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Attention NOOBS. I'm becoming less patient with your posts that include whining and redundancy. This forum isn't here to provide you with all the comforts of your carrier. These roms and installing them is for people who are advanced users of WM. If you need your device for work and you're new to PocketPCs this isn't the place for you. These roms aren't for you so please stick to your carriers’ rom.
WM6 is new. SO NEW that Third-Party app developers haven't gotten all their fixes in. Our ROM chefs aren't responsible for those errors. Research and develop a fix, wait until someone develops a fix, or wait for the app developer...But before installing a rom you need to weigh whether or not it is worth it to loose some of your favorite apps. If you must have SPB plus and you read that people are having issues with it don't install the rom UNLESS you want to help find the fix. IF NOT...WAIT until the app developer upgrades their app. Don't install it and then post complaints and threads.
The chefs of these roms aren't here to help you setup your device and to solve all of your issues. If you have issues read, search and fix them. The research is part of the fun...finding fixes is part of the fun. Finding new ways to configure your device and setups is FUN. By asking first you're not participating in the best part of the forum.
As for fixing the "noob" issue...I think there is one pretty good solution.
I think the only way to fix such an issue is to either restrict new users from posting in the the WM6 forums for a period of time after joining. Hopefully you'll use that period of time to read. Because if you choose to install a rom and you know you can't ask a question you'll probably be more apt to read.
I'm not anti-noob. I was a noob once and I am still a noob in many ways. I also know that there are some good noobs in the forum. But I'm tired of taking the time to read the threads for critical information and coming across posts for how to install a new theme or where did the backlight on my keyboard go. That's where your user manual or the HTC website comes in. For Cingular people you have a great resource over @ the Cingular forums.
This is a community of like minded technical individuals. This is not HTC tech support or your carriers support. No one here owes you ANYTHING. You install a rom it's on you. If you can't take the responsibility then don't install the rom. It's pretty simple really.
I just had to get that off my chest. I'm sick and cranky but that only played a small role.
Again TIP YOUR CHEF!!!!! and donate to XDA. To all of you that make this a interactive vibrant technical-minded environment THANK YOU!
X (donning flame suit)
Helping is useless you just get bashed for it. Instead of putting useless programs that the "chef" uses they could spend that time using the carrier files located in the rom kitchen to help out users which takes all of what 3 minutes if that to recompile for a carrier. This would be much more productive then *****ing when someone tries to help by doing that. It's a joke suggesting someone help when they get nothing but grief and sarcasm when they do.
the time it takes to put "useless" apps in a rom is about 40 seconds.
99.9percent of the time is spent on optimizing the OS to ensure i runs efficiently and stable.
Carrier settings are a big no no as the ROMS being developed should be portable from one carrier to another. the perosn who installs the ROM should know what their carrier settings are etc.... not the ROM chefs.
EDIT: there is a fine line between "helping" (ie developing a fix and posting it in the official rom thread) as compared to re-releasing the hard work that went into optimizing wm6 etc and just adding one XML customization (what you did)
Also note, that recompiling a compressed ROM will cause issues to the people that have installed it. you must decompile the original OS.nb that hasnt been compressed.
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the time it takes to put "useless" apps in a rom is about 40 seconds.
99.9percent of the time is spent on optimizing the OS to ensure i runs efficiently and stable.
Carrier settings are a big no no as the ROMS being developed should be portable from one carrier to another. the perosn who installs the ROM should know what their carrier settings are etc.... not the ROM chefs.
EDIT: there is a fine line between "helping" (ie developing a fix and posting it in the official rom thread) as compared to re-releasing the hard work that went into optimizing wm6 etc and just adding one XML customization (what you did)
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Yes, you have proved you dont give a **** seeing you post the files that dont work
tell WPbear that and the hundreds of people that got cingular working with that.
And just to remind you its not my job to ensure u set up your carrier. You found a fix, damn mate, post it in the thread.
Although this is an open source community in a way, it is still harmful to the developrs if their work is ripped off without courtesy. ASk first then post later, not post first and hope its ok!
this matter of discussion will stop right now. by the fact that your posts were deleted by mods is a clear sign that you push the boundaries of helping.
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this matter of discussion will stop right now. by the fact that your posts were deleted by mods is a clear sign that you push the boundaries of helping.
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You must have missed the part where I could care less if they were or not? Who are you to say when this will or will not stop? I could care less if you have more pull here or not the forum is bullsit pulling favortism.
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Attention NOOBS. I'm becoming less patient with your posts that include whining and redundancy. This forum isn't here to provide you with all the comforts of your carrier. These roms and installing them is for people who are advanced users of WM. If you need your device for work and you're new to PocketPCs this isn't the place for you. These roms aren't for you so please stick to your carriers’ rom.
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Again TIP YOUR CHEF!!!!! and donate to XDA. To all of you that make this a interactive vibrant technical-minded environment THANK YOU!
X (donning flame suit)
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I agree with you that people shouldn't have complained too much on this and that regarding the ROMs cooked by our good fellows.
However I believe there is a better way pursuading people instead of yelling here, in this way you are not much different from those people.
Also you make sounds like it's a must to donate. Well I believe ROM chefs were doing this voluntarily without any intension to collect money. It would be nice for people to donate as a kind of support, but putting it this way may have make it sounds like there are financial motivations behind this ROM cooking thihg.
Anyway, well done CHEFs, keep it up.
AdamZhang said:
I agree with you that people shouldn't have complained too much on this and that regarding the ROMs cooked by our good fellows.
However I believe there is a better way pursuading people instead of yelling here, in this way you are not much different from those people.
Also you make sounds like it's a must to donate. Well I believe ROM chefs were doing this voluntarily without any intension to collect money. It would be nice for people to donate as a kind of support, but putting it this way may have make it sounds like there are financial motivations behind this ROM cooking thihg.
Anyway, well done CHEFs, keep it up.
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no its not a must to donate... but its nice to be appreciated especially when the 'CHEF' has spend hours upon hours of his time and experience to benefit the community... honestly where would we be without these guys??? we would have locked handsets and be stuck with crappy carrier ROM's...
Hmmm
The noobs who post the ridiculous questions that have been answered many times before are (by their very nature) highly unlikely to read or care about this thread.....
Whilst I agree with some of the underlying points (read the wiki and the threads, use the search function etc) surely the more people who get interested in these devices, the wider they will be available and the better support etc from the carriers and htc will be available, meaning people here can spend more time developing rather than fixing bugs? The initial post just reads as if basically if you are not an experienced developer then you can just **** off. Not sure if (a) that is how it was meant or (b) that is the majority view.
Me thinks that xultar and custel need to grow up! Although you both evidently came into this as experts(sic), some others did not have your apparent vast wealth of experience to fall back on. To insult senior members, mods, and our chefs is unacceptable behavior! I, and I am sure others, are hoping to see you go!
The search functions can be a bit of a challenge....LOL, but insults and criticism are not needed.....Do us all a favor and just leave!
Okay.....there's my 4 cents worth..........
Later
NOOBS are ok i guess, but I like like BOOBS much more! We need more BOOBS around here! ;-)
cruiserman said:
NOOBS are ok i guess, but I like like BOOBS much more! We need more BOOBS around here! ;-)
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Even better NOOBS with BOOBS,
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Even better NOOBS with BOOBS,
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... or boobs with noobs
ROFLMAO!!!
Same song, different forums. Yes, the noobs need to read the wiki and learn more, but we've all been there and need to remember what it was like getting yelled at in the forums. Yes, some of the "experts" think they're on a pedestal and can be huge jerks, but they've seen the same 10 questions about 1000 times and they help create noob resources like the wiki and the cool roms. Most of us are sitting in the middle just watching both sides screaming and thinking, "it's just a forum, wtf?"
I realize that the real issue began because of all the noobs bricking their phones trying to do things they don't fully understand and the animosity that comes from the ROM archive being removed as an indirect result. In case no one has noticed, this is not exactly an underground site and has become pretty popular with the increasing popularity of HTC products and the fine work that many of the contributors here have done. (Not to mention all the ppc sites that have linked to this one.)
The original post had some good points and I think was well-intended, however, Custel and Jasjamming decided to bring their personal beef with each other into it. If you two would like to argue with each other, feel free to use the private message function. Neither of you are helping this topic and only furthering the idea that a low post count means you're flame bait and a high post count means that you're allowed to tell people what they can and cannot post openly in the threads despite not being a mod. The moral here? We're all part of the same community here, so stop pissing on the neighbor's flowers and just tell him calmly that you're allergic while keeping in mind the other neighbors might like them.
As for the noobs destroying their phones with software they didn't understand and asking really simple over-asked questions, maybe we should make a quiz of basic information that pertains to each model and the information needed to do basic mods to them that all members have to answer with a certain percentage of success before allowing posts or access to download links (exluding a few basic forums). Each group that's active enough could make up their own pop quiz (Hermes, Trinity, etc...). All questions sourced from the wiki of course. Just a thought, since the only other suggestion seems to be to scream at the new guys and tell them to read (and search, which btw, really sucks on most forums since you have to know exactly what you're searching for to find anything useful in many cases).
having successfully upgraded several different models of HTC device to WinMo6 I know that there's very little risk from the process and a hell of a lot to gain.
Nobody here with a new-ish handset that's considering the upgrade is destitute and penniless, considering what the devices cost I'm beginning to wonder why donations to either the chefs or XDA devs isn't the norm...
Seriously, there are a lot of tight bastards around here, more than there are 'new' users who can't be arsed to use the search before opening the 30th thread asking for help on the exact same issue.
Post from a NOOB
Guys,
Let me give you a viewpoint from a NOOB. I would not call myself technically challenged nor lazy, but definitely new to this wonderful forum where some people who are way more cooler than me have found ways to help me make better use of my handheld than what I had stock.
Yes, I read the Hermes wiki checked through all (or the threads I thought were relevant) to make sure that this was something I wanted to (and could) do without bricking my expensive device. Even though I thought I read quite a lot, and did everything the wiki said, after I did something I could not verify whether what I did worked or not (like the time I SuperCID-ed my phone and did not know what the steps where to confirm it happened). So I ask. Some times people answer my questions, sometime they dont.
Yes, noobs need to know not to quote large message chunks, they need to read before they ask. I agree to all that. But some people say things like if you are not technical dont even bother to be here, that's insulting.
Though I read and re-read Xultar's initial post and I did not see anything there that really insulted me. I think he had a valid point that if you think you are faint of heart, please stick to your carrier's forum. These forums and this great site is for those adventurers (it just gives me an ego boost to think that way ;-)) who like to go where no man has gone before.
I have been here probably 2 weeks, and I feel like I found a place where I can belong. I just wish I were cool enough to really cook some ROMS. But I think I can get started in small ways.
Jasjamming, I understand your frustration when people take what you have taken great pains in doing and then repackage it, especially without your permission. No excuses for that. But it does not behoove for someone of your stature in this community to bad mouth people. I (and am sure more noobs like me) look up to people like you, kyphur and LVSW who can do things that most of us can just dream about. Just let go or I am sure that the moderators of this forum can remove those posts without much problem.
Sorry for the long rant, but I like this place. And felt I had to weigh in on this conversation.
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You must have missed the part where I could care less if they were or not? Who are you to say when this will or will not stop? I could care less if you have more pull here or not the forum is bullsit pulling favortism.
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its not about pulling favoritism, its about respect... if you want to use someone else's work for your own then ask permission from the creator and give credit where credits due... the chefs work hard on what they do, kyphur, jasjamming, etc.. all of them.. spend countless hours developing cooked roms for everyone, donations or not.. If you dont like the rules of the community then there are other boards you can point your browser to. Most of the times when you ask permission then the chef will be more than happy to lend you a hand...
Now everyone play nice or find a different board.
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its not about pulling favoritism, its about respect... if you want to use someone else's work for your own then ask permission from the creator and give credit where credits due... the chefs work hard on what they do, kyphur, jasjamming, etc.. all of them.. spend countless hours developing cooked roms for everyone, donations or not.. If you dont like the rules of the community then there are other boards you can point your browser to. Most of the times when you ask permission then the chef will be more than happy to lend you a hand...
Now everyone play nice or find a different board.
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Please delete this thread. I'll send a PM to a Mod as well.
Thanks.
Hi Guys,
Anyone have a link to the latest official HTC Diamond rom?
Cheers
Paul
yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
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yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
I've seen a few links in other posts of this forum to the latest version. I think you can find them with Search - don't remember exactly where they were.
Here is all the new roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I read two site back and find this, u must remember that if you need something and you dont find it in the FIRST page look at the next page. The answer can be there..
just a tip
That being the case, it's not really the *official* version that you want. You want the latest release to update your ignito branded unit. Precise communications make things so much easier, eh?
Simple friendly answers are common, as long as evidence indicates that you searched first. If you don't understand why people are touchy about this, please read any of the notes about posting to forums. They will explain. Briefly, the 1% of people that provide most of the help are exhausted from repeating themselves. They'd like to move on to new things. Hence the search features of forums. Yes, it takes a while to find exactly what you need. We've all been through it. Others are expected to do the same.
This is not a slam towards you, this is a simple, friendly answer. If you find it abrasive, you weren't listening.
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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paulrgod said:
What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
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NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
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Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
paulrgod said:
Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
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Sorry I have not got an answer for you but your right, its funny how the people who contribute nothing feel they have to make up for it by acting self important.
Personaly I think that simply not replying to your post if it offended them so much would have been more polite but obviosly good manners are not well known here.
I suppose that it gives them some sort of meaning, I would not worry about it though, just log in to download files like I do and let the blow hards do the "big I am" routine and stroke there own ego's.
THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
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THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
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Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
The poor guy just isn't really into forums (both reading and posting, in that order ) and ROM upgrading...
What we can only hope for is that he either:
- learns from all of this, starts reading about reading forums, posting in forums and ROM upgrading (including HardSPL/SoftSPL) and succesfully flashes a new ROM, gets the hang of it, starts cooking his own ROMs and contributes to the xda-developer community (maybe even telling some newbies how to use the forum)
or
- he reads all comments, decides he doesn't like us and forgets aboud flashing and even about xda-developers
I definetely prefer the first option!
Come on guys, don't take it too serious!
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Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
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Owh...
The frustration!
Ahaha he wrote 2 lines cuz i write Brock instead of Brick.
U r without arguments man
Maybe u can edit your signature so every1 here know u are already on a cooked ROM.
Omg I write ROM un uppercase... this is angry behaviour from my side. Sorry.
So u r able to GRAB
And u r able to ASK
Y don't u think about contribute? Or donating? Just a lil'... be4 asking.
I'm off, this discusison don't deserve anymore time
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RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship, I hope the following will help:
• RUU_Diamond_HTC: This is an official rom by the manufacture (Hence HTC) for the Diamond aka Ignito amongst other names.
• WWE: Worldwide English.
• ME: Middle East, This is the region part in this case Middle East. In this example, the rom supports WWE and Middle Eastern setting, things like language support, radio type which relates to the network provider specs. From my humble experience, the ME and AR(the later stands for Arabic) specs are the same as European specs.
• 1.93.456.2: (1.93) rom version, latest in this case. (456) region, in this case Middle East. (2), latest patch,, the higher the better.
• Singned_Diamond: The rom will only mount on a Diamond singed with HTC’s own certificate. In other words, the rom will not work on branded Diamonds, like T mobile MDA or O2 XDA, hence the need for hard spl to flash an HTC rom on branded telephone.
• 52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05: Radio version. Most Important factor in reception, GPS and battery life amongs other things.
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Thanks a lot Omar - thats very useful information.
@ paul:
first, did you noticed the phrase "developers" in the URL? Perhaps you did expect the wrong community...
But nevertheless we could/should help each other, so try this thread if you didn't found it already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I guess you get what you are looking for with this linked upload:
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.2_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship
When I joined this forum, just like you (OP) I never really got any help from anyone here. I did all the searching I need but end up still needing to ask few questions here and there but no one would help me. Now I learned my lesson... you just need to read through the hundreds of pages of information here. It took me five days to understand on my own how to flash the radio. But its just me. I guess I'm slowww. But NO I'm not. I'm just a newbie and newbies are always told to "SEARCH". Your on your own buddy.
Still, XDA Forum rocks.
Xda developers community,
Here I sit at the end of approximately 78 hours of a joyfully sleep deprived journey of pure tech excitement. It all started with my two month old G1 Dream, which I am crazy about, suddenly began to annoy me with its ridiculously small internal memory. I offered my dilemma to the overlord of infinite knowledge, Google, and all roads kept leading me here. I began to read, found answers,and developed the uncontrollable urge to join the action. I've read, rooted, rommed, wiped, re-rooted, re-rommed, nearly bricked, cried, picked myself up, read some more, fixed, and utterly tweaked my G1 into a steroid laced technological work of art. Twice I wanted to ask questions but fought my hands away from the keyboard as I read the seemingly harsh and usually condescending replies as my fellow noobs received. Quick and deadly were the Chinese stars of sarcasm as they split their heads open, ending each post with "you would have found this if you'd just taken the time to read the forum". Each one of them ending in that little blue "Link of Shame" they provide linking you right to the detailed answer that was posted like two weeks ago. Not me....no sir! I decided to read and discover the what lies within for myself. I'm so glad I did too because I've learned more about my G1 here in three days than all my accumulated phone knowledge combined. This place is a tech-rebels think tank of knowledge from some really knowledgeable people. Everything I studied and tried was 100% accurate and easy to follow. Thanks to all of you for sharing your discoveries with all of us "Noobs" out here. I'm hooked on XDA! Sleep.....we don't need sleep where we're going....STANDBY FOR REBOOT!!
Welcome to forums
Great and nice words of introduction
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!!
Enjoy this great forum! Read, Search, and Happy Flashing
That has to be the best first post I've ever read....
Congrats on all that you've learned.
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Welcome to the "family" I too followed your process....
So 'cool' yet spending way to much free time will be the thing to look out for....
Really, Your post is outstanding....wish it could be on all ROM's 1st page...
PM me if you ever need to...DID you know to click on the persons name (top left of their post) to PM them and/or see all their postings....a quick way to get help I have found....
Nice post and welcome to the forums!
We were all "noobs" once mate, at least you did the right thing and read up.
Far too many "users" here just want answers, finding them for yourself is far more satisfying.
So now you've read up on the Billions of pages and dug your way through the hundreds of forums, when will you be releasing your first Rom?
LoL
Welcome to the forums mate, may you be stuck here forever like the rest us!
Cheers,
Beasty
Welcome to your Home!!!
That's similar to what I experienced sometimes. But if you read and read and then you ask about something that "is there" and you did not find, I think nobody will throw you to the lions.
Now, enjoy... and help make this site greater !
I'm a carrier for the XDA virus....
I raced to the office today to ignore the growing pile of work on my desk, darted past my idiot boss mumbling something about deadlines or some crap, and sat down to start the day off with a triple espresso and a theme flash straight from the XDA threads. As I waited for my phone to reboot I started feeling the sharp pinch of conviction. All day long people, myself included, run to the elite developers of XDA for endless advice on flashing, features, firmware,roots, roms, and recovery screens and freely download to their hearts content. Then strut around showing everyone there phones as if they were some sort of underworld hackers. But does anyone stop to think about all the endless hours or trial and error, defeat, lines of code, complaints, and everything else that goes into these works of art? Each day I learn a little something more and gain a deeper insight on the hard work that so many put in so that I can carry around my super fast , fully loaded, and ready to tether G1 each day. Allthough I really dont think these folks do what they do for fame or fortune, I still feel like I need to give credit where obvious credit is due. Thanks for the hard work, warm welcomes, and dead on advice I recieve each day here. And the flavor of the day today is an RC29 build, Cyanogen pimped out recovery and his latest update, very nice "Black Ice" theme, and a phone I cant seem to put down. Oh crap...here comes that jack a** boss of mine and my boot loader is stuck in a loop. I gotta start establishing better priorities.......like getting up and closing my office door so I can wipe and reflash this bad boy!!
Hihi.. nice writing.
Welcome on board.
Grtz Leo
Hey everyone.
First of all, I have to apologize for posting a new thread; I still haven't reached 8 posts, so just had to start a new one.
I'm having my Wildfire around a month, and I was really avoiding getting close to Android Technical Stuff or similar things; but it's almost 4 days that I'm trying to Upgrade the phone to move to Gingerbread.
Believe it or not, I've almost downloaded 750 MBs of data! and reading lots of tutorials, but still getting to nowhere. Probably a part is that I'm afraid the phone goes bricked and losing it is a pain in the ass for such a dummy in case of Android!
I'm pretty sure all the driver are correctly installed, nothing with a yellow Triangle (Thanks God!) in DveMan.
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When tryin to gain S-OFF using Revolutionary, it shows a message like the attachment down there:
"Your device: buzz with HBOOT 1.01.0002 is not supported this time. Press almost.... "
While I've read it works fine with versions later than 1.01.x. Do I really need to downgrade it? I just need a pro advising me to do that, cause no one likes a damaged phone or help me out if there's another option..
After first trials, I learned to anticipate the methods not working! Now I'm such an Iron Man to the failures BTW, I definitely appreciate your help with this. OQ
You have to downgrade to 1.01.0001 in that case, unfortunately. There is a guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132028
Yes, you have to download 140MB again, unfortunately.
"Wildfire Root, S-OFF
Man, was that complete index your work? That's a huge content. Good job, that was really comprehensive.
No problem, I guess I'll have to buy some more gig$ before the internet subscription finishes! I gotta download that.
Thanks a lot.
lol, it turned that huge when I tried to make it as comprehensive as possible, as you stated. I should have reserved 10 posts, so to make 1 point in 1 post, but I guess its too late. (And I didn't reserve posts because it started out as just a Custom ROMs List, nothing else)
Thank you though.
Well, that's much better since scrolling up & down through posts can sometimes be confusing; in case some other users may interrupt the process.
P.s. I gotta get back soon with more questions
G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
rodbacon said:
G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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I hate to be the one to break it down to you but the best way is lurking around. There are separate threat for all major US carrier. You can start in there to see what type of Rom/mod turns you on original Android development is mainly kenerls both AOSP and sense and some AOSP ROMS . The best piece of advice I can give you is go S-Off (if you are not allready) if you want to get into modding it s gonna make your life a hole lot easier.
Hope it helps
May the roms be with you.
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
rodbacon said:
G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
kuss587 said:
May the roms be with you.
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*drum roll*
badboy47 said:
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
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dankaren said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
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I appreciate those links. I'll start there for sure.
rodbacon said:
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
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I got the same one too! I would S-Off asap if its possible with the version of hboot!
There's also nothing better than trying out different ROMs and even xposed modules. For me google play edition ROMs are for me.
I also used VomerGuides when i started, and i would suggest you go for a Sense Rom to start with, e.g. ARHD or ViperOne.
Dude, you are NOT alone. (But, yes, wrong section...LOL).
My pearls of wisdom for you, from one noob to another:
Get used to using adb. Basically, install fastboot and adb (you'll see reference to these in the guides linked in the posts above), and you run adb through your cmd window. Whatever files (zip/img) you need to push to the m8, place those in your adb folder and then just run your command window from that folder...makes things really easy.
Also, if you try to get all fancy and convert your m8 into the GPE m8 (which is what I did), I'm pretty sure the standard OTAs you'll get upon reboot break your root (and recovery), so just keep that in mind. I was planning on letting the phone auto-update to lollipop, but I think I'd prefer having the tweaks from custom roms, so I'm here now scoping those out.
If you have any questions, though, feel free to PM me, and I'll do my best to help! I agree, though, that for non-coders, the m8 modding is more intimidating than the modding was for other phones I've owned
With a handle like "Rodbacon" you are allowed to poste questions wherever you like