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Odin binary counter

Can someone explain what it is, and do I have to worry about it. I had to use it 3x already.
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It counts how many times you use odin to flash something. A usb jig will reset that counter if u buy one.
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So if we had a problem and had to take it in for repair, would it need to be reset? Or can they not pull that up?
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It does need to be reset for service. they can pull it up.
you can also pull it up to see how many counts by just going to odin mode Volume down + power from a turned off phone.

Mrdiaz09 said:
So if we had a problem and had to take it in for repair, would it need to be reset? Or can they not pull that up?
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I don't even think sprint will look. Most employees don't know about it.
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Maximum amount of binary count?

Hey guys, I have been switching ROMS like crazy and a few roms have given me issues with me LTE/4G, the only way for me to fix this is by restoring it back to stock and re-rooting it. anyways, is there a maximum count or else it will permanently brick or something?

Do you mean tripping the flash counter? I knew a guy who tripped his flash counter some 90 times or more on his note 1.
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Iv gone to 28 lol on this phone
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Mine stays at 1 no matter what I do.

I think the counter only gets tripped when you change recovery. That's what I found out when I did it.
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Samsung only cares if it's 1 or higher. Truth is they might have a limit to counts. Aka 255 or something. But I doubt it matters. If youre that worried triangle away. You just have voided your warranty. Which is stupid. Warranty doesnt matter on insurance though. They will gladly charge you the insurance fee for a new one.
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Weirdest thing ever..

So I convince my sister to let me root her phone after showing her my awesome phone. I get all the files and prepare for the Odin flash but when I go into download mode on her phone everything says custom and she has a flash count of 7. Weird thing is that her phone isn't pre owned and I can guarantee that her phone has never been rooted or had anything flashed on it. Anybody see this before?
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Not I. The only way to trip the counter is to flash anything but official firmware via odin.
You sure it wasn't a refurb, or used and repackaged? Unless she got it direct from T-Mobile or a Wal-Mart type store, this is very possible.
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That's the weird thing, she bought it straight from tmobile. My sister has no idea how to do any of this stuff so I know she didn't root it before.
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Maybe it was used for batch testing? I kinda doubt there's any way to get to the bottom of this one...
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Yeah but it kind of makes me curious what would have happened if she ever needed a warranty replacement...
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marcoxx626 said:
Yeah but it kind of makes me curious what would have happened if she ever needed a warranty replacement...
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TriangleAway?

Yeah I used triangle away after I rooted it
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What will T-Mobile do if they find out if I'm rooted?

I need to take my phone up there because the phone is having problems with the battery and I've done everything I can. I have insurance on the phone and also have Android JB 4.1.2 and I'm rooted. Is there anyway to hide it or should I even care?
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ThaGreatest said:
I need to take my phone up there because the phone is having problems with the battery and I've done everything I can. I have insurance on the phone and also have Android JB 4.1.2 and I'm rooted. Is there anyway to hide it or should I even care?
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TriangleAway then Odin stock and factory reset if you can.

Do as said above by Aerowinder if possible, if not just play stupid.
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What will happen if I show up without doing that? I really just need input on what's wrong and what I can do to fix it unless they'll give a new one since my phone looks completely brand new.
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Aerowinder said:
TriangleAway then Odin stock and factory reset if you can.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Do as said above by Aerowinder if possible, if not just play stupid.
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Do you guys think they'll give me a new phone or anything because my phone is in mint condition. There's not a speck of damage on it.
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ThaGreatest said:
Do you guys think they'll give me a new phone or anything because my phone is in mint condition. There's not a speck of damage on it.
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I wouldn't know what happens if you're going through T-Mobile but I assume you'll be fine if you're polite and explain you don't know what's going on, insist you've been with T-Mobile because of their excellent support if they make a big deal about it. Asurion the insurance company working with T-Mobile will take it anyways because they just fix it and that's it and resell it. And because you pay a monthly bill they're making money off of you regardless and you still have to pay a deductible.
But you SHOULD really return to stock.
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If they see that the phone is rooted, they'll just simply do nothing for you. That's why people say "your warranty is now void".
Do what is mentioned above or take your chances and hope the T-Mobile rep that is assisting you doesn't check to see if the phone is rooted or check the flash counter.
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I most likely just try to extract some info from them so maybe I could fix it myself. I really don't want to pay them money for something not my fault.
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I was hoping not to do that being that I just had to do factory reset like 2 weeks ago and I hate reinstalling everything but I guess I have to do it. I get the stock version from DocHolidays thread, right?
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I get it from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949687 right?
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That should do the trick. And if you're on a stock build now, you may not have to factory reset, backup anyway.
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DocHoliday77 said:
That should do the trick. And if you're on a stock build now, you may not have to factory reset, backup anyway.
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I'm on the root66 version
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Oh, simple enough then! Just go to SuperSU and unroot.
You could even try to temp unroot if you think that's all you'd need to do to hide it.
Befire you unroot though, do you have a custom recovery or kernel installed? If not, then run triangle away, then unroot. If you do, reflash root66, then use TA and unroot.
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ThaGreatest said:
I need to take my phone up there because the phone is having problems with the battery and I've done everything I can. I have insurance on the phone and also have Android JB 4.1.2 and I'm rooted. Is there anyway to hide it or should I even care?
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What's the problem with the battery?

I like the features I get with my stock build, but I'm considering a root for better control over my apps, (Greenify, permission control) so this thread seems like a relevant question.
Is Triangle Away and unrooting all it takes to make it appear that I haven't done anything?
The warranty issue is the only thing stopping me, it's saved me a bunch in the past...
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OutlawV said:
I like the features I get with my stock build, but I'm considering a root for better control over my apps, (Greenify, permission control) so this thread seems like a relevant question.
Is Triangle Away and unrooting all it takes to make it appear that I haven't done anything?
The warranty issue is the only thing stopping me, it's saved me a bunch in the past...
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If done in the correct order with no custom recovery or custom kernel, yes that should be all you have to do.
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I rooted my phone once, but I will never do it again after what happened. Last year I rooted my GS3 and about a week later, my local T-Mobile store called my phone unexpectedly. The guy on the other end told me I was due for a price drop, but I would have to come into the T-Mobile store to sign the paperwork before it would take effect. 2 days later I stopped in to get the discount on my monthly payment. The T-Mobile employee said he would have to look at my phone just to verify that it was the correct serial number. He went into the back room and said he would be back in a few minutes. 10 minutes later, a police officer walks in the store and asks my name. I'm totally freaked out wondering what the deal is. He asks me to turn around a puts hand cuffs on me. The officer told me I was under arrested and being charged with "rooting a mobile device". I was booked and released, but I would watch what you do to your phone. Good luck.
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LOL!!!
I'm not even sure how to react to that!
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Just be careful... The terms of my probation are to never visit XDA, so I'm really just telling what can happen.
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dave2metz said:
I rooted my phone once, but I will never do it again after what happened. Last year I rooted my GS3 and about a week later, my local T-Mobile store called my phone unexpectedly. The guy on the other end told me I was due for a price drop, but I would have to come into the T-Mobile store to sign the paperwork before it would take effect. 2 days later I stopped in to get the discount on my monthly payment. The T-Mobile employee said he would have to look at my phone just to verify that it was the correct serial number. He went into the back room and said he would be back in a few minutes. 10 minutes later, a police officer walks in the store and asks my name. I'm totally freaked out wondering what the deal is. He asks me to turn around a puts hand cuffs on me. The officer told me I was under arrested and being charged with "rooting a mobile device". I was booked and released, but I would watch what you do to your phone. Good luck.
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Rooting a device isn't illegal. They can kiss my ring. Think about it, if it was illegal why are root apps allowed on Google Play? And also, why is XDA not been shut down?
Methinks something else happened there. Maybe you voided their warranty and tried getting a discount which may be against the rules. Or something. But I know for a fact this is legal. Unlocking is a different story however.
So my advice, root on my brothers it's the only damn freedom we have left here in America.
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Rooted tmobile S4 - Insurance/protection plan question

If I get the UVUAMDL file that you flash with Odin from the computer and take the root off, will they accept the phone or can they still see I voided it somehow? I pay 10 bucks a month for tmobiles premium handset insurance plan... I cracked the glass so I'm assuming I'll have to file a claim....
Another question, do they send you the new device first? Or do you gotta pay the waiting game with them?
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That won't reset the flash counter, but it will unroot it.
But if it's with T-Mobile, I don't think it will matter.
And they usually send out the phone first.

theexel said:
That won't reset the flash counter, but it will unroot it.
But if it's with T-Mobile, I don't think it will matter.
And they usually send out the phone first.
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Yeah T Mobile sends the new phoen first. Then you have like 7 days to return your old phone or they charge you $600 for it. But they'll send you a return case and everything with prepaid shipping. Just slip the old phone in there and put it in a UPS box. They are really easy to work with on stuff like this.
I have no idea if you really need to reset teh flash counter or not, but it's insanely easy to do it so you may as well. Do a search for Triangle Away by Chainfire. You just get back to complete stock rom and recovery through Odin, root using CH auto root, install Triangle Away and run it, and it will reset the flash counter. Then uninstall the Tiranlge Away app and go to the Superuser settings and click "complete unroot" (Or something like that, I forget what the term for it is, but it's obvious)
You will now have a phone with stock rom, stock recovery, no Superuser APK, and a flash counter that says 0.
I just did it last week. Took me all of 10 minutes to do the whole thing.

lucas said:
If I get the UVUAMDL file that you flash with Odin from the computer and take the root off, will they accept the phone or can they still see I voided it somehow? I pay 10 bucks a month for tmobiles premium handset insurance plan... I cracked the glass so I'm assuming I'll have to file a claim....
Another question, do they send you the new device first? Or do you gotta pay the waiting game with them?
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Flash the UVUAMDL stock file.
Use CF Auto root by Chainfire to root phone.
Use Triangle Away to reset flash counter (TA need root hence step above)
Open SuperSU app and choose "Full unroot". It will remove SU binary and SuperSU app.

baseballfanz said:
Flash the UVUAMDL stock file.
Use CF Auto root by Chainfire to root phone.
Use Triangle Away to reset flash counter (TA need root hence step above)
Open SuperSU app and choose "Full unroot". It will remove SU binary and SuperSU app.
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Don't forget to uninstall the Triangle Away app too! (It's kind of a giveaway that you messed with it. hahah!)
It installs as a user app though, so a factory reset after this would wipe the app out anyway.

Skipjacks said:
Don't forget to uninstall the Triangle Away app too! (It's kind of a giveaway that you messed with it. hahah!)
It installs as a user app though, so a factory reset after this would wipe the app out anyway.
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Asurion never said squat to me about it and I still had a custom ROM on it when I sent it back.

muqali said:
Asurion never said squat to me about it and I still had a custom ROM on it when I sent it back.
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Ha!
I once took a phone with Cyanogenmod to a t mobile store to get some help with something. The guy asked how I made the phone look so different. I told him it was an app from Google Play. He believed me. (Technically that was true. He was commenting on the theme, which was an apk downloaded from google pkay)
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Why does everyone get warranty and insurance confused? When you file and insurance claim it does NOT matter if it's rooted, if you bricked it, or dropped it in water. You're paying the $175 deductible sobit doesn't matter. If it was a warranty exchange THEN you would have to return to stock since they only charged you $5 for an exchange.
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Get Triangle Away. Run the app FIRST. Then Odin back to stock. Make sure to do wipe....then its all good
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alloycowboy said:
Get Triangle Away. Run the app FIRST. Then Odin back to stock. Make sure to do wipe....then its all good
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TA will not reset the counter unless your on the stock Rom, kernel and recovery.
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alloycowboy said:
Get Triangle Away. Run the app FIRST. Then Odin back to stock. Make sure to do wipe....then its all good
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The Odin flash to stock always increases the binary counter for me. Triangle Away is used after all your Odining is done.
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Skipjacks said:
The Odin flash to stock always increases the binary counter for me. Triangle Away is used after all your Odining is done.
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Well I guess it must be different than the S3. Cause I have always did Triangle Away, then Odin. Counter was then zero.
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Skipjacks said:
Ha!
I once took a phone with Cyanogenmod to a t mobile store to get some help with something. The guy asked how I made the phone look so different. I told him it was an app from Google Play. He believed me. (Technically that was true. He was commenting on the theme, which was an apk downloaded from google pkay)
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I guess if you rooted, then used Rom Manager to put CM on there it would be an "app" that made your phone have Cyanogenmod after all.

elflip88 said:
Why does everyone get warranty and insurance confused? When you file and insurance claim it does NOT matter if it's rooted, if you bricked it, or dropped it in water. You're paying the $175 deductible sobit doesn't matter. If it was a warranty exchange THEN you would have to return to stock since they only charged you $5 for an exchange.
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Yup. If you broke your screen you are paying the 180 or whatever for a new phone. May as well tell them you lost the phone and keep your cracked one for Battery and what not. Even a good back up phone.
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tylerholbrook said:
Yup. If you broke your screen you are paying the 180 or whatever for a new phone. May as well tell them you lost the phone and keep your cracked one for Battery and what not. Even a good back up phone.
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It will not work as a backup phone. The IMEI will be blocked.
Also, while I get what you are saying and understand you are trying to suggest the most cost effective way to do something....what you are suggesting is insurance fraud and could be a felony.
Im not judging you because I agree the insurance company is dumb for making it advantageous to lie aboit what happened to a phobe. Im just saying you are advocating a crime. XDA tends to prefer that you don't do that here.
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It will not work as a backup phone. The IMEI will be blocked.
Also, while I get what you are saying and understand you are trying to suggest the most cost effective way to do something....what you are suggesting is insurance fraud and could be a felony.
Im not judging you because I agree the insurance company is dumb for making it advantageous to lie aboit what happened to a phobe. Im just saying you are advocating a crime. XDA tends to prefer that you don't do that here.
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I didn't meant to promote insurance fraud. I just always at least keep battery and when micro sim cards came with the phone 4 years ago. Figured paying 180 for a new phone should cover that but I get what you mean
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elflip88 said:
Why does everyone get warranty and insurance confused? When you file and insurance claim it does NOT matter if it's rooted, if you bricked it, or dropped it in water. You're paying the $175 deductible sobit doesn't matter. If it was a warranty exchange THEN you would have to return to stock since they only charged you $5 for an exchange.
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Thank you. I knew I wasn't looking for a warranty exchange cuz I cracked the screen too... So I knew I was gonna have to file a claim, and it does cover whatever you do to it, so it does make sense that messing with the system like that wouldn't matter. Thanks again. I don't even run custom roms, the s4 rooted is fine too me.
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