ROM switching on the HTC One? - Verizon HTC One (M7)

Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.

jakichan77 said:
Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.
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IIRC there's a virtual SD card where certain things dont get wiped (I think titanium backup accesses this)

crazyg0od33 said:
IIRC there's a virtual SD card where certain things dont get wiped (I think titanium backup accesses this)
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Do you happen to know of it's accessible via computer or a file manager app? (or custom recoveries?)

jakichan77 said:
Do you happen to know of it's accessible via computer or a file manager app? (or custom recoveries?)
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Its nothing different from dealing with a standard SD card. When you wipe you're wiping data (not internal storage but app data) cache and possibly dalvik and system. None if which will end up wiping your saved files on SD card unless you select wipe internal storage. Just to note HTC or Verizon blocked us from unlocking bootkoaders right now so no go on that except for a few that did it day one.
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jakichan77 said:
Couldn't find a thread on this and this may be a COMPLETE noob question...
I've never dealt with a phone that couldn't hold an SD card and I'm hoping to get the HTC One soon. I root/switch roms on all my phones.
I was just wondering, since the HTC One doesn't hold an SD card, what happens when I flash a ROM?
Usually, if I am correct, wiping data removes everything on the phones internal storage, and since the HTC One doesn't have external storage, will everything (songs, pictures, etc) be erased upon ROM switch?
I'm just baffled if it's all erased upon switching. Sorry for noob question, as I stated, I don't deal with phones with no external storage, so thanks XDA.
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Recoveries differentiate between internal storage and the virtual "/sdcard", so that won't be wiped.
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just don't accidentally hit erase internal like I did!
you'll be stuck in recovery/bootloader with nothing to flash, no nandroids nothing
took forever to fix my horrible mistake.
been trying like hell to find an easy way to switch the menu order in TWRP. there is no reason why the internal wipe is right above system wipe.
alphabetical or not, it's set up for failure.
Learn from my misfortune!
eventually I was able to adb devices in fastboot to and it read my device, and eventually was able to get the phone mounted in recovery to adb push a rom.zip to flash.
nothing fun!

andybones said:
there is no reason why the internal wipe is right above system wipe.
alphabetical or not, it's set up for failure.
Learn from my misfortune!
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I cannot possible count the amount of times i hit that button and was half a swipe away from erasing my internal on my S3... The flow goes against us all.

Thanks guys, swayed my opinion toward the One in the right direction. I'll be sure to watch the HTC one development until an S-OFF method becomes available. I think we remember the Rezounds S-OFF o.0
Where there's a will there's a way. I'll also try not to lose my data on the internal SD card, probably back up my photos every so often. Thanks again.

jakichan77 said:
Thanks guys, swayed my opinion toward the One in the right direction. I'll be sure to watch the HTC one development until an S-OFF method becomes available. I think we remember the Rezounds S-OFF o.0
Where there's a will there's a way. I'll also try not to lose my data on the internal SD card, probably back up my photos every so often. Thanks again.
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Let's just hope we have the support we had for the Rezound, I truly hope someone will help bring this phone to life and give it the justice it deserves! S-OFF, and the DEV claims his much deserved bounty.

There is one wrinkle with these HTC internal sdcard partitions that people need to be aware of. If you select factory reset in bootloader rather than recovery, the whole thing can become corrupted so that you lose all your data. Everything. I've seen people do this and then panic thinking they've bricked their phones. It's fixable, but you have to reformat externally using your computer.
Wiping in recovery preserves the /sdcard partition. So as a general rule, wipe ONLY in recovery, NEVER in bootloader.

iElvis said:
There is one wrinkle with these HTC internal sdcard partitions that people need to be aware of. If you select factory reset in bootloader rather than recovery, the whole thing can become corrupted so that you lose all your data. Everything. I've seen people do this and then panic thinking they've bricked their phones. It's fixable, but you have to reformat externally using your computer.
Wiping in recovery preserves the /sdcard partition. So as a general rule, wipe ONLY in recovery, NEVER in bootloader.
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How would one then completely factory reset their phone like you were allowed to on the Rezound? Just install the default ROM in H-Boot? (Well, not ROM, but I think you get what I'm saying, the P9H-blah.zip).

jakichan77 said:
How would one then completely factory reset their phone like you were allowed to on the Rezound? Just install the default ROM in H-Boot? (Well, not ROM, but I think you get what I'm saying, the P9H-blah.zip).
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Factory reset inside Sense will wipe all user data.

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[Q] Very, very frustrating odd happenings...cause?

I have tried everything I know to do so I'm here asking for help....
I run Calks ROM and recently tried updating without wiping (normally never do). After a couple days of a buggy phone, I decided to wipe data, format, format, format, wipe data, etc and flashed it again. Start using it and it starts acting up again. Did my wipe/format deal and flashed stock...and left it stock. Within the first day it locked up and reset itself multiple times.
I don't know what to do...is there anyway to start any "cleaner" than formatting everything multiple times? I would really like a working phone again...
Are you restoring your information with titanium backup? If you are that's your problem.
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gqstatus0685 said:
Are you restoring your information with titanium backup? If you are that's your problem.
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+1. You can restore apps only, but don't restore apps + data.
Is this the only rom that's causing it?
I never, ever, ever use any "backup" anything. All apps get reloaded one by one and settings get modified one by one...
This is happening with every rom I try. I format EVERYTHING (except SD card, which is my next attempt at fixing...). This is why it's so frustrating. I can't blame anything. I try running the ROMs stock (no not-included apps) and the phone is still running like crap.
Tried deleting the ".android_secure" folder from the sd card?
If it's happening on every rom, and you completely wipe every thing correctly, the only thing they have in common is the sd card contents. Right?
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
xNotta said:
Tried deleting the ".android_secure" folder from the sd card?
If it's happening on every rom, and you completely wipe every thing correctly, the only thing they have in common is the sd card contents. Right?
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
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Android secure is supposed to be deleted during the fActory reset. I will try getting the SD formatted tonight and start FRESH, FRESH....
perhaps it's the kernel?
SpaceMonky said:
perhaps it's the kernel?
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I've tried many kernels (stock, stock tweaked, ziggy, kingxklack)
awenthol said:
Android secure is supposed to be deleted during the fActory reset. I will try getting the SD formatted tonight and start FRESH, FRESH....
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Mines never been deleted from stock factory reset or reset with amon.
It started to cause problems with app downloads from me switching roms and reinstalling all my apps and moving them.
Just remember, if you have apps on your sd card (Not on a separate partition) move them to the phone before deleting it if you want to keep them.
Any luck fixing it yet?
What bout nand restore? Did you ever make a nand backup? It has always fixed any issues I've ever had.
I've been traveling for work and haven't had a chance to sit down and mess with it since the night I initially posted. Hopefully it is as simple as androidsecure not getting deleted...thanks for the heads up.
I just did a FULL FULL FULL wipe of the phone. "Factory reset," "format; SD, SD ext, system, boot, data, etc"....
I then flashed zip, rebooted and let it sit for 10 min before turning it on...upon unlocking, it locked up.
THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS!!! Is it possible the phone is just effed???
squick said:
What bout nand restore? Did you ever make a nand backup? It has always fixed any issues I've ever had.
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No good either...the last "good" backup comes up with "checksum error."
I'm not big on nand backups, since I usually do full wipes and restart from scratch. I don't really care if I can restore an old setup.
If you can't find a software reason for its acting up, it's a hardware problem. Full wipes take care of pretty much any software problem.
I would suggest unrooting and taking it by a Sprint store. If none of the suggestions you've tried so far have done any good, that's about your only option.
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TheMagicalSock said:
If you can't find a software reason for its acting up, it's a hardware problem. Full wipes take care of pretty much any software problem.
I would suggest unrooting and taking it by a Sprint store. If none of the suggestions you've tried so far have done any good, that's about your only option.
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That's not an option either...as I bought it outright off ebay.
Guess I'll just go to the Epic...

[Q] A little assistance would be appreciated!

Hey all! So, a couple weeks back, I flashed a BETA ICS ROM onto my Inspire (Desire HD). Being my normal ignorant, and noob-like self, I completely ignored the fact that the thread said "DEVS ONLY!"
Well, flash forward a couple of weeks, and my Inspire is all but bricked. The ROM did not have mobile data yet, did not have a connection to the micro-SD card, and it was not touchscreen ready yet. I have tried ADB, but to no-avail, my file system knowledge and overall lack of knowledge put me quite a predicament.
I have flashed many ROMs before, but I sincerely messed up big time on this try. So, would any of you be able to help me find a cure for this important issue? Is the fix really simple and easy, and I am just a bonehead?
Thanks!
Not sure what your issue is. You never clearly stated. Does the phone not boot? Stuck in the splash screen? you want to flash a new rom?
marsdta said:
Not sure what your issue is. You never clearly stated. Does the phone not boot? Stuck in the splash screen? you want to flash a new rom?
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Oops, sorry! My problem is that my phone is stuck on the developer ROM, and I would like to fix it somehow. So, yes, I would like to get another ROM, but I have to remove this one first. The phone itself works great, but with no wi-fi, mobile data, and no touchscreen support, it is hard to live with.
Your nowhere near bricked. Going to ask the basics. Did you make a backup before hand? Did you have another rom on your SD card.?
If you answered yes to either then simply boot into recovery and flash the rom/ backup. You mentioned flashing roms before so I left out the steps.
If you answered no then you have two options. You can mount the SD card from within cwr. So download a rom on your PC. Mount the sd card, then flash away. Or take out SD card and use an adapter/other phone to transfer a new rom.
I was not smart enough to back up onto a computer, but I did back up onto the SD card. The only problem with this is that the ROM, and my computer, will not recognize that there is in fact an SD card inserted into the phone. So, in other words, it's like not having an SD card at all.
CWR will still read the sd card. Trust me. boot into CWR and restore your backup. And you be good as gold
Thanks! But, what exactly does CWR stand for? Haha, I'm not the most knowledgeable on the topic of Android, but is it like Clock Work Mod?
iTookTheByte said:
Thanks! But, what exactly does CWR stand for? Haha, I'm not the most knowledgeable on the topic of Android, but is it like Clock Work Mod?
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yeah. CWR stands clockworkmod recovery
Okay, in that case, I'm not sure. All of my old files (CM7, CWM, etc.) were on the SD card, and it is unreachable. I have tried to boot into CWR, but it just gives me a black screen. I feel like this thing is just unable to be fixed!
its fixable. just the black screen in CWR is an obstacle. worst case is you have flash an ruu and start over with the whole rooting. i remember reading about the black screen in CWR give me a few minutes to find them to see what to do next
Okay! Thanks a bunch!
Pull the battery and put back in
Press and hold vol-down
Press power and bootloader will start
Select recovery using vol keys and press power
If you have a backup (you really should, and and if you don't consider this experience a learning one), restore it by selecting the backup / restore option
If no backup, goto mounts and select as storage, plug usb into pc and copy your favorite Rom over, then select back and flash from zip, select the zip and you should all be back up
But please, please I'm all for people learning and experimenting, but might be worth reading some of the basics guides and notes on roms before flashing the next one. Oh, and if I forgot to mention.... Do a backup before flashing ANYTHING saves heartache later, the enjoy
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THANK YOU! I remember this now! Thanks everyone
Your welcome, after all, we all have to learn sometime
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ok i couldn't find the specific thread i was looking for. i remember it being stickied but couldnt find it. did find something that might be usefull but it depends on if you have access to an sd card adapter or other phone to transfer the file needed to reflash CWR. If not i would suggest trying to see if flashing an ruu to help.
edit- I'm confused now. thought you said that when you boot into recovery all you get is a black screen?

[Q] Pitfalls of Flashing the GNex?

Hello, I searched through three pages and didn't find a similar thread, I have also skimmed a fair bit and still nothing.
Since the GNex has all of its memory internal will I be forced to slowly and painfully back up all of my pictures, music, documents, etc every time I choose to switch roms and do a full wipe?
I understand that in the process of rooting it is a safety feature of Google's to erase everything; however, I just hope there is an easier way.
if you use a rom from the same cook you might not have to wipe before you install a newer rom.
bdangol said:
if you use a rom from the same cook you might not have to wipe before you install a newer rom.
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That's true but with this being a new device and the hope that their will be a HUGE amount of development that would be a fate worse than not even rooting lol.
I'm confused. With the Nexus S I never lost all my stuff on the SD when I wiped and flashed new roms. Is there something different with the file system between the Galaxy and the S?
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when you wipe you don't lose any pictures or videos or anything like that. It only erases the system and data folders
Generally, it only wipes/reinstalls /system and /data, leaving /sdcard intact (even though there isn't an sdcard... we know). That being said, it is possible to fully wipe the device, as I've had to do a few times (copying stuff back to my phone right now actually...), but most people won't need to do that at all. Even for switching ROMs.
Good to know the Nexus S avoided this issue. It might be that you just lose everything when you do the initial root, flash cwm, etc step.
You will lose everything whenever you fastboot oem unlock.
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Reboot stuck on PA3+ screen

Hi all,
I've recently rooted my Galaxy S3 with CWM, but couldn't do the Paranoid Android upgrade due to CWM being an old version or something like this.
I downloaded ROM Manager and upgraded CWM. Then went to recovery mode and installed Paranoid Android 3+.
Upon restart, the screen remains locked forever on the PA3+ initial screen.
Any urgent help would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
Try twrp, factory reset before flash.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Pirateghost said:
Try twrp, factory reset before flash.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Can you pls explain in some more details as I'm a beginner? To note that I cannot use the phone, so I guess the things I have to do should be done with a pc I guess... or in recovery mode maybe?
Shall I try recovery mode and do a factory reset, and in that case will I lose data?
Well this should actually be handled in the thread where you got PA, in case there are certain things that the gs3 requires, but when going from one ROM to another, you are supposed to factory reset from within recovery. Yes you lose your apps and data, not sdcard stuff like pictures, etc. This is why we all use titanium backup or helium to backup our apps.
Twrp is usually preferred over cwm these days.
Again you need to read in your device section about the proper way of handling things because your device is different from mine.
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Pirateghost said:
Well this should actually be handled in the thread where you got PA, in case there are certain things that the gs3 requires, but when going from one ROM to another, you are supposed to factory reset from within recovery. Yes you lose your apps and data, not sdcard stuff like pictures, etc. This is why we all use titanium backup or helium to backup our apps.
Twrp is usually preferred over cwm these days.
Again you need to read in your device section about the proper way of handling things because your device is different from mine.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Actually I did a backup with Titanium, but not sure if I saved it on the internal drive or on the external sd card, and I can't access the phone to check were... but if I remember well it saved in the titanium folder which be default I think saves on the internal drive. Unfortunately neither the pc nor Kies won't recognise the phone...
Do you know with a factory reset if i loose my contacts also?
thealley said:
Actually I did a backup with Titanium, but not sure if I saved it on the internal drive or on the external sd card, and I can't access the phone to check were... but if I remember well it saved in the titanium folder which be default I think saves on the internal drive. Unfortunately neither the pc nor Kies won't recognise the phone...
Do you know with a factory reset if i loose my contacts also?
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It shouldn't matter where your titanium backup is located. A factory reset in recovery should not wipe your SD card. Internal or external. Again I really cannot stress enough that this post belongs in your device section to get the people that know your device best. Your device is not officially supported by the PA team and this is a general ROM flashing issue not an issue with PA ROM
Your contacts should be backed up to Google unless you changed that.
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Pirateghost said:
It shouldn't matter where your titanium backup is located. A factory reset in recovery should not wipe your SD card. Internal or external. Again I really cannot stress enough that this post belongs in your device section to get the people that know your device best. Your device is not officially supported by the PA team and this is a general ROM flashing issue not an issue with PA ROM
Your contacts should be backed up to Google unless you changed that.
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Hi, I understand your concern and have taken your advice to post also in my device's forum. Thanks for your precious help, really appreciate.

TWRP Backup takes forever on data section

Hi all
Am running ViperOne on HTC One M8 S-OFF full root, latest TWRP (although it happened on the older version also).
When I try to make a TWRP backup (system, data, etc), the system portion goes quickly but the "data" portion takes forever. I dont even know if it would ever finish as I end up hard rebooting after an hour in frustration. I try on the internal drive and the external SD, same issue.
Any idea why this happens and how I can fix it ?
Any help would be much appreciated,
Thanks
Did you turn on compression ? If so turn it off and it will be done in 2 minutes tops
Thanks for the reply.
No I don't turn on compression. But will double check to make sure.
Just tried it again without encryption and it was much quicker. That must be the cause. Now the question is if I can leave nandroid on my sd card not encrypted. Maybe best to put on computer instead.
Whatever you wish, always good to have a backup somewhere else
Agreed
Thanks for all your help.
Will keep on computer.
Btw do you think its safe to also leave a copy of my nandroid on my internal SD, or can other apps access it ??
I always worry with the endless permissions that all apps ask for.
Mwah i never had issues in the 6 years i run htc/custom roms and leaving backups here and there.
People are often to scared, probably because of other people telling wild stories, not saying nothing can happen but me thinks it a tad overrated
Thanks Mr Hofs

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