[Q] Root and SU without using KFU? - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Kindle fire running 6.3.2 I attempted to root with KFU and it got stuck halfway through the process and was able to get it back to normal using soupkit. Was going to try again but am having problems getting KFU to install SU and root,.
QUESTION... (and I have googled this to death and read posts and posts and posts but everything points to using KFU) - Is there a way to root and get SU without using KFU? Soupkit seems to work fine but from what I understand it can't install SU and root. Any help is appreciated

Depending on what your version of android is it won't install SU. Go online and download the apk for SuperSU or SU and install it using ES File Explorer.

androidnooob98 said:
Depending on what your version of android is it won't install SU. Go online and download the apk for SuperSU or SU and install it using ES File Explorer.
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Thanks for the reply, I finally got it to working in windows. KFU would give status of online but boot status unknown.. when it finally gave status of 4000 and online KFU worked.

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[Q] Trying to copy vending.apk - All kinds of problems

Ultimately I am trying to get the Android Market on my rooted Kindle Fire but I am having many issues (or at least it seems like many). I have been reading through countless forum posts on here and other sites to get where I am so far, but now I'm stuck.
Right now I am trying to copy vending.apk to /system/app but I am unable to mount the folder as read/write. I have tried doing this with a couple different apps and have had no luck.
I found out that I could mount read/write from KFU, but now when I load KFU it says ADB Status: Offline. I had some trouble with this issue yesterday when I rooted, but I don't know how I fixed it
Also, the Kindle Fire won't show up in Windows Explorer (running Windows 7, btw) even though my computer makes the normal sound of a USB device being plugged in. Only once for the past two days has the autoplay prompt come up after plugging in the Fire. I guess it could be a faulty cable, but I'm not sure.
Oh, another thing I read that could possibly be an issue that I have my default install drive set to D:\ and of course the .android folder is in C:\users...
KFU 0.9.5
Windows 7
Kindle Fire 6.3
There is probably more information you need in order to help me, but I can't think of anything else.
Last question: is there a way I can undo everything that I've done and start over completely?
Is superuser properly installed?
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In KFU I selected "2 Install Permanent Root with Superuser". I am not sure how to find out if it was installed properly though.
Also, is there a simple way to check if the rooting actually worked? I know that installing TWRP worked. Would proper rooting be a prerequisite for installing TWRP?
1. Look for the super user app icon. No icon, no super user.
2 download terminal emulator. Run it and at the prompt type SU. It should return a # prompt. If you don't, you are not properly rooted.
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Okay, so I don't see a SuperUser app and when I type SU I get "SU: permission denied". So I guess that's a fail on the rooting, huh?
I definitely have TWRP setup on the Fire, though, so I must have had the Fire plugged in correctly and used KFU correctly at some point.
Maybe we should start with getting the Fire connected to the PC first. When I plug it in my computer makes the sound it always does when I plug in a USB device, but it doesn't show up in Windows Explorer or cause the autoplay prompt. Ideas?
Before you try to reroot with KFU, try to side load the Super User app. That may be all your missing. Once you have SU loaded go back into terminal and type SU again and see what happens.
I am willing to bet that's all you need.
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I sideloaded Superuser, which definitely installed correctly, but I am still getting "SU: permission denied" in the terminal window. I'm going to order a different USB cable in case that's the problem, but do you any other suggestions in the mean time?
I also had problems installing the Play store when I first rooted my KF. If you have TWRP working, why not download and install one of the rooted roms based on stock that has Play already installed , if you want to keep stock that is. I ended up doing that, but have moved on to an ICS rom because I got tired of stock.
fangorn0 said:
I sideloaded Superuser, which definitely installed correctly, but I am still getting "SU: permission denied" in the terminal window. I'm going to order a different USB cable in case that's the problem, but do you any other suggestions in the mean time?
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Make sure you have su binary with correct permissions in /system/xbin
adb shell ls -l /system/xbin/su
It should look like this:
-rwsr-sr-x root root 22364 2012-03-29 06:49 su
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Superuser just won' work!

I rooted my kindle fire using kindle fire utility 0.9.6 (after the rooting superuser wasn't installed on my kindle), downloaded twrp, flashed hashcode jelly bean ROM from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766829
and then flashed Superuser-3.1.3-x86-signed.zip which I downloaded from this link
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
but superuser won't work, when I check the root explorer in ES file explorer it tells me that this feature can't work on ur phone
Please I'm really dying out here
Someone Help Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease !!!!!
You need the su binary installed as well. But with that being said, why don't you just install the Superuser.apk?
[Edit:] It's late and I'm not paying attention for some reason. Custom ROMs come pre-rooted and you have Jelly Bean installed. Perhaps there's a problem with ES File Explorer?
soupmagnet said:
You need the su binary installed as well. But with that being said, why don't you just install the Superuser.apk?
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Thank you for replying so fast
how can I install su binary? and about the superuser.apk isn't that what i flashed into my device i have a superuser icon on my desktop but it just won't add any apps to its list.
Thanks again
At the Superuser website, there are three zip files. One is Superuser, one is the su binary, and the other should be both. Not that it matters at this point.
soupmagnet said:
At the Superuser website, there are three zip files. One is Superuser, one is the su binary, and the other should be both. Not that it matters at this point.
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what do you mean by not that it matters at this point?
can't I just download the zip and flash it?
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You need the su binary installed as well. But with that being said, why don't you just install the Superuser.apk?
[Edit:] It's late and I'm not paying attention for some reason. Custom ROMs come pre-rooted and you have Jelly Bean installed. Perhaps there's a problem with ES File Explorer?
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Maybe you missed this
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Maybe you missed this
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I tried another app called copy paste it and when I try to use it this message appears:
"Your Phone does not appear to be rooted or has not been given root privileges. to use this application please provide root privileges to this applications"
what should I do?
[Edit] ok now i know my device is certainly not rooted i tried orbot, market enabler and market unlocker they all dispatch the same message your device isn't rooted.
can anyone tell me how to root it?
Scarfacew said:
I tried another app called copy paste it and when I try to use it this message appears:
"Your Phone does not appear to be rooted or has not been given root privileges. to use this application please provide root privileges to this applications"
what should I do?
[Edit] ok now i know my device is certainly not rooted i tried orbot, market enabler and market unlocker they all dispatch the same message your device isn't rooted.
can anyone tell me how to root it?
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I too used the KFU to supposedly root my KF, but when I tried to install Titanium Backup, it gave me the same error message saying that my phone did not have root privileges... I wonder if there is something not installing correctly when using KFU...
"Root" consists of the su binary, which the system uses to give the user root permissions, and Superuser.apk, which keeps a database of what programs you allow to have those permissions. With "su" only, you will still have root permission, but only at the level of command line interface and your apps will not be allowed root permissions. Superuser.apk by itself is worthless. Custom ROMS come pre-rooted so the need to re-root is usually unnecessary unless something happens to one of the above mentioned programs. The only way to be sure if/which one is missing is in recovery via the command line because custom recovery will provide temporary root access.
Code:
adb shell ls /system/xbin
...look for su
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adb shell ls /system/app
...look for Superuser.apk
Superuser can be installed from within the ROM using the .apk (at least in earlier versions it was possible), or in recovery using the command line or by flashing the signed .zip from the superuser website . The su binary can only be installed while in recovery.
Of course it all can be fixed by re-flashing your custom ROM.
It may also be necessary to rename the check-rooted executable, but only if you're running the stock Amazon software.
I think that pretty much covers it.
soupmagnet said:
"Root" consists of the su binary, which the system uses to give the user root permissions, and Superuser.apk, which keeps a database of what programs you allow to have those permissions. With "su" only, you will still have root permission, but only at the level of command line interface and your apps will not be allowed root permissions. Superuser.apk by itself is worthless. Custom ROMS come pre-rooted so the need to re-root is usually unnecessary unless something happens to one of the above mentioned programs. The only way to be sure if/which one is missing is in recovery via the command line because custom recovery will provide temporary root access.
Code:
adb shell ls /system/xbin
...look for su
Code:
adb shell ls /system/app
...look for Superuser.apk
Superuser can be installed from within the ROM using the .apk (at least in earlier versions it was possible), or in recovery using the command line or by flashing the signed .zip from the superuser website . The su binary can only be installed while in recovery.
Of course it all can be fixed by re-flashing your custom ROM.
It may also be necessary to rename the check-rooted executable, but only if you're running the stock Amazon software.
I think that pretty much covers it.
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Ok now things are getting worse I tried to turn the wifi on and it didn't work, I tried to reboot and power off the tablet but it just won't work
{Edit} I want to know that by re-flashing the ROM is there a guarantee that those problems won't happen again.
One more thing is that I deleted the ROM from my kindle I can't transfer it from my laptop because the kindle hasn't been recognized after the jelly bean and I can't downloaded because wifi isn't working so what should I do
Thanks in advance
Scarfacew said:
Ok now things are getting worse I tried to turn the wifi on and it didn't work, I tried to reboot and power off the tablet but it just won't work
I want to know that by re-flashing the ROM is there a guarantee that those problems won't happen again.
Thanks in advance
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There are never any guarantees when it comes to computers and system software, but the LIKELINESS is very high that the problem will be fixed.
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There are never any guarantees when it comes to computers and system software, but the LIKELINESS is very high that the problem will be fixed.
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One more thing is that I deleted the ROM from my kindle I can't transfer it from my laptop because the kindle hasn't been recognized since I flashed the jelly bean and I can't downloaded because wifi isn't working so what should I do
Thanks in advance
Boot into recovery and "mount" your sdcard to USB. The computer should still recognize it.
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Boot into recovery and "mount" your sdcard to USB. The computer should still recognize it.
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I re-flashed the Rom, wifi is working so I dl ES file explorer and checked Root explorer, but when superuser request popped, I clicked allow but it didn't work it gave me the same message, the new thing is that superuser app added es file explorer to its list but I still can't copy apps in the app/system file.
I know I bored you to death and I'm really thankful for ur help but I really need the root.
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I re-flashed the Rom, wifi is working so I dl ES file explorer and checked Root explorer, but when superuser request popped, I clicked allow but it didn't work it gave me the same message, the new thing is that superuser app added es file explorer to its list but I still can't copy apps in the app/system file.
I know I bored you to death and I'm really thankful for ur help but I really need the root.
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Ok, well try a different ROM. If the problem persists then we can try to think of something.
I flashed the Alien droid ROM it's working fine till now but I need to know how to install an arabic keyboard please
Thanks
Ok, I have a dumb question, but from where do you run the DOS commands from? (ie. what directory?)..
c:\KFU?
Right-click on your KFU folder and select properties to find the folder's path. It may be different depending on wherever you've installed it.
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Right-click on your KFU folder and select properties to find the folder's path. It may be different depending on wherever you've installed it.
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Thanks. but not sure i understand.
Here is what I'm attempting to do.. using the root method described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452 under "Getting to fastboot mode" there are a series of command line examples that seem to start with adb.... (ex. adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/fbmode).
Under Rooting the stock software, the first step command line is "adb shell mount system"
my question is from where do I start (directory) so that when I enter these commands they work?
Or are you saying that I need to fun all these from the KFU directory? (or KFU/tools) or some other directory..
I appreciate the help and feedback..
:h my::
Wherever adb is...Right-click on that folder to find it's path so you can "cd" or change directories to it. Alternatively, you can Shift + Right-click on that folder and select something like "Open command window here".

[Q] how to root kindle fire 10.2.6 d01400?

Hey all. Picked up a KF yesterday and I spent all night trying to root it. I installed android sdk and followed the guide and it reset my device and the program on the pc said I was rooted however using root checker on the kindle it says I am not however busybox is installed. I cant seem to root this sucker. Any advice id appreciate. Searched the forum last night and nothing I found could help me.
Stephen
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Hey all. Picked up a KF yesterday and I spent all night trying to root it. I installed android sdk and followed the guide and it reset my device and the program on the pc said I was rooted however using root checker on the kindle it says I am not however busybox is installed. I cant seem to root this sucker. Any advice id appreciate. Searched the forum last night and nothing I found could help me.
Stephen
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Open a command prompt, enter the following and let me know what the output is...
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adb shell su -c "echo foo"

[Q] KF2 su Binary Is Missing

I've really messed my KF2 up somehow. The Kindle Fire Utility reports that it's ADB Rooted, but my su binary is missing.
When I open Superuser, it reports that it needs to update the Su binary, but it fails.
127|[email protected]:/ # su
su
/system/bin/sh: su: not found​
Once the KF2 is rooted, I'm stuck on the sluggish blinking slow screen. I've fixed this a couple of times using "adb shell rm /data/local.prop", but once I try to re-root it the sluggish blinking screen comes back. I think this is a side effect of the missing su.
I believe I can hack this back together using a valid su binary. At this point, I'll be happy to get it back to a known good state so I can install the latest cyanogenmod. I need to fix the root so I can install TWRP, right?
Any suggestions would be helpful!
Doug
If your shell says root then u should be able to put su on your sdcard then cup it over to xbins and set its permissions with chmod. BTW be careful of kfu on a kf2, it will hard brick it if you use it to install a boot loader.
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stunts513 said:
If your shell says root then u should be able to put su on your sdcard then cup it over to xbins and set its permissions with chmod. BTW be careful of kfu on a kf2, it will hard brick it if you use it to install a boot loader.
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I'm unsure where I should get the su binary from, I'm sure that once I have it, I can push it up using adb.
Doug
I think the file is included in binary's root.
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stunts513 said:
I think the file is included in binary's root.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app
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I appreciate your help, but I don't quite understand.
I've looked in the Superuser.apk file, and used find in the adb shell and do not see it anywhere.
Doug
DougWare said:
I appreciate your help, but I don't quite understand.
I've looked in the Superuser.apk file, and used find in the adb shell and do not see it anywhere.
Doug
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I found it, now I'll try to fix my Kindle.
Thanks!
Doug

[Q] Kindle Fire 8.4.9 Root?

Just got a "factory refurbished" Kindle Fire 8.9 HD for a STEAL (Amazon gave $50 back on the refurb).
Anyway, now that I have it and have been playing with it for a few weeks, I've realized that the current root methods (including Root Many Android) say they have rooted it, but I don't quite have all the SU access. Digging deeper, I've found that I have System Version 8.4.9.
I can get a partial root, but cannot mount the system to RW
Anyone out there working on the Root of Kindle Fire 8.4.9?
I would just downgrade it and flash a custom rom.
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I would just downgrade it and flash a custom rom.
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Stunts,
I'd love to do that, but one of the issues with the current root is I can't use KFFirstAide to do much of anything. I would like to keep the KF as close to stock as I can, as I have kids and the FreeTime app is nice. I'm mostly looking to get the Google Play store up and working.
I've done a search but don't see anything on how to downgrade the KF from 8.4.9 without having root.
What am I missing?
You don't need root. When you initially power the device on it should briefly be detected as a jem device. Download then drivers in my signature and extract them somewhere. Now open the device manager and plug the kindle in while off, when you see the jem device, right click it and hit update drivers, and tell it to look where you extracted mine. If this is windows 8 you will have to disable driver signature enforcement first. If you can manage to get this step completed the rest is simple, it basically involves this: grab a utility like kindle fire first aid and shift + right click it and hit new command window here. With the kindle off and unplugged type
Code:
fastboot -I 0x1949 getvar product
once it says waiting for device plug the kindle in while it is off, it should enter fastboot, from there you can use kffa to downgrade it.
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stunts513 said:
You don't need root. When you initially power the device on it should briefly be detected as a jem device. Download then drivers in my signature and extract them somewhere. Now open the device manager and plug the kindle in while off, when you see the jem device, right click it and hit update drivers, and tell it to look where you extracted mine. If this is windows 8 you will have to disable driver signature enforcement first. If you can manage to get this step completed the rest is simple, it basically involves this: grab a utility like kindle fire first aid and shift + right click it and hit new command window here. With the kindle off and unplugged type
Code:
fastboot -I 0x1949 getvar product
once it says waiting for device plug the kindle in while it is off, it should enter fastboot, from there you can use kffa to downgrade it.
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Tried to downgrade. I can get to fastboot without any issues, but it looks like there are issues with KFFA (I'm using 4.1.87-beta). I get the following when trying to "Completely Restore the KFHD 8.9 8.1.4" (Option 7)
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*I Have Fetched The recovery.img - 1 More To Download................*
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--2014-06-14 13:04:18-- y
<snip> (don't have 10 posts so can't post all the links)
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 FOUND
Cookie coming from address attempted to set domain to dropbox.com
Cookie coming from address attempted to set domain to dropbox.com
Location: (removed as I don't have 10 posts)] [following]
--2014-06-14 13:04:18-- (removed as I don't have 10 posts)
Connecting to address... connected.
ERROR: cannot verify address's certificate, issued by `address High Assurance Server CA':
Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
To connect to address insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.
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*I Have Fetched The system.img - I Am Ready To Flash The 3 Images......................*
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Press any key to continue . . .
target reported max download size of 1006632960 bytes
error: cannot load 'boot.img': No error
target reported max download size of 1006632960 bytes
error: cannot load 'recovery.img': No error
target reported max download size of 1006632960 bytes
error: cannot load 'system.img': No error
Would You Like To Wipe Data And Cache (y/n) ?
After this, I wipe data and cache and then didn't finish the registration (so I didn't get "pushed" an update, just in case)
Come back up and I'm still in 8.4.9
I've gone in to dropbox and pulled all the images to my computer. Is there a way to move these and get them properly mounted in adb? I'm a relative n00b but getting a bit more comfy in the adb environment and may be able to do it from there, with a bit of help?
Thanks!
Do not actually use KFFA use this method --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468988
You only need kffa for adb.exe and fastboot.exe ect.
PS. Be sure NOT to to connect to the Internet after until you have OTA blocked, and if you Like you can manually upgrade to what ever firmware you would like, I went back to v848
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Do not actually use KFFA use this method --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468988
You only need kffa for adb.exe and fastboot.exe ect.
PS. Be sure NOT to to connect to the Internet after until you have OTA blocked, and if you Like you can manually upgrade to what ever firmware you would like, I went back to v848
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Now I'm stuck in the Kindle Fire boot screen - orange. I got through all the flashes without an issue and unplugged on the final reboot per your instructions. I try to adb to it and there are no devices found.
Edit: Whoops. Was using my old shortcut command keys (arrows) and just changed what flashed to system - forgot to flash to the right places. Trying again!
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Now I'm stuck in the Kindle Fire boot screen - orange. I got through all the flashes without an issue and unplugged on the final reboot per your instructions. I try to adb to it and there are no devices found.
Edit: Whoops. Was using my old shortcut command keys (arrows) and just changed what flashed to system - forgot to flash to the right places. Trying again!
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Hi guys, thx for all tutorials in this site, but i can't root my Kindle Fire HD 8.9...this is the error
"/system/bin/sh su cannot execute permission denied "
KatanAlive said:
Hi guys, thx for all tutorials in this site, but i can't root my Kindle Fire HD 8.9...this is the error
"/system/bin/sh su cannot execute permission denied "
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Is your Kindle up and running? I also have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and yesterday I downloaded latest update.bin file (8.4.9) from Amazon and updated my Kindle and later rooted it using the manual method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 thread. It was total success. Just don't miss a single step from that method.
Actually I had my Kindle (ver 8.4.8) rooted before and Google Play installed with the same method but I was having some issues (not because of rooting but because I had been tinkering with the system apps) so decided to update to overcome those glitches. I installed RootKeeper from Google Play and told it to protect my root access during update process but this crap could not. After update I lost my root and now Google Play Store and related services stopped working, as I didn't have root access so couldn't manage to delete their apks from System apps. So I decided to root it again with the same method and I did it, after rooting it again I went to system apps and deleted old apks of Google Play and other related apks. Then I agin installed Google Play using the automatic method mentioned in above thread.
Sorry if this story is irrelevant but I just wanted to share my experience so any one searching for something could find a clue from it. One thing is confirmed here, KFFirstAid can easily install Google Play after 8.4.9 update and the above mentioned manual method can root it successfully. I am not sure about automatic method though.
you have been very usefull! Thx...but, i still can't root with any method
Can i ask you for some help (i've actually the 8.4.9 version) in private?
KatanAlive said:
Hi guys, thx for all tutorials in this site, but i can't root my Kindle Fire HD 8.9...this is the error
"/system/bin/sh su cannot execute permission denied "
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KatanAlive said:
you have been very usefull! Thx...but, i still can't root with any method
Can i ask you for some help (i've actually the 8.4.9 version) in private?
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Of course. I am not very knowledgable but I would try my best to share my experience.
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Of course. I am not very knowledgable but I would try my best to share my experience.
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I write you a pm
I just tried the fastboot stuff and it will not enter fastboot. Do i need a fastboot cable?
Also i would like to remove all things kindle aka custom roms. So thats a non issue meaning if the only way to root a hd 8.9 with 8.4.9 rom version that was some how pushed on to my kindle via ota that i had turned off but got turned back on some how. Then thats fine and infact i want to remove amazons crap rom any how.
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I just tried the fastboot stuff and it will not enter fastboot. Do i need a fastboot cable?
Also i would like to remove all things kindle aka custom roms. So thats a non issue meaning if the only way to root a hd 8.9 with 8.4.9 rom version that was some how pushed on to my kindle via ota that i had turned off but got turned back on some how. Then thats fine and infact i want to remove amazons crap rom any how.
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Read post 9 on previous page.
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Read post 9 on previous page.
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Already tried this. It works partially only once it is fully done rebooting the kindle fire is running so slowly as to be unworkable for any thing. Also the lock swipe etc looks torn inhalf. At this point i have to use recorvery to get it to respond properly. I need to root or change rom out right (preferably) But the fast boot commands do nothing. Tried getting it to show up as gem device and use the other drivers that are suppose to let me enter fast boot by a fastboot command. It does not seem to work.
So after trying the method in post 9 again i need to recover to factory again. As it is running extremely slow
stunts513 said:
I would just downgrade it and flash a custom rom.
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Stunts what is the best surefire way to downgrade? My previously rooted kindlefire hd 8.9 just got ota updated to 8.4.9. I had disabled ota i thought but it would seem it wasnt. Now i can not reroot it properly. I want to just go with a custom rom and be done with this mess. I do not have a fastboot cable. But it would seem there are ways around that such as the fastboot -i etc etc how ever i tried that and it did not work (including getting the drivers to the jem. I think i may be missing the chance to get the update drivers bit done intime (not sure here). At any rate help!!! heh
Again what i want to do
Downgrade to easiest rom ver to flash from to a custom rom using what ever meathod is the most effective minus fastboot cable. also recommendations on rom to use are very welcome.
akb1ajay said:
Is your Kindle up and running? I also have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and yesterday I downloaded latest update.bin file (8.4.9) from Amazon and updated my Kindle and later rooted it using the manual method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 thread. It was total success. Just don't miss a single step from that method.
Actually I had my Kindle (ver 8.4.8) rooted before and Google Play installed with the same method but I was having some issues (not because of rooting but because I had been tinkering with the system apps) so decided to update to overcome those glitches. I installed RootKeeper from Google Play and told it to protect my root access during update process but this crap could not. After update I lost my root and now Google Play Store and related services stopped working, as I didn't have root access so couldn't manage to delete their apks from System apps. So I decided to root it again with the same method and I did it, after rooting it again I went to system apps and deleted old apks of Google Play and other related apks. Then I agin installed Google Play using the automatic method mentioned in above thread.
Sorry if this story is irrelevant but I just wanted to share my experience so any one searching for something could find a clue from it. One thing is confirmed here, KFFirstAid can easily install Google Play after 8.4.9 update and the above mentioned manual method can root it successfully. I am not sure about automatic method though.
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This worked for getting root back, but didn't initially work for the Google apps. It looks like Amazon filled the file system /system leaving no room for the apps. Since I don't use Text To Speech, I removed /system/tts/ivona/vox_en_us_salli22i which is 100+MB, freeing plenty of space for Google apps. I saved a copy to /sdcard just in case. I recommend saving a copy of system.img first, since my first attempts at removing files deleted the apk, but didn't free the space and I had to do a restore once.
Full Manual Root - Kindle Fire HD 8.9 System Version 8.4.9 on Ubuntu Linux 14.04
Hi Guys,
If none of the usual methods work, here is a method for rooting Kindle Fire HD 8.9 with the new 8.4.9 system version. It was written for and tested on Linux, but should work on Windows as well.
Requires Linux and "DOS" scripting knowledge - particularly if anything goes wrong. If you are not familiar with linux shell, please do not try!
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
I was struggling a whole day with rooting my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 with the 8.4.9 stock rom. I use Linux (Ubuntu 14.04) and don't really have access to Windows. I've tried several methods, including several versions of the Bin4ry method, but the result was:
a) nothing happened at the end,
b) the system was hell slow, but did not get the root prompt/access.
Finally I've managed to root with a full manual - no script running - method. It was based on Bin4ry v18.5.1 root: the tools were uploaded to the kindle from the package, and the rooting steps were based on the RunMe.bat (manually entering step-by-step). It requires an installed adb on the linux machine (I have it from an Android SDK install)!
Sources:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277105 : I've started from here. I recommend to read this before starting the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 : "C-2) The next steps are used to Root the Kindle - Alternative Method (Manual Version)"
http://pocketnow.com/2012/10/10/root-without-unlocking : for understanding the exploit
Requirements:
1. Install adb on the linux machine.
2. Download Root MANY ANDROID 32-bit!(Dropbox): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/Win32.zip and extract.
Rooting:
The steps are based on manually entering the commands of the "1)Normal" method of the RunMe.bat:
1) In a terminal change to the directory where Win32.zip was extracted and enter:
Code:
adb push stuff/busybox /data/local/tmp/.
adb push stuff/su /data/local/tmp/.
adb push stuff/Superuser.apk /data/local/tmp/.
adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/busybox
2) Restore the fake “backup”. Note: _do not click restore on your Kindle device_! Just enter the command into the command prompt on your PC and press the enter key:
Code:
adb restore fakebackup.ab
3) Run the “exploit”:
Code:
adb shell “while ! ln -s /data/local.prop /data/data/com.android.settings/a/file99; do :; done”
(It will display a lot of "link failed File exists" lines)
4) Now that the “exploit” is running, click restore on your device.
5) Once it finishes, reboot your device. Note: Don’t use your kindle yet, this exploit reboots into emulator mode which will be laggy with a flickering screen (or no display at all). This is normal.
Code:
adb reboot
6) Once rebooted, open a shell:
Code:
adb shell
Check: Once you do step 6, your should have a root shell (your prompt should be #, not $). If it’s not #, start again from step 2.
7) Continue with the steps of the RunMe.bat - now entering the commands in the root shell:
Code:
/data/local/tmp/busybox mount -o remount,rw /system
/data/local/tmp/busybox mv /data/local/tmp/su /system/xbin/su
/data/local/tmp/busybox mv /data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk /system/app/Superuser.apk
/data/local/tmp/busybox cp /data/local/tmp/busybox /system/xbin/busybox
chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
chmod 655 /system/app/Superuser.apk
chmod 755 /system/xbin/busybox
rm /data/local.prop
reboot
Done .
The Method described above didn't work for me.
Tried to do it step by step but the exploit part is not working, gives me a syntax error.
Then i used runme.bat and the exploit seems to work (slow reboot, scrambled kindle logo) but root isn't working properly afterwards.
It's kinda half-rooted now, with SuperSU working and displaying "granted root access..."-messages but if i try to install the play store i'm stuck.
ESexplorer is in root mode, mounted system R/W but when i try to move vending.apk to system/app it fails. No root access it seems
Opening SuperSU results in a failed update process....
Any kind of help is deeply appreciated...
Fixing that syntax error
Toastytwo said:
The Method described above didn't work for me.
Tried to do it step by step but the exploit part is not working, gives me a syntax error.
Then i used runme.bat and the exploit seems to work (slow reboot, scrambled kindle logo) but root isn't working properly afterwards.
It's kinda half-rooted now, with SuperSU working and displaying "granted root access..."-messages but if i try to install the play store i'm stuck.
ESexplorer is in root mode, mounted system R/W but when i try to move vending.apk to system/app it fails. No root access it seems
Opening SuperSU results in a failed update process....
Any kind of help is deeply appreciated...
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This method worked for me! I also got a syntax error the first time arround but I fixed it by splitting this command (adb shell "while ! ln -s /data/local.prop /data/data/com.android.settings/a/file99; do :; done") into 2 separate command 1) adb shell, 2) while ! ln -s /data/local.prop /data/data/com.android.settings/a/file99; do :; done
After taking away the quotes it worked exactly as described!

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