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Ok heres what im wanting to do...
Hack up a micro-usb cable to in exhange replace a car dock... or make life cheaper yet harder on myself. I see the motorola car dock has Micro-usb out to a usb male and a 3.5mm jack. is this something one can do by cutting up a usb cable?? just a thought. maybe.... ? theres only black/yellow/red/green/white/ground out of a usb correct? ground and red are power.....
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Ok heres what im wanting to do...
Hack up a micro-usb cable to in exhange replace a car dock... or make life cheaper yet harder on myself. I see the motorola car dock has Micro-usb out to a usb male and a 3.5mm jack. is this something one can do by cutting up a usb cable?? just a thought. maybe.... ? theres only black/yellow/red/green/white/ground out of a usb correct? ground and red are power.....
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Can you explain it again? I've read it a few times and I still have no solid idea of what you're trying to do.
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Can you explain it again? I've read it a few times and I still have no solid idea of what you're trying to do.
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I think he wants to make his own...maybe? Doesn't make too much sense.
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Lol sorry. The thoughts were flowing and it was bed time...
I pretty much thought of a DIY car dock. Make it yourself. I know its possible Im just wondering of anyone has done it before I try.
leperkuan said:
Lol sorry. The thoughts were flowing and it was bed time...
I pretty much thought of a DIY car dock. Make it yourself. I know its possible Im just wondering of anyone has done it before I try.
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Its not necessary. you can access the cardock mode without having to use usb or any thing else. Using launcher pro or super manager, you can set up a shortcut to cardock mode.
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Its not necessary. you can access the cardock mode without having to use usb or any thing else. Using launcher pro or super manager, you can set up a shortcut to cardock mode.
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I understand that and I have cyanogen mod which has the cardock app. I'm looking to make my own hardware cardock. I have seen people use USB and magnets and such on other phones but what I'm trying to attempt is to lose 1 cord hanging from the phone.
Is it possible to charge phone and play music out of just the micro USB port of the phone. I hate having wires running out of the top and side. Its a hassle to plug in two if I can do away with one.
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you'll have to find out what is triggering the phone to output analog audio over the USB lines. I'm assuming, there is a voltage put on pin5 of the USB (ID pin) telling the phone. "You are in a cardock. Load cardock application. Route analog audio to the USB pins". Again, I'm ASSuming it is using the data +/- lines as L/R audio outs.
I have 0 proof of any of this. Just as an EE, how I might do it. In short, it'll probably cost you more to build one, than to just buy the official on off ebay/amazon.
Also, since you're using Cyanogen, as am I -- with cardock and desktop dock, Cyanogen does NOT hve the ability to route audio through USB yet. You'll have to use the 3.5mm jack or bluetooth(?).
Ohhh that sucks... I'm sure cyanogenmod will fix that soon. Guess ill order the official. My main issue is I'm going to run this behind the dashboard so no hanging wires. Also not taking up my cigarette lighter. I didn't want to cut up the original cardock but I can manage. Thanks. Ill keep looking around.
It doesn't have to activate car dock to satisfy me but Audio out of USB is a must
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Researching... found
http://store.phandroid.com/htc-multifunction-audio-adapter/11A75A4401.htm
Might workif I can find a MICROS USB male to female wire about.....6 foot still splicing into more than wanting to. Also found some posts about a 5th pin on micro USB on a Droid being used to trigger USB audio out using a certain resistor.
No hard evidence but if I find out I'm making a DIY
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Does the Motorola atrix car dock only plug into the USB port of the phone or does it use the HDMI port as well?
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Only the USB not the HDMI.
You can put all the resistors you want, but cyangen as a ROM doesn't do it. Otherwise, it should work with the official one. I doubt it will work with a generic one, or a homemade one.
If this feature is a must for you, then go to a Pi variant of the official rom. That works great. I had like 17-18 hours on a charge. With 8 of those streaming pandora at work.
I froze the CarDock application on my Pi rom, and everything still worked (audio through USB.)
If you want usb cables, www.monoprice.com.
As for the HTC thing, make sure it is not a properitary connector to HTC phones, like the motorola docks are to motorla phones. Ie) The Resistor on pin 5 of the HTC one might be 100k, while the one in the motorola one might be 200k.
Seriously, its easier to get the official one. Theres only one cable from the dock (microusb) Which splits into a USB-A and 3.5mm. And you can get extension cables from monoprice.
Good luck.
Wow... thanks. I meant to mention I have an extended battery so the phone is bigger than stock. And I wanted the ability to buy a new phone and keep my DIY Dock installed. But HTC and Motorola differ grrr.
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You found out for sure? I'm not saying there ARE, but they MIGHT be.
That sucks man. The battery pack probably won't fit on the cardock, it MIGHT on the regular dock. But the car dock has a back to it, and a latch that latches on the phone side. I HATE cases, and prefer skins. I had to trim the side of the skin from corner to corner on the USB side, just so it fit into the docks...little room for anything larger than stock phone.
I suggest...hacking up the official cardock or maybe the regular dock (instead of one cable, it has two jacks -- a microusb and a 3.5mm), and using a Pi-rom.
Ok so my goal to achieve is.. a permanent hidden wire behind the dash.
Kind of blows motos differ from HTC.. puts a kink...
I also hate cases but! With this extended battery my phone EASily lasts 2 days with decent usage. Like navigation all weekend. I had my stock back and battery in today with moderate use like Pandora at work and I was 10% by lunch. Possibly because I wiped the battery stats this morning from the Tom change. Allso I hear there is a battery drain in cyanogenmod.
I'm going to search up the pi-rom
I will most likely sucker up and buy the moto dock and use my stock battery :-(
I hate to cut the dock up when u can always resale it with the phone with the attrix 5g comes out lol
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Alright what is pi rom
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189497
Confused about cherrypi a little bit.
4.5.91 RADIO UPDATE - Being that the n............
I am unlocked.. installing the recovery is no issue....
but the radio update im lost. there is no real instructions on usage.
I download the ....91 radio from the link.
"YOU REQUIRE TENFARS UNLOCKED CWM"
so i have to use tenfars cwm, flash radio...
flash romracers recovery...
than i can flash cherrypi?
Why cant everyone just make compatible things with cwm recovery from rom manager
I got it installed. Not too thrilled it seems like a themed stock rom. I will deal with it until progress on cyanogen goes further
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you have to remember this particular rom came out right after the bootloader unlocked. before Cyanogen even started.
All there was was 4.5.91 so every custom rom was based on that.
It was also done before a lot of the other clockworkmod recoveries were around... tenfars was the only viable one at the time. Hell, I even tried CWM's and it didn't work for C7 either. I still had to go to romracers recovery .
It is a themed and somewhat debloated 4.5.91, says so right in the description.
Extremely stable. Use Titanium Backup to freeze some other processes and you should easily be able to get 17hours on one full charge with 8hours of that streaming pandora over HSPA (stock battery). I do that all the time at work. And to top it off, the dock functions WORK.
I also changed from the launcher it comes with to ADW...to give it more of a stock feel.
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I got it installed. Not too thrilled it seems like a themed stock rom. I will deal with it until progress on cyanogen goes further
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I've been running π crust lately. It's pretty good. Not a fan of most of the themed roms.
I actually restored back to c7 because my home button quit working.
I noticed battery performance right off the bat with pi crust. I liked having blur but not logging in lol. The sticky notes from it are nice.
17 hours on stock battery with 8 hours streaming Pandora sounds nice. I actually stream 3hours of I heart radio in the morning than switch to Pandora.
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Would TV-in be possible?
Probably the stupidest idea I've had but without asking Ill never know.
Basically, my current TV doesn't display older consoles well and i was wondering if there would be any way to output from them, to my phone screen? This, if posssible, would mean being able to strip an old console down, recase it, small external power supply or mod to microUSB, plug into phone and Bobs your Uncle!
Just looking at some modded handheld Gamecubes got me thinking
As I said, its probably impossible but a man can dream......
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I have a 2nd gen iPod Touch that i just cant stand any more and I have a JBL OnBeat that I can play my OgEvo through. With no way to charge it becomes a problem. Is there any android docks out there besides the Philips ones? With android being out for some time now why is there not a market for docks that are android specific? Please dont link me to some hack and slash job that somebody modded an iDock to work with android.
Thanks
Probably because the phones are all different shapes and sizes so no manufacturer wants to waste money on making them..
It could be done though.. with the right plastic inserts... kinda like a modular design type thing..
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Wordlywisewiz said:
Probably because the phones are all different shapes and sizes so no manufacturer wants to waste money on making them..
It could be done though.. with the right plastic inserts... kinda like a modular design type thing..
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wouldnt need any plastic inserts, the part that would hold the phone would just need to be spring loaded and able to turn 90 degrees to support phones with the charger on the side not the bottom. I figured out a way to hack and slash the JBL unit i have as it has a usb port on the rear and a 3mm audio in on the rear. Just would rather buy a unit for android.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/11/13/gdock-speaker-dock-made-for-samsung-galaxy-devices/
Android really does need a good dock..
Would be a great kick starter project..
But I believe wireless charging plus NFC and Bluetooth dock would be much simpler for all devices to be able to use in the future..
So just lay your device anywhere on the surface it starts charging and NFC pairs the 2 via Bluetooth and plays music
Nexus dock Google common do it!
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http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/11/13/gdock-speaker-dock-made-for-samsung-galaxy-devices/
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looks like a great dock, Ill add it to my christmas wish list.
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-kills-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-tabs-11268778/
So thats why we never got note 10.1 keyboard in US.
I still fancied the dock....
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Too bad, the idea of a keyboard dock that also charged seemed good
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deecee52 said:
I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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my playbook, and my note 2 use 2 amp chargers. I just lucked or on the 30 pin connector because I had a mini usb to 30 pin connector for my tab 2 7.0, and an extra cable.
The tf300 was a dream to type on with the dock, but honestly, my note 10.1 kicks the crap out of it. The oem cover works great, with the exception of a lot of e's that come out 3.
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I had no idea that this was happening.
It would be awesome if Samsung could come up with a transformer-esque type of keyboard/cover, or even a touch-cover like the Surface.
It makes the idea of a "Note netbook/laptop" a good one, but with two separated accessories i.e. stand + bluetooth keyboard, that idea is gone.
Shame :/
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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seriously though, the battery life on the note 10 is pretty good, I would like the extra peripherals, like the full size sd and usb ports on the transformer docks.
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dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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What I want is to travel without two toons of devices
Just one which does anything I need. And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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What I want is to travel without two tons of devices ... And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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This. I've been able to travel with only my tablet (on certain business trips even) and have most of what i'd needed to do be accessible that way.
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab10.1. I tried it with the display model Tab 2 10.1 & it fit. I thought that the Tab 210.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not. It works if you pull out the plastic guide/holder, but then it is kind of flimsy in there. Bummer.
Wasnt there a rumor somewhere that one of Samsungs next tablets was going to be transformer-esque? I could have sworn I read something a few months ago about it.
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I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab 10.1 ... I thought that the Tab2 10.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not.
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Well, with the GNote 10.1 LTE coming to VZ soon, I'd expect they'd be getting accessories there, too (and likely to be hugely overpriced), so I'd come back again a little while after the GNote's available in VZ stores.
Tempted to grab one off ebay. What can I say, sometimes I get typity.
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The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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That sounds sort of narrow-minded in my opinion. Why can't a tablet be both or why can't a computer be a tablet? For an artist like me, I would love the opportunity if tablets got powerful enough to rival their notebook counterparts and offered a desktop view as well as for easy access with a keyboard and trackpad.
With the move of ultrabooks , especially the Surface Pro, converging into tablet territory with full features, one must consider that to be a blessing than a curse. Think about it in this way: Would you carry a radio, cd player , portable DVD player with TV, game system and an ereader just to be able to use them, or would you opt for the simpler solution of an all in one deal? That is the number one reason why the iPod took off: portability. Not only can you get a radio, but a music player and now video, games and reading.
It gets roughly cumbersome to carry every single CD, DVD ,game cart/disc in addition to the hardware , let alone the books for brief reading in commutes in comparison to an all out deal.
For the average consumer and artist, such things are so hard to get that it is pushed towards the rich ,but now similar tech now exists that has the potential to allow for maximal power and capability and the ability to change form factors on the fly. Why should people have to be inconvenienced to buying several different products that can be brought under one device when it can be deducted into one singular product that is amazing and does it all , broadly speaking?
If we went by this flawed logic an mp3 player must play music only, but no radio , thus how would iPods and whatnot be popular if they didn't serve multiple functions simply?
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
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Thanks.....I think. Glad to hear about the PDMI. Just have to figure out how to use it.
What I was trying too say is everything is an add on so my kit ends up being as bulky as my ultrabook and far more prone to losing some piece that makes the whole thing work. my last tablet logged about 100k+/- frequent flyer miles. Using one power brick with one power end, one multi headed usb, one multi headed hdmi, one universal battery charger brick fit neatly in an airplane amenity bag, and served two cameras, one phone and a tablet. Needed no OTG cable to get the CF card reader seen by the tablet. Because I have a GNex, I already have a data/sync switch on my usb cable.
The cameras are the hardest and heaviest to carry.
So far, I've had to add another amenity kit to add the adapters for the Note. And I still don't have a way of using it to run a projector or tv. My phone ends up doing that.
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Just bought one, stock is running out everywhere.
Time to think about soldering a split cable data/charging, and if that works hdmi.
Hope it's as nice as said, but returning is always an option in NL.:good:
I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. HDMI MHL adapter.
But why? They make a pc for that.
Gs3 is not very powerful and you won't have good resolution. Productivity will be minimal.
If you want a mobile PC grab a windows 8 tablet like the surface pro.
Do you want a desktop or a mobile device?
You could buy a transformer type tablet or build a desktop for pretty cheap.
If you want this to be mobile, that's a lot of crap to carry around... How would you even power the screen? Seems like those people who bring desktops to coffee shops.
If you want a desktop, you can come build or buy one that's much more powerful for not all that much more than the cost of hooking your phone up - and then you don't have to worry about battery life draining and overheating.
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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You guys don't quiet get it. I have a powerful desktop replacement and a netbook.
But I like the idea of having all this in my pocket and just plugging into a workstation at home.
And a Microsoft Surface? EEWWwwwww.
It is possible, I'm using WD Live, no keyboard use tho, but I can stream YouTube or play files from my phone onto tv using wd and some other UpnP apps.
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Lmao, idk why I thought this comment was hilarious
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I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIm9yZy52aWRlb21hcC5kcm9pZG1vdGVjbGllbnQiXQ..
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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If you want to be able to just plug it into yet another set of hardware at home... just go buy the stuff and plug it in.
Bluetooth is still a better deal than wired keyboard/mouse - but you still have the battery drain issue, which is why this is not a practical idea - especially since we're talking about an S3. It should be able to accept hardware input through the micro usb, but it's not really designed for that - and you'd have to get adapters and hub and why have all that crap taking up space if you already have a home system ? I wonder what would happen if you had three pieces of hardware trying to use the same micro-usb input, too (obviously, hubs work, but they have to share - and the monitor is going to want a lot of the available transfer capacity for itself) - makes more sense to just use it for HDMI to the monitor and use bluetooth for the peripherals.
If you had a phone that could run off AC only, it might fare better - since there'd be no battery constantly charging and draining and heating everything up, but the S3 won't do that.
Cool idea in theory ? Yeah. It would be great. But in practice, not so much. It would be better if the S3 could run from AC only - heck, it'd be almost a good idea. But since it can't and it lacks great cooling (since it's a compact, air-cooled phone), you're just going to be exposing the phone to high operating temperatures for extended periods of time which isn't exactly great for it.