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Hi all, I'm looking to buy either the XDA IIs or the PDA2K. Firstly, which one would you all recommend?
Secondly, my main reason for wanting this is that I have a phone and a Blackberry today (connecting to my companies Blackberry email server). If I go with one of these, will I still be able to collect my company email or do I have to use O2's email service and forward my work mails to it?
For those of you who have used a Blackberry before, how does the BB features on these devices compare? Is it easy to use etc..
Thanks in advance.
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Hi all, I'm looking to buy either the XDA IIs or the PDA2K. Firstly, which one would you all recommend?
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There is no difference in the hardware between the XDAIIs and PDA2k except cosmetic differences. the PDA2K is silver and the XDAIIs is black
The differences are in the ROMs which are shipped with each unit, however if you read this site you can find ways of installing different ROMs onto different suppliers machines
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Secondly, my main reason for wanting this is that I have a phone and a Blackberry today (connecting to my companies Blackberry email server). If I go with one of these, will I still be able to collect my company email or do I have to use O2's email service and forward my work mails to it?
For those of you who have used a Blackberry before, how does the BB features on these devices compare? Is it easy to use etc..
Thanks in advance.
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There are mixed reports regarding blackberry support. Some people report it as working fine with Blackberry Connect for Internet mail, whilst others report its not working. As long as your BES server supports the client, and your price plan will allow you to connect to a corporate BES server, then there should be no problem.
Personally, I've not been able to get it going, mainly due to having to convince the company to add me to the BES server and also with getting the software talking to the desktop manager.
Thanks for your reply. Yes my first question was mainly around the software but if you can install from one to another etc. then great as from what I have read the PDA2K has newer drivers etc.. for the radio.
The Blackberry piece is what concerns me the most as this is the main reason for getting it.
One final point, I urrently have an iPaq in the car with TOMTOM3 on. Can I put TOMTOM3 on the XDA ok as well?
From your experience, should I buy one of these devices or wait for something better to come out? I head there may be a smaller version of the PDA2K down the line?
Blackberry Attachment Limits (Caveat Emptor)
Just to add to the debate I am on the T-Mobile BB Instant Email flavour service not BES.
It has now become apparent that attachments received or sent using the BB Instant service on my MDA III (i.e. XDA 2s/PDA 2K etc) cannot be above 36kb or something like that. Also it cannot handle scanned documents etc. In my job I deal with 50 page plus word documents so this is a killer.
T-Mobile informed me that they weren't aware of this limitation when selling me my price plan. To be fair they are being very helpful and their customer service is excellent.
We have discussed putting me onto my corporate server (Vodafone BES) which can apparently easily be done (provided we have a licence at the Server level). I will have to see what our IT guy says about that ! :wink: There is also a charge though on the device side of £35 per month (the instant email is £10).
T-Mobile are also checking whether there are any inherent device/software restrctions on attachments on either the Instant Email or Enterprise service. I cannot believe this is an inherent device issue, as Rim hardware is much less sophisticated than the Pocket PC version.
The moral of the story is check the small print and the service very carefully.
Anyone's help and advice would be appreciated.
J
Can I put TOMTOM3 on the XDA ok as well?
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TOMTOM3 work fine on my XDA2s - that's why I bought one rtathaer than any other phone; I wanted a PDA & phone all-in-one that could support a SatNav system
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 08:41 Post subject: Looking to buy, need advice on Blackberry features please
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Hi all, I'm looking to buy either the XDA IIs or the PDA2K. Firstly, which one would you all recommend?
Secondly, my main reason for wanting this is that I have a phone and a Blackberry today (connecting to my companies Blackberry email server). If I go with one of these, will I still be able to collect my company email or do I have to use O2's email service and forward my work mails to it?
For those of you who have used a Blackberry before, how does the BB features on these devices compare? Is it easy to use etc..
Thanks in advance.
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I currently have an xdaIIs, which I got a great deal on with O2, but in hindsight and if you can afford it, I would probably go with the PDA2K. Reasons? Well it appears that iMate are quicker to come out with ROM updates and fixes and it seems as a result these device are a bit more stable out of the box. The xda IIs with O2 Active interface on is particularly unstable and O2 (and most everyone on this forum) recommends using this device in 'corporate mode" This is simply done by selecting the corporate mode option when prompted toward the end of the set up process. This deactivates the O2 Active interface and makes the device more stable (i.e. less soft resets needed)
On Blackberry service, I had used it exyensively on my old xda II with T-Mobile USA. I was using the BWC rather than BES version and found it to be very fast and reliable. A couple of problems with it that I found:
1. Could not get any attachemnets to download form the T-Mobile Server
2. The "Sounds and Notifications" function was very poor. You could not set an audible, repeating alert on the device, as the blackberry client did not show up as an option in the sounds and notifications settings dialogue box..
There have been a lot of fos try to install the Blackberry CAB files on the XDA IIs, without much success of making them work. There are certainly some integration issues to ovbercome here with the device and the Blackberry client. Some sevice providers are including it in there ROM and supporting it now, but many are still not. O2 have been working for some time on a new ROM for the XDA IIs, but its release has been delayed again as there are still issues with the Blackberry client integration. Latest I heard is that it will not be out before July at this point... In the meantime, I use Smartners "Always on Mail" web client (www.alwaysonmail.com) as an alternative. You can try it free for 2 months and its $49 per year thereafter. It supports attachments and is almost as fast as Blackberry (18 seconds slower per message on random tests I have done). Also gives you the ability to set a repeating audible alert. I would say the service if pretty reliable overall, although some users have noted that it occasionally does not forward a message. I have had a couple like that and it appears that some spam filtering is going on somewhere. Altogether though a pretty good altrenative and a fair beit cheaper.
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris
T-Mobile BB Instant Email Attachments
See my mail above. Although I am speaking about the UK the same will no doubt apply to T-Mobile US.
What it comes down to is this - support for attachments is very limited on the BB Instant Email Connect Service. You need to do your homework very thoroughly before signing up.
In its favour - if you are just receiving emails without attachments or simple rtf attachments you will be fine.
As I keep saying learn from my mistakes and check out the usage restrictions on the service very carefully.
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J
My company has a BES server so I just need to connect it to that. Does that work?
I keep hearing people say that they have the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC on these devices. Are any of them the English version and could you please post a link here?
Thanks a Bunch!
Raptor
For the xda II or xda IIs..??
XDA III iMate PDA 2K aka Siemens Sx66
No, sorry :-[ Latest I heard from O2 is that itwould be July, as they were still experiencing some issues with the integration of the Blackberry software with the xda IIs ROM...
It seems the T-Mobile MDA III in germany may have it now, so hopefully we won't be far away.
In the meantime try Smartners push mail (www.alwaysonmail.com) for siimilar functionality (free 2 month trial) Use this in conjunction with pocketmax AlarmToday, which has a WM 2003 wake up fix so the mail gets through even when the device is off.
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
Thanks, but I need Blackberry, trying to turn my all in one device (iMate PDA 2K into an all in one device and quit carrying multiple devices on my belt...
Yes, thats what I do. All my group use Blackberry's. I keep that address and just have the e-mails forwarded to the account smartner uses and then respond from the PPC..
T-Mobile UK Released Blackberry months ago/News Rom Update
Just to clear up the confusion T-Mobile UK launched Blackberry Connect (called Instant Email in T-Mobile speak) on the MDA III months ago.
They have stolen a march on all the UK Operators on the MDAIII. The update is unofficial (in that they have been posting it out on request).
The Rom was uploaded to Wiki. As yet I don't believe anyone has it working with a non T-Mobile device.
I only wish they would be as frequent with the ROM updates. However I am told a new ROM update is imminent (my contact says end June).
Here's hoping as it is my birthday soon.... :wink:
We have a mix of Blackberry users and Good Technology users. Good Technology has a product that IMHO run circles around RIM. The server software works almost exactly the same as the BES (encrypted push technology), but the cost for the server is $0.00 (unlike the BES which can range from $1,500 to over $3,000) and it is specifically designed for PocketPCs with Wifi, PocketPC Phones and the Palm Treo. The client is a 1 or 2 year subscription which comes out to about $28.00 a month for 12 months. With my t-mobile umlimited data plan @$29.00 a month, it roughly comes out to around the same as the monthly blackberry service.
The Good client has it's own email, calendar, notes and tasks applications that is a wireless direct sync to your exchange server mailbox (no active sync required). You can tell it to add additional email folders to sync, not just the inbox, outbox and send items. It shows you every email folder in your mailbox, but will only show the emails if you either move the mail from the good client, or you have setup the folder for sync. My PDA2K phone app goes right into the good contacts or I can click on a phone number in an email or in my contacts and directly call the number. If you have any contact public folders, it will allow you to add them to your contacts application. It also lets you backup the client on to PDA storage or a card. If you do a hard reset, it takes minutes to reinstall using the recovery backup.
If your interested in this, you can go to www.good.com to get more information.
If your IT department has any reservations about this, let me know. I am the Director of IT for my company and swear by this. Their Customer Service and support are fantasic, the units are easy to setup and I have literally gone on to my Good Server twice in the last twelve months (the two times was to do the server upgrades which are also free AND easy)
Sorry if I sound like a sales rep, but this is a great piece of software.
Thanks for the info Tekhound. But my company has already invested in a BES server that has been running for some time and they won't change it.
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We have a mix of Blackberry users and Good Technology users. Good Technology has a product that IMHO run circles around RIM. The server software works almost exactly the same as the BES (encrypted push technology), but the cost for the server is $0.00 (unlike the BES which can range from $1,500 to over $3,000) and it is specifically designed for PocketPCs with Wifi, PocketPC Phones and the Palm Treo. The client is a 1 or 2 year subscription which comes out to about $28.00 a month for 12 months. With my t-mobile umlimited data plan @$29.00 a month, it roughly comes out to around the same as the monthly blackberry service.
The Good client has it's own email, calendar, notes and tasks applications that is a wireless direct sync to your exchange server mailbox (no active sync required). You can tell it to add additional email folders to sync, not just the inbox, outbox and send items. It shows you every email folder in your mailbox, but will only show the emails if you either move the mail from the good client, or you have setup the folder for sync. My PDA2K phone app goes right into the good contacts or I can click on a phone number in an email or in my contacts and directly call the number. If you have any contact public folders, it will allow you to add them to your contacts application. It also lets you backup the client on to PDA storage or a card. If you do a hard reset, it takes minutes to reinstall using the recovery backup.
If your interested in this, you can go to www.good.com to get more information.
If your IT department has any reservations about this, let me know. I am the Director of IT for my company and swear by this. Their Customer Service and support are fantasic, the units are easy to setup and I have literally gone on to my Good Server twice in the last twelve months (the two times was to do the server upgrades which are also free AND easy)
Sorry if I sound like a sales rep, but this is a great piece of software.
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Hi Tekhound
Sounds interesting... Does Good Server support showing messages as D delivered and R read, in the same way as the RIM pagers do?
Regards
Chris
Thanks Tekhound, I agree, GoddLink service is fantastic. I was using Good on my xda III when I worked @ Cingular and had only high remarks for it. Unfortunately when leaving for one of the parent companies they only use BES so GoodLink service is not an option.
And BTW, no no delivered, read, delete receipts as RIM devices.
Raptor
Chris...
I'm not sure exactly how the rim pager does it, but I will tell you how the goodlink works:
Since the client by default syncs the Inbox, Outbox, Deleted Items and Sent Items from the Exchange mailbox, it works EXACTLY like Outlook. Once you compose a message and hit send, it goes to the outbox and the client checks to see if it has a connection to the net (keeping in mind that the current version supports regular PocketPCs with WiFi as well as PocketPC Phones). When the message is successfully sent, it puts a copy of the message into the sent items folder of the PDA. While all of this is going on with the PDA, the good server is updating the mailbox itself. I tested one day and it normally updated the mailbox within 2 minutes of makes changes on the PDA, with as little as one signal bar.
If you read a message in the PDA, it marks it as read in Outlook and vice versa. Same goes for deleting messages, but unlike outlook, it does not have a permenant delete. It will go into the deleted items folder in both the PDA and outlook when you delete it from goodlink. The good thing though is that unlike the RIM, the goodlink server understands permenant deleted items and will not orphan messages like the RIM. My policy is that all of my staff have the checkbox for "empty deleted items folder" upon exiting outlook EXCEPT for my RIM users because the way the BES operates.
Options in a new goodlink email message includes the options for Delvery Receipt, Read Receipt, High, Normal and Low importance on version 3.7 up to the current version 4.0. Accept, Tentative and Deny options are available on goodlink for things like meeting requests. I have not checked whether a task request works the same way.
You have your Outlook contacts sync wirelessly as well as the ability to do a LDAP lookup in your exchange global address list. A nice feature is that it not only remembers those you lookup like the RIM, but it also remembers everyone you receive a message from kinda like the autocomplete feature in outlook, but it's also available in the contacts list and not just in the new message.
I will stop this book now in the hopes I have answered your questions. Please let me know if you want any further information. As I mentioned in the earlier post, the server is free, so your only investment is a machine that will run Windows NT, 2000 or 2003 and the OS license. It doesn't have to be this powerful machine. You could use a PIII with 512 of RAM if you wanted. I actually have both my BES and my Good Server on two VMs (Virtual Machines) running on a PIII single processor Dell Blade Server with 1GB of RAM. They run smooth as silk with no problems.
Hi There!
I'm new on this page. Joined here because i have special question and my search on the web didn't lead to any solution.
I got the Samsung i900v omnia with windows mobile 6.1 and would like to improve the privacy concearning sms / email inbox fotos or the list of my recent calls.
The phone has a general password which switches on after a while. But that locks the whole thing. For example I might want my girlfriend to be able to use my omnia for a call or to check something on the web, but she shouldn't have access to all of my data.
I've tested skb mobile safety suite 2.02. but its all to complicated, it seems they want to put a whole new operating system over my phone.
i would be satisfied if the normal password check would occur if certain funktions are activated - which i could select upfront.
If anyone has a solution, i would be very happy. Right now my omnia hasn't been much fun to me yet.
Thx & Cheers
Roman
I brought a HTC HD7 this morning and after setting it up, i noticed 2 dead pixels, i returned it and swapped it for a new device (which is fine)
BUT i now cannot setup my Windows Live account on the phone, and it is asking for a Windows Live Activation Code.
O2 do not know what this is.
HTC do not know what this is.
Doesnt anyone know where i can get one, or how to contact microsoft in the UK, or just any information about it?
Could try here:
http://windowslivehelp.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-gb/howto/support.aspx
Dunno if they'll help much though...there's also the Facebook page you could spam lol:
http://www.facebook.com/windowsphoneuk
Casey
I have a "Microsoft Answers" question here http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/bb66fdc6-61f5-4a9a-91ad-56b2013ed5c3 and it just seems to be leading to a issue with Microsoft?
First day teething issues?
Was so cheesed off it didnt work out of the box i called all the MS teams under the sun and no one knows anything about it.
Ive just had mine sorted by Avinash Kumar at Ms customer service, on 0844 800 2400
His email is [email protected]
another option might be to go to live.com and go to your devices and un-register the first phone, don't know if that will work but maybe...
Ok it turns out its a product key issues
If you phone Avinash Kumar at Ms customer service, on 0844 800 2400 (menu item 4 or 5 that you have the name of the person - its technical customer service)
they will generate a new product key for you.
Then its done.
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Ok it turns out its a product key issues
If you phone Avinash Kumar at Ms customer service, on 0844 800 2400 (menu item 4 or 5 that you have the name of the person - its technical customer service)
they will generate a new product key for you.
Then its done.
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Cool glad it worked for you, it hacked me right off when it didnt work out of the box
Picked up a HTC 7 Trophy today and having the same issue it son Vodafone so i guess just ring that guy and he will sort it ??. Or do i need to go back to the shop
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Picked up a HTC 7 Trophy today and having the same issue it son Vodafone so i guess just ring that guy and he will sort it ??. Or do i need to go back to the shop
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Just give the number a call and they will sort out the login issue, Vodafone cant do anything.
activation code for hd7
me also want to have activation code to access live services for HD7. Can anybody help me in this ?
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me also want to have activation code to access live services for HD7. Can anybody help me in this ?
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See Casey_boy's post above. The second link will probably be your best bet.
that didn't take long at all, the rep was helpful, just asked for name, phone number, & email address. placed me on hold, then came back with the product key.
All,
Why all the fuss to Chevron Unlock or any other hack when you can just register it as a developer phone and unlock it officially for free????
Oh, maybe you all didn't know about the free part, maybe that is the piece of magic everyone is seeking...
Here is how to register your phone as a developer phone FOR FREE....
1. Get and verify a Dreamspark account. Two options here....
a. If you are a student with an email address ending in .edu just go to www.dreamspark.com, register and verify the email address.
2. Create an Apphub account and link it to your Dreamspark LiveId.
a. After Dreamspark is verified, go to http://create.msdn.com/en-US/ register your Windows Live ID and signup as a student. It will ask if you have a verified Dreamspark account, follow the steps to link the two accounts. (I didn't take screenshots but intuitive)
3. Populate your required profile information to the point that "My Dashboard-->My Windows Phone" does not show any more pending tasks.
a. You MUST go through the process to submit a "DummyApp" for Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows MarketPlace before Geotrust will send you the email to verify your identity. Just put "Dummyapp for id verification" in the notes sections. You will have to upload a .cab and a bunch of icons that all have to be sized properly. Just take a .png file and resize it a bunch of times and upload it. Doesn't matter what it is.
b. Geotrust will send an email requesting you to verify some info. I received it about 10 minutes after submitting my app, but could take 24 hours. I answered 4 questions, and then about 2 hours later Apphub took off the "identity verification pending" alert.
c. I also submitted my bank account info, but not sure if this was necessary.
4. Download the Windows phone developer tools from here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=04704acf-a63a-4f97-952c-8b51b34b00ce
5. Run the Windows Phone Developer Registration tool. Sign in with Windows Live ID you registered at AppHub, connect your phone and make sure it is not screen locked, viola, Windows 7 Phone now unlocked. And you can unlock 2 other Windows 7 phones too for a total of 3 phones.
Total process took less than 24 hours due to waiting on Geotrust and MS confirm.
-Paul
This is only for students,so its not really an option for everyone
Sent from my 7 Pro T7576 using Board Express
Follow the link on 1B above if you are not a student or do not have a .edu email address. Works just fine.
Paul_Hammons said:
Follow the link on 1B above if you are not a student or do not have a .edu email address. Works just fine.
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I assume he ment that Dreamspark is for students that cannot afford the software but can bring in revenue to Microsoft with the program and games they create. So, if you signup under the guise of a student, you can kind of defrauding Microsoft. But I guess that is a moral issue, so most people may not care. But, there are also schools and online classes that do not provide any sort of educational email addresses, so having a way to gain access as someone studying and taking classes, is nice. So, in those cases I think its ok. I personally use a Austraila.edu email since my online classes didn't provide anything. But, this might be a nice way to get an unlock if you are NoDo and can Go(do) back.
I keep getting the following error when I get to step 2a:
WE’RE SORRY. AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED.
We have detected an error while processing the page you were looking for. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please try again.
View App Hub FAQ
A01/7J9W
Any ideas what that is?
EDIT: weird.... I just tried it again (for the fourth time) and it worked. So if you get the above error, just keep trying.
I live in country that App hub does not support. Can anyone help me please?
AppHub confirmation step3 is disabled and NEXT button not working
Hmmm only have one problem.
You have to submit an APP and does it come up in marketplace ?.
Dont know how to get a "Dummy APP" to put on market for Winmobile 6.5 or 7.
If you can just put in a random app witch does not get in marketplace then i guess its no problem.
*edit*
Made a Winphone 7 app that does not have any purpose, lets check what happens
All this works.
Sadly I failed the geotrust verification, so I have to send a signed document with a copy of my national ID. Let's hope they believe my history about living in the states but having a ID of another country.
All works fine until i had to verify my account after publishing the dummy app. But now verifying failed and i have to send them my copy of id etc. But how the hell could i send them my info when i give them fake ( generated ) info?
FJosep said:
All this works.
Sadly I failed the geotrust verification, so I have to send a signed document with a copy of my national ID. Let's hope they believe my history about living in the states but having a ID of another country.
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I just said im not from the states but im allowed to have a free marketplace account since im dreamspark verified so this is my dutch passport and it was fine, no lies and we dont have a marketplace either. I had to sign it as well its a 5 minute job and if it takes to long you can open up a chat session and they will process it straight away. I think they are not even reading it haha, i started a chatsession didnt say a word, signed off and minute late got the you are verifie mail.
Man please how did you send them that letter? Can you show me some screenshot how it looks like ? x)
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Man please how did you send them that letter? Can you show me some screenshot how it looks like ? x)
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hmmmm ........... APP HUB stops me at create account?
Is the page flawed?
So has anyone else confirmed they have unlocked their phone following this process? I see a few of you working toward it.
-Paul
This worked for me. I can unlock up to 3 devices. Only used one so far.
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
This worked for me. I can unlock up to 3 devices. Only used one so far.
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can you share to me one so i can also unlock mine?lol
moonshines said:
can you share to me one so i can also unlock mine?lol
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Sadly it'd require me giving you my Windows Live ID & password, which I'm not exactly fond of lol. You need to enter it into the unlocker tool installed on the pc the device is connected to. Just folow the information giving by the OP closely with your real information (don't make up a fake ID) & it'll work. It took a couple hrs for me to finally get verified.
Where is 1B?
Removed..?!
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Man please how did you send them that letter? Can you show me some screenshot how it looks like ? x)
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No because it contains my id and autograph.
But its very simple, just print the mail they snend you, fill in everything add a copy of your id, scan it and email it back. Its not even a letter, just add what i said above as your motivation.
Did you received the email from geotrust?
****, I'm stucked again.
The apphub doesn't let me choose my country, so I chose USA and now geotrust rejects my documentation because it's not from the USA.
Ahh, Microsoft, always fu*king the third world.
Ever since i started using wp7 i noticed that i have been getting a lot of scamming calls, and these people know my name, an idea of which borough i live 'my location' and they check ur FB using ur name and guess ur age group and direct a call to you accordingly.
US residents, NY residents, be careful. I just searched my number on this WP7 app called 'number guru' and damn, my full first and last name showed up.. for my blackberry friends, nothing.. total privacy... no names.. just a 'wireless user'..
i think the damage has already been done.. my name and number is out their for all these scammers to lynch on.. i just have to be careful now about the calls i recieve.. last week i recieved a call from someone pretending to bank of america and they started with 'Hi am i speaking to 'MY FULL NAME'" and i was like this must be legit... than i got call from someone pretending to be a university.. one more stating i signed up for working from home and start a business .. atleast now i know that my number, my name and my location is out there and anyone can buy it..
i have been using same number for last three years and never got such calls before.. but in last two months i get one such call every 2nd week..
Edit: BTW i am dead sure its from WP7 because once i confronted the lady pretending to be a university offering me admission if i answered some of her 'personal questions' first.. i asked her is she really know me or is just calling a random number..? and she said : 'oh i know you, your name is this, you live here, and your email is '[email protected]' ... which i never use for anything else other than my wp.
Purple11 said:
Ever since i started using wp7 i noticed that i have been getting a lot of scamming calls, and these people know my name, an idea of which borough i live 'my location' and they check ur FB using ur name and guess ur age group and direct a call to you accordingly.
US residents, NY residents, be careful. I just searched my number on this WP7 app called 'number guru' and damn, my full first and last name showed up.. for my blackberry friends, nothing.. total privacy... no names.. just a 'wireless user'..
i think the damage has already been done.. my name and number is out their for all these scammers to lynch on.. i just have to be careful now about the calls i recieve.. last week i recieved a call from someone pretending to bank of america and they started with 'Hi am i speaking to 'MY FULL NAME'" and i was like this must be legit... than i got call from someone pretending to be a university.. one more stating i signed up for working from home and start a business .. atleast now i know that my number, my name and my location is out there and anyone can buy it..
i have been using same number for last three years and never got such calls before.. but in last two months i get one such call every 2nd week..
Edit: BTW i am dead sure its from WP7 because once i confronted the lady pretending to be a university offering me admission if i answered some of her 'personal questions' first.. i asked her is she really know me or is just calling a random number..? and she said : 'oh i know you, your name is this, you live here, and your email is '[email protected]' ... which i never use for anything else other than my wp.
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Maybe its the first windows phone virus, that would be cool.
I remember when people said Linux and apple is weren't more secure, they just weren't targeted by virus writers because there was no value in hacking such a small number of computers using it....but now with ISO and android, I don't hear that anymore...hmmm
Anyway, have you nailed down the application that is leaking information yet?
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Maybe its the first windows phone virus, that would be cool.
I remember when people said Linux and apple is weren't more secure, they just weren't targeted by virus writers because there was no value in hacking such a small number of computers using it....but now with ISO and android, I don't hear that anymore...hmmm
Anyway, have you nailed down the application that is leaking information yet?
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Its not any virus or any malicious program.. its people.. i have downloaded 100 apps and games.. and everyone asks for owner's identity, location.. they just save it in their database, pile it up and sell it to marketeers...
these guys calling me all know just three things about me: my name, my neighborhood and my live id.. they dont know my card details which i use to pay for apps.. neither my exact address (like zip code, or street name) ..
i ran a few iphone numbers of friends i know who use it.. and all their names show up in 'number guru' app.. i dont know anyone with android.. but none of the blackberries numbers have their names flashed for world to see like this.. i thought one's cell number is one of most private thing to have.. next to full residential address.. how can they publish it with my name like that.. its not fair.
You do know that cell phone numbers were all public until a couple of years ago, and you had to opt for them to be private. Many people still have theirs listed as public and don't even know it. It may just be a coincidence... I looked up my number, still private... And I install every single app just to check them out, especially ones spoken about here
Sorry, but there is no systemic "WP7 privacy violation" going on. I have installed many apps that use location and even owner identity (probably more than most people in this forum), but Number Guru has me listed as an anonymous user. My wife, who uses a Blackberry, and has essentially no 3rd party apps installed (other than official ones, like Facebook), shows up in Number Guru by name.
Oh, and I still get lots of spam calls. Most of them are coming from criminals who have gotten copies of the US Do Not Call list, and are using it to spam people. There are forums popping up all over the net to talk about this problem.
Than how come they have my Live ID listed as my email id? That email i just created only for phone and have not used even once anywhere.
I don't know. But you missed my point. Sure, there may be an unscrupulous app developer out there who is harvesting personal information and selling it, but that is no different from any other possible environment where you might either intentionally or accidentally provide personal information.
My point is that there is nothing specific to WP7 that makes this any worse than anywhere else in our lives. My ID is still private on Number Guru, despite the fact that I have installed well over 500 apps over the 10 months that I've owned my phone (most have obviously been uninstalled later), many of which asked for owner identity permission. By contrast, my wife, who has never owned a WP7 device, is not private.
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Than how come they have my Live ID listed as my email id? That email i just created only for phone and have not used even once anywhere.
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Have you maybe signed up to any website using this email?
As far as I know apps can't even see your Windows Live ID.
The only thing I could imagine is that an app promted you to send an email and you sent this email using the Windows Live ID you created.
I don't really get any calls of this sort that often. so fail on blaming wp7 as the cause.
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Have you maybe signed up to any website using this email?
As far as I know apps can't even see your Windows Live ID.
The only thing I could imagine is that an app promted you to send an email and you sent this email using the Windows Live ID you created.
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I have never sent any email using my live.com email to anyone.. my sent folder is empty.. I only created and used it to sign into my brand new wp7... thats it..
i also get a lot of nigeria type scam emails on this mail account, even though i absolutely never used it anywhere to register or to send any feedback .. nothing.. but thats not important for me.. i just dont like the phone calls which come with a good degree of accurate info about me ever since i started using wp7.. i have been using this phone number for last 3 yrs.. but these calls started coming after two-three months of wp7.
here are some numbers i get call from:
866-901-9856
213-725-5387
602-602-6000
877-759-4409
Several other 800 numbers..
I just want to warn everyone.. thats it.. wp7 has started these calls, i know it for fact.. many iphone users have complained about the same on number guru..
Edit: i think developers can see your live id once you review their application.. i am not sure about it.
I am pretty sure that you have a spy app install (or had one at some point) that sent your email, phone number, location, etc. back to the app's author who then resell this info to other people.
This type of apps are a huge problem on Android and to some degree on iOS.
So my suggestion is that when you install apps and you get a prompt that the app is accessing your location, phone number, etc., don't just click "allow" "allow" "allow".
Also, make sure to reset your password just in case your Windows Live got hacked.
Purple11 said:
Edit: i think developers can see your live id once you review their application.. i am not sure about it.
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No they cant
hi guy's..
just wondering. it's happen to friens of mine. He receive call from his own number. But then end of phone number with additional "0000".
It was malaysian phone number. exp: +6019 xxxx xxx 0000.. anyone knows about this?
Thank anyway..