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I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
couple of points.
1) When you leave the house, don't leave your wi-fi on! I find wi-fi to be the biggest battery drain out of everything ( expect gps)
2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
Wifi isn't an issue. I leave it on 24/7 as well as bluetooth and still can get 36 hours out od a charge. Its hooked up to wifi 20hrs a day as well.
Phil750123 said:
2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
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thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
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1. Battery and other constantly updating widgets are one of the causes for battery drain. Get rid of it.
2. Battery widgets try to get an estimate of your typical use. They are mostly wrong in my opinion
3. I can get 6 hours of battery, yes, but only if glue the phone to my hand and use it constantly for that time
4. there are tons of battery threads around, use those suggestions (mid brightness, no live wallpaper, turn airplane on when you know coverage will be unavailable for long, etc)
5. Battery gets better in 10 days.
6. Most people can get at the very least one day of heavy usage. If you really need to hammer the battery get a spare one, they are cheap. Oh, and realize you are lucky because you CAN have a spare battery !
7. If you are using an automatic task killer, get rid of it.
callummc said:
thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
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1) go to the market and search brightness level, or brightness widget, there are a number of these. The best i find is brightness level by curvefish, it lets you pick a percentage and keep at that .
2) Cant remeber actually where the settings are but there is a way. But i prefer to use another widget, autosync on/off, this allows you to update every 15 when on wi-fi, but when you want to save battery, turn auto sync off and it doesnt sync ,
I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
Nice post thanks.ill give this a go. But I have a question to do with the positioning using data or gps. I believe your stating that you should turn data off for this purpose, and let the gps do it? however my phone was set to opposite. when I changed as you were suggesting and I clicked allow gps, I had a message come up saying to turn off to conserve battery? But your saying to turn on? And have data off? Also how do you get into htc facebook settings,i cant even find it!
dingdong3000 said:
I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
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yep i also use this widget
also use a free juice defender or paid ultimate juice that keeps turning on and off your 3g every now and then depending on how you schedule it, my phone with snowstorm weather widget updating every 80 minutes + 30s of 3g every 5 minutes to update mail etc and average usage lasts about 36 hours which is good enough for me
I leave my WI-FI on at home and suffer hardly any drain.
At work like today leave my Mobile network on down to 47% with just twitter usage!
Pathetic is the mobile signals drain.
MapleDouglas said:
I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
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Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
Dunbad said:
Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
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I believe this is what I'm saying:
"To let your device learn your location via wireless network triangulation requires less battery than by using the GPS for this purpose. However, using both methods simultaneously is probably not a good idea from a battery point of view. The GPS can handle this task by itself, although it will get a fix on your location a little bit slower. Also, wireless network positioning will be used to collect anonymous Google location data, which will drain the battery further. You can change this option from Settings > Location > Use wireless networks. "
In other words, to only use wireless network positioning will supposedly use less battery than by only using the GPS, but using both methods will naturally use the most juice
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
jauhari said:
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
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I can get get good days heavy usage (except games) from mine, I haven't tried the 2G thing yet.
Apparently it is the connectivity thing that kills the battery, but turning off 3G, doesn't that take all the fun out of it???
If you just use it as a phone then I reckon you can get a couple of days out of it, or so I've read...
Anyone using Llama for their ET4G? I use it on my Evo 3d and it works flawlessly. For the ET4G, it's been having problems. With the two phones side by side, the ET4G appears to be picking up more cell towers (that even other phones aren't picking up), and it doesn't appear to refresh the tower location readings either. I have it set to check every 5 minutes, but it can go for hours.
What is that exactly.
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Llama uses phone masts to determine your location, so that you can change your ringer, vibrate and ringtones depending on where you are as well as the time of day. Llama provides you with sound profiles so you can quickly switch between quiet, loud, silent and normal sound settings. You can set your family, wife and children to ring even if your phone is set to silent! You can create events and home screen shortcuts to manage your sound profiles and more:
-Silence your phone at work
-Turn your Bluetooth on ready to connect your headset for a morning run
-Set your phone quiet when it's late at night and you haven't gone out
-Start the music player when a headset is connected
Oh.
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It's really useful when it works...
That sounds pretty cool, I'll check it out.
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tygger said:
It's really useful when it works...
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I am not having any trouble with Llama. Are you sure you have the polling mode set to "enabled"? There are two separate settings, one for polling mode and one for polling settings. Change polling mode to "enabled" and set polling interval to 5 minutes (or whatever you prefer) in polling settings.
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Anyone using Llama for their ET4G? I use it on my Evo 3d and it works flawlessly. For the ET4G, it's been having problems. With the two phones side by side, the ET4G appears to be picking up more cell towers (that even other phones aren't picking up), and it doesn't appear to refresh the tower location readings either. I have it set to check every 5 minutes, but it can go for hours.
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It's not working for me either. I emailed the developer yesterday and apparently it's handled differently by different phones. I used to have the 3D as well and it worked fine. I can't get it to work on the ET4G.
Tasker
I found this cool app Tasker. It can do functions defined by you on meeting the circumstances you have defined. Like, I have a profile of enabling GPS on openining of maps and disabling afterwards.
Description:
Automate everything from settings to photos, SMS to speech ADC2 prize winner. Total Automation, from settings to SMS ADC2 finalist!
* Triggers: App, Time, Day, Location, Hard/Soft State, Event, Shortcut, Widget, Timer,Plugins
* Actions: 200+ built-in, plugin support
* Tasks: loops, variables, condition
* Scenes: design your own screen overlays,dialogs even simple apps
Play Store Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
Noob/Beginners Guide To Tasker:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
This is illegal, if you cant buy an app dont use it.
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
winwiz said:
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
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Sounds cool
But mine is too extra complicated to share, I now have over 30
But the most i like is nightmode,
It make brightness 10/255 and opens an app screenfilter
It makes brightness extremely low and this all happens from 12am-3 am
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
It doesnt waste battery that much, why dont.you try it and see battery stats
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
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Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
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Was thinking the same. Any partial/wakelock issues caused by the program constantly assessing the environment. As it happens I am thinking of using the program to reduce battery drain and shutting down WiFi when out of range of home networks but if it's negated by the situation above it seems pointless for my needs.
Any one care to comment?
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Waiting for app sale. The price is slightly higher than what I'm prepared to spend, especially because there is a free alternative from Microsoft called on{X}: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/onx/
SunjinSak said:
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
Greedyfly said:
Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
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Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
SunjinSak said:
Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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Perfect sense. Thank you.
T__ said:
What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
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It will allow you to continue to use it. That sort of profile works as a toggle based on the time state so at 10am it will turn it off - but only at 10am. If you were to turn it on again straight away it would stay on until you either turn it off manually or another profile kicks in which is set to turn it off again. The same goes for anything else such as ringer/silent/vibrate, mobile data, GPS etc.
@Greedyfly: you're welcome
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You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
Indian_dil said:
You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
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Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
Yeah Tasker does have a reasonably steep learning curve admittedly. By no means insurmountable to most though.
I suppose it depends on what/how you want to automate. Tasker is very powerful but not so simple. Llama is free and easier to use but no so powerful.
Both are good automation solutions. Locale is another one to check out.
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I've been using Tasker for the best part of a year now, awesome piece of software. Negligible impact on battery life and it's astoundingly powerful. A few examples of profiles I currently use - detects headphones/bluetooth headset and reads any text and who sent it, useful when cycling or out on the bike. Disables screen lock when at home, I use the phone as a control for my media centre so it remains unlocked at home and turns the screen on as soon as the handset is picked up, controls a variety of connection states according to location and time.
These are just scratching the surface. On top of this I've had direct dealings with the dev on a couple of occasions, genuinely nice bloke who does his damndest to solve problems as quickly as possible. All in all, this and Titanium backup are by far the two most useful pieces of software I've bought:good:
wind0zer said:
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Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
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But Tasker is better, even if its complicated
Thats the reason i gave a link to a noob friendly guide
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.
I love tasker even if it drains my battery(but it doesn't)
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.
I've been loving my pixel and the stock Android experience from an iPhone. Always heard about Tasker but never done into it. Any here use it? Able to share your most used profiles and tasks?
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I'm actually a Pixel 2 XL owner but I do use Tasker.
I have several profiles that include:
- Turn WiFi on when I get home
- Turn off mobile data when on WiFi/re-enable when off WiFi
- Lots of file management (putting pictures/videos into the folders of my choosing)
- Turning Bluetooth off after a few minutes if nothing is connected to it
- Show or hide the mobile data icon in the status bar depending on its status
- Disable notifications and enter DND mode when in certain apps such as Google Maps or Instagram
To name a few lol.
I love Tasker, it's definitely my favourite app and the biggest reason it's worth owning an Android over iPhone in my opinion.
If you're new to it, I suggest Googling, a lot. That's how I got started and I've come a long way since!
I used Tasker until I got my pixel 3 XL, which is when I discovered this app called "MacroDroid". It does the same things as Tasker, but the interface is a lot more simpler and intuitive. You should check it out!
I have one that is suppose to automatically cut on my wifi when I range but it's not working. Guess I'll look online again thanks
rickysidhu_ said:
I'm actually a Pixel 2 XL owner but I do use Tasker.
I have several profiles that include:
- Turn WiFi on when I get home
- Turn off mobile data when on WiFi/re-enable when off WiFi
- Lots of file management (putting pictures/videos into the folders of my choosing)
- Turning Bluetooth off after a few minutes if nothing is connected to it
- Show or hide the mobile data icon in the status bar depending on its status
- Disable notifications and enter DND mode when in certain apps such as Google Maps or Instagram
To name a few lol.
I love Tasker, it's definitely my favourite app and the biggest reason it's worth owning an Android over iPhone in my opinion.
If you're new to it, I suggest Googling, a lot. That's how I got started and I've come a long way since!
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I definitely will. Tasker is confusing
to me lol
alexenriquez said:
I used Tasker until I got my pixel 3 XL, which is when I discovered this app called "MacroDroid". It does the same things as Tasker, but the interface is a lot more simpler and intuitive. You should check it out!
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I use Tasker on my 3XL.
Mainly it disables WIFI, turns off notifications, and starts my music app when I'm in my car, mutes my phone when in meetings, and disables notifications when I have headphones on or connected to my Bluetooth speakers.
I've used Tasker since my first Android device years and years ago. Mute ringer at work (calendar based), start/stop music when my BT headphones are connected/disconnected, change screen timeout for some apps (keep it on longer for ones I specify, 30 seconds for everything else), lock screen rotation in some apps and not others, etc.
It's a steep learning curve but once you get the hang of it you can do some pretty neat stuff.
I need a setting that puts my 3XL into HSPA+ instead of LTE while at work. I have LTE signal, but it's unusable due to others syncinc constantly. HSPA+ runs fine. I can't find an app that's able to do this. I can't even find a widget that will let me make this toggle quickly without rooting.
On this week's podcast...
https://twit.tv/shows/all-about-android/episodes/395?autostart=false
They talked about Tasker and things changing come January 1st...
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It's a good show when they 'luck out' and get an honest to goodness developer to share thoughts.
I use it to automatically toggle Always On Display. Requires Secure Settings app and root. Basically I make sure it's off when I go to bed and on when the phone is docked in my car (when connected to my car's BT). Used to do a lot more but haven't really needed anything else.
Able to share how you disable wifi? I know theres in option in the settings to only connect to saved networks but it requires wifi scanning to be on. I set up a profile but I don't think it's working. Doesn't turn off my wifi when I leave my network
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I use Tasker on my 3XL.
Mainly it disables WIFI, turns off notifications, and starts my music app when I'm in my car, mutes my phone when in meetings, and disables notifications when I have headphones on or connected to my Bluetooth speakers.
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When you are in your task, click the PLUS to add an action, NET, then WiFi. You can then set it to ON, OFF, or TOGGLE.
Hope that helps.
Must have for an Android, my opinion.
Pixel phone or not. Tasker is in my opinion one of the must have android apps there. It is also one of the best. There can be a small learning curve for new users but once you are in it: oof! The possibilities even without root are amazing! I have been using Tasker since the Samsung Galaxy S3. I remember using the APK version downloaded in early years. But bought the paid some years ago. It is worth it. Seriously.
I have that. I have it set to OFF. Once I get to the main page I long press the task and select "move to exit". Maybe that's where I'm messing up at?
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When you are in your task, click the PLUS to add an action, NET, then WiFi. You can then set it to ON, OFF, or TOGGLE.
Hope that helps.
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Read some cool things you can do. Just have to find how to set them up
Aaditya91 said:
Pixel phone or not. Tasker is in my opinion one of the must have android apps there. It is also one of the best. There can be a small learning curve for new users but once you are in it: oof! The possibilities even without root are amazing! I have been using Tasker since the Samsung Galaxy S3. I remember using the APK version downloaded in early years. But bought the paid some years ago. It is worth it. Seriously.
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I used to use Tasker for SO MUCH.
Biggest thing I did was that I had automated turning wifi on once I was "close" to home, then once it connected to wifi - turn on ringers, screen brightness, turn off gps, etc (and similarly for going to work).
It helped a LOT with battery back in the day to make sure that GPS was only on when I needed it.
But now I am trying to let android handle that GPS stuff. I noticed in our settings with Pixel / Pie that there isn't even a "battery saving" location mode anymore! You can still try to turn it on via Tasker (after you have given Tasker secure settings permissions) but I am not sure what it really does in that case.
Moving on from that situation, I still use tasker for simpler things such as "profiles" for at work and at home.
And screen rotation only on certain apps, etc.
A side note --- it seems that you really don't need ROOT for much at all anymore, as long as you are willing to hook up to a computer and do some ADB commands to get the secure settings permission, that's really it.
Anyone else have cool ideas to do with Tasker?
WiFi and location one you mentioned are what I want. Ha e the location one set you but need to grant permission. Need to get a cable to sync
finsmaniac02 said:
I used to use Tasker for SO MUCH.
Biggest thing I did was that I had automated turning wifi on once I was "close" to home, then once it connected to wifi - turn on ringers, screen brightness, turn off gps, etc (and similarly for going to work).
It helped a LOT with battery back in the day to make sure that GPS was only on when I needed it.
But now I am trying to let android handle that GPS stuff. I noticed in our settings with Pixel / Pie that there isn't even a "battery saving" location mode anymore! You can still try to turn it on via Tasker (after you have given Tasker secure settings permissions) but I am not sure what it really does in that case.
Moving on from that situation, I still use tasker for simpler things such as "profiles" for at work and at home.
And screen rotation only on certain apps, etc.
A side note --- it seems that you really don't need ROOT for much at all anymore, as long as you are willing to hook up to a computer and do some ADB commands to get the secure settings permission, that's really it.
Anyone else have cool ideas to do with Tasker?
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yungskeeme01 said:
WiFi and location one you mentioned are what I want. Ha e the location one set you but need to grant permission. Need to get a cable to sync
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Yeah you are correct, the location needs the secure settings permissions. It's real easy to do though.
Since we now only have location ON or OFF (not sure if that is from Pixel, or Android P)
- I don't know if it's worth messing with? (we used to have "High Accuracy (GPS and other connectivity on phone), "Battery Saving" (was cell tower locationing only), "GPS ONLY" (not sure why one would pick that and not the high accuracy)
Unless you want to flat out turn location off when not on GPS (I used to go between battery saving and high accuracy -- and it seems like tasker might let you force that still? I'm just not sure)
Also I think having wifi ON the whole time is really not a battery drain at all anymore.
I say this because I believe there is a bit of a battery drain to have tasker checking all of this stuff all of the time.
I could be incorrect though, hopefully someone clarifies if I am wrong on this.
thacounty said:
I need a setting that puts my 3XL into HSPA+ instead of LTE while at work. I have LTE signal, but it's unusable due to others syncinc constantly. HSPA+ runs fine. I can't find an app that's able to do this. I can't even find a widget that will let me make this toggle quickly without rooting.
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I use 4G LTE Switch to stay in LTE at work, but I think HSPA+ is one of the options you can select to lock into.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/....myjio.volte.lte.jio.jio4gltewitcher&hl=en_US
I noticed a difference in battery life when I turned high accuracy off. Forgot I had it off when I used GPS the other day and it was still a accurate. May just leave it off for good
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Yeah you are correct, the location needs the secure settings permissions. It's real easy to do though.
Since we now only have location ON or OFF (not sure if that is from Pixel, or Android P)
- I don't know if it's worth messing with? (we used to have "High Accuracy (GPS and other connectivity on phone), "Battery Saving" (was cell tower locationing only), "GPS ONLY" (not sure why one would pick that and not the high accuracy)
Unless you want to flat out turn location off when not on GPS (I used to go between battery saving and high accuracy -- and it seems like tasker might let you force that still? I'm just not sure)
Also I think having wifi ON the whole time is really not a battery drain at all anymore.
I say this because I believe there is a bit of a battery drain to have tasker checking all of this stuff all of the time.
I could be incorrect though, hopefully someone clarifies if I am wrong on this.
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I've recently upgraded to the Google Pixel 6 Pro after 8 years with the Google Nexus 5, so, this would be my first time with a "modern" smartphone as of present
Everything is wonderful except one thing, the battery life
When idling (I do not touch the phone at all, rarely or no lock/unlock) I watched my Pixel 6 Pro drained 6% in the span of 2 hours, so roughly 3% per hour (That is a lot!), compared to my Nexus 5 which feels like it drained 5% if left alone for the whole day
What is going on? is it a "modern" phone thing? is it my phone? my settings? at this rate, it needs to be charged daily
Here is the Battery Usage breakdown;
https://imgur.com/a/mgJsN7n
Battery Usage breakdown while asleep;
https://imgur.com/a/Mj3VDE3
Why does "Mobile Network Standby", "Ambient Display", "Phone Idle" eat so much battery while idling, I am thinking of getting rid of "Your Phone Companion" even though I find it useful, conflicted if it is worth the battery, everything else looks good
EDIT: I am happy to say, after uninstalling "Your Phone Companion" the battery began to show improvement and following all the battery tips helped me maximize it, now I feel like I can go 3 days with the phone without charging it
In one of the battery threads Mobile Network Standby is a big topic. It appears to be a bug that is impacting some people. I would expect a fix from goggle for that. I have nothing on ambient display.
It's highly possible your phone isn't ever going into a deep sleep, which can cause unnecessary battery drain from apps that are stuck running in the background, or causing the phone to "wake". Did you transfer over all your apps and settings from your old phone? Some have said this has caused unusual high battery drain, and a factory reset where you don't restore from backup has helped.
Install AccuBattery or GSam battery monitor to get an understanding of your battery usage in greater detail.
AccuBattery - Apps on Google Play
AccuBattery monitors battery health performance via science
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GSam Battery Monitor - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
minun said:
Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
RetroTech07 said:
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
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Thank you so much for this, it helps to compare
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
minun said:
I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
minun said:
I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
minun said:
Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
minun said:
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
Lughnasadh said:
If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby...
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
RetroTech07 said:
Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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That's it! Just turned it off, I must've forgotten about that one lol. Thanks
RetroTech07 said:
Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If I turn off Adaptive Connectivity, it would just stay on LTE and won't switch between 5g (setLTE is my preferred network),3g,2g?
how about "Allow 2G", do I need this on and would turning it off save battery? it read
'Use 2G mobile connections. For emergency calls, 2G is always turned on.'
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
MrBelter said:
Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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No, that's not how adaptive connectivity works. Your phone will always prefer the highest tier network available (as long it get's a signal).