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Hello,
I'm considering a new phone and have been looking at the Xperia S/SL. I like the feel of the devices and the design. I think having a physical camera button is great! If you have an S/SL, what do you like most about it? What do you like the least? Seems other than 2 additional colors and a bump in CPU speed, the SL is the same as the S. Is that so? Most everything I've seen in terms of customization (new ROMs, etc) talk about the S and not the SL. Can I safely assume that the S and SL are synonymous with regards to rooting, ROMs, etc.?
Thanks,
cesman
Well I must say the XS is awesome, i mena the camera is great (except some autofocus issues, however you can get another app for that) the screen is gorgeous, flaws ... must I say non removeable battery, lacking micro sd port (however 32 gb I think It's fair enough)
I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
You can flash a custom kernel to have 1.7GHz like SL, no other main difference between S and SL.
The camera is good, and the device runs smooth with some tweaks for custom looks it's the same as other devices, you can always customize Android
Non removable battery and no micro-sd slot doesn't bother me, there is a key reset combo and I don't need more then 32GB
Battery life isn't superb, but also not really bad, you can easily get one day or more. Unless you are a very heavy user or have a lot of apps that sync data
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just like my phone have lots of apps that need sync , and thats why i bought smartphone , so it can sync automatically and not to do it manually.
For the price you really can't go wrong, you get a stunning 300+ PPI 720p HD screen, a 12mp Camera and a decent dual core.
It's got a gorgeous UI but since it's an android you're probably going to be skinning it anyways. It feels weighty and it's sturdy, it doesn't feel cheap at all and you feel like you're holding a sturdy phone. Build quality is good, I've dropped it countless times and it's still yet to break for me.
You can unlock the bootloader officially which is good and it really isn't all that hard to root the device and install roms on it.
The downsides I'd say is the non-removable battery which for is a concern and a problem considering the battery isn't all the impressive, It lasts me from 8am in the morning to about 3-4am with low/moderate usage.
32gb for most people should be more than enough.
Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
mikejaxer said:
Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Interesting choice of adjectives as some would consider "amazing" better than "good". I held the Z in my hand at CES and didn't care for the feel. The ZL has a much better hand feel. If anything, that is the phone I'd wait for... As long as I can get it unlocked. I'm more attached to the Xperia line than the Galaxy... Although it is nice that Galaxy has official CM releases up to the current M1.
krabappel2548 said:
I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
cesman said:
I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
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IPMART Malaysia
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
any body make a custom rom for Xperia SL (Real SL)
becuase all of custom rom are Xperia S
I guess all Roms for Xperia s will be compatible with the sl. Not sure though.
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krabappel2548 said:
It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
javitogomezzzz said:
Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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It'll be better to get an S!! because its tries and tested and u have a lot of ppl to hold u back!! SL is just picking up!
The S is exactly the same as the SL just the SL is overclocked from the factory. I have a SL, shoulda just bought the S and saved some money.
Is something wrong with the device
i want to know is there something wrong with the hardware or anything i really want to buy it but m confused.
do u recommend to have xperia s ???
does it lag or something
do u recommend to buy it or locking for HTC or samsung
considering the price point??
kilouhm said:
do u recommend to have xperia s ???
does it lag or something
do u recommend to buy it or locking for HTC or samsung
considering the price point??
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If me, i would go for Xperia Ion instead of XS....Just add some small bucks than XS...
Bigger screen, better camera, sleek design...Xperia S ? Yellow tint issue, ICS compatibility problem, this is what i read last time
wajahebat said:
If me, i would go for Xperia Ion instead of XS....Just add some small bucks than XS...
Bigger screen, better camera, sleek design...Xperia S ? Yellow tint issue, ICS compatibility problem, this is what i read last time
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Better camera? They are exactly the same? Design? Its taste. Yellow tint issue was fixed 2 months after release. ICS problem? What the hell you are talking about?
On the other side, XS have much more and better support of devs.
Felimenta97 said:
Better camera? They are exactly the same? Design? Its taste. Yellow tint issue was fixed 2 months after release. ICS problem? What the hell you are talking about?
On the other side, XS have much more and better support of devs.
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I thought ive used a nice language...Ive mentioned that i read it somewhere...Not that i am firm about it...
But still Ion is a better grab than XS, bigger screen, microSD expansion slot?
And about that XS with ICS not stable, well that happens to my country set whom upgrade to ICS through OTA...Maybe yours not
Chill bro
The fact is that you are speaking about stuffs you dont own apparently, and yes, the first things you said seemed to be like: I affirm this. This is it.
No, xperia S has no screen problems since ages, and has no ICS problems..
the only argument will be: price, screen size, memory, and subjective aspect: design.
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wajahebat said:
I thought ive used a nice language...Ive mentioned that i read it somewhere...Not that i am firm about it...
But still Ion is a better grab than XS, bigger screen, microSD expansion slot?
And about that XS with ICS not stable, well that happens to my country set whom upgrade to ICS through OTA...Maybe yours not
Chill bro
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Sorry if I sounded like that. The "hell" part was only a way of like: "Never heard of that".
And I didn't said you were wrong. I just presented my arguments, which are against yours.
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fabulous69 said:
The fact is that you are speaking about stuffs you dont own apparently, and yes, the first things you said seemed to be like: I affirm this. This is it.
No, xperia S has no screen problems since ages, and has no ICS problems..
the only argument will be: price, screen size, memory, and subjective aspect: design.
end of topic about your intervention.
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Felimenta97 said:
Sorry if I sounded like that. The "hell" part was only a way of like: "Never heard of that".
And I didn't said you were wrong. I just presented my arguments, which are against yours.
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From what ive read, every XS users who use OTA to ICS will encounter soo much lagginess...Bcoz of the second core disabled...
If its not true then its good to go though...No hardfeelings bro....
So which should be the best ? Xs or what?
XS got great support from XDA. but if you like bigger screen then may go for iON. But for a phone anything bigger than 4 - 4.3 is too much for me.
XPERIA LT26i has a reasonable speed/size internal flash at 32GB, misses out on MicroSD card, but really not a problem to hang a 32GB USB flash off a MicroUSB cable for most people.
XPERIA S is mostly cheaper
XPERIA ion has, LTE or HSDPA giving higher mobile speeds, a bigger battery and microSD card, but lose ~16GB internal flash.
The screen on both are much the same with XPERIA S having ~342 ppi pixel density and XPERIA ion less as it's screen is stretched out.
XPERIA acro S has 16GB internal memory, MicroSD AND is able to go swimming.
Firmware wise plus or minus a MicroSD the devices are all much the same with same processing hardware.
For all these devices JB(yet to be released) is mooted to have a good raft of features coming such as wireless media broadcast to compatible devices and etc
So this gives many of the software features of the new phones if you're happy to live with a ~1.7GHz Dual Core processor and an Adreno 220.
As already stated their will probably be more development around the XPERIA LT26i as it was part of the ASOP before Sony took over this development.
Go for the Xperia SL, with the latest firmware update it's fixed most of the problems. Only thing I dislike is the overheating and stock ROM forcing you to under clock your CPU during heavy use. With general everyday usage you rarely see this happen though.
r0bot said:
Go for the Xperia SL, with the latest firmware update it's fixed most of the problems. Only thing I dislike is the overheating and stock ROM forcing you to under clock your CPU during heavy use. With general everyday usage you rarely see this happen though.
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Is it the issue with just Xperia SL ? Xperia S doesnt overheat ?
I am confused between xperia s and sl ( or maybe the new xperia SP , but it will lack community support in beginning ) . Your suggestions are welcomed
Odp: do u recommend to have xperia s ???
hybridic said:
Is it the issue with just Xperia SL ? Xperia S doesnt overheat ?
I am confused between xperia s and sl ( or maybe the new xperia SP , but it will lack community support in beginning ) . Your suggestions are welcomed
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No, Xperia S isn't overheating. You can surf the Net and you won't burn your hands Only when you are playing good games(e.g. Real Racing 3) phone can be hot but it isn't 100 degrees and you would be able to play normally without problems. After a while you won't see that phone is hot.
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Vaith said:
No, Xperia S isn't overheating. You can surf the Net and you won't burn your hands Only when you are playing good games(e.g. Real Racing 3) phone can be hot but it isn't 100 degrees and you would be able to play normally without problems. After a while you won't see that phone is hot.
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yea, my nexus 4 heats way more than my xperia..
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Guys!!! Why are there no detailed reviews about the Xperia ZL yet? Everybody is raving about the Z while ZL is still lurking in the shadows, despite being as good (or in my opinion) better in some aspects.
manishgant said:
Guys!!! Why are there no detailed reviews about the Xperia ZL yet? Everybody is raving about the Z while ZL is still lurking in the shadows, despite being as good (or in my opinion) better in some aspects.
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Is the ZL actually out anywhere yet? I expect we'll start seeing reviews in the next couple of weeks or so.
vivftp said:
Is the ZL actually out anywhere yet? I expect we'll start seeing reviews in the next couple of weeks or so.
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Even the Z hasn't hit major markets yet besides Japan. It just released in the UK last week or so. But detailed reviews have been floating around for the Z much before that. Though I do agree ZL share the same DNA as Z, I would like to see a detailed comparison of the differences atleast. Hope it comes out soon.
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Even the Z hasn't hit major markets yet besides Japan. It just released in the UK last week or so. But detailed reviews have been floating around for the Z much before that. Though I do agree ZL share the same DNA as Z, I would like to see a detailed comparison of the differences atleast. Hope it comes out soon.
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Z is currently out in about 60 countries. Its launch is ahead of the ZL, plus it is being released in more markets, so that explains why it's getting more attention. ZL will get its fair share of reviews in due time.
vivftp said:
Z is currently out in about 60 countries. Its launch is ahead of the ZL, plus it is being released in more markets, so that explains why it's getting more attention. ZL will get its fair share of reviews in due time.
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I feel like ZL is getting hella overshadowed by the Z. A lot of people still don't know the difference even though theres not much. Also for the average consumer, they either get mixed up with the Z and the ZL or don't even know that ZL existed.
rycexboi said:
I feel like ZL is getting hella overshadowed by the Z. A lot of people still don't know the difference even though theres not much. Also for the average consumer, they either get mixed up with the Z and the ZL or don't even know that ZL existed.
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My worry is that the overshadowing of Z over ZL should not happen here in XDA as well. Won't be fair if Z got all the attention from devs and ZL is left behind
Make a short list of things you wish the ZL had, in order to make your perfect vision of the ZL. I'm interested to see what people come up with and what is the most common.
Screen a la HTC One, with perfect viewingangles
32GB or 64GB internal storage, very nice when installing large applications / games
Bigger battery so it will come to the level of the HTC One and the Galaxy S IV
Software-options: DPI of the softbuttons, colors of the (notification)bar out of the box
It is perfect as far as I'm concerned.
The only thing I miss is the stock browser which can be installed if rooted.
augie7107 said:
It is perfect as far as I'm concerned.
The only thing I miss is the stock browser which can be installed if rooted.
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What's wrong with the browser supplied by Sony?
ryude said:
What's wrong with the browser supplied by Sony?
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They only supply Chrome which I'm not enamored with. I feel the android stock browser suits my taste better. I think stock is faster. I'm also more comfortable with it since I have essentially used this since I came over to Android on the Sony Ericsson X10. Also, all my previous devices came with stock browser and some had Chrome as an option. This device only comes loaded with Chrome.
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They only supply Chrome which I'm not enamored with. I feel the android stock browser suits my taste better. I think stock is faster. I'm also more comfortable with it since I have essentially used this since I came over to Android on the Sony Ericsson X10. Also, all my previous devices came with stock browser and some had Chrome as an option. This device only comes loaded with Chrome.
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Has anyone ported the stock browser yet?
ryude said:
Has anyone ported the stock browser yet?
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Yes, just use the search!
CLB-NL said:
Yes, just use the search!
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Calm down, this is General discussion.
ryude said:
Calm down, this is General discussion.
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I am calm, but what's the problem to search before asking;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213079
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I am calm, but what's the problem to search before asking;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213079
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What's the problem to have a discussion?
ryude said:
What's the problem to have a discussion?
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That it's lazy and with more than 2500 post you know how it works here...?
And I gave you a link, yeah thanks, happy community :s
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That it's lazy and with more than 2500 post you know how it works here...?
And I gave you a link, yeah thanks, happy community :s
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I didn't ask for the link, but thanks for making an argument.
perfect
the design is perfect:good:
ironheart5 said:
the design is perfect:good:
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I think so too! Is there anything in the software maybe that you wish was different or maybe included?
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I think so too! Is there anything in the software maybe that you wish was different or maybe included?
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Stock Android browser FTW instead or next to Chrome! DPI settings of the softbuttons, color of the softbuttons that you can change...
Having used the stock browser for a week, I think its not so great after all! Facebook images appear blurred (cramped in size), no full access to many websites like official sony support (can't login). No such issues with chrome, plus multi tab handling is best, but I miss the flash support, fullscreen & quick controls (of the stock browser) on chrome. Perhaps no browser is complete, so, I have to use both!
All that said, I would like sony to improve its camera software (mainly the image post processing) so as to have better quality (especially during day). I believe the camera sensor used (in Z/ZL) is top notch at the moment, but its performance limited by sony's software implementation (too much noise blur). Oh, n btw, the screen is stunning imo (best I've used so far) :good:!
Thanks for the replies everyone, this is very interesting and it helps me decide what I would want to work on for a ROM.
Guys I think Sony should make A new phone with the same Specs of Xperia Zl,
just as like HTC made their "htc one x" but Due to some issues like Fast battery draining and some other, Company made "htc onex+" with same Specs but adding more Battery(1850 to 2100mAh) and with more Storage.
So actually try to understand my point which is that Sony should Try to make Xperia ZLi or ZL+ and try to renew their Curent Xperia ZL stock by putting IPS LCD screen,removeeable battery cover like Xperia TX(Although battery cover is not a such issue) and putting Slightly more power to battery at least 2500mAh,
May be in this circumstances Sony recover their Loss which they Bear since Xperia TX................
we all see the S4 have almost same size of S3 but they ported amazingly 2100mAh to 2600mAh battery and also the weight is less than that of S3.By the way I'm Not Fanboy of Samsung....
Xperia having 2370mAh battery but its 9.8mm and S4 having 7.9mm slightly more bezel but more battery.
Its the Basically point to be noted why Samsung put more battery by just little difference of bezel size.
Xperia ZL is no doubt A good Smartphone but its resale value is equal to nothing,that's why ppl hesitating to purchase it,otherwise design is very impressive but screen really A bad factor for Zl,
Anyway I like the Xperia ZL but Sony should now learn A lesson at least..............
Dpk1 said:
Having used the stock browser for a week
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Can you rip that .apk?
Stock browser
CLB-NL said:
Can you rip that .apk?
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Sure, here you go (zip attached)! Just unzip & copy paste the two apk files to system/app & set permissions to rw- r-- r-- (but first, delete the chrome.apk & BrowserProviderProxy.apk). You can find all the info about it here.
Hi, I have two options for a new phone
Used xperia S around 14000 INR
new Xperia L around 17000INR
I use Ray and I think low PPI screen of L wouldn't suit me (ray has 297ppi) but I also think L is a bit beer in performance.
Does HD games still work well on S? any lags on MIUI v5? (It's the most heavy ROM ATM, right?)
Which one should I get?
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If I were to choose between those two smartphones, I'd choose Xperia S because I have it and I really love it !
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Sony-Xperia-L-vs-Sony-Xperia-S
Honestly Xperia S
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none of them...
vitorugo-8 said:
none of them...
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Xperia S is an old device, newest games are working on our device, but not on the highest framerate and every effects. Plus probably we won't see any more updates from sony.
Xperia L is not a good choice either, I suggest you start looking for other phones
I'd gather a little but more of money and get another better option instead of any of those two. Can be an Xperia, but a newer one.