Stupid question what is a su? - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I heard people talking about it. I'm not that up on android stuff.
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su : super user = android administrator

darchur said:
I heard people talking about it. I'm not that up on android stuff.
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having su (super user) rights is basically the result of rooting your device and mandatory for all kinds of nice stuff (like being able to use google play store on your ouya).
and its not even that hard to achieve: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2350900
careful though, if you are too hasty or clumsy or dumb you might end up bricking your device!

simbaba said:
su : super user = android administrator
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It gives you total control over your device. Long story short, it's like having the main account on a windows device, you can do anything, change anything, delete anything. THis is why distributors take it out (or don't put it in, not sure which) to many android devices because it's easy to ruin your device if you do the wrong thing.

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I need a good AntiVirus , any recommendations ?
Is the free version of lookout or AntiVirus any good ?
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I didn't know you could get a virus..what?
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Well if there are AntiViruses around I would think that viruses do exist for Android phones .
Correct me if I'm wrong
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oranium said:
Well if there are AntiViruses around I would think that viruses do exist for Android phones .
Correct me if I'm wrong
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It really is a non issue. Can you cite any viruses that have been released and affected phones?
Just check the permissions of apps and don't install fishy ones without doing a little research first.
I have Lookout on my phone. I guess its doing its job but there haven't been any viruses. The other reason I have it is if you lose your phone there is a phone locator feature using the Evo's gps.
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dom085 said:
It really is a non issue. Can you cite any viruses that have been released and affected phones?
Just check the permissions of apps and don't install fishy ones without doing a little research first.
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Just give it time. It's a big untapped market out there.
I use AVG both on my phone, and my computer. On my Linux boxes I use ClamAV.
Do I Evan need one ?
I read at Sprint users forum & some said its just taking memory & not doing much .
Is it true ?
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They all said pretty much the same thing " watch out for what you install " check remissions that's all .
True ?
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linux is completely open-source with a MASSIVE community of support. there's no reason for there not to be virii floating around for linux and possibly even android.
Seems like all AVs do is check permission for ones that shouldn't be there.
http://www.fastcompany.com/1680011/android-gets-its-first-ever-virus-youre-a-mandroid-my-son
I found them useless since it's never cleaned an "infected" file, just told me about them.
Read more: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Android+virus (Just saving you typing time, not flaming)
Antivirus attracts virus! I saw norton in the market and laughed.
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xNotta said:
Read more: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Android+virus (Just saving you typing time, not flaming)
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This could be the only friendly use of LMGTFY I've ever seen. Haha.
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Just me..but why worry about viruses when one could have "root" and get your whole phone and all of the data and connection permissions on it to everything you connect to "in the cloud" and elsewhere.
A simple rogue app would do this and never be considered it a virus.. all you have to do is install it and give it su and it does it all. This isnt a windozes environment...we want it all.."root"...viruses are child play for windoze. my opinion.

Droid dream malware

http://www.pcworld.com/article/221213/keep_malware_off_your_android_phone_5_quick_tips.html
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This article talks about a virus that roots your phone
If it was that easy to root a phone this website wouldn't exist amirite?
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/221213/keep_malware_off_your_android_phone_5_quick_tips.html
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This article talks about a virus that roots your phone
If it was that easy to root a phone this website wouldn't exist amirite?
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I haven't read the link yet, but, we aren't here merely to get root. If we only came here for root access there might not be this website--or at least such a large devoted community.
This virus probably uses an exploit of some sort (buffer overflow, injection, etc) to get root access for itself and to do nasty things with your connection and processor cycles...if it gives you root access too that's merely a pleasant side effect of the nasty stuff it's probably doing.
XDA is about so much more than just getting root access...smh
You do know that this is year old news, right?
Yes I know its old news but wouldn't super user tell us that something is trying for access?
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daneurysm said:
I haven't read the link yet, but, we aren't here merely to get root. If we only came here for root access there might not be this website--or at least such a large devoted community.
This virus probably uses an exploit of some sort (buffer overflow, injection, etc) to get root access for itself and to do nasty things with your connection and processor cycles...if it gives you root access too that's merely a pleasant side effect of the nasty stuff it's probably doing.
XDA is about so much more than just getting root access...smh
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Tech support and stuff?
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Tech support and stuff?
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Tech support? Sure.
...but what about the development community? Someone has to make a ROM. Some times teams do it. Sometimes it's a huge team. They have to meet somewhere.
If I had a gun to my head and had to come up with a reason why people come to XDA I would have to say something like "to use and explore their computer hardware however they want to, as if it were their own, which it is."
Before it's a phone it is a computer. 100% capable of being a general purpose computer. People come to XDA to use their pocket computer in any way they see fit..."rooting" is only the first--and very important--step.

[Q] Please don't get mad about this question <3

Ok I know you guys are all die hard Android users and I see where your coming from when you don't think this would be smart but, does anyone know of or could make a toolkit for Rooting/Unrooting/Recovery/etc for mac? Like a dmg installer not one that needs to be on windows?
Kay I said my peace! pls don't kill me!
Ask this guy about adding in Mac support
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
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Nope.
Do it manually. Its easy, and you won't brick your phone.
martonikaj said:
Nope.
Do it manually. Its easy, and you won't brick your phone.
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I've always done manually myself from terminal in os x and I agree it is pretty easy and safer (depending on user error). But it would be nice if Mac users also had an easy one click toolkit. I'd personally wouldn't need it but not everyone wants to manually run terminal commands.
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Verizon nexus rooting

Question to all , to use a toolkit or not to ? I have this being sent out to me soon I want a simple root process so I can try out Roms over time , so if there are reputable toolkits let me know if they are any good
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use the guide in the top of this section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
dont use a toolkit.
Zepius said:
use the guide in the top of this section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
dont use a toolkit.
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I second that. Think of the pandas! (apparently they're murdered for toolkit use, too)
Haha okay so I just get nervous want to make sure I do it all right
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andysom25 said:
Haha okay so I just get nervous want to make sure I do it all right
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Some people have painted the anti-toolkit crowd as elitist lately. Honestly, the logic on not using toolkits isn't as elitist as they think. It's easier for the user to get support if something goes wrong, and it's easier for the person giving support to help. If a request-for-help post says "I ran these steps and when I ran this command, I got an error" it's much easier to help than if it says "I chose option <x> in toolkit <y> and now my phone doesn't work". The user is also then at least aware of how adb/fastboot work, which is good because they'll likely be how anyone responding will have them fix their phone.
On top of that, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery are extremely simple on this phone.
Good that's why I got this one very excited !
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[Q] ROOTING

so I'm going to root my note3 now (cfauto) and I think I read somewhere Sammy changed there counter and there's no way of Going back to zero, is this true? That they made some kinda different counter? Thnx guyz, coming from an s4 and was hopping it was the same old same ol, bow what recovery is more stable at the minute?
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spodie said:
so I'm going to root my note3 now (cfauto) and I think I read somewhere Sammy changed there counter and there's no way of Going back to zero, is this true? That they made some kinda different counter? Thnx guyz, coming from an s4 and was hopping it was the same old same ol, bow what recovery is more stable at the minute?
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Yes, you will trip the Knox flag, currently no method to reset it. TWRP is fine, just do some reading about restoring backups.. If done incorrectly, you will experience what's been coined "The Brickloop"
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Steve Lazarus said:
Yes, you will trip the Knox flag, currently no method to reset it. TWRP is fine, just do some reading about restoring backups.. If done incorrectly, you will experience what's been called the "Brickloop"
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Thanx , what will this take away besides warrenty? Anything of use? Is there a chance chain fire could fix it in the long run? Sorry just so used to my s4, main question is should I root or hold out??
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So I flash root, then install a cutom kernel then make a back uP?
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spodie said:
So I flash root, then install a cutom kernel then make a back uP?
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Just root it using Odin and Chainfires auto-root method, I'm not familiar with the custom kernel as yet, so I won't comment on that. Once you root, you still keep all stock functionality, just have administrative rights, so to speak. If you're not too familiar with rooting, flashing, etc.. I wouldn't recommend starting right now with the Note 3, still early in the aftermarket development stage..
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Steve Lazarus said:
Yes, you will trip the Knox flag, currently no method to reset it. TWRP is fine, just do some reading about restoring backups.. If done incorrectly, you will experience what's been coined "The Brickloop"
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There is a rooting method without triggering the Knox.
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Read. All you questions are answered here in the thread about such matters.
googlephone said:
There is a rooting method without triggering the Knox.
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i believe it gives you root access only. As soon as you flash a custom recovery it trips it
googlephone said:
There is a rooting method without triggering the Knox.
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Post a link?
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googlephone said:
There is a rooting method without triggering the Knox.
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I believe your referring to the note 3 on AT&T. If this is available for the T-Mobile model,please provide a link.
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GHOSTIVVI said:
I believe your referring to the note 3 on AT&T. If this is available for the T-Mobile model,please provide a link.
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The thread is right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
I just rooted through this method and it doesn't trigger Knox
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Post a link?
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Considering all of the challenges that people have faced with Fierce bootloops - and for a while no way way to fix them, this is a situation where you would do very well to do some reading before you do anything. There are two root methods currently both are outlined in the Original Android Development Section for the TMOBILE NOte 3 - you can download everything you need from there - and I think it would be very helpful for you to read thru what others have done and experienced before you do anything - then you can make your own decision about which root method is best for your needs.
I don't mean to sound sanctimonious or anything but if there ever was a time that reading thoroughly first was a good thing to do - this is one of those times..good luck
mocsab said:
Considering all of the challenges that people have faced with Fierce bootloops - and for a while no way way to fix them, this is a situation where you would do very well to do some reading before you do anything. There are two root methods currently both are outlined in the Original Android Development Section for the TMOBILE NOte 3 - you can download everything you need from there - and I think it would be very helpful for you to read thru what others have done and experienced before you do anything - then you can make your own decision about which root method is best for your needs.
I don't mean to sound sanctimonious or anything but if there ever was a time that reading thoroughly first was a good thing to do - this is one of those times..good luck
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I don't understand what this had to do with asking for a link, but thanx to the post above this I am now rooted without tripping the knox counter. ...
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djtheraven said:
I don't understand what this had to do with asking for a link, but thanx to the post above this I am now rooted without tripping the knox counter. ...
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What did my post have to do with your asking for a link? Well, I didn't want to be this direct but If you simply opened the Original Android Development thread and took less than a minute to read, you wouldn't need to ask for a link. You would see that there were two threads available that offered details that would give you exactly what you wanted. Two different ways to root.
In fact, in less time than it took you to write your post and wait for an answer, you would have had exactly what you were looking for.
My response to you was a gentle reminder that reading is a good thing.
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What did my post have to do with your asking for a link? Well, I didn't want to be this direct but If you simply opened the Original Android Development thread and took less than a minute to read, you wouldn't need to ask for a link. You would see that there were two threads available that offered details that would give you exactly what you wanted. Two different ways to root.
In fact, in less time than it took you to write your post and wait for an answer, you would have had exactly what you were looking for.
My response to you was a gentle reminder that reading is a good thing.
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The fact that you took all this time to write all that and ridicule me is ridiculous when it would have been easier for you to have just been nice and post the link like the last guy did. .. Sorry I didn't see it however easy it was, but that's why we are here to help one another. ..so please next time either don't comment at all and let someone else who wants to help, help, or just help someone out. ..It goes a long way and makes this place more civil. ..
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djtheraven said:
The fact that you took all this time to write all that and ridicule me is ridiculous when it would have been easier for you to have just been nice and post the link like the last guy did. .. Sorry I didn't see it however easy it was, but that's why we are here to help one another. ..so please next time either don't comment at all and let someone else who wants to help, help, or just help someone out. ..It goes a long way and makes this place more civil. ..
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I am sorry you felt I was ridiculing you. That was not my intent at all. THis forum is loaded with people who have have had major issues when flashing a recovery which is often the next step after rooting - there are more reports of people who have had to return their note 3 to TMOBILE than I can remember seeing on a single phone in a very long time. My Suggestion for you to read was purely intended to help you - it is easy to let others do the work for you - when often trouble could have been avoided by being more educated. What struck me as odd was the fact that it was so easy to find the link you were looking for - if you only opened one section of the forum in the Original Android Development you would have found it. But that is besides the point.
My comments were always supportive - and intended to help you. Period. I am sorry that you are so caught up in the " I want what I want when I want it "- that you can't see that. XDA is a forum designed for people to learn more about their phones and to ultimately try to get more out of them than you can get in a Stock phone...I have been in your shoes before and done exactly what you did when asking for a link - and have gotten a similar reply to the one I gave you. I am grateful it happened to me because it forced me to take a step back - do a little reading - learn more about the challenges others have faced and in the end, avoid those same problems myself.
Once more, I am Sorry you feel I was ridiculing you - couldn't be farther from the truth - I wish you well and hope you enjoy your NOTE3. Have a nice day my friend.
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I am sorry you felt I was ridiculing you. That was not my intent at all. THis forum is loaded with people who have have had major issues when flashing a recovery which is often the next step after rooting - there are more reports of people who have had to return their note 3 to TMOBILE than I can remember seeing on a single phone in a very long time. My Suggestion for you to read was purely intended to help you - it is easy to let others do the work for you - when often trouble could have been avoided by being more educated. What struck me as odd was the fact that it was so easy to find the link you were looking for - if you only opened one section of the forum in the Original Android Development you would have found it. But that is besides the point.
My comments were always supportive - and intended to help you. Period. I am sorry that you are so caught up in the " I want what I want when I want it "- that you can't see that. XDA is a forum designed for people to learn more about their phones and to ultimately try to get more out of them than you can get in a Stock phone...I have been in your shoes before and done exactly what you did when asking for a link - and have gotten a similar reply to the one I gave you. I am grateful it happened to me because it forced me to take a step back - do a little reading - learn more about the challenges others have faced and in the end, avoid those same problems myself.
Once more, I am Sorry you feel I was ridiculing you - couldn't be farther from the truth - I wish you well and hope you enjoy your NOTE3. Have a nice day my friend.
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No problem. .. Just to let you know that thread doesn't show up in my app which I always use.. It only showed up on my computer. .. That's why I didn't see it. ..
After I rooted the system it said modified and ota wouldn't work. .. so I installed xposed framework and then wanam xposed module and there is a setting to set system to original and that works for ota...
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No problem. .. Just to let you know that thread doesn't show up in my app which I always use.. It only showed up on my computer. .. That's why I didn't see it. ..
After I rooted the system it said modified and ota wouldn't work. .. so I installed xposed framework and then wanam xposed module and there is a setting to set system to original and that works for ota...
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I may be wrong but I thought that using that option in Wanam Exposed was cosmetic only. It changes that to Official in Settings - but doesn't really effect how your phone is recognized as being 'altered" - LIke I said, I might be wrong, but that is what I heard. You might check with someone who knows more about this than I do
Good luck
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I may be wrong but I thought that using that option in Wanam Exposed was cosmetic only. It changes that to Official in Settings - but doesn't really effect how your phone is recognized as being 'altered" - LIke I said, I might be wrong, but that is what I heard. You might check with someone who knows more about this than I do
Good luck
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That's what I thought also but when I tried to go to the ota update setting it told me that this is a modified system and when I use that module then it told me that there was no further updates... so I guess that made it work. ..
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