going to use that money to buy a budget chinese dual boot android/win8 tab instead)

As for using it as a TV...
Seems like the stock video player does pass 1080i 30pfs well, all other players paid or not only passes 720p.
As most all streaming services push 720p as High Def, using 1080i would be very rare, and with today's standards to allow Cable to choke our internet. There is a monopoly going on, and if it were the 70's Comcast and Verizon would be heading to court just like AT&T.
You can get a MHL HDMI adapter, and use it to use a TV to connect. I have a Samsung TV, so Anynet+ will automatically turn on the TV and switch to the input when connected to the tablet.
All you need to do, is make sure the MHL HDMI adapter is connected to the USB power before connecting to the tablet. You can either plug in the MHL adapter before powering on the tablet or plug in once the tablet has been booted up. If plugging in while off, give it a few minutes to display on the TV.
The nice thing is that the adapter will work without need of any settings changes. I use Miracast as it does not need cables and works a wee better. Though many complain about how it functions, i think it is because of modded ROMs and the lack that they do not use Samsung's update to fully optimize the workings of their tablets.
If using Miracast, you will need a MHL adapter to configure the tablet for syncing... once configured you wont need to connect the MHL adapter. Though if any Miracast settings get changed your not going to be able connect and use your tv, since your tablet's display is broken.
I prefer a stock ROM, as it is fully working, and don't having to fix what others break.

thx for the reply but the problem is I cannot use the screen as it's broken... any ideas are welcome

ok guys some progress!
using
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ and http://www.mymobiler.com/
I am able to control my galaxy note 8 from pc now with a usb connection
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ is straightforward but it is very slow and could not get keyboard and mouse to work. I used it to install mymobiler app and grant root access to it... with mymobiler, i can use mouse and keyboard and it is faster but still lags... if anyone knows better/lagless screen mirroring app, let me know.
Now, next step is to connect physical bluetooth mouse and keyboard and hdmi so that i can use it as an android desktop/tv pc

ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?

yeahman45 said:
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.

gooberdude said:
You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...

yeahman45 said:
where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.

gooberdude said:
My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors

yeahman45 said:
thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.

gooberdude said:
Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??

yeahman45 said:
thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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Yes it will work on any Monitor with HDMI.
Just TV was on the top of my head when making a quick setup.

it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?

yeahman45 said:
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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Depending on Monitor settings, some will auto fit or allow for edge to edge adjustment.
Also if using video player, the Samsung video player does do edge to edge, while MXplayer will not through MHL. I gave up on Per App settings in Xposed, before I could ascertain that MXplayer will do edge to edge with H/W or Software decoder.
One thing with SecondScreen, it may adjust for proper scaling with Monitors, though with my TV the built in PC input scales to have a boarder to compensate for the 5% overscan most all TVs use to keep encoded signals from showing at the edges.
Not all Monitors and TVs are perfect, but I am able to use edge to edge with some adjustment with the display or using a 3rd party app such as secondscreen.

what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?

yeahman45 said:
what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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Well the other option is to connect your tablet to your A/V receiver and pass the video to your monitor, or to get a signal splitter that will allow audio output. Depending on the quality and performance they can run as low as $20 and up to $150 so in some ways it is best to get an A/V receiver. If your A/V receiver is limited by inputs BlueJean cable has various HDMI switchers.
I have the link to the free app a few posts above this... just read the pages back till you find it. I am running the paid version so updates may be faster and better than the freebie. I went a head and updated to 1.4.5 just to see how much of a problem it is as for workarounds with Touchwiz. I still prefer 1.4.4 as it seems smoother at transitions between on and off / off and on. May revert back and just keep the old version as it does its job very well in automatic mode.

I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier

yeahman45 said:
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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One note about secondscreen... it will shrink the display to have borders. Some TV / Monitors have zoom or scan adjustments to remove most of the borders.
Here is the link for the free version... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free

[Q] Note 10.1 (2014) with a projector.

I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!

JDCGW said:
I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I haven't used the Chromecast for this (although with the latest app update, Android screen mirroring should be supported from the Note 2014E), although I have used Samsung's Allshare Cast Hub and Netgear's Push2TV to accomplish this. It works fairly well, provided the devices aren't set up on a network with high traffic.
Slideshow annotation will depend on the app you use to display it, but Hancom and Polaris should both support it.

JDCGW said:
I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.

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I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.
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Do the projectors you connect to have HDMI in, or are you using some king of digital to analogue converter? I also use my 2012 GNote to lecture, but the Allshare cast dongle stopped working with my VGA input only legacy data projectors. I assume this is because Samsung introduced HDCP to the dongle with a firmware update. If the PTV3000 works with ordinary D/A converters then I will get one of these. As it stands I had to purchase a "special" D/A converter that removes the HDCP handshake.

I use the HDMI connection. Have not tried it using a digital converter.

I use Tronsmart T1000 miracast device (it was around 30 EUR delivered) and it works just fine mirroring screen of my Note.
I also have HDMI2VGA adaptor box for the times when I can't connect to HDMI, it works fine and doesn't need any additional power.

Disable cec?

It's pretty much known that aftv has lousy cec support. That's fine but I've almost pin pointed a handshake issue to cec on my bedroom aftv. It's hooked up to an old-ish 1080p tv. I can't find a cec option on the tv itself, like I can in the living room. Basically if the tv starts after aftv is powered on any video I play will have audio cut in & out. I reboot often.
So I'm wondering if I can just disable cec to resolve the issue?
There is one concern...I may some day buy a flirc dongle or new tv. So if I disable it I'd like to be able to reenable it if possible. As incredibly annoying as this bug is, I'd rather tolerate it than break it.

had an issue with the AFTV conflicting with my other cec devices so used this on the hdmi for the AFTV and its all sorted now
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lindy-HDMI-Less-Female-Adapter/dp/B00DL48KVI

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had an issue with the AFTV conflicting with my other cec devices so used this on the hdmi for the AFTV and its all sorted now
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lindy-HDMI-Less-Female-Adapter/dp/B00DL48KVI
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Thanks. I'll look into it more. I'm not 100% sure of what this does? Does it basically upgrade the signal?
That may not be the issue here because I've tried higher grade cables. Actually I remember awhile back having handshake issues with Google TV and an older TV set. Customer service actually suggested using a cheap cable ( think 1.0 or 1.1) but that didn't fix it. You've given me a potential fix to look into though. Thanks again.

its and adaptor that removes pin 13 from the HDMI cable making cec on that connection useless but helped with the conflicts i was getting
also if i was to disable the cec on my tv then i would not to be able to you my receiver and sky box so it was the best option for me
i also tried a good decent cable but had no luck with that either

baz2011uk said:
had an issue with the AFTV conflicting with my other cec devices so used this on the hdmi for the AFTV and its all sorted now
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lindy-HDMI-Less-Female-Adapter/dp/B00DL48KVI
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Wow that is a nifty and inexpensive solution.. awesome!
In my searching I also ran upon this adapter - its a tiny bit cheaper and can optionally also be used to transmit IR over the HDMI CEC path
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-HDMI-I...id=1426340535&sr=8-1&keywords=hdmi+ir+adapter