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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
So, my question is, do you guys think I should buy the Galaxy Note II or the Galaxy S III? I also seen that the new LG Nexus 4 is quite nice, but with the flaw of not having expandable storage from what I've been able to gather. Or, do you guys have any phones that you would recommend that's pretty high end and expected to be good? I'm not buying my phone for at least a month, so I'm starting my research now.
The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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Thank you for your recommendation. I'm going to do more digging into the phones to see what would be the best for me. But I'm unfortunately one of those techies that like my equipment to be high end and very pretty..
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Well, on my current phone (Galaxy W CM9 Beta 1) I used to do a lot of web browsing, but, my current phone right now isn't playing very nice with me and Dolphin. I tend to do a lot of texting, as well. If I have the time in college or out and about I may watch a few things, depending on battery. It does seem like a brilliant choice. But, the 5.5 inches does sound rather insane! But the pen does come in handy a great deal. The Note II is the top contender for me, right now. No other phone even amounts to how amazing it is to me.
Note 2 is simply the best phone yet. And size is really good. Felt like it was designed for me after several hours of use. And the battery is so goood
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Well, I think it's decided! Thank you guys. I really do need something with good battery. I was worried that with the massive screen and overwhelming processor that the poor wee battery wouldn't be able to cope! The Galaxy W has terrible battery life when the data is active, which is something I tend to use a lot.
the size is huge but you get used to it, and i gotta say i love the pen for writing notes you can have a small notepad pop up every time you remove the pen im not a huge fan of onscreen keyboards and writing with the pen is very comfortable with almost no lag on the input.
was in the hospital for 4 days and the note 1 phone saved me with its huge screen, i watched youtube and movies and never felt the screen beeing to small or got eyestrain from its size.
Battery time is amazing on the note 2 also. about 8 hours watching movies twice what the first note could do, and the same the iphone 5 can do
ive seen some reports of even 10 hours watching movies
i dont see my phone as large any more, its normal its the other phones thats small.. smartphones should be about 5" with all this CPU power!
You should buy the note 2 because there is no other phone on the market now that can perform better than it benchmark test prove that.
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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
When note7000 came I regret buying it. When I heard of note7100 ive learned. I know that's the one I've been waiting. The next big thing right in my hands no regrets.
"This thing is BIG" .... that's what she said
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
If you get the note 2 you will end up selling the note 10.1... I own a note 1 (waiting for my note 2 to arrive) and I had a galaxy tab 10.1 p7500.. I bought my tab back when I had a gnexus and was very useful but since I got the note 1, I didn't use my tab at all so I've sold it because it was just a dust collector...
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm happy with your input. The Note 10.1 is brilliant for college related stuff because I have a desktop, meaning with my Note 10.1 I'm able to sit downstairs to study. It's also great for college because of how light weight it is. I just pop it in my bag and off I go. The way I use it is quite productive, for me. When fixing PC's it's normally so that I can have certain things up on the screen such as instructions, videos and what not, meaning the bigger screen is still more efficient. I normally have my bag with me when fixing PC's so it's again, on my person and easily carried. I went with the Note 10.1 over a laptop because of 1.) It's lighter 2.) Faster to boot up and operate, since everything in android is small (for the most part) and 3.) A laptop would be a waste, considering I have a high-end desktop. I did plan out what I needed before making the decision of getting one. As a programmer, though.. I work on Visual Studio for college and my own C# projects, but with Android - when I go to learn to develop on it - I will be programming with a mixture of AIDE and Eclipse. AIDE is an APK in android that lets you design apps straight from your device, then build and test them, too. It also syncs with your workspace for on the go.
But, I do thank you for your honesty. My set up is ideal for me, so far. Just that my phones a bit rubbish because of the lack of ram. I still need to look more into what is out there. Money is a bit of a factor so if I can get something that's pretty great with a lower price tag I'll probably jump on it.
aaah galaxy note 2 may be best for me
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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If you want an android phone for gaming I'd recommend a T3 device like the HTC One X+. T3 has exclusive THD games however Gameloft games don't work as well as not optimised properly for T3.
None the less GN2 is still packing some gaming power behind it.
A simple answer to your question is. If you are buying a smart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for something less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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A simole answer to your question is. If youbare buying a snart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for aomething less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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Aha, top lad! I'm hoping that the 32Gb/64Gb version is out by next month! Samsung never have enough chips to actually release those modes. (
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I'll attempt to help you out. Never used a Note 10.1 but have read many posts from users that have both. Most feedback is exactly what you stated. Note 8 has a better screen, speed/smoothness, and feel to it. As for reading books I'm not sure but for me the 8" screen is about the perfect tablet size. If you use the tablet at home primarily than a 10" tablet would work out fine. However if you plan on carting the thing around my opinion is the 10" tablet is a bit cumbersome.
As far as I know there is no official Samsung 4.2.2 release. The build being used currently is a beta leak. However, I'm running a 4.2.2 custom rom and it is 100% stable, has floating multiwindows like the Note 10, and is smoother than 4.1.2. The Note 8 may never see an official release because Samsung might just jump right to 4.3. I would think something should be released in the near future.
Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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The note 8 is a great device. . Better than the note 10.1
If you don't do much reading... and don't need spen ..get the nexus 7 2013. ..it has an amazing screen and the speakers are awesome... and the price and updates are unbeatable.. (just got it too)
Also consider the new LG gpad 8.3 inch tab which had been announced
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Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I have a tab10.1 and a note 8.0.
I use both for:
Internet, Email, movies, games. reading books and magazines.
Advantage 8.0: Weight, size
Disadvange: The only real disadvantage compared to the 10.1 is when reading magazines. Have to zoom in a lot and then lose track
8.0 goes on travel, I find the 10.1 to big for on the road.
Im just comparing form factor, not the actual devices.
Ok!
edan1979: Thanks for the link, i'm going to ready some stuff about that. I was confused about the update being for 5010 or only 5000 but now I understand.
pakure: I'm choosing Note series for reading and Spen for writing in first place and to see as well if I can do some others creative works with the Spen. Anyway, I will be watching a lot of stuff ocasionally and gaming but I'll be primmarly focusing on Spen and reading/writing. And getting a good use of its quadcore.
HANSB57: Yeah, I like your comparison from having both options. I like the portability for travelling and walking around with it. I would really like a Note that would be possible to carry around a lot, everywhere. Something light but with a screen able to do multitasking, easy to write/read, to anotate, to watch videos and to edit imgs.
I have two days to make my choice and now I'm going on Note 8.
Thexgn fine
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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I understand! Since my option is N5110, I'm on wifi only on 4.1.2. I'll be waiting that future update to really come. Let's see what Samsung is capable of. It shouldn't exist that kind of OS politics. It's such easy to get these updates in new devices.
After knowing your device requirements,......I suggest you get the note 8.
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err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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Yeah some got issue with the spen. But some dont have this problem. Its ok on my device.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
I have owned the 10.1 and now the 8.0. Writing is fine on either device. I'm taking college courses at night and I prefer the 8.0 for portability. The speakers are way better on the 8.0. My biggest issues of the 10.1 was the screen, being bigger but the same resolution as the 8.0 was just blurry enough to be annoying. It's a bigger issue than one would think. Also its hard to hold without being in the way. where as the 8.0 is nice for ebooks and surfing the net.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
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1. i think you need to zoom it a lil bit. depend on the book size... if the scan book are big you might not see it.
2. 64gb class 10 working fine. i use it on my note 2 and this note 8
3. go for class 10.
sdelliott31: once gain it's very good to listen somebody who owns both tablets. I'm really appreciated in choosing Note 8 for the pointings that you've said.
edan1979: ok! I'll need just a few books with that kind of display (horizontal 2 pages viewing), but it'll be ok zooming in particularly cases. And for the speed, I'll be glad to go for up to 30MB/s class 10 card.
Getting a option now shoud be easy after your support. I'll be getting back soon to the forum to share my experience with other users!
I used to own a Note 10.1 and now have the Note 8.0.
I would say it's a slightly better experience drawing and writing on the 10.1 because of the extra screen size.
Multi window is also more useful on the larger tablet, battery life is longer and speakers are louder.
The 10.1 also has a true tablet ui while the Note 8.0 has in effect a phone ui.
Having said all that I sold the 10.1 once I got the 8.0 for the following reasons.
As others have mentioned the 10.1 is just blurry enough to be annoying. It is more of an eye strain to read text on it than it is to read it on the Note 8.0 inspite of the larger physical size of the screen. Also the colour rendition seems better on the 8.0. The 10.1 colours seem slightly washed out in comparison.
There are times where I feel a little cramped writing on the 8.0 but these moments are hardly worth worrying about in comparison to the advantages of the smaller form factor. The 10.1 is more cumbersome to carry around and it's significantly heavier so it starts to get tiring to hold after a time. The 8.0 is also much easier to type on while holding it in portrait mode. While holding it in both hands your thumbs can easily reach all the letters.
The 8.0 also seems smother overall. The 10.1 can exhibit a little lag at time, for instance a slight delay when trying to switch apps via the recent apps button. It's still a good performer but the 8.0 is just very slick and smooth almost all the time.
Battery life on the 8.0 could be better but it's enough to get me through an 8 hour day on a full charge. I guess Samsung had to make a trade off here - a bigger battery would mean more weight and thickness so the device wouldn't feel as amazing as it does in the hand.
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they actually could do better with the battery... my old 7.7 equip with 5100mah
I own both tablets. I just got the 8" because I used to have a tab 8.9 and I thought that was the perfect size for a tablet. This one is close, more similar to a moleskine notebook.
I'm a graphic artist and honestly the resolution never bothered me on the 10". Sure you can definitely make out the pixels, just move the screen an inch away or, as a personal trick I use an anti-glare screen protector. The suddle fuzziness blends the pixels together removing the aliasing that everyone hates. Plus it makes it look more natural (prints are not extra sharp), less reflective, helps finger gliding and gives a feeling of paper when using the pen.
That said I think the 8" is better for being more portable. And that's all you really should want from a tablet. Also the pen is slightly smaller but more round and easier to hold.
I'm currently using it with a SanDisk ultra 64gb sd card and it doesn't have any problem reading it. (Both tablets didn't).
dr.mOX: yeah, once gain 10.1 battery and screen size seems to be the point to make this decision sounds hard. But for Note 8 being smoother, newer and lightly portable is what should matter. I'm thinking over and over, but each time I look around it really looks like a certain decision on Note 8. As what you've said, trades are made for better experiences in another ways. For the Phone UI, it's a little thing, but it's a different thing. Anyway, it should be fine in portrait mode.
DBBGBA: Nice to read it. It's very important to be very close to "tablet experience" to me as with notebooks we can do some working with a restricted, but possible, another kind of portability.
Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
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EmergencyMedic said:
Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
Slipurson said:
The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
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Yeah, at native size the s-note files are fine. Unfortunately most of my notes were originally in iPad Natability format - these can be exported as PDF but need to zoom to read - a right royal pain in the ... Good to know 8 has better result
Wasn't going to use 8 as a phone, got note II for that, but good to know it uses the phone apps - all I want really is a bigger note II as it works well for me. Time to squirrel away a little pennies (and persuade the better half she really wants an ipad 2 lol)
An apology in advance - just seen post saying don't post questions in this section - SORRY, my bad
Lesson learned, won't happen again
Slipurson said:
The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ).
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there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
madsquabbles said:
there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
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Nice, could that not be used with the other notes too?
i'd say yes since it just uses bluetooth to connect.
Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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edan1979 said:
Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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Interesting, wonder what other "tablet format" apps work on 8 (without root)
I'm not an expert but I think the Note 8 works fine as both phone and tablet.
I will get a phone SIM in a few days and see how it works. I have had a data only and this is fine.
Notifications coming from top keeps the eco system right with our phones. Actually I like it better on the top.
Whatever programs that I used on my ThinkPad Tablet seem to work fine on the Note.
I do email, read (Kindle), movies and have just installed Documents to Go which is my big productivity suite.
The OCR is very good and much faster for me that "typing" on the tablet.
I think the Note 8 is a winner though 32/64 GB RAM should have been stock.
I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I live in Israel and I bought my Note8 in Germany.
I expect it to work as a phe too.
It's a tablet
Mine is both. LTE for fast data and full telephony here in Oz.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build JDQ39.N5120XXCMG7 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SpherEngine-Rev1.2 on Telstra LTE
Because the Note 8 has the button in portrait mode apps seem to display more like a phone.
I had the same question recently, and this is what I've discovered.
Android basically has 3 types of interfaces.
There is the phone interface, the small tablet interface, and the full tablet interface.
If you look at the Nexus 4, 7, and 10, you can see the differences. The Nexus 7 interface is kind of a blend between the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 10. There are some features and programs that look like the phone interface, and other features and programs that use the full tablet interface.
As an 8 inch tablet, the Galaxy Note 8.0 uses the "small tablet" interface that the Nexus 7 does.
I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.
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I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.
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If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.
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If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.
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I totally agree. The S pen is pure magic. It give like 40-50% added functionality to the note 8 along with multi-window. Without it, or if you don't need it, the note 8 is just simply overpriced....
If you do need the S-pen, I think the 8 inch size is the best form factor for portability and screen estate. The smaller phablets are just too small I think to adequately use the S-pen on a regular basis (unless you just like to scrible down mini notes) and the larger ones are just to cumbersome to carry around (unless you're a digital artist who really needs the canvas for sketches).
Thank you guys. I think you helped me make up my mind. I have had the original Note i717 for almost 2 years and hardly ever used that pen. I am looking more for easy portability so even though I do love the bigger screen, I think the way to go for me is the 7 inch. Just seems more pocketable and an easier throw in the purse and go gadget. I do appreciate your thoughts though. Thanks for sharing.
For me I wanted a phone dialer which ruled out the Nexus and gave me the choice of Samsung or the ASUS Fonepad.. I don't have any doubt that if you don't need a dialer, and don't need an SPen the Nexus 7 is the best value small tablet out there. The Galaxy Tabs are good vale and nice enough tablets, but not up to the Note 8 even without the spen. The main reason to get a Note 8 though as to be the spen.
@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!
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@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!
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I'm in the UK, but yes the 3G europe versions have a phone dialer, just like the 3G tabs - works just like any mobile phone (albeit a little on the large size ).
The US versions of the Note have the telephone capability removed. They are WiFi only, or LTE equipped (AT&T branded). They can only make phone calls via VoIP. The international versions of Samsung tablets are essentially smartphones.
I use a Note 8 N5100 as my phone on AT&T's network (it also works on T-Mobile). Since it's not designed to work in the US, it only has the HSPA frequencies not LTE. This works fine in my world, I value phone functionality more than download speed bragging rights.
That said, the Note 8 is really large for a daily driver. Unless you carry a purse or other bag with you as a constant companion, it's a little inconvenient when it comes to portability. A 7 inch tablet would be significantly easier to fit into my wardrobe. But that extra 1" fundamentally changes how apps work. The difference is not trivial: 7“ is essentially a large phone, while 8“ functions as a small tablet. To really see the impact of this, visit a store and check out the Tab 7 and Tab 8 side by side. For me, having the extra real estate is worth the hassle 99% of the time. The other 1% of the time, I have my number forwarded to a flip phone on a 2¢ min plan.
There are 7" tablets with telephony. The Asus Fonepad and Samsung Tab 7 (international version). Both can be had for significantly less than the Note 8.
I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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The price is actually close at the moment. The wifi Note 8 was just $30 more than the LTE nexus. But if you compare wifi to wifi, it is a lot more $$. If I don't like my Nexus 7, that's my next one to try. I was looking for smaller portability. But that 8 inch screen was very nice.
I went for the Nexus!
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I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I never said the Note 8 was overpriced, I paid $570 for my N5100, and it was worth every penny. There is not another tablet on the market that I would prefer. That said, the Note 8 is significantly more expensive than the Nexus 7. In my opinion, the size difference is significant, and the Nexus 7 can be more easily accommodated than Note 8 for people that do not use bags/purses/backpacks, etc. Still, I like the Note 8, it's my phone!
I just picked up the Note 8
I had to see what I would be missing, so Now I have the nexus 7 lte and the note 8. I have till Jan 14th to decide what I will be bringing back. Best Buys return policy is now on holiday return schedule if purchased after Nov. 3rd. Items need to be returned by Jan 14th.
There is a whole bunch of freebies with the Note 8 tablet- $25 google play credit, 3 months hulu plus credit, sat radio, etc. Link explains it.
http://www.samsung.com/us/register-for-your-galaxy-perks/#note-8-boingo
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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I basically think your making a mistake iphone suck my friend traded his iPhone 6 plus for the note 4 so if i was you stay with the note 4.
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brfitzp said:
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Very easy, my GF (super Apple believer, always had Macs and iPhones) got an iPhone 6 of course and she can't regret it more. She's even been considering getting an android phone! Which is absolutely crazy for her.
Bottom line, you'll regret it. Sounds like you are an android veteran so I don't need to list here why it's infinitely better than iOS, even on a non-rooted phone.
Heck, if you can't live without root get a different Android phone! Or a rootable Note 4! There's plenty to choose from, don't fall far Apple's fake charm, besides the company now is at its lowest point ever.
Again, you'll regret it for sure!
oh, how I love the "talk me out of switching to an iphone" threads [/sarcasm]
If you're going to switch, just do it. You dont need anyone to talk you into or out of it. You can make your own decisions.
The IPhone 6 will be so boring for you! Just a stupid app drawer with barely any customization available. Unless you use Mac for everything else I can't imagine why you would want to be stuck in that ecosystem. Have you tried just carrying your phone naked in your pocket or use a pouch case? I use a leather wallet case and it fits my front pocket perfectly and I don't even need to carry a wallet anymore. You will also miss the screen, I promise you. I watched a 4k video in YouTube right next to my buddies iPhone 6 and it was no contest. The only other reason i can think of to switch is the better slow motion video, but that's literally it! Don't do it buddy, stay on the light side!
I had an iPhone, first one was the 5. As soon as I started using it I thought, wow, I get it! I could see why so many people like them. After a few months though, I started getting bored and frustrated by little limitations, mainly the lack of user adjustable settings both system wide and per app. So, I switched back to Android. I can't talk you out of an iPhone, because it's a great device, just not for me. The only way you can know if it's right for you is if you try it. Personally, it's my opinion that HTC makes the best phone you can buy.
If you're looking for a smaller phone, I'd look into the lg g3 or the xperia z3 compact. Both are great phones that I'd honestly pick up over the iphone 6.
Just do it traitor. Who needs to convince you. You are your own person. Jeez
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brfitzp said:
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Dude im 19 but turning 20 on the 20th of this month and have been with android since after my first phone the iPhone 3G. Since then -> HTC One X -> LG G Flex -> SGN4 all on AT&T. Everyone else in my family is using iphones from iPhone 5C's to iPhones 6's. I'm the odd guy out but I'm the guy who is like you. I root my phones when I can and I compile android roms for them as well when I can. I brought aokp 4.4.2 for the HOXL for example the first one to do that even beat official aokp upon release. But even without root Android has loads more too offer than iTunes app store especially if your a developer. Also one reason thats major to stick with the Galaxy Note 4 is for the Gear VR. Freaking oculus rift portable basically and vr gaming and cinema. Also its Quad HD 551 something DPI display. <- AnTuTu says it has 641 or something DPI I think specs are wrong from what is mentioned. I think AnTuTu is right. Also Galaxy Note 4 is using Gorilla Glass 4 . Also microSD card slot = expand storage up to 128 GB totaling to 160 GB's. Using SD card storage for movies music , utorrent (tv series etc.) Move app data to sdcard to increase storage and when we get root move entire apps to sd cards swap apps etc. You can also have camera save pictures and videos to ext sd card. We get android lollipop soon either end of this month most likely January. Also Note 4 is awarded with best color recreation read it multiple websites blogs etc. A stylus and optical image stabilization 4k video recording at 60 FPS! in UHD which I have it auto save to micro sd card then transfer vids and pics to pc. I have over 300 apps on my Note 4 and 4 HD movies and 800 songs downloaded from spotify. Several multi gb games. Because i transfer app data to sd card that im fine with them not working temporarily while sdcard it out and in my pc. Apps are back after the fact. When root does come out it will be the best phone ever #Note that it already isn;t! Swappable battery 3220 mah fast charge is legit! If you want to root now really bad get a tablet I recommend the nexus 9. >.< And check out the thread root progress note 4 att and someone is working on root for AT&T note 4 and seems close, just takes time and patience and we will have root and then customization and the best hardware and software.
Edit:: sorry for the typos typed in 50 seconds. busy. saw this had 2 respond
If you like iOS just switch. You've used Android before so you should be aware what you're leaving behind, so there shouldn't be a need for anyone to convince you to stay with Android.
My GF has been an iphone user since the first iphone, all the way up to the 5c. She had major problems with her last iPhone (5c) and she still planned on uograding to the 6+. I talked her into getting a Note 4, and she couldn't be happier. She had played with her friends android phone a couple years ago, a cheap entry level htc, and that left a bad taste in her mouth. She thought that was the experience involved with all android phones. Now that she has a flagship android device, she's all android and not looking back to ios.
Just switch, iPhones are great, easy to use and smooth ui I still love iPhones even though I'm on a note 4 and my wife is on yhr galaxy s5, the s5 is the perfect size phone, I'm starting to regret my note, too bulky and no root... I will really regret it if there is never going to be a root...
or have them both, that's why I carry both of my note 4 and an ipodtouch 5th gen with me all the time, same ios function,updated ios, with facetime, I just use mobile hotspot tethering on my note 4 to supply net to my ipod though whenever I need it
People bash the iPhone but I had a 6 Plus and a 6 and they are wonderful phones. Yeah its not customizable and blah blah blah but regardless they are excellent device and the kind of set it and forget it device. You get updates quickly and you don't have it wait around for an update to hit your device. Apps are optimized way better for ios. It just depends on what your needs are. I switched back to the Note 4 because expandable memory is a big thing for me and the certain features. There is nothing more smooth than an ios device so dont let people sway you into thinking the iPhone is a bad device. Your always going to get that answer on xda.
Remember that if you want the better resolution screen you need the 6plus which has the true 1080p screen. The 6plus also has an estimated battery life of about 24 hours tall time 16 stand by time, the screen resolution is 1920x1080 at 401ppi and it's there retina display so there's that,
the note 4 has 23 hours talk and 14 hours standby, it has a 2560x1440 resolution screen with 515ppi,
both have finger print recognition both have NFC with a mobile wallet, depending on where you live mobile wallet might not even matter yet, both are large thin phones.
The iPhone 6plus 16gig is 300$ on contract with att, the note 4 32gig is 300$ as well.
I sell these phones all day, the iPhone 6 is a hell of a lot more popular than the 6plus, the note 4 gets some love but with Samsung not really marketing as hard as apple it's a slow sell, both are amazing phones but I prefer the "freedom" of my note 4, keep in mind I phones are all jailbreak able at this moment where as we have nothing but stock , this is not to speculate what we MAY have in the future. This is a here and now comparison of the facts for each phone, not speculation or opinion. That is why processor and memory are not brought up, in real world use it depends on what you do to really know if one is better than the other...
So there's your reasoning, go ahead and pick
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Chromecast, Gear vr, sd cards, more options for 3rd party accessories, ir blaster, Samsung phones are easier to fix. More apps. S-pen, better multi tasking features. 2k display, better hardware. Idk Last Iphone I had was a 3g. I'm not sure how much they've improved the os.
Nahh i have an iPhone 5s and it's solid but I don't see myself being able to handle it as my daily phone regardless of screen size. I just use it as an ipod or if my battery runs out on my note 4 i can just switch very temporarily
The only thing I have to say about switching over to any other device other then the note series is "S-pen". If you use it a lot, trust me you will miss it.
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True I had the OnePlus One and I did miss the S-pen. I also missed the Super Amoled screen. As well as the ir blaster. Note 4 is sexy. People are always checking mine out.
Just go iPhone you will love it.
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