Hi i have ARHD on my phone with the XM Kernel. I was slightly suprised in the Trickster MOD app, the max clock speed is 1.3ghz. Yes i know i can OC to 1.5 but im not sure what is setting this. When i had ARHD installed with stock kernel it was showing 1.3 as default. I assume that was set by the ROM. But i installed this kernel and still has 1.3 as the default.
Also the default govenor settings for the gaming one has the boost_freq set at 1300000, which is 1.3ghz, that can be changed to 1.5 also. But surely the boost freq would be the max freq no matter if you move the slider to 1.5 in the basic controls? But i would be suprised that the gaming govenor would underclock the cpu, surely for gaming you would want the phone maxed out?
Is this expected with the XM Kernel and the ARHD? And if so, is there any things i can change in the govenor settings to make sure it performs at absolute max?
It's kernel related; Xmisters' kernels since 188 have a hard cap(1.3Ghz) by default, but using trickster mod, or another o/c apk, you can raise it to the stock 1.5Ghz(tick 'set on boot' to ensure it stays at 1.5) The best settings are trial and error, tbh, I use touchdemand/sio though smartmax seems to be the best balance.
Thanks for the answer. i can change it to 1.5 easy enough, but if you look in the govenor control, the boost_freq is is set to 1300000. If i left it at that, would it prevent the cpu from going up to 1.5?
Danw20 said:
Thanks for the answer. i can change it to 1.5 easy enough, but if you look in the govenor control, the boost_freq is is set to 1300000. If i left it at that, would it prevent the cpu from going up to 1.5?
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you have sleep (lowest CPU can go), ideal freq(the speed the CPU aims for while awake), touch poke (when you touch the screen), boost (what it boosts too to prevent lag) and max (CPU flat out)
Setting the boost to 1.3 will still allow the could to run at full speed.
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That makes sense, cheers. So its probably a good idea to leave it as it is then.
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Hello there,
I've been flashing kernels since I was in LeeDroid Froyo and got no problems. However since I switched to GB based roms such as RCMix3D and TB Fusion, my phone always freezes when I try setting Kernel-Lee-V3.1.1-2.6.35.13-CALLREC or MDJs v19 to maximum overclock so I have no choice to but to stay on stock kernel. I have no ext3/ext4 partition on my SD card in case you ask.
Current ROM: TB Fusion 1.1.2
Radio: 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2
Any idea what should I do to solve this issue?
golokipok said:
Hello there,
I've been flashing kernels since I was in LeeDroid Froyo and got no problems. However since I switched to GB based roms such as RCMix3D and TB Fusion, my phone always freezes when I try setting Kernel-Lee-V3.1.1-2.6.35.13-CALLREC or MDJs v19 to maximum overclock
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uoooo this is sooo dangerous for your handset... u can "smoke" it...
Any idea what should I do to solve this issue?
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yes, your handset freezes because the overclock that u do its too high... underclock it at 1200-1400mhz & try...
and configure SET CPU features... like the standby status, etc....but do it with common sense....
think about that DHD proccessor goes by default at 1gz, really when we overclock the processor we are putting in danger the security of our device
SERGI.3210 said:
uoooo this is sooo dangerous for your handset... u can "smoke" it...
yes, your handset freezes because the overclock that u do its too high... underclock it at 1200-1400mhz & try...
and configure SET CPU features... like the standby status, etc....but do it with common sense....
think about that DHD proccessor goes by default at 1gz, really when we overclock the processor we are putting in danger the security of our device
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Haha! I know that overclocking is quite dangerous. Back on the froyo days, my phone is quite stable around 1.8ghz so I'm just wondering why is this happening (maybe my phone's processor is starting to fry up? ). Is there any effect if I'm using smartass profile on those kernels I've mentioned?
golokipok said:
Haha! I know that overclocking is quite dangerous. Back on the froyo days, my phone is quite stable around 1.8ghz so I'm just wondering why is this happening (maybe my phone's processor is starting to fry up? ).
i hope that the processor works or not works (don´t crashes a little bit...)
but the reason of your freezes maybe (almost sure) because froyo & gingerbread don´t works at the same form, and gingerbread need more resources & stability for to work correct... don´t forget that the kernel manages the hardware...
if u force it......... u know what can happen...
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there any effect if I'm using smartass profile on those kernels I've mentioned?
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it´s possible, take this explanation, read and judge by yourself what´s the better cpu governor...
smartass (Best explanation i've found paraphrases to: based on interactive, but better.)
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ondemand
Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed. - SetCPU website
conservative
Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery. - SetCPU website
performance
Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking. - SetCPU website
powersave
Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times. - SetCPU website
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor. - SetCPU website
Interactive
The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu
at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming
out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire
within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer
fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the
last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down
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Thanks for the info
SERGI.3210 said:
because froyo & gingerbread don´t works at the same form, and gingerbread need more resources & stability for to work correct... don´t forget that the kernel manages the hardware...
if u force it......... u know what can happen...
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You have mentioned about those "resources", is there any special measure that I need to do or what? I'm using the smartass profile on those kernels but still *sigh*
Anyway, I've observed on your sig that yours is overclocked @ 1.8ghz even though you're running GB, me envy
golokipok said:
have mentioned about those "resources", is there any special measure that I need to do or what? I'm using the smartass profile on those kernels but still *sigh*
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you only should do a good over/underclock & set the correct cpu governor for your daily use....
well, you know ho is @MDeeJaay? the developer of MDJ kernels and roms...
he explained smartass with this words:
SMARTASS GOVERNOR - is based on the concept of the interactive governor.
I have always agreed that in theory the way interactive works - by taking over the idle loop - is very attractive. I have never managed to tweak it so it would behave decently in real life. Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more. I think its a success. Performance is on par with the "old" minmax and I think smartass is a bit more responsive. Battery life is hard to quantify precisely but it does spend much more time at the lower frequencies.
Smartass will also cap the max frequency when sleeping to 245Mhz (or if your min frequency is higher than 245 - why?! - it will cap it to your min frequency). Lets take for example the 998/245 kernel, it will sleep at 245.
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, I've observed on your sig that yours is overclocked @ 1.8ghz even though you're running GB, me envy
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no, no buddy... i only show the max speed nothing more... i set my cpu concretly like this;
CPU GOVERNOR:interactive
MAX SPEED:1113 MHZ
MIN SPEED:245 MHZ
PROFILE: screen off; 245 MHZ max.
245 MHZ min.
in adition i´m going to modify my syg LOL
haha..thanks again. I'm gonna try playing with the frequencies to see which will suit me
i hope someone can make a stable 1.8ghz kernel without the freeze
IT´S POSSIBLE but i don´t want to try it LOL
i love a lot my DHD
Hi,
I have installed and added setcpu profiles but i am not sure they are correct choices for me. I have virtuous unity rom with v4 kernel.
ac charging 1.7 ghz max
Battery under 70 1.5 ghz max
Battery under 50 1.2 ghz max
Battery under 30 1.0 ghz max
Temperature over 50 800 mhz max
(All of profiles have minimum 368mhz of speed)
All of them are ondemand but i dont know when to use conservative. And are these clock speeds good for us?
Can you help me about this?
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If youre using virtuous unity, you shouldnt use setcpu and use the virtuous overclock app. Its essentially the same but virtuous oc is much faster in changing your speeds.
My speeds for virtuous oc are:
Max wake: 1.5ghz
Min wake: 245mhz
Governer: ondemand
Max sleep: 368mhz
Min sleep: 245mhz
Governer: conservative
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I'm using CM7 Nightly
Latest Umaro kernel
Screen off = 280/380 powersave
<101% = 280/1.7 ondemand
<40% = 280/800 conservative
charging = 1.0/1.7 performance
temp >50c - 280/380 powersave
I don't.
As stated in the Unity notes (on their website), and as evilcuber mentions:
Virtuous overclocking daemon will automatically be disabled if an overclocking tools (such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner) is installed. Installing these tools is not advised, as the virtuous_oc daemon responds far more rapidly to screen state changes than any Android (Java) application.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
redpoint73 said:
I don't.
As stated in the Unity notes (on their website), and as evilcuber mentions:
Virtuous overclocking daemon will automatically be disabled if an overclocking tools (such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner) is installed. Installing these tools is not advised, as the virtuous_oc daemon responds far more rapidly to screen state changes than any Android (Java) application.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
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I was using setcpu to see momentary clock speeds then decided to create profiles. So it is better to stay with virtuous OC application. I want to ask another question; does sleep clock speeds of cpu effect waking up time?
redpoint73 said:
I don't.
As stated in the Unity notes (on their website), and as evilcuber mentions:
Virtuous overclocking daemon will automatically be disabled if an overclocking tools (such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner) is installed. Installing these tools is not advised, as the virtuous_oc daemon responds far more rapidly to screen state changes than any Android (Java) application.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
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Same here, on CM7 though (which has a built in CPU setup). I haven't used SetCPU in months. 806mhz max / 245mhz min, OnDemand governor. One less app running, the same or better battery life, and no sluggishness with profiles.
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
I want to ask another question; does sleep clock speeds of cpu effect waking up time?
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It can. If you set a low screen off profile like 245/245 or 245/368, your phone may lock down and not wake up properly, or take time to "speed up" when you unlock the phone, which can sometimes be noticeable depending on your phone setup.
martonikaj said:
Same here, on CM7 though (which has a built in CPU setup). I haven't used SetCPU in months. 806mhz max / 245mhz min, OnDemand governor. One less app running, the same or better battery life, and no sluggishness with profiles.
It can. If you set a low screen off profile like 245/245 or 245/368, your phone may lock down and not wake up properly, or take time to "speed up" when you unlock the phone, which can sometimes be noticeable depending on your phone setup.
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the best way is "try and see what happens" I ill try low screen off speeds and try if the hone wake up late. if so, i am going to get clock speeds higher then it was.
ok idk ow to overclock correctly i need a way to make this sense 3.5 rom less laggy an run more smoothly, can anybody help me with this???
Yes just use Daemon Controller (basically functions the same as SetCPU) and set your maximum frequency. For most ROMs I would set it around 1.5Ghz, and set the governor to smartass or smartassv2. The governors will depend on the kernel you're using. For a good sense kernel, I would use this one.
Additionally, you can download Incredicontrol via the market and that will enable you to adjust your voltages, based on the frequency steps. A lot of people prefer to bump the voltage up or down 25% to increase performance or reduce battery drain.
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PAIN AND SUFFERING YOUR DEVICE MAY INCUR.
If I helped, slap my Thanks button around a bit.
chattguy said:
Yes just use Daemon Controller (basically functions the same as SetCPU) and set your maximum frequency. For most ROMs I would set it around 1.5Ghz, and set the governor to smartass or smartassv2. The governors will depend on the kernel you're using. For a good sense kernel, I would use this one.
Additionally, you can download Incredicontrol via the market and that will enable you to adjust your voltages, based on the frequency steps. A lot of people prefer to bump the voltage up or down 25% to increase performance or reduce battery drain.
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PAIN AND SUFFERING YOUR DEVICE MAY INCUR.
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0k the number says 245760 i cant tell which is the 1.5 ghz?
245mhz... That is your lowest frequency. You'll set that as your minimum. Your max should be set at 1497mhz. It'll have some numbers straggling on the end but disregard them. 1497mhz = 1.5Ghz.
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excuse me; have question about this kernel; i couldn't post in the original thread;
by setting the min clock speed to 768MHZ & the max to 1407MHZ, How much voltage does it spend? by setting the min to 245MHZ & max to 1024MHZ how much? i overclocked to 1407MHZ , i saw more smoothness and speed; but i felt that its consuming more power!
is overclocking harmful to CPU? ( always overclocking )
Rom: MY One V RC4.0 FX
PrimoU GSM
Kernel: Latest Kiss Kernel
Hi
Political correct answer:
Of course OC "can" harm your device - like all OC´ing
Realistic answer:
Most One V devices can handle OCing up to 1.5 without problems
but since this may be specific to chip manifacturing there is no
guarantee that it is. Therefore before using any OC you should
test it very carefully.
And also - Of course running the chip at higher frequencies needs
more power. Simply physics .)
In "normal" daily use the difference is not big because the cpu will
not run at high frequencies most of the time. If you do things
like "heavy" gaming this is of course forcing the cpu to run faster.
To reduce the "effect" a little bit there is a kernel feature called
Undervolting (UV) with that you can reduce the voltage for
specific frequencies. Like OC this is device specific. So some
devices can run stable with more reduced voltage then others
BTW: why to you set the min frequency to 768?
This will limit that the frequency cannot go lower then that if the
device is idle. Running at 245 needs of course less power then 768
max
Thanks for the nice info, well, i heard that some users said that the best frequency for " My One V" rom:
Minimum: 768MHZ
MAX: 1407
I'm using "Set CPU" to OC
So setting the min frequency to 245MHZ will save more power, right?
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Satohiroshi said:
So setting the min frequency to 245MHZ will save more power, right?
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Yes - especially for the time before the device can go into
"deep sleep" when beeing idle.
The only "disadvantage" is that depending on the govener that you use
there might be a small lag before the frequency scales up
Actually it depends if you notice it at all
If you use govener ondemand it should be no problem
if you use e.g. smartassV2 you might consider thinking about
using some tunables that will reduce that behaviour.
max
Thanks, yeah, i meant for normal activities, like checking Facebook,mail, watching movies ... So ondemand mode would be better
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maxwen said:
Yes - especially for the time before the device can go into
"deep sleep" when beeing idle.
The only "disadvantage" is that depending on the govener that you use
there might be a small lag before the frequency scales up
Actually it depends if you notice it at all
If you use govener ondemand it should be no problem
if you use e.g. smartassV2 you might consider thinking about
using some tunables that will reduce that behaviour.
max
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What is your recommend governor to integrate with your Titanium-KISS kernel and what is your favourite I/O Scheduler tweaks, for daily use & heavy gaming?
I'm using smartassV2 & i set my I/O Scheduler to deadline until now, because it's peoples favourite
Should i change it to ondemmand to gain a better performance?
Hi
Actually there is already a lot of information about your question
in the KISS kernel thread.
Especially about how to tweak smartassV2 based on "profiles"
max
maxwen said:
Hi
Actually there is already a lot of information about your question
in the KISS kernel thread.
Especially about how to tweak smartassV2 based on "profiles"
max
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uh, okay...i'll re-read the info once again :good:
When I change the Maximum CPU frequency in Mimicry 1.5.0 it will save but will revert after about 5 or 10 minutes. I want the max to be 1516 MHz because sometimes my phone has issues with Navigation and MAPS and I want to see if this solves it. Am I not understanding this functionality correctly? My CPU governor is set to SMARTASSV2.
psyphris said:
When I change the Maximum CPU frequency in Mimicry 1.5.0 it will save but will revert after about 5 or 10 minutes. I want the max to be 1516 MHz because sometimes my phone has issues with Navigation and MAPS and I want to see if this solves it. Am I not understanding this functionality correctly? My CPU governor is set to SMARTASSV2.
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You probably installed one of the optional components of Mimicry. I don't remember the name. It overrides the settings in the performance tab and manages the processor directly. Easiest thing is probably to re-run the Mimicry installer and choose the change optional bits route. Lots of details in the Mimicry thread.
psyphris said:
When I change the Maximum CPU frequency in Mimicry 1.5.0 it will save but will revert after about 5 or 10 minutes. I want the max to be 1516 MHz because sometimes my phone has issues with Navigation and MAPS and I want to see if this solves it. Am I not understanding this functionality correctly? My CPU governor is set to SMARTASSV2.
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Read the OP please. You selected the Virtuous OC Daemon when you installed the ROM. Take note of the last item on the list. If you wish to use your own settings either find a program that lets you modify the Virtuous OC Daemon settings (OC/UV Beater, etc) or uninstall it.
= Virtuous OC Daemon =
– Save battery life and make better use of the kernel CPU frequencies
– Applies a lower ceiling to the max frequency when the screen is off.
– Allows you to change the governor & min/max cpu frequency for screen on/off states (will override anything set in Performance)
Ahh, for some reason I was thinking that was setting the max for Virtuous Daemon to utilize. Sorry about that, my misunderstanding!
I was hoping to have Virtuous Daemon monitor my CPU (hoping for better battery life) but set the max to a higher amount for the event that it needs it.