Does anyone know if I can get my tmobile gs2 to work on AT&T and get there 3G 4G speeds? Thanks
3G yes, 4G or LTE no.
would be please guys define "3G" for att ? up to 6mbps ? more ? or what ?
If an iPhone 4S can get 5mbps in my town and showing 4G on iOS5.1 , what would a T989 with att SIM can get in the same area and moment ?
mahanddeem said:
would be please guys define "3G" for att ? up to 6mbps ? more ? or what ?
If an iPhone 4S can get 5mbps in my town and showing 4G on iOS5.1 , what would a T989 with att SIM can get in the same area and moment ?
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the t989... I believe has a modem that is 3x faster than the iphone 4s so it should get approximately 10-15mbps.
btw you should come to understand that tmobile 4g is actually just 3g.. well 3.5g
hence the HSPA"+"
the 4g LTE has records of hitting over 60mbps
more reference the max potential for our phone is 42mbps I think, but it is usually half of that. the iphone 4s max potential ~15mbps.
why don't you trade/sell your phone for a skyrocket, it only makes sense to use their 4g lte data and have proper ICS
I was actually thinking about buying a Straighttalk SIM at straighttalksim.com and pick ATT over T-Mobile as it seems ATT gets better coverage in buildings..but was under the impression that I couldn't use my T-Mobile GS2 due to different frequencies?
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ztmike said:
I was actually thinking about buying a Straighttalk SIM at straighttalksim.com and pick ATT over T-Mobile as it seems ATT gets better coverage in buildings..but was under the impression that I couldn't use my T-Mobile GS2 due to different frequencies?
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lol I think many people are thinking the exact same thing , including me
T mobile SUCKS big time and then times ten in my city (and good luck having data at 10 am til 9 pm)... barely getting 1-2 mbps DL with rediculus ping times , my wife iPhone 4S with a ST SIM card att compatible is hitting 5mbps ease everywhere everytime in the day ... Might get a good deal on a used T mobile GS2 and put a new ST SIM att in it ...
And yes the iPhone 4S (which sucks also in every department IMO) has a HSDPA capabillity of 14.4mbps max DL ... But I woulnder if a better "modem" can get better speeds if the original network sucks from the start ...
Yeah I am trying to figure out if I get an ATT gsm version would I get 4g speeds or would I be stuck with edge? I'm debating if I should do A trade or just go buy a nexus from google play.
You will probably get 3-5 mb/s in non congested area or non peak time. Some areas peak higher. But I wouldn't expect higher than 3 mb/s anytime. And in my area that is stretching it from 8a to 3p.
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I currently have an unlocked GSM version on ATT and I have seen some downloads as high as 8-9mbps down. I average around 3-5.
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An ATT specific version does not exist. The GSM Nexus sold in the google play store supports HSPA+ with both ATT and T-Mobile networks.
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An ATT specific version does not exist. The GSM Nexus sold in the google play store supports HSPA+ with both ATT and T-Mobile networks.
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Oh ok, the guy in the thread said it was an AT&T variant thats why I asked, usually ATT phones only get edge or whatever.
Yeah most phones are that way. The galaxy nexus had a penta-band radio so it supports both.
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Oh ok, the guy in the thread said it was an AT&T variant thats why I asked, usually ATT phones only get edge or whatever.
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Huh? not sure what you mean by that... If you have an "AT&T" branded phone and put it on T-Mobile it'll get EDGE only. And vice-versa. There are plenty of unlocked phones that will get HSPA+ on AT&T though, they just have to support the right frequencies (most do).
The GNex supports EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll get full speeds that any other HSPA+ device will get on their network. You will not get LTE.
You'll also get full HSPA+ support on T-mobile.
it all depends where you live..
Yes you will get 4G ATT speeds on your galaxy nexus... But you wont get LTE Speeds since it don't have a LTE Radio
i can get 5-8Mbps down on a good day..
but i avg about 2.5-4mbps
might go back to note again..tried the note 1 but returned it for a GS3 before my 30 days return..i dont normally get first gen devices but i miss the note..
i watched the sammy video and said that it will have 3G/4G LTE support so that means the unlocked version will have 3G/4G LTE or only 3G/4G hsap+ on unlocked..?
how much do unlocked note 2 will sell for?
thanks:good:
Well the one for the UK does not have LTE. The Euro one will have LTE but in the States the LTE will not work (different frequencies for LTE). So before you jump out and buy do your research. Buying a Note2 will be much more confusing this time around.
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Well the one for the UK does not have LTE. The Euro one will have LTE but in the States the LTE will not work (different frequencies for LTE). So before you jump out and buy do your research. Buying a Note2 will be much more confusing this time around.
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Will the Note 2 have HSPA 42?
I ask because I plan on using the international version on TMo prepaid once they change their network spectrum.
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Nxxx said:
Will the Note 2 have HSPA 42?
I ask because I plan on using the international version on TMo prepaid once they change their network spectrum.
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According to T-mobile yes it will do HSPA 42.
http://www.zdnet.com/t-mobile-and-u...amsung-galaxy-note-ii-coming-soon-7000004497/
I am thinking of doing the same thing as you. I live in NY and TMO already starting to change over here.
what data speed will i have if i get the unlocked version on the NOTE 2 running on ATT? hspa+? what are top peek speeds on data on that? if the unlocked NOTE 2 can run on ATT hspa+ network.. 3G is fine on ATT for web/email/msg ect.. but i want to get at least 4G+ speeds for watching videos/downloading bigger files...
thanks..
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what data speed will i have if i get the unlocked version on the NOTE 2 running on ATT? hspa+? what are top peek speeds on data on that? if the unlocked NOTE 2 can run on ATT hspa+ network.. 3G is fine on ATT for web/email/msg ect.. but i want to get at least 4G+ speeds for watching videos/downloading bigger files...
thanks..
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I am on Long Island, NY and I have straight talk which uses Att hspa+ network.
My downloads avg about 5-6mbps and my uploads about 1mbps.
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I am on Long Island, NY and I have straight talk which uses Att hspa+ network.
My downloads avg about 5-6mbps and my uploads about 1mbps.
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thats the max upload/down speeds on HSPA+ on ATT? does att have good coverage in your area?
what do HSPA+ max data speeds?
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thats the max upload/down speeds on HSPA+ on ATT? does att have good coverage in your area?
what do HSPA+ max data speeds?
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I dont know if thats the max speeds. Thats what I normally get in NYC and on parts of Long Island. Coverage so far has been good. Not many places I have been to that doesnt have coverage.
Does the Unlocked T-Mobile Note 2 work with AT&T's Proper LTE?
Hi all,
I am planning to get a note 2 from mobicity here in Australia.
I have the choice of either the 4g LTE version or the 3g version.
My network at the moment doesn't support 4g, so i would only be getting it to future proof it. And i am moving back to England soon, so i might get 4g when I go there.
But if I get the 4g version, I know that 4g LTE uses a lot more battery then the 3g version. But if I disabled 4g in settings (like you can disable 3g on the galaxy s2) would I then get the same battery life as the 3g version? Or would I still get worse battery life?.
I really need to know, as if I would still get worse battery life, I will get the 3g version.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Corey
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The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
interfreak said:
The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
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Hi,
I don't have 4g coverage at the moment, but i am moving to England soon, and I heard they are starting to roll out 4g there at the moment.
I am only 16, and I am currently un-employed, so i don't have any income, apart from the money my dad gives me, so i can't upgrade my phone each year.
That's why I want to future proof it.
If I do buy the 4g version, and I disabled 4g in settings (I heard the was a option for that in the setting of the n2) then would I get the same battery life as if I had the 3g version? As that should disable the 4g radio. And from what I can find out, the only difference between the 4g and the 3g version is the 4G radio in the lte version.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Ok thanks,
Do you know if it would give the same battery life as the 3g model if I disabled 4g?
As battery life is really important for me, as my current phone is the galaxy s2, and the battery life is terrible on it, I have to recharge 2 to 3 times a day, so no matter which note 2 I get it will be better then that.
But i want to get the best battery life I can.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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I don't know if anyone can guarantee it will be the same between the two, but no matter how you slice it, you'll still get MUCH better battery life on the N2 than on your S2...even if you keep 4g on...so if you turn it off, it will just be that much better. It's a win win either way.
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Actually, 4G is more battery comsume than 3G, but the difference is not so large, auound 10-15%, when you turn off the 4G, the battery performance is same as 3G version.
But the download speed have very big difference between 3g and 4g. I advise you choice LTE version
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Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
what is the reason?
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Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
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But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
seyedshahaboddin said:
But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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Im using the N7105 on "3" in the uk to make use of the DC-HSPA+
Thats specifically why I went for the N7105 because I have unlimited data on that network and the N7100 doesn't support DC.
I use the phone a lot and I easily get a full days use on a single charge and as long as I can do that I don't care as I charge the phone every night.
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
seyedshahaboddin said:
This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
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Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
4g speed is worth the battery life i would say..i am a 4g user..
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
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From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
seyedshahaboddin said:
I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
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Make sure the lte bands are compatible and that you have coverage. If you don't have coverage I would just get the n7100. BTW, even though I think Nokia and Motorola by far still make the best phones as far as reception is concerned, Samsung should get an honorable mention for being very battery friendly when signal is poor. Nokia too. Motorola is iffy when it comes to poor signal. And not to mention, the galaxy note 2 gets very good reception for a Samsung phone and by far has the best WiFi reception of any phone I have ever had. Even better than my atrix.
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But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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if you buy an 7105 and don't use lte at all, it will probably get a little less battery like i mentioned before. otoh though, it has dc-hspa so it would depend if you get the same as n7100 on your coverage and speeds. anyways, at most you will probably see a 20% loss of what you would see with a 7100. at most. anyways, quit asking for my approval. if you can get an unlocked n7105 and don't mind a small POTENTIAL loss, you should be good to go.
Been reading up about how T Mobile are switching to the normal GSM frequency to allow 4g internet speeds using international devices.
In practice though, how far are they away from accomplishing this?
I'm debating whether to get the T Mob version of Note 2 or the Intl version (some 100 - 150 cheaper).
Also, on intl. version can they detect tethering or is that only on the domestic version?>
Cheers
Those frequencies are slated to come alive like end of 2013 so it s a good ways off
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So if I get intl. version now on T Mobile, it will be restricted to 2G speed?
I thought they had already farmed out a lot of the updated network frequencies in urban areas, etc?
What other disadvantages would there be?
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Been reading up about how T Mobile are switching to the normal GSM frequency to allow 4g internet speeds using international devices.
In practice though, how far are they away from accomplishing this?
I'm debating whether to get the T Mob version of Note 2 or the Intl version (some 100 - 150 cheaper).
Also, on intl. version can they detect tethering or is that only on the domestic version?>
Cheers
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Check out airportal.de which is a crowdsourced tmobile refarm map. For me the two areas im in (sf bay and los angeles) both have some refarm done, but I need the wifi calling and the insurance justifies the extra cost too, though not sure if and when we'll get multiview
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Get the Tmobile version and be done with it. Don't buy a phone and hope the network will come to you. Refarm or not the 1900 mhz hspa+ footprint is so small it's not worth it.
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